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I do laugh when they say people who vote for trump are in some kind of cult if the democrats put up Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar for the election they would all vote for them .

Ok.

What? The ones calling for censorship are the MAGA crowd.

I haven't seen that Eamonn... links?

U.S. House Republicans target 'explicit' books in school libraries

Book bans are on the rise in U.S. schools, fueled by new laws in Republican-led states

Everything You Need to Know About the Right-Wing War on Books

GOP lawmakers pass new standards to ban books from Texas schools

Here's the Long List of Topics Republicans Want Banned From the Classroom

I have a couple of friends who suffer and they say that running (or exercise in general) can really help. I'm not a sufferer but I know that running helps me destress. Plenty of clubs all across the country, as well as park runs every Saturday morning (which are good social events). Sorry if this has been raised before. I haven't read back through the whole thread.

Running or cycling is very helpful to me. A bit of cardio gets the endorphins going and promotes a feeling of wellbeing.

What? The ones calling for censorship are the MAGA crowd.

Some great stuff out there from the tinfoil hat crowd. I once saw a photo of one of the hijacked planes annotated with a big arrow pointing to the wing root, the part of the wing's structure that gets thickest where it meets the fuselage. The annotation read "The missile pod."

Apparently someone had somehow managed to retrofit a commercial airliner to carry a missile inside the wing, and fire it at the building before flying off.

I don't follow that stuff too closely, the algorithms these days can lead you down some dark places where all sorts of weirdos come together.

Can I have a one sentence summary of what this alternate theory is plz.  I'm exhausted with nonsense

The Illuminati spent a month painstakingly filling the building with Semtex without any office staff noticing, also including pyrotechnics to start fires as a false flag (without setting off the explosives, somehow), then waited until 9/11 when they hit the detonator and flattened the building, because reasons.

Maybe it was an insurance job or something.

Indeed. How dare that moderator have the gall to state the fact that in every single state it's illegal to kill babies just after they're born?

I've seen reference to it before. What's the basis to it?

it all stems from a city council meeting from Springfield Ohio where residents spoke about the shear numbers of Haitians resettled there without community consent and how they are not exactly assimilated into the community. One black guy talked about how they were going to city lakes and ponds and cutting the heads off ducks and eating them. Videos are out there to see and not a right wing conspiracy
Haiti of course was devastated by an earthquake in 2010 and the Clinton foundation along with great Irish man denis o Brien came along to save them only to end up being a complete disaster and Bill, denis and Hillary laughing all the way to the bank , a warning for Ukraine when the war is over beware of carpet baggers and Clinton Foundation.

Thanks. I was pretty sure it wasn't just made up.

I didn't take you for a credulous lad.

Why don't you ask Gmac/T24 to provide some of these videos he says are out there showing the theft and butchering of cats, dogs and ducks?

Ah, in fairness, I'm not all that invested in the US election. Trump is an oaf, and Harris is pretty horrendous to my eyes. They actually used to say they same around here - that Eastern Europeans were killing and eating the ducks and the swans. They probably were. And it's not as if I've never killed and eaten a duck. Dogs is a bit much, though... But, like - it's not THAT outlandish. It could easily be true. Some people dismiss anything Trump says, just because he said it, without trying to see if there's a grain of truth to it. I'm pretty sure Harris was exaggerating when she said about the policemen that had been killed on the 6th Jan.

Edit: Actually, I just did a bit of my own 'research', and found a video! At 2:40 - 3:00 is footage of a Haitian being arrested for killing a cat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIL3Ka3BS0o

Betting odds this morning:

Harris 20/21
Trump 11/10

[Wikipedia lol, what a joke.]

Quoth Wikipedia:

As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[30]: 18 (PDF p. 22)  and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[2]: 16, 18  The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between floors 24 and 41.[2]: 17  The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps instead of being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser, and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water.[31]: 11  Additionally, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[32]: 23–30 

After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[33] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center, the flames visible on the east side of the building.[34] During the afternoon, the fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[30]: 24 (PDF p. 28)  In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[3] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[35] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[36] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief of Operations Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[37]

The fire expanded the girders of the building, causing some to collapse. This led to the northeast corner core column (Column 79), which was especially large, to buckle below the 13th floor. This caused the floors above it to collapse to the transfer floor at the fifth level. The structure also developed cracks in the facade just before the entire building started to fall.[2]: 21 [38] According to FEMA, this collapse started at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling.[1]: 23 [39] Differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed:[39] at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA,[1]: 23  and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[2]: 19, 21, 50–51 

There were no casualties associated with the collapse.[38] NIST found no evidence to support conspiracy theories such as the collapse being the result of explosives; it found that a combination of factors including physical damage, fire, and the building's unusual construction set off a chain-reaction collapse.[40][41]

Wikipedia lol, what a joke. The defence will have you and whoever wrote that bs as their main witnesses lol.  What about watching the hours and hours of irrefutable evidence indicating that the official fairy tale is just that, a fairy tale. The irrefutable evidence brought to you by Richard Gage and his team of experts along with eye witness accounts.  It will only take a few pieces of evidence to get you questioning the big lie unless there is a vacuum between the ears. The common denominator of non critical thinkers is a fear of the truth, therefore I understand that you have no intentions of watching.

Here are the sources cited in that excerpt:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070809030232/http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

http://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire05/PDF/f05125.pdf

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110313.PDF

https://www.amazon.com/WTC-9-11-01-Day-Of-Disaster/dp/B004S8MGFM

https://web.archive.org/web/20070703101259/http://wtc.nist.gov/media/ScheuermanStatementDec2006.pdf

https://www.nist.gov/sites/default/files/documents/el/disasterstudies/ncst/ScheuermanStatementDec2006.pdf

http://www.firehouse.com/stateprovince/new-york/deputy-chief-peter-hayden

http://www.firehouse.com/stateprovince/new-york/captain-chris-boyle

https://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Nigro_Daniel.txt

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/nyregion/22wtccnd.html

https://archive.org/details/cbs200109111651-1733

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/nyregion/22wtccnd.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

https://www.bbc.com/news/58469600

But I suppose they're all in on it, aren't they?

I've seen reference to it before. What's the basis to it?

it all stems from a city council meeting from Springfield Ohio where residents spoke about the shear numbers of Haitians resettled there without community consent and how they are not exactly assimilated into the community. One black guy talked about how they were going to city lakes and ponds and cutting the heads off ducks and eating them. Videos are out there to see and not a right wing conspiracy
Haiti of course was devastated by an earthquake in 2010 and the Clinton foundation along with great Irish man denis o Brien came along to save them only to end up being a complete disaster and Bill, denis and Hillary laughing all the way to the bank , a warning for Ukraine when the war is over beware of carpet baggers and Clinton Foundation.

Thanks. I was pretty sure it wasn't just made up.

I didn't take you for a credulous lad.

Why don't you ask Gmac/T24 to provide some of these videos he says are out there showing the theft and butchering of cats, dogs and ducks?

I'm still waiting for him to produce the footage of the ruins of Portland, Oregon, which was burned to the ground by Antifa and no longer exists.

That's only true in swing states. 

If you live in NY or Texas, vote for who you want.  Given our system here, your vote is entirely irrelevant in such states.

Seen a post the other day that Texas has a good chance of coming into play in the next few elections, not sure how true that is?

On course to turn blue, or at least a toss-up, in 2028.

https://www.lonestarleft.com/p/will-texas-ever-turn-blue-heres-what

Even if it's a toss-up it'll work in favour of the Democrats, since Rethuglicans will now have to divert resources from other swing states to shore up Texas. They'll try to delay the inevitable with all sorts of voting restrictions, gerrymandering, and other shady shenanigans, but it'll only get them so far and they can't hold out forever.

When Texas flips blue it'll flip hard. The Democrats will repair the damage that Repubs did to the democratic process, they'll make it easier to vote, and after that it'll be another California with the Repubs banished to the wilderness for a generation. The Electoral College's days will be numbered at that point.

Briefly considered getting one, then didn't. Don't feel the need.

Quoth Wikipedia:

As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[30]: 18 (PDF p. 22)  and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[2]: 16, 18  The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between floors 24 and 41.[2]: 17  The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps instead of being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser, and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water.[31]: 11  Additionally, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[32]: 23–30 

After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[33] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center, the flames visible on the east side of the building.[34] During the afternoon, the fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[30]: 24 (PDF p. 28)  In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[3] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[35] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[36] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief of Operations Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[37]

The fire expanded the girders of the building, causing some to collapse. This led to the northeast corner core column (Column 79), which was especially large, to buckle below the 13th floor. This caused the floors above it to collapse to the transfer floor at the fifth level. The structure also developed cracks in the facade just before the entire building started to fall.[2]: 21 [38] According to FEMA, this collapse started at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling.[1]: 23 [39] Differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed:[39] at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA,[1]: 23  and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[2]: 19, 21, 50–51 

There were no casualties associated with the collapse.[38] NIST found no evidence to support conspiracy theories such as the collapse being the result of explosives; it found that a combination of factors including physical damage, fire, and the building's unusual construction set off a chain-reaction collapse.[40][41]

Trump slightly back into the lead in the betting odds at 20/21, Harris at 21/20. Probably because of the polling in Pennsylvania that has Trump slightly ahead.

The debate might move things a bit more in Harris's favour.