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There won't be a cow milked ...

That's very sad news. I had great regard for him, which increased with each argument we had. A real gentleman.

Happy Christmas and a healthy 2022.

Yeah, go Lions. British and Irish till I die.

Terry left us in body yesterday but he lives forever among Meath GAA people as the man whose goal won the 1967 All-Ireland Final. His standing outside the world of football, as a gentleman, gentle man, friend and neighbour is just as great.

https://meath.gaa.ie/rip-terry-kearns-st-vincents/

Question for Meath fans

Who is worse-  Céilidh McEnany or Banty ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Acyn/status/1256287956140056576

Kayleigh will keep us in Division one. I have her word on it.

I don't see the problem. How hard is it to skip what you don't want to read? Many of those articles would  be from sources most would not have subscriptions to.

Seafoid must get paid for sharing news articles

He loves it

Who's forcing anyone to read them? What can be wrong with providing access to further information on the subject of a thread? Do you complain that there are too many books in your local library?

Thanks - makes sense.

[Cheltenham is such a false flag]

Uk estimate of all excess deatgs due to coronavirus (hospital, home, nursing home) now 46,000

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1255183452527374337

The UK is paying for decisions made in March
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/revealed-three-uk-sporting-events-may-have-led-coronavirus-death/

The Cheltenham Festival, Liverpool's tie with Atletico Madrid and the Manchester derby all resulted in more coronavirus cases and deaths

It's a good thing that there was no Irish at those games or Cheltenham, Leo was on the ball early

Cheltenham is such a false flag, certainly didn't help but public transport barely gets a mention as a spreading vehicle. The London underground- 2m people per day before, during and after Cheltenham, along with every other form of public transport in the UK and Ireland.

Eh, you're comparing a non essential leisure event with a transport system holding one of the major cities in the world together. London was and is continuously mentioned as a major hotspot for the virus
250k odd sweaty drinkers hugging and coughing / slabbering over each other for days on end before departing to the 4 corners of Ireland and the UK. I personally know a GP who tested positive after he came back and him in contact with the most vulnerable.
Cheltenham should not have happened and should rightly be mentioned... Whoever gave the green light is carrying a heavy burden at this stage

Cheltenham brought people from all over, infected them and sent them home to infect people when the R number was at least 2.5. 1 infected person at Cheltenham with the R at 2.5 would have meant 406 infected after 30 days.
The Atletico match brought infection from Madrid and embedded it in Liverpool.
The UK now has the worst numbers in Europe. FT estimate 46,000 excess  deaths

Seafoid, just curious about the calculation that it takes 30 days to reach 406 as the number infected at R=2.5. That implies that the 2.5 people infected by each carrier are infected over a five day period. Is that the standard methodology for estimating the numbers infected for a given R?

[The CMO would only have so much control. Ultimately government make decisions. I would say the CMO has to bite their tongue a lot.]

Was there not a panorama on this kind of thing last night? The tories got slated. This kind of thing showed they cared about people more than money (as if we needed to know).

The CMO would only have so much control. Ultimately government make decisions. I would say the CMO has to bite their tongue a lot.

It's a bit more sinister and subtle than that, certainly in the UK. This is how they set up the CMO, CSA, etc. to take the blame:

Minister: What do we have to do to stop this thing spreading?
CMO: We have to test a large sample of the population and then do contact tracing.
Minister: But we don't have near enough testing gear or reagents to do that.  (Unspoken – because we implemented cutbacks to cut down the stockpile).
CMO: Then the only option is to lock down the population.

At the press conference:
Journalist: Minister, why are we locking people in their homes for a month?
Minister: We are implementing the scientific advice. We always follow the science.

I regularly see footage on the news of Garda officers checking that the distancing and isolation rules are being observed by sticking their heads into people's cars. And then standing shoulder to shoulder as they await the next car.

Bill Gates speaking on BBC news last week even with a rushed vaccine it will take 18 months for it all to be approved. He said normally it would take between 4 and 5 years in normal circumstances. We are in this for the Long haul.
On a side note parks allowed to open cemeteries are not?
Are our government stupid?

Could also replace the word parks with off licences. It's crazy. Open the damn graveyards.

Agreed, I think they need to open.  There's no more of a risk there than there is with ones out walking up and down footpaths.

With regard to off licences, there's a pretty delicate balance being struck between what they'd like to do to stamp out the virus and what the public will realistically accept.  The Americans are hovering around that line in certain, less mentally advantaged areas, shall we say.  Allowing people to have a beer means that they are probably a little more tolerant of some of the other restrictions.

Or if you close off licences, you'll get people wandering into Tesco and Aldi every hour of the day for 6-packs, making supermarkets even more treacherous to work in, and even more frustrating to visit.

Stop supermarkets selling alcohol and use the shelves for sanitiser or something useful.

But what's the sanitiser made of?

You are in deep denial. NY Times is no better than Fox News.

They haven't a shred of credibility

More whitey false equivalency.

"Believe what you want".

Believe what you want indeed

That hit job they attempted on Brett Kavanaugh in the fall shows just how contemptuous they are

They are flat out liars and (IMHO) are as bad if not worse than Fox and OAN

This is the big lie, beloved of yourself and the gang of right-wing nutjobs that you, of course, don't support, you being a liberal and all.

Your Dad's doing jail time for murder and rape.
- Your Dad got a fine for a broken tail light. He's a criminal too.

Believe whatever you want

Just look at how they treated Brett Kavanaugh last fall. Those 2 ladies were fvckin pure born liars-leaving in stuff that was false and taking out stuff that was true in an effort to further smear Kavanaugh. Based in that "editorial" several Democratic candidates actually said they would move to impeach Justice Kavanaugh should they get the nomination.

So here they are actively, intentionally and dishonestly undermining an institution that is critical to our entire Democracy, but that's fine in your and J70s book

NY Times has as much journalistic credibility as OAN

Do you have any embarrassment threshold?

You are in deep denial. NY Times is no better than Fox News.

They haven't a shred of credibility

More whitey false equivalency.

"Believe what you want".

Believe what you want indeed

That hit job they attempted on Brett Kavanaugh in the fall shows just how contemptuous they are

They are flat out liars and (IMHO) are as bad if not worse than Fox and OAN

This is the big lie, beloved of yourself and the gang of right-wing nutjobs that you, of course, don't support, you being a liberal and all.

Your Dad's doing jail time for murder and rape.
- Your Dad got a fine for a broken tail light. He's a criminal too.