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["to stick it to the f**king Prods"]

Completely agree, get it built if GAA members were asked to contribute £1 each to make up the short fall I'm sure they would do it in a heart beat. The GAA community in the north need this stadium and they needed it yesterday.

I for one would not even contribute the steam off my piss.
If it goes ahead as planned, its hanging a massive millstone around the neck of the Ulster Council (UC) for decades, and that will have real connotations for UC coaching development etc.


When the ongoing maintenance costs of the ivory towers becomes clear in due course, the level of stupidity in calling for this stadium as currently designed will also become crystal clear.



I'd much rather put my money into any club looking to make a second pitch or changing rooms - something of far more benefit.

Unreal.....can you not see past the nose on your face, future generations should have this stadium.
The great days of going to Clones on Ulster final day are a thing of the past, and live only in our heads.
Why can we not have a stadium where you can get the same feeling of pride walking into it as you do when going into Croke Park and its only up the road.

I don't understand how anyone can think this new stadium is just gonna magically fall out of the money tree. It will consume millions of the GAA's revenue for years to come. That means less coaches for underage teams, increased ticket prices, fewer development grants for clubs, dilapidated county grounds because there's no money to repair or replace them.

A 250 mil Casement is a financial millstone that will weigh around the neck of every club in Ulster for years and years and years. And the only f**king reason you and illdecide can come up with for building it is "to stick it to the f**king Prods".

LOL away and catch yourself on.

You'll be happy enough when Ulster GAA send your club a bill for 180,000?

You sir are talking sh1te. I'm not sticking nothing up to the Prods, I keep posting it's being blocked because it's for the GAA and the Unionist/Loyalist community would rather die than see this stadium built, that's a fact. I can't see what's wrong with making a factual statement like that. I've said many times if this scenario was Windsor Park or Ravenhill it would have been already built (The GAA didn't cover themselves in glory with this either). That's my opinion and you're entitled to yours...Sin e.
Ohh and why would you think the Ulster Council would bill every club for that money?. I'm hoping you were taking the P155

First of all for the 1000th time it can't be f**king built somewhere else...It's Casement or nowt.
Maybe VAT on ticket sales wasn't mentioned enough so maybe throw it in another few times there.
It's not being scaled back so please stop saying built it with the money you have and cut your cloth...They're going all out for the 34k stadium.
As for planning...once you have full planning in place you can construct a wall as part of the project and come back in 10 years and finish it if you feel like it unless there is a special planning requirement placed as part of the approval that the works must be complete in a certain time frame, this is usually in place if the Construction works is having a major impact on others around or major infrastructure etc.
It is us v them whether you like or not and them are more bitter and twisted than us, them hate us and don't want us to have anything and we should just crawl back under the rock and be quiet.
If only i'd have won the Euro millions on Tue nite I could have funded the rest of it myself...

It's like the night before Christmas.

A bag of coal left in the middle of the pitch

Donegal v Mayo - Donegal by 3
Cavan v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Kerry v Meath - Kerry by 7
Cork v Roscommon - Draw
Monaghan v Down - Monaghan by 3
Louth v Clare - Louth by 3
Armagh v Galway - Galway by 4
Derry v Dublin - Dublin by 5

Why are most of you singling out Casement Pk for funding?. Funding is allocated to projects from Governments both Brits, Irish and Lottery etc all the time and has done for years. The grants can be questioned for all projects and asked is it value for money and is it needed. Did we need Ravenhill, Windsor Park, Dundonald Ice Bow. Did all the schools need upgraded or rebuilt, do Translink need £100m every year for subsidiary, do we need all this?. The truth is we can build cheaper and stop free travel for pensioners and pay for prescriptions, the point is funding is provided all the time and in most cases will not be value for money.
Did Ulster Council and GAA f**K it up?. Absolutely they did, no one is denying this but FFS just get on with it and build the poxy thing, you can go on-line and yap about something else to fill your joyful day or get a life.

Whether we like it or not we are taxpaying members of the British state, so every time they piss millions up the wall its coming out of our pockets. Spending hundreds of millions on a stadium that will be lucky to be filled 15 times in the next 20 years is bordering on the immoral. The IFA and Ulster rugby lads at least had the brains to cut their cloth accordingly. I don't see why we should be giving the GAA free reign to build a white elephant that will weigh around the neck of those funding it like a millstone.

If the GAA had sense and built a good sound 20,000 seater stadium for Antrim back in 2011 then we'd have none of this perpetual shitshow since. What's unforgiveable is that after nearly 20 years of getting kicked back they still haven't taken the hint that they should just build a smaller, more sensible stadium that's acceptable to the residents and acceptable for their sponsors (the british gov, GAA) to finance.

Of all the things you've listed none come anywhere near the level of waste that Casement will be. Ravenhill was redeveloped into an 18,000 seater for ~15 million, Windsor was 30 million. Ulster GAA are looking 250 million to do Casement. Comparing Casement funding to Translink or schools funding is just a strawman argument. Schools are used 5 days a week, 40 weeks a year, a vital part of our society and always have been. Translink move thousands of people daily, to work, for travel, to hospital appts. Just because there is sometimes waste or inefficiency their tendering in no way justifies spunking 100 million on a Ulster GAA vanity project.

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

I don't disagree with your points and it might sound that way in some of the things i'm saying but maybe i'm not wording it right...I've said from day 1 the GAA made a balls of the thing and that's a fact. It has been politicised and is a bit like us v them for it...Ravenhill and Windsor were considerably cheaper but if they were being built now they'd be 3 or 4 times the original cost and that's another fact so people are not considering this when they're factoring in the cost of Casement but my main point is when the Government gave £50m or whatever the figure was to an ice bowl in Dundonald no one batted an eye lid or complained that there was no call for it or one half the size was enough for the people that attended it but once GAA is mentioned it's a different story. I actually don't care if they build Casement with 34k or 20k I just want it built but I would prefer it with 34k and have Ulster finals and maybe All Ireland quarter finals in it too. Concerts and other events would be perfect and the area would flourish with it there

Why are most of you singling out Casement Pk for funding?.

Because it's topical. Not that f**king hard to figure out.

Alright smart arse...

Why are most of you singling out Casement Pk for funding?. Funding is allocated to projects from Governments both Brits, Irish and Lottery etc all the time and has done for years. The grants can be questioned for all projects and asked is it value for money and is it needed. Did we need Ravenhill, Windsor Park, Dundonald Ice Bow. Did all the schools need upgraded or rebuilt, do Translink need £100m every year for subsidiary, do we need all this?. The truth is we can build cheaper and stop free travel for pensioners and pay for prescriptions, the point is funding is provided all the time and in most cases will not be value for money.
Did Ulster Council and GAA f**K it up?. Absolutely they did, no one is denying this but FFS just get on with it and build the poxy thing, you can go on-line and yap about something else to fill your joyful day or get a life.

I hear the Brits have stomped up the cash, it will be released in such a way that it will not send the bitter, catholic hating, sectarian, racist, twisted brethren into a meltdown.

How are they planning to do that?

I've no idea, just what I think. But if there's a way of hiding things and doing it illegally then the Brits are experts at it.

Like forging safety certs?

I hear the Brits have stomped up the cash, it will be released in such a way that it will not send the bitter, catholic hating, sectarian, racist, twisted brethren into a meltdown.

How are they planning to do that?

I've no idea, just what I think. But if there's a way of hiding things and doing it illegally then the Brits are experts at it.

I hear the Brits have stomped up the cash, it will be released in such a way that it will not send the bitter, catholic hating, sectarian, racist, twisted brethren into a meltdown.

Galway will beat Armagh handy enough, Armagh will be playing a lot of lads that need game time and haven't got much football. They will be trying to win the game but a lot of changes plus not needing a result usually ends one way. The Tribesmen to win by 4-5pts in the end after an Armagh rally late on to bring the score line down a bit and put some respectability on the scoreboard.

Armagh hosting Monaghan & Down on the Sunday.

Surely that means Armagh v Galway on the Saturday then going by some of the posts above where Armagh won't host on the same day they play?

Why?

Some Armagh fans sicken my hole about Rian...when he had the ball on Sunday they were shouting "Shoot", when he didn't have the ball they were shouting "pass it to Rian" like he can shit gold bars ffs. He's a good player who's not nowhere near match fit yet but he's still only one man. As for the debate on who's the better player, they're different players with different attributes and would love both them on my Armagh team but if i had to only pick one DC would get my vote...just saying.

2 rounds in and the picture is becoming slightly clearer. Top 9 all capable of beating each other but hard to see all ireland winner not coming from top 3.

1. Armagh
2. Kerry
3. Donegal
4. Galway
5. Tyrone
6. Dublin
7. Mayo
8. Monaghan
9. Derry
10. Down
11. Meath
12. Louth
13. Roscommon
14. Cavan
15. Cork
16. Kildare
17. Clare
18. Westmeath
19. Fermanagh
20. Offaly
21. Sligo
22. Wicklow
23. Limerick
24. Laois
25. Wexford
26. Carlow
27. Antrim
28. Longford
29. Leitrim
30. Tipperary
31. London
32. Waterford
33. New York

My top 10 would be
1) Kerry
2) Donegal
3) Armagh
4) Galway
5) Dublin
6) Tyrone
7) Mayo
Derry
9) Monaghan
10) Rossies

Kerry have the best players from what i seen so far but may well get caught out when they finally meet a top Div 1 team due to playing lesser opposition and not battle hardened. Donegal are Ulster Champions and beat Armagh only a few weeks ago so have no2 spot for me. Armagh at 3 very closely followed by Galway and Dublin. Galway will get better and so will the Dubs who kicked a few bad wides and gave 3 20m free's for breach in a 5 min spell which won't happen again. It's very open and all top 10 ten teams can beat anyone in a one off game, it should be a good Championship and injuries with a wee bit of luck on the day any team in my top 6 can win SAM. (just my opinion of course)

I used to design pitches and all that come with them like lights, dugouts and fencing etc. Haven't done it in a while and I know the technology has moved on from the 2KW halogen bulbs. Athletic Grounds in Armagh have changed over to LED or similar so running costs and maintenance would drop considerably now i'd imagine.
It really depends on your budget and the level of lighting you want, if you are a big ground and there could ever be a chance of a televised game then you'd want 1000 lux levels but thats more for County grounds, club grounds for matches will want to be aiming for 500-600 Lux levels and if it's for a training pitch with no matches 200 Lux levels will be grand...It's all down to budget and the level of lighting required and as for columns this will be part of your design and what space you have, if you look at most new football (soccer) grounds now they have their lights on the roof of their stands but they're high enough to achieve the lighting required rather than put big massive pylons or columns restricting views. 18m columns are quite popular but my club has 25m high columns with 1 at each corner of the ground...hope that helps