Premier League 2021-22

Started by Boycey, July 12, 2021, 09:51:22 AM

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imtommygunn

Yeah he'd have to have had. It would just make you a bit nervous particularly if you were in his family or whatever.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2022, 09:42:56 AM
Yeah he'd have to have had. It would just make you a bit nervous particularly if you were in his family or whatever.

I think there is another player playing with similar device
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

lurganblue

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2022, 09:52:48 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2022, 09:42:56 AM
Yeah he'd have to have had. It would just make you a bit nervous particularly if you were in his family or whatever.

I think there is another player playing with similar device

Daley Blind

Captain Obvious

Claudio Ranieri has been sacked by Watford after just three months in charge

quit yo jibbajabba

Though this does mean Woys comin back 😎

Captain Obvious

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 24, 2022, 11:27:54 PM
Though this does mean Woys comin back 😎
He's back. Roy Hodgson has been announced as Watford's new head coach.

laoislad

All the big teams through to next round of the FA Cup. No major shocks this round. Kidderminster came the closest to a shock win.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: laoislad on February 06, 2022, 02:08:24 PM
All the big teams through to next round of the FA Cup. No major shocks this round. Kidderminster came the closest to a shock win.
And United.

Mikhail Prokhorov

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2022, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 06, 2022, 02:08:24 PM
All the big teams through to next round of the FA Cup. No major shocks this round. Kidderminster came the closest to a shock win.
And United.

they were playing west ham united   ???

Hound

Study by Switzerland-based independent research group CIES Football Observatory on net spend on transfers from 2012.

1. Manchester United €1.075bn (€1.545bn on transfers, less €470m back in player sales)
2. Manchester City €984m (€1.699bn - €715m)
3. Paris St Germain €941m
4. Barcelona €650m
5. Arsenal €583m
6. Juventus €561m
7. AC Milan €432m
8. Everton €429m
9. Aston Villa €424m
10. Chelsea €413m

No surprise that England has 6 in the Top Ten (England have 14 in the top 20). Liverpool are 14th €347m. Real and At Madrid have both spent over a billion in the time period, but got back over €900m each in transfer fees received. 
I knew Arsenal and Everton had wasted hundred of millions on shite players, but hadn't expected to see Villa on the list.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2021/wp367/en/

shark

Quote from: Hound on February 07, 2022, 04:31:09 PM
Study by Switzerland-based independent research group CIES Football Observatory on net spend on transfers from 2012.

1. Manchester United €1.075bn (€1.545bn on transfers, less €470m back in player sales)
2. Manchester City €984m (€1.699bn - €715m)
3. Paris St Germain €941m
4. Barcelona €650m
5. Arsenal €583m
6. Juventus €561m
7. AC Milan €432m
8. Everton €429m
9. Aston Villa €424m
10. Chelsea €413m

No surprise that England has 6 in the Top Ten (England have 14 in the top 20). Liverpool are 14th €347m. Real and At Madrid have both spent over a billion in the time period, but got back over €900m each in transfer fees received. 
I knew Arsenal and Everton had wasted hundred of millions on shite players, but hadn't expected to see Villa on the list.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2021/wp367/en/

Those figures are dwarfed by their wage bills though. And that's where the real discrepancies lie when comparing the largest clubs to those behind them. It's also the most accurate indicator of expected success. Villa's wage bill is the 11th highest in the league - which is where they finished last season.
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

trileacman

Quote from: Hound on February 07, 2022, 04:31:09 PM
Study by Switzerland-based independent research group CIES Football Observatory on net spend on transfers from 2012.

1. Manchester United €1.075bn (€1.545bn on transfers, less €470m back in player sales)
2. Manchester City €984m (€1.699bn - €715m)
3. Paris St Germain €941m
4. Barcelona €650m
5. Arsenal €583m
6. Juventus €561m
7. AC Milan €432m
8. Everton €429m
9. Aston Villa €424m
10. Chelsea €413m

No surprise that England has 6 in the Top Ten (England have 14 in the top 20). Liverpool are 14th €347m. Real and At Madrid have both spent over a billion in the time period, but got back over €900m each in transfer fees received. 
I knew Arsenal and Everton had wasted hundred of millions on shite players, but hadn't expected to see Villa on the list.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2021/wp367/en/

PSG isnt really that bad considered almost 1/4 of the bill is one man.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

screenexile

Quote from: Hound on February 07, 2022, 04:31:09 PM
Study by Switzerland-based independent research group CIES Football Observatory on net spend on transfers from 2012.

1. Manchester United €1.075bn (€1.545bn on transfers, less €470m back in player sales)
2. Manchester City €984m (€1.699bn - €715m)
3. Paris St Germain €941m
4. Barcelona €650m
5. Arsenal €583m
6. Juventus €561m
7. AC Milan €432m
8. Everton €429m
9. Aston Villa €424m
10. Chelsea €413m

No surprise that England has 6 in the Top Ten (England have 14 in the top 20). Liverpool are 14th €347m. Real and At Madrid have both spent over a billion in the time period, but got back over €900m each in transfer fees received. 
I knew Arsenal and Everton had wasted hundred of millions on shite players, but hadn't expected to see Villa on the list.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2021/wp367/en/

That can't be right because Man Ure aren't like those other clubs who spend too much money on their teams... 🤔🤔

Tony Baloney

Quote from: screenexile on February 07, 2022, 10:48:15 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 07, 2022, 04:31:09 PM
Study by Switzerland-based independent research group CIES Football Observatory on net spend on transfers from 2012.

1. Manchester United €1.075bn (€1.545bn on transfers, less €470m back in player sales)
2. Manchester City €984m (€1.699bn - €715m)
3. Paris St Germain €941m
4. Barcelona €650m
5. Arsenal €583m
6. Juventus €561m
7. AC Milan €432m
8. Everton €429m
9. Aston Villa €424m
10. Chelsea €413m

No surprise that England has 6 in the Top Ten (England have 14 in the top 20). Liverpool are 14th €347m. Real and At Madrid have both spent over a billion in the time period, but got back over €900m each in transfer fees received. 
I knew Arsenal and Everton had wasted hundred of millions on shite players, but hadn't expected to see Villa on the list.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2021/wp367/en/

That can't be right because Man Ure aren't like those other clubs who spend too much money on their teams... 🤔🤔
Definitely not. Sure they're a traditional club, totally unlike their oil-rich neighbours buying trophies  ;)

thewobbler

Quote from: shark on February 07, 2022, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 07, 2022, 04:31:09 PM
Study by Switzerland-based independent research group CIES Football Observatory on net spend on transfers from 2012.

1. Manchester United €1.075bn (€1.545bn on transfers, less €470m back in player sales)
2. Manchester City €984m (€1.699bn - €715m)
3. Paris St Germain €941m
4. Barcelona €650m
5. Arsenal €583m
6. Juventus €561m
7. AC Milan €432m
8. Everton €429m
9. Aston Villa €424m
10. Chelsea €413m

No surprise that England has 6 in the Top Ten (England have 14 in the top 20). Liverpool are 14th €347m. Real and At Madrid have both spent over a billion in the time period, but got back over €900m each in transfer fees received. 
I knew Arsenal and Everton had wasted hundred of millions on shite players, but hadn't expected to see Villa on the list.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2021/wp367/en/

Those figures are dwarfed by their wage bills though. And that's where the real discrepancies lie when comparing the largest clubs to those behind them. It's also the most accurate indicator of expected success. Villa's wage bill is the 11th highest in the league - which is where they finished last season.
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

Absolutely right.

Some football fans use net spend as a badge of honour that their beloved club is doing it in a more saintly way. As a principle it fully ignores that free transfers and final-year-of-contract transfers just mean are the new normal, and just tilt their outlandish expenditure into players' pockets instead of those of other clubs.

And that's before ignoring the fact that one major inbound or outbound just outside their massaged time window for net spend, can skew everything,

But one thing that's for sure though, is that Manchester United's recruitment policy over the past decade has been abysmal. Even their most ardent follower can't ignore all that black and white.