Murder of Aisling Murphy

[Deerstalker]

Sexual predator? We will never know

[From the Bunker]

Begs the question, why?

I had heard 2nd hand that she was a Teacher to one of his kids and she reported marks on that kid.

(Not comfortable putting that up here, so if Mods think not appropriate then remove)

[Saffrongael]

Begs the question, why?

I had heard 2nd hand that she was a Teacher to one of his kids and she reported marks on that kid.

(Not comfortable putting that up here, so if Mods think not appropriate then remove)

It was stated in court they were not known to each other in any way, im sure if she taught one of his kids it would have came out. He also seemed to be prowling for any women, she was just very unlucky & in the wrong place at the wrong time

[Wildweasel74]

It's sorta they convicted him, fought him guilty etc, maybe better leaving it at that going forward. And leave the why, to we never know..

[imtommygunn]

Unless you are of that mindset you'd never understand. No normal person could understand how someone could behave like that. Someone said earlier in this thread about the lies being terrible - the lies compounded things for the family but they're tame compared to the rest of it. You could never understand how a person could do this at all.

[Saffrongael]

Is there minimum terms in the south for a life sentence or what was does it work ?

[burdizzo]

Begs the question, why?

I had heard 2nd hand that she was a Teacher to one of his kids and she reported marks on that kid.

(Not comfortable putting that up here, so if Mods think not appropriate then remove)

Yes, I heard that as well - from a couple of very good sources (ie. teachers, and ones related to the poor girl). Seemingly they didn't want it getting out for fear other teachers would be too afraid to report suspected abuse cases in future.

[gallsman]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

[Bord na Mona man]

Begs the question, why?

I had heard 2nd hand that she was a Teacher to one of his kids and she reported marks on that kid.

(Not comfortable putting that up here, so if Mods think not appropriate then remove)

Yes, I heard that as well - from a couple of very good sources (ie. teachers, and ones related to the poor girl). Seemingly they didn't want it getting out for fear other teachers would be too afraid to report suspected abuse cases in future.

I don't see any substance to the rumour. She taught in a school that was outside of Tullamore where his children didn't attend.
It was accepted by all parties in the trial that they didn't know each other.
He was following and stalking random women on the day and Aisling just happened to be the unfortunate one.

[whitey]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

No...I think you need to look at yourself


A Romany Gypsy, who's never contributed a blessed thing to this country, murdered an innocent woman in cold blood.

He doesn't work.  He has five kids. He's on disability. He lives in a five bedroom house. All paid for by the taxpayer

You have the cheek to come on here and scold people who are upset that their taxes are used to provide him the best legal aid money can buy ?

Bowman is one of the best (and obviously best paid) Barristers in the country

[Armagh18]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

No...I think you need to look at yourself


A Romany Gypsy, who's never contributed a blessed thing to this country, murdered an innocent woman in cold blood.

He doesn't work.  He has five kids. He's on disability. He lives in a five bedroom house. All paid for by the taxpayer

You have the cheek to come on here and scold people who are upset that their taxes are used to provide him the best legal aid money can buy ?

Bowman is one of the best (and obviously best paid) Barristers in the country

As much as there seemed ti be little doubt in this trial and in a just world he'd have been killed slowly, everyone absolutely is entitled to a fair trial, which includes a good defence.  Anything else is a slippery slope

[seafoid]

At least Ashling's family got to bury her and have closure. Jojo Dollard's family have neither.

[gallsman]

First off, "best paid" is irrelevant. Legal aid is a set rate. He's not setting whatever fees he wants.

Secondly, fair access to the justice system is a key component of any functioning democracy, especially in a criminal trial where the state prosecutes the case. Surely you can understand that justice must be fair, yes?

He's a gypsy with five kids on benefits. Other than your well documented racism and detest for poor people, what does any of that matter? What do you actually want to see, him defend himself in a kangaroo court?

For the more bloodthirsty amongst you, who simply want someone locked up regardless of whether the cops got the right man, maybe perhaps you can understand that an incompetent defense would more likely give grounds for an appeal, prolonging the ordeal for the family. I remember when the Joanna Yates murder was discussed on here, several posters has swallowed the "creepy landlord" media hatchet job about Christopher Jefferies and decided at that point it was time to lock him up and throw away the key. The state should be seeking to ensure the defendant obtains the BEST defense possible and that that legal team does the BEST job it possibly can. It makes convictions more secure, strengthens the judicial system and rule of law. Do you not see or understand that?

As for "having the cheek", yes I absolutely do. Same way you have the cheek to sit across the pond and pontificate endlessly about things you haven't the slightest clue about.

[JohnDenver]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

No...I think you need to look at yourself


A Romany Gypsy, who's never contributed a blessed thing to this country, murdered an innocent woman in cold blood.

He doesn't work.  He has five kids. He's on disability. He lives in a five bedroom house. All paid for by the taxpayer

You have the cheek to come on here and scold people who are upset that their taxes are used to provide him the best legal aid money can buy ?

Bowman is one of the best (and obviously best paid) Barristers in the country

As much as there seemed ti be little doubt in this trial and in a just world he'd have been killed slowly, everyone absolutely is entitled to a fair trial, which includes a good defence.  Anything else is a slippery slope

Agreed. You have to do the thing right and a fair trial and defence is a basic entitlement to all.  The worst thing that could happen would be the case thrown out due to outside interference with attacks on Bowman or the likes.

My previous post was more questioning how difficult it would be to remain professional defending such a case with overwhelming evidence.

[Armagh18]

Justice served.

Couple of borderline dangerous comments about a defendant's right to a fair trial. "At taxpayers expense" etc. Need to have a hard look at yourselves.

No...I think you need to look at yourself


A Romany Gypsy, who's never contributed a blessed thing to this country, murdered an innocent woman in cold blood.

He doesn't work.  He has five kids. He's on disability. He lives in a five bedroom house. All paid for by the taxpayer

You have the cheek to come on here and scold people who are upset that their taxes are used to provide him the best legal aid money can buy ?

Bowman is one of the best (and obviously best paid) Barristers in the country

As much as there seemed ti be little doubt in this trial and in a just world he'd have been killed slowly, everyone absolutely is entitled to a fair trial, which includes a good defence.  Anything else is a slippery slope

Agreed. You have to do the thing right and a fair trial and defence is a basic entitlement to all.  The worst thing that could happen would be the case thrown out due to outside interference with attacks on Bowman or the likes.

My previous post was more questioning how difficult it would be to remain professional defending such a case with overwhelming evidence.

Yeah couldn't be easy but I suppose its part and parcel of the job. Any decent barrister I'm sure will have plenty of cases where they've known the defendant is guilty.

Just have to be professional I suppose