Murder of Aisling Murphy

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whitey

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Quote from: seafoid on November 11, 2023, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford
Free legal aid does what it says on the tin. Don't worry, Whitey, if you may not be fliúrseach.  If you commmiťed a heinous crime below in McHale Park you would be entitled to it.  Free legal aid is an important  part of a justice system.

Would I be entitled to be represented by the  best  and highest paid barrister in the country like this tr@mp was?

A regular Irish person would probably get someone who qualified last week

https://www.irishlegal.com/articles/top-criminal-legal-aid-lawyers-earn-over-eur690000

"Michael Bowman SC topped the table for senior counsel by a considerable margin with payments of €692,095 in 2021, with the next highest earner being Padraig Dwyer SC on €599,488"

seafoid

Quote from: whitey on November 11, 2023, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 11, 2023, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford
Free legal aid does what it says on the tin. Don't worry, Whitey, if you may not be fliúrseach.  If you commmiťed a heinous crime below in McHale Park you would be entitled to it.  Free legal aid is an important  part of a justice system.

Would I be entitled to be represented by the  best  and highest paid barrister in the country like this tr@mp was?

A regular Irish person would probably get someone who qualified last week

https://www.irishlegal.com/articles/top-criminal-legal-aid-lawyers-earn-over-eur690000

"Michael Bowman SC topped the table for senior counsel by a considerable margin with payments of €692,095 in 2021, with the next highest earner being Padraig Dwyer SC on €599,488"

If you committed a high profile crime that commanded national attention you would.

The issue of how much lawyers get paid is separate. It is a joke.

Before there was legal aid poor people got shafted by the legal system. A regular Irish sc**bag who murdered his wife in some gruesome manner would get the top legal brains too. Nobody can say that they do not get a fair trial. 

If you want to talk about a legal charade how about Molly Martens ?

LeoMc

Quote from: whitey on November 11, 2023, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 11, 2023, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford
Free legal aid does what it says on the tin. Don't worry, Whitey, if you may not be fliúrseach.  If you commmiťed a heinous crime below in McHale Park you would be entitled to it.  Free legal aid is an important  part of a justice system.

Would I be entitled to be represented by the  best  and highest paid barrister in the country like this tr@mp was?

A regular Irish person would probably get someone who qualified last week

https://www.irishlegal.com/articles/top-criminal-legal-aid-lawyers-earn-over-eur690000

"Michael Bowman SC topped the table for senior counsel by a considerable margin with payments of €692,095 in 2021, with the next highest earner being Padraig Dwyer SC on €599,488"


Legal aid fees are capped. He doesn't get to charge his private fee for public work.

In the North they went on strike as the fees are set too low.

trueblue1234

Quote from: whitey on November 11, 2023, 04:03:07 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 11, 2023, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford
Free legal aid does what it says on the tin. Don't worry, Whitey, if you may not be fliúrseach.  If you commmiťed a heinous crime below in McHale Park you would be entitled to it.  Free legal aid is an important  part of a justice system.

Would I be entitled to be represented by the  best  and highest paid barrister in the country like this tr@mp was?

A regular Irish person would probably get someone who qualified last week

https://www.irishlegal.com/articles/top-criminal-legal-aid-lawyers-earn-over-eur690000

"Michael Bowman SC topped the table for senior counsel by a considerable margin with payments of €692,095 in 2021, with the next highest earner being Padraig Dwyer SC on €599,488"


Is legal aid not capped at a standard rate?
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Milltown Row2

High profile case will attract a high profile lawyer...

Attention good or bad is good business
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

marty34

Good point, are these barristers pick or do they request a case?

How does it work?

Rossfan

Does a Barrister have to wait for a Solicitor to approach them?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

nrico2006

Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2023, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on November 10, 2023, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 
Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

Same in Lurgan. Some work in car washes but the majority are spongers
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2023, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2023, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on November 10, 2023, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 
Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

Same in Lurgan. Some work in car washes but the majority are spongers

Can illegal immigrants claim the dole?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2023, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2023, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2023, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on November 10, 2023, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 
Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

Same in Lurgan. Some work in car washes but the majority are spongers

Can illegal immigrants claim the dole?

You asked the wrong question

Can they claim "benefits"?  There's possibly other schemes they qualify for that wouldn't be under the strict definition of unemployment benefits

Then redefine "illegal immigrant" ?

Would a failed/fraudulent asylum seeker who's subject to a deportation order qualify for benefits?

seafoid

Questions about spongers and barristers. Can barristers be both ?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on November 11, 2023, 01:35:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2023, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2023, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2023, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on November 10, 2023, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 10, 2023, 05:28:59 PMNo one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 
Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

Same in Lurgan. Some work in car washes but the majority are spongers

Can illegal immigrants claim the dole?

You asked the wrong question

Can they claim "benefits"?  There's possibly other schemes they qualify for that wouldn't be under the strict definition of unemployment benefits

Then redefine "illegal immigrant" ?

Would a failed/fraudulent asylum seeker who's subject to a deportation order qualify for benefits?

I asked the correct question, they wouldn't be sponging if they can't claim the dole..

It's down to how people are processed, if the regulations are robust and carried out then that's ok..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Deerstalker

Due to the Slovaks & Romas being from EU countries they are home free when it comes to benefits, north and south

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Deerstalker on November 11, 2023, 06:57:21 PMDue to the Slovaks & Romas being from EU countries they are home free when it comes to benefits, north and south

Well that's ok then, being part of the EU meant that was the rules... you can opt out though....

You can live in Spain or France or Turkey
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea