are any of you part of these groups? there was a group in Newcastle last weekend saying a Rosary in the middle of the town
This belongs in the Tyrone thread surely???
Weirdos. Up there with Knights of Columbanus
Quote from: screenexile on May 18, 2022, 02:38:26 PM
This belongs in the Tyrone thread surely???
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNGogDLXIAYO8G1?format=jpg&name=large)
I'm not what's you'd call up to date with the bible. But I'm pretty sure that it doesn't look well upon unnecessarily public praying.
Quote from: general_lee on May 18, 2022, 02:42:37 PM
Weirdos. Up there with Knights of Columbanus
They do a lot of charitable work in communitys
Quote from: thewobbler on May 18, 2022, 02:54:37 PM
I'm not what's you'd call up to date with the bible. But I'm pretty sure that it doesn't look well upon unnecessarily public praying.
I'm a bit out of the loop with religious stuff - when did this become a thing?
The photo above is Magherafelt. That's what has Derry on a run. Time the rest of ye get on your knees ;D
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 18, 2022, 02:38:26 PM
This belongs in the Tyrone thread surely???
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNGogDLXIAYO8G1?format=jpg&name=large)
That picture is of The Diamond in Magherafelt. When you look on Google Maps where they are facing, it is a Union Jack flying from a lamp post.
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 18, 2022, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 18, 2022, 02:38:26 PM
This belongs in the Tyrone thread surely???
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNGogDLXIAYO8G1?format=jpg&name=large)
That picture is of The Diamond in Magherafelt. When you look on Google Maps where they are facing, it is a Union Jack flying from a lamp post.
Has a big whiff of "
look at me" about it.
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on May 18, 2022, 03:02:57 PM
The photo above is Magherafelt. That's what has Derry on a run. Time the rest of ye get on your knees ;D
;D
What are they praying for?
And why are they arranged in a series of neat single file lines?
Quote from: J70 on May 18, 2022, 04:00:14 PM
What are they praying for?
And why are they arranged in a series of neat single file lines?
Praying that they won't get COVID.
Socially distancing just incase they get COVID whilst praying.
Quote from: balladmaker on May 18, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 18, 2022, 04:00:14 PM
What are they praying for?
And why are they arranged in a series of neat single file lines?
Praying that they won't get COVID.
Socially distancing just incase they get COVID whilst praying.
You mean "the COVID".
Maybe they are praying for women to be made priests?
I believe the right calls this sort of thing "virtue signalling."
Praying for Louth to win an AI in 3 years.....the supreme leader has set them to task....
Not a Derry man among them Gabe they're all Loughshore men sure St Pius and the Convent were infiltrated by Tyrone wans for decades as you well know!!
Isn't praying in public banned in NI
Quote from: Gmac on May 18, 2022, 11:10:52 PM
Isn't praying in public banned in NI
There has to be a protocol about it!
have those groups not been infiltrated by the far right and the mcconnel from donegal guy.
Quote from: Eire90 on May 19, 2022, 12:05:07 AM
have those groups not been infiltrated by the far right and the mcconnel from donegal guy.
I think you're right. While a lot of those involved are well meaning, there is a strong right wing anti vaccine, pro life influence
Quote from: Eire90 on May 19, 2022, 12:05:07 AM
have those groups not been infiltrated by the far right and the mcconnel from donegal guy.
Our family rosary used to be infiltrated by the far left - so we all left the Hail Holy Queen to herself.
The only times I've been involved in rosaries is at cemetery Sundays, just repeating the same prayer over and over. My uncle is going to one of those pilgrimages to Bosnia next week, another odd thing.
The Rosary is faster as Gaeilge.
Quote from: seafoid on May 19, 2022, 08:42:33 PM
The Rosary is faster as Gaeilge.
You haven't heard my da going over the first part of the Hail Mary, kneeling into a chair, just a blurr,
"Hail Mary, blah blah... Jesus"
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Are Aontú involed in these public rosary meetings?
Is it men only who are there?
Quote from: marty34 on May 20, 2022, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Are Aontú involed in these public rosary meetings?
Is it men only who are there?
Dont know much about it Marty, I thought by the thread title it was men only. Aontu have some poor candidates in the south, dont know if they attend these rosaries or not.
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
If its right for people to question vaccines, moon landings and the roundness of earth etc it equally my right to laugh at them and call them arseholes. People on SM calling you a w**ker isn't a left wing media conspiracy.
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 20, 2022, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
If its right for people to question vaccines, moon landings and the roundness of earth etc it equally my right to laugh at them and call them arseholes. People on SM calling you a w**ker isn't a left wing media conspiracy.
That's a whole load of nothing, much like what's between your ears.
i here some say sunday mass in ireland was just one big virtue signal people wanting others to see how much money they were handing over to the priest
Quote from: Eire90 on May 20, 2022, 11:29:38 AM
i here some say sunday mass in ireland was just one big virtue signal people wanting others to see how much money they were handing over to the priest
Well covid did for that. DD all the rave now.
whats dd
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 20, 2022, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
If its right for people to question vaccines, moon landings and the roundness of earth etc it equally my right to laugh at them and call them arseholes. People on SM calling you a w**ker isn't a left wing media conspiracy.
You're making his point for him.... Christ.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 20, 2022, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 20, 2022, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
If its right for people to question vaccines, moon landings and the roundness of earth etc it equally my right to laugh at them and call them arseholes. People on SM calling you a w**ker isn't a left wing media conspiracy.
You're making his point for him.... Christ.
But you think it's ok for people on sm to tell others that they shouldn't get married? Or that people are sheeple for following covid regulations?
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AMwith some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Still pushing this shite I see.
Quote from: gallsman on May 20, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AMwith some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Still pushing this shite I see.
Still the biggest scooby on the board I see. Intolerant far left, I'm right, your wrong.
If you were an icecream, you'd have yourself licked to death by now.
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 02:09:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 20, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AMwith some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Still pushing this shite I see.
Still the biggest scooby on the board I see. Intolerant far left, I'm right, your wrong.
If you were an icecream, you'd have yourself licked to death by now.
Whatever happened to Iceman, he'd have loved this thread.. It was your icecream bit that reminded me lol
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 02:09:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 20, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AMwith some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Still pushing this shite I see.
Still the biggest scooby on the board I see. Intolerant far left, I'm right, your wrong.
If you were an icecream, you'd have yourself licked to death by now.
"Intolerant". Laughably soft.
Enjoy your "I'm so hard done by, I suffer so much for my 'straight talking' ways" echo chamber. John McGuirk isn't the Messiah. He's not even a very naughty boy. He's just another incel mouthpiece with a microphone.
"echo chamber" straight from the antifa / far left dictionary. The rest of your post is the usual inane drivel.
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 03:09:59 PM
"echo chamber" straight from the antifa / far left dictionary. The rest of your post is the usual inane drivel.
These are the guys who disrupted the Aisling Murphy vigil? Also have links to the far right and loyalists?
https://www.mensrosaryireland.com/
Ros, Longford, Laythrum, Cavan and Monaghan escaped them so far.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on May 20, 2022, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 03:09:59 PM
"echo chamber" straight from the antifa / far left dictionary. The rest of your post is the usual inane drivel.
These are the guys who disrupted the Aisling Murphy vigil? Also have links to the far right and loyalists?
On the first point pretty sure your right, which is disgusting. Think they have some right wing connection, although some may be involved for good reasons, would doubt loyalists would be into the rosary in fairness. ;D
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
When did this happen?
A week after Bill Gates and George Soros invented the Corona Virus ;D
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 03:09:59 PM
"echo chamber" straight from the antifa / far left dictionary. The rest of your post is the usual inane drivel.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Antifa! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Absolutely incredible scenes. It's an echo chamber because very few people give the slightest toss about what you and your mates have to say. You rant and rave about censorship and free speech, blind to the fact that nobody is stopping you.
The fact the likes of McGuirk and Justin Barrett have little audience isn't anything to do with censorship or some deep state conspiracy or concerted effort from the renowned lefties in the FF/FG coalition or the Tory party.. It's that they're dickheads who an overwhelming majority of the population have no interest in listening to.
Meanwhile red states keep on banning books. Remember, every conservative accusation is a confession.
Left wing media and political system was enough for me :o
They don't seem to be promoting real inclusiveness at all
Why don't they let the women join in ???
They'll hardly get any grants with exclusionary carry on like that
Who is advising them ?
Surly they need to get with the times , allow women to take part and possibly get an app going that will allow them to rosary away to their hearts content without blocking up the street
Microsoft rosary or the like
You unmute when it's your turn to offer up the sorrowful mystery of Mary and the wee ass
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Give me even just one media source which is biased to the left. In the UK almost all newspapers are completely and totally right wing and it ranges from extreme like the mail, the scum and the telegraph, to just very right wing like the times. Tv coverage is also generally right wing like the bbc which toes the government line and lets them off the hook time and time again. The only channel which is remotely left wing is channel 4 and mad nad is going to change their ownership because they have the temerity to criticise this corrupt tory government. As for Aontu they appeal to a small fringe element of fundamentalists and their support will always be restricted to that element.
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:26:44 AM
Quote from: Rudi on May 20, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
I think prayer is a private thing. I don't like the idea of a collection of people taking over a square in a public area to say the rosary. Some people have innocent purposes, others more sinister.
Rosary should be confined to churches, religious centers & what people do on their own homes as consenting adults is their business.
Personally I say a decade of the rosary every morning on the way to work, my wife & kids wouldn't be aware of this. I got this from my mother, who took huge stock in prayer, but would never force it own any of her kids.
This public rosary for some appears to be a response to the muzzling of people with conservative views by a left wing media & political system. It should be ok for people to question vaccine passports, abortion, same sex marriage without been called bigots, conspiracy theorists etc. This constant filtering of people with conservative/ center right views has pushed some people to the margins.
I'm feed up of the constant media driven left is good, right is baad. Freedom of speech is great as long as you agree with the lefties. You won't get me saying the rosary in a public place all the same, but if a right leaning party with plenty of decent, courageous candidates like Peadar Tobin with some (not all) Gript media principles, I'm on it.
Give me even just one media source which is biased to the left. In the UK almost all newspapers are completely and totally right wing and it ranges from extreme like the mail, the scum and the telegraph, to just very right wing like the times. Tv coverage is also generally right wing like the bbc which toes the government line and lets them off the hook time and time again. The only channel which is remotely left wing is channel 4 and mad nad is going to change their ownership because they have the temerity to criticise this corrupt tory government. As for Aontu they appeal to a small fringe element of fundamentalists and their support will always be restricted to that element.
Thr Guardian. The Observer, The Independant, The Daily Mirror, Channel 4, Sunday Mirror....
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
The world, and consequently a few on this board, doesn't know it's right from it's left these days.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
They're called conservatives for a reason
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 22, 2022, 09:55:23 AM
The world, and consequently a few on this board, doesn't know it's right from it's left these days.
Who are the few that dont know on this board?
Define leff & right.
So what's the craic with this thread now? From buck ejjits kneeling in the street and saying the rosary till political views! Christ
Well there was a thread about the rosary and one particular individual decided to send it off on a tangent about free speech and censorship etc
These lads are free to pray where they want to and I'm not aware if anyone trying to censor them.
Mind you instead of blocking public space they could use any of the 5 or 6,000 Catholic Churches around the Country.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2022, 02:05:15 PM
These lads are free to pray where they want to and I'm not aware if anyone trying to censor them.
Mind you instead of blocking public space they could use any of the 5 or 6,000 Catholic Churches around the Country.
Fair enough, but in all truthfulness did they really cause an immense amount of disruption to the public?
Kilkeel was for all intents and purposes closed of yesterday evening for an Orange March. Thats proper disruption for you.
Things are different in the 17th Century ::)
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2022, 06:35:46 PM
Things are different in the 17th Century ::)
Correct, I could understand it if it was a bunch of old women who were saying the rosary but I have to say I'm a bit shocked, disgusted and disappointed in a group of men coming together as a group to say the rosary.
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
What is it with you people and Trump. You won the election, we're nearly halfway through the next term and you're still crying about Trump. I almost feel like you're annoyed you've lost a bogeyman.
He hasn't gone away, you know.
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 06:47:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2022, 06:35:46 PM
Things are different in the 17th Century ::)
Correct, I could understand it if it was a bunch of old women who were saying the rosary but I have to say I'm a bit shocked, disgusted and disappointed in a group of men coming together as a group to say the rosary.
If they were praying to allah what would the reaction be?
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
What is it with you people and Trump. You won the election, we're nearly halfway through the next term and you're still crying about Trump. I almost feel like you're annoyed you've lost a bogeyman.
The point with Trump is that he hasn't been lost.
He's still ruling the American right with an iron fist and they've bought completely into his stolen election fantasy out of fear of their lunatic base. Have you seen some of the absolute whackjobs the GOP is putting up for the general election in November, including for statewide offices like governor? Just thank christ not all of them won their primary.
The Tories are not far behind them.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2022, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
What is it with you people and Trump. You won the election, we're nearly halfway through the next term and you're still crying about Trump. I almost feel like you're annoyed you've lost a bogeyman.
The point with Trump is that he hasn't been lost.
He's still ruling the American right with an iron fist and they've bought completely into his stolen election fantasy out of fear of their lunatic base. Have you seen some of the absolute whackjobs the GOP is putting up for the general election in November, including for statewide offices like governor? Just thank christ not all of them won their primary.
The Tories are not far behind them.
The Tories have Richi Sunak and Priti Patel in the 2nd and 3rd biggest jobs so they arent that bad with the old fulltime racism.
£££££££
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2022, 12:30:07 PM
£££££££
The colour of money talks, not the colour of skin
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 23, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2022, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
What is it with you people and Trump. You won the election, we're nearly halfway through the next term and you're still crying about Trump. I almost feel like you're annoyed you've lost a bogeyman.
The point with Trump is that he hasn't been lost.
He's still ruling the American right with an iron fist and they've bought completely into his stolen election fantasy out of fear of their lunatic base. Have you seen some of the absolute whackjobs the GOP is putting up for the general election in November, including for statewide offices like governor? Just thank christ not all of them won their primary.
The Tories are not far behind them.
The Tories have Richi Sunak and Priti Patel in the 2nd and 3rd biggest jobs so they arent that bad with the old fulltime racism.
lol, patel is a despicable human being. Her, Sunak, Javid have all taken the soup, you won't see any of them sticking up minority ethnic rights. They're all in politics to further enrich themselves and they're already extremely rich, Sunak is one of the richest men in the UK.
Quote from: lenny on May 23, 2022, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 23, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2022, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
What is it with you people and Trump. You won the election, we're nearly halfway through the next term and you're still crying about Trump. I almost feel like you're annoyed you've lost a bogeyman.
The point with Trump is that he hasn't been lost.
He's still ruling the American right with an iron fist and they've bought completely into his stolen election fantasy out of fear of their lunatic base. Have you seen some of the absolute whackjobs the GOP is putting up for the general election in November, including for statewide offices like governor? Just thank christ not all of them won their primary.
The Tories are not far behind them.
The Tories have Richi Sunak and Priti Patel in the 2nd and 3rd biggest jobs so they arent that bad with the old fulltime racism.
lol, patel is a despicable human being. Her, Sunak, Javid have all taken the soup, you won't see any of them sticking up minority ethnic rights. They're all in politics to further enrich themselves and they're already extremely rich, Sunak is one of the richest men in the UK. Sunak married one of the richest women in the UK
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 23, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2022, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 22, 2022, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 22, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 22, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Channel 4 is not left wing, people who think it is tend to be tories. In fact, anything that isn't right wing, like the centrist Independent, is usually considered left wing by tories. The Observer is more centrist than left, likewise the Guardian. The Mirror/Sunday Mirror are pretty much centrist as well, which is about as far left as you can get in mainstream British politics these days.
One of the oddities of the modern world is that viewpoints held as left wing for decades are now considered centrist, even though they never actually changed. The meter shifted half a mile to the left and anyone that didn't shift with it is now a centrist or far right.
It's the complete reverse. The current Tory party is populated by people who would have found a home in the national front in the 70s/80s. Any decent, reasonable centre right politicians were evicted from the party on the altar of brexit. Decent people and politicians like Anna soubry, Dominic grieve, Rory Stewart and quite a few others should be the kind of talent leading the party today. Instead the media have pushed their hard brexit to enrich an elite few and they've done it using blatant racism to play on peoples fears. People like Trump being in any way mainstream would have been unheard of 20/30 years ago with his right wing views and repeated racist comments.
What is it with you people and Trump. You won the election, we're nearly halfway through the next term and you're still crying about Trump. I almost feel like you're annoyed you've lost a bogeyman.
The point with Trump is that he hasn't been lost.
He's still ruling the American right with an iron fist and they've bought completely into his stolen election fantasy out of fear of their lunatic base. Have you seen some of the absolute whackjobs the GOP is putting up for the general election in November, including for statewide offices like governor? Just thank christ not all of them won their primary.
The Tories are not far behind them.
The Tories have Richi Sunak and Priti Patel in the 2nd and 3rd biggest jobs so they arent that bad with the old fulltime racism.
https://www.psypost.org/2019/09/people-with-lower-emotional-intelligence-are-more-likely-to-hold-right-wing-views-study-finds-54369
I've always thought this and the study linked proves it. The right wing posters on here also prove it with their lack of empathy for fellow citizens.