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But the reality is Budweiser i was told Brennan refused to do the weight training Kearns set them. If a player decides to refuse to do the training than the manager has no choice. No-one says they have to live like amateur monks - but all club players at senior level do weight training and you have no chance at county level without it.
The reality is Laois players in particular don't seem to have any concept of the notion that you can't go on the piss 1-2 days before a match. Like i said club players wouldn't do it. You can have a social life- but it has to be at the right times especially at county level- you can out and simply not drink and that solves a lot of the problems. Nobody is forcing them to play at county level if he doesn't want to do the training he should be told to piss off- it's a personal training every player makes what they want to with the spare time in their lives and if he doesn't want to do it Laois are better off without him- on the evidence of last Sunday he isn't irreplaceable.

terrible about ollie- just to mi-louth about joe-that's all a smokescreen-i've ruled galway out already the reality is the galway county board caused this mess by allowing a young man to be stamped in the face and allowing the perpretrator away with it.

because you have as many new guys as we have.
casey hasn't played any football. etc.
a new full back
a 19 year old kicking frees-
could all go swimmingly- could all go down the pan. i think with the 4 below players we'd win. No problem with connolly and brennan they deserve to start but i 'd prefer a few more experienced men around them.

cullen-whelan-quinn-cahill that's as many as you're misssing. so don't give us that load of b*****.

very disappointed with the selection-dublin could make sure they win that game by picking the right team considering some of the players tyrone are missing- they've now given tyrone a right good chance. i thought we wanted to make sure of the playoffs? I think it's a mistake leaving cullen and quinn out.

surely a tyrone team without o neill-gormley-mc guigan- and jordan hasn't  a bloody prayer.

who knows maybe he has a below par Irish pub as well
by the way i've attended AIL-ML-HEC and international rugby games regularly over the years so i think that entitles me to an opinion.

I actually thought evil genius was genuine- i didn't agree with him but i thought he was genuine. Quite obviously i was wrong.- this is obviously some sort of  a political trip that he gets his kicks out of. Wonder what he thinks of Fanning's article- which i think would be closer to the truth as regards Ulster rugby fans.

Kerry are also missing a site of players based on that teamsheet.

"And by looking at the photos, the people immediately next to Bamford included not only the middle-aged dark-haired woman (and husband?), but also on his left, a young blonde girl (in her 20's?), cropped from some photos. These simply do not look to be the sort who would tolerate prolonged baiting of the sort claimed by TB."

It gets better - keep them coming- i had to read the above a couple of times just to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving. Like are you having a laugh? Hilarious.

even better on newstalk is Val gnevin- an absolute comedy show for dublin's nfl games- i remember one game against fermanagh last year had me in fits of laughter. (mind you i needed something considering the result)

Don't know what you're trying to prove Evil Genius- it's hardly breaking news that Ulster rugby fans defend Ulster rugby fans. As far as I can see we still have two diametrically opposite views and are still no nearer to finding out what really happenned.

just setanta.

The below is another alleged version of the events that transpired. Just posting it to prove ther eis more thna one account out there. This appeared on the Ulster rugby website- could be taking the piss but so could many of the ulster fans.




I had the unfortunate experience of witnessing the ugly scenes at the Ulster game in Toulouse with my own eyes. I have to say that after reading the posts here there seems to be a lot of bulls**tters, firstly Brennan is not arrested, secondly the guys jaw is not broken, thirdly the Ulster fans behaved in a most obnoxious manner that I have never EVER scene at a match. It was very acidic comments that were full of vitrolic anger for some reason (considering Brennan played host for the weekend in his bar this seems bizarre).

The fella who got punched sang at Brennan 'Your mother is a whore' repeatedly, now I dont know about you but that is pretty appaling and some of the Ulster fans should have told him to shut up and did say at the top of my voice 'God is this a Rugby game or a football game', I didnt want to intervene because firstly I am not an Ulster fan and secondly it would have been a pain in the ar$e to get over to where he was sitting.

Anyway I do not excuse Brennans behaviour in fact I condem it but the way the fans acted was appailing and I think Ulster rugby must hang its head in shame once again especially since the London Irish game where it is common knowledge racist remarks were made.

With regards to the Alfie situation, I am not sure but I heard that bigotted remarks were aimed at him and that he had told a few people he would never et anyone get away with what was said (what was said I do not know to be honest).

Anyway I thought I would give the real version oof what happened, it is a shame because I always enjoyed a game up in Ravenhill but I will think twice about coming over for a game now,

Many thanks for reading this,

Toulouse Rugby also issued a statement on Monday, defending Brennan and claiming that he acted in response to "repeated provocation" by Ulster supporters.

The French club claimed that fans had made repeated references to the forward's mother and added that "such supporters have no place in any sporting arena and even less so in rugby".

The statement also alleged that Brennan had been "sprinkled with beer" before punching the Ulster fan and described the former Irish international as "a generous player who always respects his opponents and their supporters".

They described Brennan's actions as "inexcusable but humanly understandable" and said they would ask the ERC to launch an investigation into the behaviour of some of the Ulster supporters.

I suppose they are liars too and all Ulster rugby fans are as pure as snow. Two very differing accounts which suggests to me we'll never find out.

often favour playing with the wind- allows you to set the agenda- a lot harder to peg a team back especially if you have a lead before the turnaround. A good defensive effort in the first 15 of the second half can make the other team very edgy.