Murder of Aisling Murphy

[Rossfan]

Capital punishment/State murder would certainly have saved the Brits a fortune on those Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Judith Ward etc.....

[Look-Up!]

Capital punishment/State murder would certainly have saved the Brits a fortune on those Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Judith Ward etc.....

Unfair trials and in that scenario I would certainly be in favour of severely strict punishments for corrupt police who manufacture evidence or testimony.

But you could just as easily list off countless cases where if punishment had been properly administered, no further innocent victims would have suffered or lost their lives because of the kid glove treatment some serious offenders/reoffenders have received.

You don't agree with capital punishment, fine, that's you right, but doesn't mean others are wrong or morally inferior.

[whitey]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

[Armagh18]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

Everyone should be entitled to a top defence. Yeah its sickening this **** will probably end up costing the tax payer hundreds of thousands if not more by the time his miserable life is over.

[gallsman]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

What did he do in Massachusetts?

[Rossfan]

Capital punishment/State murder would certainly have saved the Brits a fortune on those Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Judith Ward etc.....

Unfair trials and in that scenario I would certainly be in favour of severely strict punishments for corrupt police who manufacture evidence or testimony.

But you could just as easily list off countless cases where if punishment had been properly administered, no further innocent victims would have suffered or lost their lives because of the kid glove treatment some serious offenders/reoffenders have received.

You don't agree with capital punishment, fine, that's you right, but doesn't mean others are wrong or morally inferior.

You're putting up a lot of straw men there.

[clarshack]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

Nothing dangerous about having an opinion on where our common resources as a society go to. What is extremely dangerous to society though is having sick twisted homicidal filth walk amongst us, a lot of whom do unspeakable horrors, and then the notion that a lot of these can be reformed and released back to society when a period of time has elapsed where it feels acceptable to forget the crime or the poor victim.

No one mentioned anything against the right to fair trial but frivolous defence compounding the terrible suffering of a victim should carry very harsh penalties.

And sure, it would be nice to think we can reform criminals but all the ills of the world form a very big pie and there's not enough to go around. So sure, look after them if there's some left over but victims of crime are way way up my list of priorities.   

Everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Everyone. Better to give them a good defence so there can be no doubt and no appeal. f**kers like him should be tortured to death though.

I genuinely hope what happens in the whole prison showers thing is not a myth.

[Deerstalker]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 

[Armagh18]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 

Can't say that it's racist...

[Tony Baloney]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 

Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

[burdizzo]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 

Can't say that it's racist...

There are many things worse than racism, and murder is certainly one of them.

[Capt Pat]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

Nothing dangerous about having an opinion on where our common resources as a society go to. What is extremely dangerous to society though is having sick twisted homicidal filth walk amongst us, a lot of whom do unspeakable horrors, and then the notion that a lot of these can be reformed and released back to society when a period of time has elapsed where it feels acceptable to forget the crime or the poor victim.

No one mentioned anything against the right to fair trial but frivolous defence compounding the terrible suffering of a victim should carry very harsh penalties.

And sure, it would be nice to think we can reform criminals but all the ills of the world form a very big pie and there's not enough to go around. So sure, look after them if there's some left over but victims of crime are way way up my list of priorities.   

Everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Everyone. Better to give them a good defence so there can be no doubt and no appeal. f**kers like him should be tortured to death though.

I genuinely hope what happens in the whole prison showers thing is not a myth.

Isn't that what gets men like him into bother in the first place. I genuinely hope that sort of thing is not going on.

[Milltown Row2]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 

Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

I'd a West African woman in the other day at work.. she's working 6 days a week, 12 hour shifts.

I'd a glue bag local in soon after, never worked a day in his puff..

It's up to the rule makers, who the general public vote in (that's you and me) who decide how this pans out..

[seafoid]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

Free legal aid does what it says on the tin. Don't worry, Whitey, if you may not be fliúrseach.  If you commmiťed a heinous crime below in McHale Park you would be entitled to it.  Free legal aid is an important  part of a justice system.

[Armagh18]

No one is saying he's not entitled to a fair trial

People have a right to be upset that someone who came here, contributed nothing, milked the system for all it was worth, committed a henious crime And was then given (free) legal aid that most of us could never afford

The Roma/Slovakian have been some addition to Ireland. Where would we be without their brothels, that are then laundered through car washes?

Just here for the easy life sitting on their "disabled" hole unfortunately and anything illicit going, all the better. 

Does anyone know of any of them working in a tax-paying job? I see them hanging around Armagh all the time and the only ones that seem to work are in the car wash.

Couldn't care less about tax, long as they working tbh.