The Official Golf Thread

Started by laoislad, December 28, 2006, 07:07:48 PM

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JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Applesisapples on June 10, 2022, 11:36:36 AM
Fair play to JT and Rory McIlroy for calling it out for what it is greed. Disappointed with Gmac and embarrassed for him talking shit about growing the game of golf. It would appear that the Masters will not allow them entry and the British Open likely to follow suit next year if not this. But looking down the list of those playing outside of DJ its not too impressive.

The field isnt impressive yet but if its not nipped in the bud early then you could find many more switching. A ban on playing in the majors would surely kill LIV before it goes anywhere

thewobbler

I'm not sure they can ban players with exemptions from taking part in majors.

Obviously the PGA tour can remove them from their money lis, which will get rid of half of them immediately. They can also apply serious pressure on how the handful of invites are used. But they won't be able to block out former winners, or those who finish in the top 25 the previous year etc.

With Bryson, DJ  and Phil all among recent major winners, it could be a decade before they'r "filtered out", and the landscape could be remarkably different by then.

Applesisapples

Quote from: thewobbler on June 10, 2022, 12:15:43 PM
I'm not sure they can ban players with exemptions from taking part in majors.

Obviously the PGA tour can remove them from their money lis, which will get rid of half of them immediately. They can also apply serious pressure on how the handful of invites are used. But they won't be able to block out former winners, or those who finish in the top 25 the previous year etc.

With Bryson, DJ  and Phil all among recent major winners, it could be a decade before they'r "filtered out", and the landscape could be remarkably different by then.
I'm not sure this is so, the R&A withdrew Norman's invitation.

trailer

GMAC hasn't done himself any favours. He sort self appointed himself as spokesperson then spouted a pile of shite mentioning moral high ground and execution in the one statement. Made a grade A **** out of himself.

We're lucky to have Rory. An educated and articulate fella. GMAC not fit to lace his shoes.

An Watcher

Yeah lucky us, a truly wonderful chap  ::)

Tony Baloney

GMac always seemed like a harmless enough sort of fella but he obviously putting serious value on his own opinion if he has put up his hand to articulate why they are doing it. Leaving aside the "moral outrage" he has just made himself look like an awful tosser. His personal circumstances are different from DJ etc. in that he's a relative nobody and probably just should have said that he's in decline and this was financially very attractive OR what I would have done which is keep the f**king head down amd say nothing til the lynch mob move onto the next target.

quit yo jibbajabba

Genuinely thought skysports was takin the p1ss yesterday when they captioned him as World no 374 😂😂 but then realised they were doing it with everyone.

Will he have a Saudi accent then in the next 5yrs...

Gabriel_Hurl

Bryson officially signed with LIV

Hound

Quote from: Applesisapples on June 10, 2022, 02:03:31 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 10, 2022, 12:15:43 PM
I'm not sure they can ban players with exemptions from taking part in majors.

Obviously the PGA tour can remove them from their money lis, which will get rid of half of them immediately. They can also apply serious pressure on how the handful of invites are used. But they won't be able to block out former winners, or those who finish in the top 25 the previous year etc.

With Bryson, DJ  and Phil all among recent major winners, it could be a decade before they'r "filtered out", and the landscape could be remarkably different by then.
I'm not sure this is so, the R&A withdrew Norman's invitation.
That's not quite true, he was neither invited nor exempt, so there was no withdrawal of invitation.

Norman was exempt until age 60, but is now 67. He asked for a special exemption for this year because it's the 150th British Open. But this was not granted. The only time such an exception was granted previously was for Tom Watson to play one last time at St Andrews. But Watson was a 5 time winner.

The R&A still haven't said anything yet re what they're going to do this year, but I'd presume they will follow the US Open and allow anyone who has qualified to compete.

One interesting thing from the USGA release was they said we set out the qualification procedures at the start of the year so won't be changing them. Reading between the lines, that gives them a window to change rules at the beginning of next year. Perhaps.

A big thing for LIV will be whether they can get world ranking points.  So far they've been turned down

Saffrongael

So how will a players career be defined now ? It's always been majors, Masters is invitational obviously so it's up to them who they invite & they may blackball them. Will a major win be diluted now if more and more bigger names go to LIV ?

Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Mikhail Prokhorov

Quote from: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
So how will a players career be defined now ? It's always been majors, Masters is invitational obviously so it's up to them who they invite & they may blackball them. Will a major win be diluted now if more and more bigger names go to LIV ?

prob should have an asterisk

majors will have very weak fields going forward  8)

onefineday

Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 12, 2022, 01:08:11 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
So how will a players career be defined now ? It's always been majors, Masters is invitational obviously so it's up to them who they invite & they may blackball them. Will a major win be diluted now if more and more bigger names go to LIV ?

prob should have an asterisk

majors will have very weak fields going forward  8)
Weak fields going forward??? Unless you know something the rest of us don't, not sure how that's the case.
As things stand nobody of note missing this year, likely to be same next few years too, but even if DJ, Bryson, reed were out, that wouldn't dilute the field. Looking at upcoming US Open they're 46/1, 120/1 and 130/1 to win, so hardly much of an asterisk needed.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 12, 2022, 01:08:11 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
So how will a players career be defined now ? It's always been majors, Masters is invitational obviously so it's up to them who they invite & they may blackball them. Will a major win be diluted now if more and more bigger names go to LIV ?

prob should have an asterisk

majors will have very weak fields going forward  8)

That'll mean Rory will be Irelands greatest ever golfer as those major winners from here on in will have those asterisks...

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Saffrongael

Quote from: onefineday on June 12, 2022, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 12, 2022, 01:08:11 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
So how will a players career be defined now ? It's always been majors, Masters is invitational obviously so it's up to them who they invite & they may blackball them. Will a major win be diluted now if more and more bigger names go to LIV ?

prob should have an asterisk

majors will have very weak fields going forward  8)
Weak fields going forward??? Unless you know something the rest of us don't, not sure how that's the case.
As things stand nobody of note missing this year, likely to be same next few years too, but even if DJ, Bryson, reed were out, that wouldn't dilute the field. Looking at upcoming US Open they're 46/1, 120/1 and 130/1 to win, so hardly much of an asterisk needed.

I think it's obvious more will follow to LIV though
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

nrico2006

Quote from: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: onefineday on June 12, 2022, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 12, 2022, 01:08:11 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
So how will a players career be defined now ? It's always been majors, Masters is invitational obviously so it's up to them who they invite & they may blackball them. Will a major win be diluted now if more and more bigger names go to LIV ?

prob should have an asterisk

majors will have very weak fields going forward  8)
Weak fields going forward??? Unless you know something the rest of us don't, not sure how that's the case.
As things stand nobody of note missing this year, likely to be same next few years too, but even if DJ, Bryson, reed were out, that wouldn't dilute the field. Looking at upcoming US Open they're 46/1, 120/1 and 130/1 to win, so hardly much of an asterisk needed.

I think it's obvious more will follow to LIV though

There has already been 3 recent major winners join LIV, inevitable that more top golfers will go too.
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