Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 03, 2024, 09:45:41 PMYou almost think ten Haag wants to get sacked with some of his decisions
His decision to bring on Maguire earned a draw for his ten man side.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 03, 2024, 09:45:41 PMYou almost think ten Haag wants to get sacked with some of his decisions
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 03, 2024, 09:44:23 PMBruno Fernandes steps up again.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2024, 08:36:12 PMUtd went 2 nil up, I got a £10 free bet and was going to stick it on Porto at 12/1 lol.. Wish I did FFSA repeat of the European games last season when United was 2-0 ahead against Galatasaray,Copenhagen.
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2024, 11:04:44 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on October 01, 2024, 11:02:57 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on October 01, 2024, 09:24:17 AMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 01, 2024, 09:02:02 AMThe biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days', etc etc.Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.
Here's the thing, historically United have had 2 periods, 1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful, but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history, pre 1992.
As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!
Wasn't Busby in a simliar honorary position as Ferguson and was attendance for the 1992/93 season to see United win their first league title for 20 plus years.
He was exactly and was about the ground and training centre quite a bit during that time.
I don't think Ferguson has the influence or sway that he once had at the club.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 01, 2024, 09:24:17 AMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 01, 2024, 09:02:02 AMThe biggest mistake that United have made is having Ferguson about so much. I know they can't do anything about it but honestly until he is completely off side then his influence will continue to permeate through the club. Harking back to the 'good old days', etc etc.Mind reading that one of the first things Ferguson done was to road Busby from about the place.
Here's the thing, historically United have had 2 periods, 1950's to late 1960's under Busby and Ferguson era. Outside of that they have been bang average. A few FA Cups. These two
Managers won 18 out of 20 leagues and all their Euro titles. That says a lot. Outside of that they have fluctuated around upper mid table in the league and picked off a few FA/League cups. They should be better than they are, and the set up is dreadful, but in real terms the success is reflective of the majority of their history, pre 1992.
As for Keane....please do...would be beautiful!!!
Quote from: thewobbler on September 30, 2024, 10:53:59 PMThe calls for Keane are, well, bizarre.Don't see anything in the media calling for Roy Keane to become Man Uniteds next manager. He's 175/1 in odds which speaks for itself.
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 29, 2024, 05:38:14 PMSeems like the same old crap. Ten Hag will be gone within weeks .
Southgate will be in, possibly as caretaker until the end of the season.
In reality, who else is out there? Or who out there would touch it?
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 27, 2024, 07:14:28 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on September 27, 2024, 04:32:29 PMQuote from: weareros on September 27, 2024, 03:26:11 PMLooks like The King is Dead!
Who's next?
Elton John going by my recommendation.
Off you go there.....
Quote from: Look-Up! on September 27, 2024, 05:10:34 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on September 27, 2024, 04:26:51 PMBig difference is Pep has worked with and improved his players and signed very few flops. So he has recuperated a lot of that 1bn in sales so the net spend is actually very good. I think he's down in 10th place for net spend in the league compared to other clubs all while winning 4 in a row plus the treble. What Chelsea and Utd have spent alongside him is criminal considering how they have performed on the field in that time.Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 27, 2024, 03:26:57 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on September 27, 2024, 01:54:21 PMUtd are feeling the pinch because they have wasted so much money last few years and got very little return on the field from their spending. They thought they would spend their way to the top. They didn't. This eventually had a knock on effect on their revenue streams which has left them maxed out and reality is finally starting to bite with them.
No other club could operate like this and survive as long as they have. People focus on City because they have actually performed on the pitch. Over performed you could argue.
I agree 100% City have been extremely intelligent in how they have invested their money and now they can sustain themselves without spending too much.
Incredible academy too which they can sell off a player or to every year to raise funds.
Other clubs have spent similar amounts of money and are in a mess.
Since becoming Man City's manager in 2016, Guardiola has spent over 1 billion on new players in the transfer market. 115 charges to their name for breaking financial fair play rules and remains to be seen how that trial goes. A bad outcome and Pep and most of the high profile players will jump ship before it sinks.
Another big indicator is wages. City have a huge bill but they are consistently winning and getting to the business end of CL so that's sustainable. What Chelsea and Utd are at is not. Look at Utd's top earners. 5 are on over 200K a week but only 1 you could say is a first teamer. 3 are over 300k and only 1 first teamer. Throw in Maguire on 190k. How many at City could you say are similarly flopped? Maybe Grealish but he has actually chipped in at crucial moments in campaigns with vital goals.
You don't have to like the manager, club or owners but to say their success is down to financial doping is very very blinkered thinking.
Quote from: weareros on September 27, 2024, 03:26:11 PMLooks like The King is Dead!
Who's next?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 27, 2024, 03:26:57 PMQuote from: Look-Up! on September 27, 2024, 01:54:21 PMUtd are feeling the pinch because they have wasted so much money last few years and got very little return on the field from their spending. They thought they would spend their way to the top. They didn't. This eventually had a knock on effect on their revenue streams which has left them maxed out and reality is finally starting to bite with them.
No other club could operate like this and survive as long as they have. People focus on City because they have actually performed on the pitch. Over performed you could argue.
I agree 100% City have been extremely intelligent in how they have invested their money and now they can sustain themselves without spending too much.
Incredible academy too which they can sell off a player or to every year to raise funds.
Other clubs have spent similar amounts of money and are in a mess.