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[REDCOL]

2010 Championship Panel – Mayo Senior Football Team

Name   Name as Gaeilge   Club   Club as Gaeilge

Chris Barrett   Críostóir Bairéid   Belmullet   Béal an Mhuirthead
Ger Cafferkey   Gearoid MacEafarcaigh   Ballina Stephenites   Na Stiofánaigh, Beal Átha an Fheada
David Clarke   Daithí Ó Cléirigh   Ballina Stephenites   Na Stiofánaigh, Beal Átha an Fheada
Kieran Conroy   Ciarán Ó Conraoi   Shrule-Glencorrib   Sruthair-Gleann Coirib
Tom Cunniffe   Tomas Ó Conduibh   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Alan Dillon   Alan Ó Diolun    Ballintubber   Baile an Tobair
Neil Douglas   Niall Mac Dúghlais   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Alan Feeney   Alan Ó Fiannaí   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Alan Freeman   Alan Mac an tSaoir   Aghamore   Achadh Mór
Peadar Gardiner   Peadar Ó Gardineir   Crossmolina   Crois Mhaoilíona
Patrick Harte   Padraig Ó hAirt   Ballina Stephenites   Na Stiofánaigh, Beal Átha an Fheada
Keith Higgins   Ceit Ó hUigínn   Ballyhaunis   Béal Átha hAmhnais
Trevor Howley   Traolach Ó hUallaigh   Knockmore   Cnoc Mór
Aidan Kilcoyne   Aodhán MacGiollacadhain   Knockmore   Cnoc Mór
Ronan McGarrity   Ronán MacFheartaigh   Ballina   Beal an Átha
Kevin McLoughlin   Caoimhín MacLaughlainn   Knockmore   Cnoc Mór
Andy Moran   Aindriú Ó Moráin   Ballaghaderreen   Bealach an Doirín
Barry Moran   Barra Ó Moráin   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Conor Mortimer   Concubhair Ó Muireartaigh   Shrule-Glencorrib   Sruthair-Gleann Coirib
Trevor Mortimer   Traolach Ó Muireartaigh    Shrule-Glencorrib   Sruthair-Gleann Coirib
Shane Nally   Seán Mac an Fhailí   Garrymore   Garraí Mór
Kenneth O'Malley   Cionnait Ó Máille   Ballinrobe   Baile an Róba
Liam O'Malley   Liam Ó Máille   Burrishoole   Buireas Uamhaill
Aidan O'Shea   Aodhán Ó Shea   Breaffy   Bréach Mhaigh
Seamus O'Shea   Seamus Ó Shea   Breaffy   Bréach Mhaigh
Billy Joe Padden   Liam Seosamh MacPháidín   Belmullet   Béal an Mhuirthead
Tom Parsons   Tomas MacPhearsúin   Charlestown   Baile an Chathail
Mark Ronaldson   Marc MacRaghnaill   Shrule-Glencorrib   Sruthair-Gleann Coirib
Enda Varley   Eanna Mac an Bhearlaigh   Garrymore   Garraí Mór
Donal Vaughan   Donal Ó Beachain   Ballinrobe   Baile an Róba

[REDCOL]

2010 Championship Panel – Mayo Minor Football Team

Name   Name as Gaeilge   Club   Club as Gaeilge

Ruari Byrne   Ruairí Ó Broinn   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Darren Coen   Darren Ó Cadhain   Hollymount   Maolla
Keith Coleman   Ceit Ó Colmáin   Ballintubber   Baile an Tobair
Cian Costello   Cian Ó Coisteala   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Darren Durkan   Darren Ó Durcáin   Parke   An Pháirc
Fergal Durkan   Feargal Ó Durcáin   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Michael Forde   Micheal MacGiollarnáth   Ballycastle   Baile an Chaisil
Niall Freeman   Niall Mac an tSaoir   Aghamore   Achadh Mór
Brendan Harrison   Breandán Ó hEarchaí   Aghamore   Achadh Mór
Conor Horan   Concubhair Ó hÓráin   Swinford   Béal Átha na Muice
Ciaran Kelly   Ciarán Ó Ceallaigh   Eastern Gaels   Gaeil an Oirthir
Sean Kelly   Sean Ó Ceallaigh   Moy Davitts   Daibhéidigh na Muaidhe
Danny Kirby   Dónal MacGeirbe   Castlebar Mitchels   Na Mistéalí, Caisléan an Bharraigh
Adrian Leonard   Adrian Ó Loinín   Lahardane   Leathardáin
Paul Mannion   Pól  Ó Mainnín   Mayo Gaels   Gaeil Mhaigheo
Eamonn McAndrew   Éamann MacAindriú   Belmullet   Béal an Mhuirthead
Jack McDonnell   Sean MacDómhnaill   Swinford   Béal Átha na Muice
Sean McGarry   Sean Mac an Fhearaigh   Ballina Stephenites   Na Stiofánaigh, Beal Átha an Fheada
Cillian O'Connor   Cillian Ó Conchubhair   Ballintubber   Baile an Tobair
Conor O'Shea   Concubhair Ó Sé   Breaffy   Bréach Mhaigh
Ryan Quirke   Ríain Ó Coirc   Claremorris   Clár Chlainne Mhuiris
Mark Regan   Marc Ó Riagáin   Moy Davitts   Daibhéidigh na Muaidhe
Josh Roynane   Seosamh Ó Ronáin   Davitts   Na Daibhéidigh
Keith Ruttledge   Ceit Ó Maoildeirg   Knockmore   Cnoc Mór
John Sammon   Sean Ó Bradáin   Burrishoole   Buireas Uamhaill
James Shaughnessy   Seamus Ó Seachnasaigh   Claremorris   Clár Chlainne Mhuiris
Brian Timlin   Brian Toimilín   Knockmore   Cnoc Mór
Ciaran Twomey   Ciarán Ó Túama   Ballina Stephenites   Na Stiofánaigh, Beal Átha an Fheada
David Twomey   Daithí Ó Túama   Ballina Stephenites   Na Stiofánaigh, Beal Átha an Fheada
Conor Walsh   Concubhair Breathnach   Balla   Ball Alainn

[moysider]

Good work REDCOL.

[rosnarun]

i can't believe People are picking cafferkey as a shoo in and leaving Mclouchlin out and thren metioming league form as a guide.

. Cafferkey has looked like a nervous minor for the bits of the league he wasnn't dropped for where ad K MCL has been a class act in almost every game.
I have to suspect its personal when i see people like barney picking Gardiner ahead of him

[GBXII]

Interesting teams being picked here. The team I would go for, for what it's worth, is:

                                                   Clarke

Howley                                      Cafferkey                                 Higgins

Vaughan                                    Cunniffe                                 McLoughlin

                                McGarrity                  S. O'Shea

A. Moran                                    Parsons                                   Dillon

C. Mortimer                                A. O'Shea                                A. Kilcoyne


Clarke isn't an issue. Howley, in my opinion just isn't a number 6 and I think Cunniffe is our best bet there. Better passer, more pace, and definitely better reader of the game, which is what it is all about at CHB. Cafferkey is our best FB and I think he'll improve. Higgins, while probably best at 5 or 7 is badly needed in the corner so he stays there.

Vaughan and McLoghlin have had very good league campaigns and it is hard to see them not starting unless JOM feels Gardiner would give the side some much needed experience.

At midfield, I think that playing the 3 lads (Parsons, McGarrity & O'Shea) could be very effective like it was at the beginning of the league before McGarrity got injured. And before everyone starts about Parsons lets not forget he had a very solid league campaign up until the final.

That leaves a space at 11 which I feel Dillon should occupy with Kilcoyne floating between 15 and 12, giving room to our 2 full forwards and space for the wing back to attack into.

Overall, I think T Mortimer is too much of liability to start with and could make a good impact sub. P Harte and Barry Moran are also contenders if/when fit and ready. Barrett and Ronaldson/Varley are also decent enough subs to be able to bring in.

[Farrandeelin]

Why not start Varley? I think he's as good as any of the other forwards you've mentioned there GBXII.

[GBXII]

Well he's a corner forward right?So he would be competing with Kilcoyne and Mortimer, I just think Mortimer and Kilcoyne are better and more proven than him but in fairness I have only seen play in this years legaue and he did very well so hopefully he turns out to be as good as the other forwards.

[moysider]

Much happier to be at our homebase here where we can bitch amongst ourselves, not have supporters of other teams tell us how crap we are (despite the fact that we get results that they could only dream of) and have ourselves written up as delusional Sam seekers who do nothing but tell the country that we are going to win the All Ireland this year and every year. Lazy analysis taken from lazy journalists.

Is that not a cheap shot? I can only speak for myself but I don't think I have ever said anything that I didn't feel to be true and I've tried top rationalize my opinions and defend them reasonably. I think most other non-Mayo posters did the same. It isn't a good sign of a county if you feel the need to block out the rest of the world and dismiss the views of others as those of jealous outsiders. There are real problems in Mayo football and you are not producing footballers of the necessary quality, hard questions need to be asked and though I have a lot of respect for the majority of the Mayo lads who post here if ye'd prefer to lock yourselves away behind your boarders and blame manager after manager then you might find the search for Sam go on for much longer.

I'm not suggesting, by the way, that posters like myself have the answer or anything but the opinions of those coming at the problem from a different perspective can often highlight issues that people closer to the coalface fail to see sometimes.

I and I m sure a lot of Mayo posters would agree that we are off the pace as regards winning an AI any time soon. What bothers me though is when we are unhappy with a certain display or selections, outsiders tell us we re lucky to have such a fine manager and he s doing quite well with the limitations at his disposal.
Some of us have been asking the hard questions. For a long time.
Most counties are not producing the necessary quality. Cork happen to have arrived in a good place again after 20 years. Success is largely down to several quality players emerging around the same time. It s happened in places like Tyrone and Armagh. It happens in Kerry more often than anywhere else. It happened in Donegal and Derry too. They would have had the formula if there was a formula as well. Another Downey, Twohill, Brolly off the production line please there. Did nt happen for them again.
Sure we blame managers. They re the guys flyin the plane and they've gone down in The Hudson a few times. From Johnno mark1 through Maughan, Holmes and Johnno again there have been some desperate calls. One AI at least, was left behind by management. They are entitled to our wrath.
  Johnno's treatment of the senior players since his return has not been pleasant and has n t been profitable either. He s broken eggs but failed to make an omlette. And on our latest crash and burn, it should be remembered that Johnno was playing with his own deck of cards. That s what he put together. He must be judged on that.
His supporters will argue that he was going with the best available. But that is not the case. As I ve said before we re going around in circles on this one.
The fact that our search for Sam has gone on so long and may go on as long again is nothing to do with us posters. The blazers that are running the show dont listen to anybody. I m not sure Sam is even on their agenda. They re all too busy minding their own little fiefdoms and making sure nobody is put in charge of a team that will break any moulds. We re a conservative county run by conservative men. And judging by attendances at games this year the punter in Mayo has got the message and moved on. They ve been told to mind their own business and they have. 

[AbbeySider]

I cant understand people putting Tom Cunniffe on their team when he has hardly played two games at any level in the past year. Strange!

[moysider]

I cant understand people putting Tom Cunniffe on their team when he has hardly played two games at any level in the past year. Strange!

That s where I was coming from earlier.

[RedandGreenSniper]

I cant understand people putting Tom Cunniffe on their team when he has hardly played two games at any level in the past year. Strange!

Mark my words, he'll be centre-half back v Sligo. Not saying I agree with that - I don't, I would have Vaughan or Conroy there or maybe even Cafferkey - but JOM rates him for that position. I do think he has a lot to offer as a wing-back but nowhere else. I know you don't rate him Abbeysider but I'd have him up there with Gardiner battling for five with Vaughan inside. But the championship half-back line will be - Vaughan - Cunniffe - McLoughlin.

Moysider, I'd agree with you in your response to Zulu. I've yet to meet anyone in Mayo who expects an All-Ireland anytime immediate. We maybe once were a demanding group of supporters, but we're very realistic now, perhaps too much so. Every outsider seems to think our criticism of any part of Mayo football is predicated upon a belief that we may win an All-Ireland. All we want is to give us the best chance of being as good as we can be.We don't have the players to win an All-Irelnad, imho, but it would be nice to think that we could pick the best team, play with some tactical nous and not collapse at the first sign of a big game.

[ballinaman]

I cant understand people putting Tom Cunniffe on their team when he has hardly played two games at any level in the past year. Strange!

Mark my words, he'll be centre-half back v Sligo. Not saying I agree with that - I don't, I would have Vaughan or Conroy there or maybe even Cafferkey - but JOM rates him for that position. I do think he has a lot to offer as a wing-back but nowhere else. I know you don't rate him Abbeysider but I'd have him up there with Gardiner battling for five with Vaughan inside. But the championship half-back line will be - Vaughan - Cunniffe - McLoughlin.

Moysider, I'd agree with you in your response to Zulu. I've yet to meet anyone in Mayo who expects an All-Ireland anytime immediate. We maybe once were a demanding group of supporters, but we're very realistic now, perhaps too much so. Every outsider seems to think our criticism of any part of Mayo football is predicated upon a belief that we may win an All-Ireland. All we want is to give us the best chance of being as good as we can be.We don't have the players to win an All-Irelnad, imho, but it would be nice to think that we could pick the best team, play with some tactical nous and not collapse at the first sign of a big game.

Ya, i agree that Cunniffe will start at number 6, he played well there for last years league and the u21s a few years ago but I'd have to agree, wing back would suit him alot more so.
Exactly, just like to get some pride back would be nice. I think that one of the most satisfying aspects of the win in 06 v Dublin, least we showed some fight and pride....only to have it wiped clean again a few weeks later.

[AbbeySider]

I cant understand people putting Tom Cunniffe on their team when he has hardly played two games at any level in the past year. Strange!

Mark my words, he'll be centre-half back v Sligo. Not saying I agree with that - I don't, I would have Vaughan or Conroy there or maybe even Cafferkey - but JOM rates him for that position. I do think he has a lot to offer as a wing-back but nowhere else. I know you don't rate him Abbeysider but I'd have him up there with Gardiner battling for five with Vaughan inside. But the championship half-back line will be - Vaughan - Cunniffe - McLoughlin.
...

Ya, i agree that Cunniffe will start at number 6, he played well there for last years league and the u21s a few years ago but I'd have to agree, wing back would suit him alot more so.

Im willing to give the guy a chance, but I think its suicide playing someone that has played only two club games in the past year and expect him to be able to play centre back for Mayo come championship, when he has not had a minute of inter-county football this year AFAIA. The guy was in college in England and had no football.

In fact, its even crazier than bringing back BJP onto the panel, who has dont very little of note either.

Vaughan, Cafferkey, Conroy and even Howley would be ahead of Cunniffe in my book - only because of the lack of match practice and Cunniffe being unproven at senior level - yet.

I heard he wasnt the best at the weekend against Breaffy, but in fairness what was Ford thinking putting him centre forward? Was he being accommodated? Is Eoin O Reilly seen as a better Centre Back for Mitchels?

Were you at the game R&GS? Do I ask too many questions? 

[RedandGreenSniper]

Do I ask too many questions? 

YES

[Barney]

If fully fit I think Tom Cunniffe is our best option to try at CHB.

I agree fully with those that say he hasn't the game time - but some change is needed. I don't think Vaughan is domniant enough for the position. In fact I don't really think we have any good candidates for the position. He will start there though. And will be flanked by Vaughan and Gardiner whatever we might think - the manager is a big Gardiner fan and named him vice-captain - if fit he will start. Its hard to get the team than on!

But this problem of players only coming along for the championship ride isn't a new one - last year we had Trevor Howley, David Heaney, Kilcoyne and Barry Moran all in the championship team come the Summer without any hard winter work. It does show, and even though some of them are our best options they will be off the pace.

The League Final probably means the end of this current set-up unless something dramatic happens during the Summer. We are not All Ireland winning material but we are certainly in a position to put up a better fight. Unless something dramatic happens the results v Galway, v Derry in year 1; the inability to finish off Tyrone in year 2; the defeat to Meath last year; and the thrashing by Cork this year is evidence of a consistent trend and it can be ignored and we can stay the same or politics can be put to the side, a change made, and maybe we can get out best options on the pitch for a championship battle. Right now a win v Sligo looks like the only possible high this Summer. Galway will beat us and after that it will be the luck of the draw but any half-decent team will push us over the edge.