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« Reply #19095 on: January 25, 2022, 09:31:45 PM »
Olavo de Carvalho, the coronavirus-denying mentor of Jair Bolsonaro and Brazilís radical right, has died in the United States from Covid. He did a lot of harm as many Brazilians refused the vaccine on his advice, so he was responsible for many deaths. As Iíve said before though these Covid deniers, anti vax nut jobs are a dying breed.

I see Sarah Palin got it, a good dose for a Dose.
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« Reply #19096 on: January 25, 2022, 10:33:14 PM »
Strange behaviour

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« Reply #19097 on: January 27, 2022, 12:33:26 PM »
https://www.ft.com/content/d402d072-f19a-4f75-80c6-e6973c3137cd

The lead scientist on the Zoe Covid study has said coronavirus infections in the UK have risen, as children return to schools and a subtype of the Omicron variant of coronavirus emerges.
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« Reply #19098 on: January 27, 2022, 12:57:02 PM »
https://www.ft.com/content/d402d072-f19a-4f75-80c6-e6973c3137cd

The lead scientist on the Zoe Covid study has said coronavirus infections in the UK have risen, as children return to schools and a subtype of the Omicron variant of coronavirus emerges.

Itís over

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« Reply #19099 on: January 27, 2022, 04:35:48 PM »
Olavo de Carvalho, the coronavirus-denying mentor of Jair Bolsonaro and Brazilís radical right, has died in the United States from Covid. He did a lot of harm as many Brazilians refused the vaccine on his advice, so he was responsible for many deaths. As Iíve said before though these Covid deniers, anti vax nut jobs are a dying breed.
another 74 year old with health problems dies , is water wet ?

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« Reply #19100 on: January 27, 2022, 08:36:44 PM »
Olavo de Carvalho, the coronavirus-denying mentor of Jair Bolsonaro and Brazilís radical right, has died in the United States from Covid. He did a lot of harm as many Brazilians refused the vaccine on his advice, so he was responsible for many deaths. As Iíve said before though these Covid deniers, anti vax nut jobs are a dying breed.
another 74 year old with health problems dies , is water wet ?

Most people who live to 74 have some health problems. They also can expect to live on through to 87 in the UK if theyíve made it to 74. Unfortunately many, many people in their 60s/70s with relatively minor health problems have had decades taken from their lives because of covid.

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« Reply #19101 on: January 27, 2022, 08:50:37 PM »
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/people/life-expectancy-fall-poorer-derry-women-2523682

Sorry but it's 72 for men in working class Derry city where I am from. But then again we aren't like anywhere in North in terms of deprivation bar some parts of Belfast.
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« Reply #19102 on: January 28, 2022, 12:19:27 AM »
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/people/life-expectancy-fall-poorer-derry-women-2523682

Sorry but it's 72 for men in working class Derry city where I am from. But then again we aren't like anywhere in North in terms of deprivation bar some parts of Belfast.

You're not understanding how it works.

Life expectancy at birth for men in Derry may well be 72, but life expectancy changes as you age.

For example, childhood mortality is a major depressing force on life expectancy. Think things like congenital anomalies that have life limiting impacts on children. But if you've made it to 74, then you're well passed these childhood dangers and can therefore expect a lifespan that is a bit longer than the average.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

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« Reply #19103 on: January 28, 2022, 08:14:18 AM »
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/people/life-expectancy-fall-poorer-derry-women-2523682

Sorry but it's 72 for men in working class Derry city where I am from. But then again we aren't like anywhere in North in terms of deprivation bar some parts of Belfast.

That makes hard reading. Whole host of factors nearly all linked to deprivation at play.

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« Reply #19104 on: January 28, 2022, 08:22:44 AM »
https://www.ft.com/content/d402d072-f19a-4f75-80c6-e6973c3137cd

The lead scientist on the Zoe Covid study has said coronavirus infections in the UK have risen, as children return to schools and a subtype of the Omicron variant of coronavirus emerges.

Itís over

https://www.ft.com/content/f681bdeb-f93a-4ec4-8356-77caf70f1c28

One risk is that Covid is not brought under control. The most urgent task is to make vaccination effective, which is a challenge to scientists, businesses and health systems. It is also crucial to gain and keep public trust.
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« Reply #19105 on: January 28, 2022, 09:48:33 AM »
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/people/life-expectancy-fall-poorer-derry-women-2523682

Sorry but it's 72 for men in working class Derry city where I am from. But then again we aren't like anywhere in North in terms of deprivation bar some parts of Belfast.

You're not understanding how it works.

Life expectancy at birth for men in Derry may well be 72, but life expectancy changes as you age.

For example, childhood mortality is a major depressing force on life expectancy. Think things like congenital anomalies that have life limiting impacts on children. But if you've made it to 74, then you're well passed these childhood dangers and can therefore expect a lifespan that is a bit longer than the average.

Oh I understand, all my grandparents were dead by the time they were 72

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« Reply #19106 on: January 28, 2022, 09:45:24 PM »
Transparent decision making is essential.

At least three of the many companies making covid-19 vaccines have past criminal and civil settlements costing them billions of dollars
The BMJ supports vaccination policies based on sound evidence.
The same applies to treatments for covid-19
Data must be available when trial results are announced, published, or used to justify regulatory decisions.
There is no place for wholesale exemptions from good practice during a pandemic.

Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o102

Data should be fully and immediately available for public scrutiny

Dr John Campbell - Data, we want it all
https://youtu.be/YDxkloJ-4kE

Pfizer has indicated that it will not begin entertaining requests for trial data until May 2025, (NCT04368728).

Moderna data may be available Ö with publication of the final study results in 2022
Datasets will be available upon request and subject to review once the trial is complete
Estimated primary completion date 27 October 2022 (NCT04470427).

Regeneronís phase III trial of monoclonal antibody therapy REGEN-COV
Participant level data will not be made available to others EMU)
Should the drug be approved, sharing will be considered
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« Reply #19107 on: January 28, 2022, 10:22:09 PM »
 Another quote from that BMJ article. I'm sure it will get shot down as an anti-vaccination article but it really isn't. Release the data.

   ' Pharmaceutical companies are reaping vast profits without adequate independent scrutiny of their scientific claims.33
           The purpose of regulators is not to dance to the tune of rich global corporations and enrich them further; it is to protect the health of their populations.
       We need complete data transparency for all studies, we need it in the public interest, and we need it now '.

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #19108 on: January 31, 2022, 12:38:21 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/government-e2-80-98set-for-u-turn-e2-80-99-on-mandatory-vaccines-for-health-workers/ar-AATje8m?ocid=uxbndlbing

Looks like the Mandatory covid 19 vaccinations for frontline nhs workers in England is being removed.

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« Reply #19109 on: January 31, 2022, 07:45:25 AM »
Glad to see that.