Man Utd Thread:

[Maroon Manc]

First point of call is getting back into the CL which is going to be very difficult, The top 2 are miles ahead and Spurs will invest heavily this summer and will have Conte from the start. Depends on how much Tuchel gets to spend at Chelsea, their losing 2 good centre half's and Silva is nearly 38.

No quick fix here, he's clearly going to be left with players he doesn't want and can't get rid of this summer and likely will be only be able to bring in 4 or 5 players this summer. There are 8 or 9 fringe players who could likely raise a good sum this summer if they choose to get rid of them but United for the best part of a decade seem intent on loaning players who will never be good enough. Football is big business and City, Liverpool & Chelsea have been able to keep spending big partly because of the fees they generate when selling something which United are appalling at.

Mason Greenwood will be another conundrum for the club if he's not charged, there's no chance the Glazers will release him.

United fanbase is patient as long as they are entertained and can see progress, since Fergie has left the football has been dire for about 90% of the time; Hoping that changes.

Martial on his way back from Spain. Another shitebag we'll never be shot of.

Him, Henderson, Wan Bissaka and Bailly all going - Unfortunately Rashford looks like he's staying though

Who is going to buy Wan Bissaka? Going to be sold at a huge loss. Martial's woeful time in Spain will put a lot of teams off. Henderson will probably go to a decent club and be a solid player. Rashford probably just about has enough credit in the bank to get another chance under a new manager although if he doesn't pull his head out of his arse he'll be out the door too.

Wan Bissaka will have a good few suitors, he had plenty of good games in his first 2 seasons but like everyone else this season he was appalling and clearly isn't technically proficient enough for a manager like Ten Hag; Wages will be a big issue although like everyone else at OT his will be affected by failing to make the CL so might make it easier to shift.

Martial is on huge money, no club will get near matching them so suspect he'll take a wage cut to leave. I just don't see Ten Hag wanting him given his lack of mentality, lots of ability but not prepared to work hard enough.

Ten Hag likely going to have to get a tune out of a good few players he doesn't want for probably the next 2 seasons as long as he's still in the job. I'd like to think there's a few players at the club who's future looks uncertain now but he can improve which is what top coaches like Klopp do.

There's a couple of really talented youngster in Mejbri & Garnacho who both look to have some real quality, lets hope there talent can be harnessed.

[Armagh18]

First point of call is getting back into the CL which is going to be very difficult, The top 2 are miles ahead and Spurs will invest heavily this summer and will have Conte from the start. Depends on how much Tuchel gets to spend at Chelsea, their losing 2 good centre half's and Silva is nearly 38.

No quick fix here, he's clearly going to be left with players he doesn't want and can't get rid of this summer and likely will be only be able to bring in 4 or 5 players this summer. There are 8 or 9 fringe players who could likely raise a good sum this summer if they choose to get rid of them but United for the best part of a decade seem intent on loaning players who will never be good enough. Football is big business and City, Liverpool & Chelsea have been able to keep spending big partly because of the fees they generate when selling something which United are appalling at.

Mason Greenwood will be another conundrum for the club if he's not charged, there's no chance the Glazers will release him.

United fanbase is patient as long as they are entertained and can see progress, since Fergie has left the football has been dire for about 90% of the time; Hoping that changes.

Martial on his way back from Spain. Another shitebag we'll never be shot of.

Him, Henderson, Wan Bissaka and Bailly all going - Unfortunately Rashford looks like he's staying though

Who is going to buy Wan Bissaka? Going to be sold at a huge loss. Martial's woeful time in Spain will put a lot of teams off. Henderson will probably go to a decent club and be a solid player. Rashford probably just about has enough credit in the bank to get another chance under a new manager although if he doesn't pull his head out of his arse he'll be out the door too.

Wan Bissaka will have a good few suitors, he had plenty of good games in his first 2 seasons but like everyone else this season he was appalling and clearly isn't technically proficient enough for a manager like Ten Hag; Wages will be a big issue although like everyone else at OT his will be affected by failing to make the CL so might make it easier to shift.

Martial is on huge money, no club will get near matching them so suspect he'll take a wage cut to leave. I just don't see Ten Hag wanting him given his lack of mentality, lots of ability but not prepared to work hard enough.

Ten Hag likely going to have to get a tune out of a good few players he doesn't want for probably the next 2 seasons as long as he's still in the job. I'd like to think there's a few players at the club who's future looks uncertain now but he can improve which is what top coaches like Klopp do.

There's a couple of really talented youngster in Mejbri & Garnacho who both look to have some real quality, lets hope there talent can be harnessed.

Hopefully we see a few players who have the ability- thinking the likes of Shaw, Rashford, Bruno and even Maguire turn the thing around and get back to their best under a new manager. Van De Beek will obviously feature loads this year so heres hoping Ten Hag can get the best out of him.

[laoislad]

Would Martial be worth more or less than a second hand Mondeo these days? 

[Mourne Red]

First point of call is getting back into the CL which is going to be very difficult, The top 2 are miles ahead and Spurs will invest heavily this summer and will have Conte from the start. Depends on how much Tuchel gets to spend at Chelsea, their losing 2 good centre half's and Silva is nearly 38.

No quick fix here, he's clearly going to be left with players he doesn't want and can't get rid of this summer and likely will be only be able to bring in 4 or 5 players this summer. There are 8 or 9 fringe players who could likely raise a good sum this summer if they choose to get rid of them but United for the best part of a decade seem intent on loaning players who will never be good enough. Football is big business and City, Liverpool & Chelsea have been able to keep spending big partly because of the fees they generate when selling something which United are appalling at.

Mason Greenwood will be another conundrum for the club if he's not charged, there's no chance the Glazers will release him.

United fanbase is patient as long as they are entertained and can see progress, since Fergie has left the football has been dire for about 90% of the time; Hoping that changes.

Martial on his way back from Spain. Another shitebag we'll never be shot of.

Him, Henderson, Wan Bissaka and Bailly all going - Unfortunately Rashford looks like he's staying though

Who is going to buy Wan Bissaka? Going to be sold at a huge loss. Martial's woeful time in Spain will put a lot of teams off. Henderson will probably go to a decent club and be a solid player. Rashford probably just about has enough credit in the bank to get another chance under a new manager although if he doesn't pull his head out of his arse he'll be out the door too.

Wan Bissaka will have a good few suitors, he had plenty of good games in his first 2 seasons but like everyone else this season he was appalling and clearly isn't technically proficient enough for a manager like Ten Hag; Wages will be a big issue although like everyone else at OT his will be affected by failing to make the CL so might make it easier to shift.

Martial is on huge money, no club will get near matching them so suspect he'll take a wage cut to leave. I just don't see Ten Hag wanting him given his lack of mentality, lots of ability but not prepared to work hard enough.

Ten Hag likely going to have to get a tune out of a good few players he doesn't want for probably the next 2 seasons as long as he's still in the job. I'd like to think there's a few players at the club who's future looks uncertain now but he can improve which is what top coaches like Klopp do.

There's a couple of really talented youngster in Mejbri & Garnacho who both look to have some real quality, lets hope there talent can be harnessed.

Hopefully we see a few players who have the ability- thinking the likes of Shaw, Rashford, Bruno and even Maguire turn the thing around and get back to their best under a new manager. Van De Beek will obviously feature loads this year so heres hoping Ten Hag can get the best out of him.

Wan Bissaka going back to Palace on loan with obligation too buy - Martial looking like going to Italy, Inter keen on him but there was talk we just pay up his wages to get rid of him. Henderson is going to Newcastle deal near done.

As for Rashford he's no credit in the bank too me, he's been terrible for 18 months and got told by senior figures at the club to focus on football instead of his outside works due to his poor form but he refused. He's been one of the leakers along with Grant, Henderson and Lingard and for me and a lot of others would love to get the £50m for and invest that in midfield.

Garnacho would be great to see get a run of games along with Hannibal and Garner be great to see how he gets on after being on loan at Forest

[JPGJOHNNYG]

First point of call is getting back into the CL which is going to be very difficult, The top 2 are miles ahead and Spurs will invest heavily this summer and will have Conte from the start. Depends on how much Tuchel gets to spend at Chelsea, their losing 2 good centre half's and Silva is nearly 38.

No quick fix here, he's clearly going to be left with players he doesn't want and can't get rid of this summer and likely will be only be able to bring in 4 or 5 players this summer. There are 8 or 9 fringe players who could likely raise a good sum this summer if they choose to get rid of them but United for the best part of a decade seem intent on loaning players who will never be good enough. Football is big business and City, Liverpool & Chelsea have been able to keep spending big partly because of the fees they generate when selling something which United are appalling at.

Mason Greenwood will be another conundrum for the club if he's not charged, there's no chance the Glazers will release him.

United fanbase is patient as long as they are entertained and can see progress, since Fergie has left the football has been dire for about 90% of the time; Hoping that changes.

Martial on his way back from Spain. Another shitebag we'll never be shot of.

Him, Henderson, Wan Bissaka and Bailly all going - Unfortunately Rashford looks like he's staying though

Who is going to buy Wan Bissaka? Going to be sold at a huge loss. Martial's woeful time in Spain will put a lot of teams off. Henderson will probably go to a decent club and be a solid player. Rashford probably just about has enough credit in the bank to get another chance under a new manager although if he doesn't pull his head out of his arse he'll be out the door too.

Wan Bissaka will have a good few suitors, he had plenty of good games in his first 2 seasons but like everyone else this season he was appalling and clearly isn't technically proficient enough for a manager like Ten Hag; Wages will be a big issue although like everyone else at OT his will be affected by failing to make the CL so might make it easier to shift.

Martial is on huge money, no club will get near matching them so suspect he'll take a wage cut to leave. I just don't see Ten Hag wanting him given his lack of mentality, lots of ability but not prepared to work hard enough.

Ten Hag likely going to have to get a tune out of a good few players he doesn't want for probably the next 2 seasons as long as he's still in the job. I'd like to think there's a few players at the club who's future looks uncertain now but he can improve which is what top coaches like Klopp do.

There's a couple of really talented youngster in Mejbri & Garnacho who both look to have some real quality, lets hope there talent can be harnessed.

Hopefully we see a few players who have the ability- thinking the likes of Shaw, Rashford, Bruno and even Maguire turn the thing around and get back to their best under a new manager. Van De Beek will obviously feature loads this year so heres hoping Ten Hag can get the best out of him.

Wan Bissaka going back to Palace on loan with obligation too buy - Martial looking like going to Italy, Inter keen on him but there was talk we just pay up his wages to get rid of him. Henderson is going to Newcastle deal near done.

As for Rashford he's no credit in the bank too me, he's been terrible for 18 months and got told by senior figures at the club to focus on football instead of his outside works due to his poor form but he refused. He's been one of the leakers along with Grant, Henderson and Lingard and for me and a lot of others would love to get the £50m for and invest that in midfield.

Garnacho would be great to see get a run of games along with Hannibal and Garner be great to see how he gets on after being on loan at Forest

Rashford needs to go ffs, that's exactly whats wrong with utd - clinging onto wasters yrs too long hoping by some miracle they may change their ways. We were talking about Pogba getting the boot when Mourinho was in charge and yet he is still there stinking the place out.
I think the big secret about Rashford is he was never very good but did a job but now his hunger has gone he is next to useless, to think idiots were talking about 150million move to Real Madrid not that long ago 

[Armamike]

The elephant in the room is Ronaldo.  The team was limited but looked a much better unit then Ronaldo arrives and the whole thing goes tits up.  A coincidence?  He obviously still scores goals but at what cost was his signing to the team dynamic and spirit?

[Milltown Row2]

The elephant in the room is Ronaldo.  The team was limited but looked a much better unit then Ronaldo arrives and the whole thing goes tits up.  A coincidence?  He obviously still scores goals but at what cost was his signing to the team dynamic and spirit?

I'd love to know how he's killed the dressing room and the performances of the players from the season before

[Maroon Manc]

United have imploded several times since Fergie has left without Ronaldo, if you'd have asked me a few months ago I'd have happily got rid of Ronaldo but he's been superb in recent months. United can't get rid of everyone and there's enough question marks around the likes of Rashford. Sounds like United are looking for a new centre forward although whether Ronaldo is going to put off a potential target is anyones guess.

Carragher has got something in his head about Ronaldo and refuses to budge, comparing it to Klopp getting rid of Benteke is just idiotic.

Now Carragher states United need to get rid of Rashford, he along with Neville have quickly turned into a pair of clowns.

[Armagh18]

United have imploded several times since Fergie has left without Ronaldo, if you'd have asked me a few months ago I'd have happily got rid of Ronaldo but he's been superb in recent months. United can't get rid of everyone and there's enough question marks around the likes of Rashford. Sounds like United are looking for a new centre forward although whether Ronaldo is going to put off a potential target is anyones guess.

Carragher has got something in his head about Ronaldo and refuses to budge, comparing it to Klopp getting rid of Benteke is just idiotic.

Ronaldo could still play to the left of a new striker. He's the least of Uniteds worries and the one player I would be annoyed if he left.

[Hound]

United have imploded several times since Fergie has left without Ronaldo, if you'd have asked me a few months ago I'd have happily got rid of Ronaldo but he's been superb in recent months. United can't get rid of everyone and there's enough question marks around the likes of Rashford. Sounds like United are looking for a new centre forward although whether Ronaldo is going to put off a potential target is anyones guess.

Carragher has got something in his head about Ronaldo and refuses to budge, comparing it to Klopp getting rid of Benteke is just idiotic.

Now Carragher states United need to get rid of Rashford, he along with Neville have quickly turned into a pair of clowns.

Comparing Ronaldo to Benteke is certainly idiotic!
Even now, Palace would be far better having Fat Ronaldo off the bench than fat Benteke.

I think if Real Madrid came in with a 120m bid for Rashford, they would be right to get rid (no link I'm aware of, but there was talk PSG were eyeing him up if they lost mbappe). There could also be a case that Rashford would be better off at a new club with a fresh start. What should have been done with him was to send him to Spurs games to watch only Son. And to Liverpool games to watch only Salah. The two highest scorers in the league and just look at their work rate compared to yours. So cop yourself on.

What's the latest with Greenwood's case? Someone mentioned no charges a possibility- is that because the woman is not pressing or the cops?

[Armagh18]

United have imploded several times since Fergie has left without Ronaldo, if you'd have asked me a few months ago I'd have happily got rid of Ronaldo but he's been superb in recent months. United can't get rid of everyone and there's enough question marks around the likes of Rashford. Sounds like United are looking for a new centre forward although whether Ronaldo is going to put off a potential target is anyones guess.

Carragher has got something in his head about Ronaldo and refuses to budge, comparing it to Klopp getting rid of Benteke is just idiotic.

Now Carragher states United need to get rid of Rashford, he along with Neville have quickly turned into a pair of clowns.

Comparing Ronaldo to Benteke is certainly idiotic!
Even now, Palace would be far better having Fat Ronaldo off the bench than fat Benteke.

I think if Real Madrid came in with a 120m bid for Rashford, they would be right to get rid (no link I'm aware of, but there was talk PSG were eyeing him up if they lost mbappe). There could also be a case that Rashford would be better off at a new club with a fresh start. What should have been done with him was to send him to Spurs games to watch only Son. And to Liverpool games to watch only Salah. The two highest scorers in the league and just look at their work rate compared to yours. So cop yourself on.

What's the latest with Greenwood's case? Someone mentioned no charges a possibility- is that because the woman is not pressing or the cops?

Yeah agree re Rashford. Who knows what'll happen with Greenwood. You'd imagine if he was going to be charged he would have been by now. Will be some outrage if he togs out for United again

[snoopdog]

The elephant in the room is Ronaldo.  The team was limited but looked a much better unit then Ronaldo arrives and the whole thing goes tits up.  A coincidence?  He obviously still scores goals but at what cost was his signing to the team dynamic and spirit?

Total bollox. Yeah Ronaldos the problem. The ultimate professional surrounded by ar5eholes yet the best player off the last decade is the issue. Jesus wept.

[snoopdog]

The elephant in the room is Ronaldo.  The team was limited but looked a much better unit then Ronaldo arrives and the whole thing goes tits up.  A coincidence?  He obviously still scores goals but at what cost was his signing to the team dynamic and spirit?

Total bollox. Yeah Ronaldos the problem. The ultimate professional surrounded by ar5eholes yet the best player off the last decade is the issue. Jesus wept.

Sorry an injustice to Ronaldo. Best player for the last 15 years

[Armamike]

The elephant in the room is Ronaldo.  The team was limited but looked a much better unit then Ronaldo arrives and the whole thing goes tits up.  A coincidence?  He obviously still scores goals but at what cost was his signing to the team dynamic and spirit?

Total bollox. Yeah Ronaldos the problem. The ultimate professional surrounded by ar5eholes yet the best player off the last decade is the issue. Jesus wept.

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Jesus wept indeed. Its a discussion board and we all can have views. Because my tuppence worth is different to your insight doesn't make it bollix.

[Cunny Funt]

The elephant in the room is Ronaldo.  The team was limited but looked a much better unit then Ronaldo arrives and the whole thing goes tits up.  A coincidence?  He obviously still scores goals but at what cost was his signing to the team dynamic and spirit?

Total bollox. Yeah Ronaldos the problem. The ultimate professional surrounded by ar5eholes yet the best player off the last decade is the issue. Jesus wept.

Anyone that forms the view that Ronaldo is or was the problem wasn't paying much attention to the latter stages of last season whereby this decline began. Outside of Ronaldo, Degea what players can you say gave 100% effort once Rangnick arrived until his last game game Palace? Its going to take 2 or 3 transfer windows but the clear out needs to begin with at least half a dozen players shipped out and replaced by players that won't down the tools so easily this summer.