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[wicked]

Quarterbacks outside the BCS have contended for the Heisman, see Steve McNair and Joe Dudek, Dudek played for a small college in upstate New Hampshire that was in Division III.

Much less likely to see it nowadays, granted, but the kid at Nevada is pretty damn good.

[mc_grens]

Cowboys and Vikings are 0-2, so much for two teams everyone was picking to play in the Super Bowl, or at the least meet in the NFC title game.

My pick is the Packers v the Ravens. Has been since the end of last year.

Flacco is going to have to improve vastly for the Ravens to come through the AFC though...

I think that Ravens secondary is just too beat up. Eventually a Pats, Chargers, or a Colts will throw all over them. I also think that whilst they have 3 quality receivers none of them is a deep threat, s o the ofense is very short and lacks a big play threat.

I'm taking Pack -Colts in case you're wondering.

[RealSpiritof98]

What about this guy? Unreal stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhi3SX0TAmw

Wilson is a nut job, but he has been unreal from the all-star break, San D seem to have really shit their knickers, important last road trip coming up for the Giants, hope they can keep the momentum and finish well and reach 1st post-season post bonds.

[AZOffaly]

Lads, that QB from Reno will not even be a finalist in the Heisman. Just because the commisioner of the conference he plays in says that he should be does not make it so.

[NAG1]

Denver Broncos wide receiver McKinley found dead

McKinley was on injured reserve in December after suffering a knee injury Denver Broncos wide receiver Kenny McKinley has been found dead in his home in an apparent suicide, police in the US state of Colorado have said.

Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson said authorities were called to McKinley's house in Centennial on Monday and found his body in a bedroom.

He said detectives believed the 23-year-old had shot himself.

McKinley, a fifth-round pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, played in eight games with the Broncos as a rookie.

He was placed on injured reserve in December after suffering a knee injury.

"Everyone with the Broncos is shocked and saddened by the loss of Kenny McKinley," team president Pat Bowlen said.

"He was part of the Broncos family and will be greatly missed by our organisation. My most heartfelt condolences go out to Kenny's family and friends," he added.

In January 2007, Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams was killed in a drive-by shooting. Three months later, back-up running back Damien Nash collapsed and died after a charity basketball game in St Louis.


Some serious bad luck surrounding them lately! Very sad waste of a young life!

[Puckoon]

Moving on AZ..

Great game at Candlestick Park in the bay last night. After a very shaky start, the 9ers showed great resilience to get back in the game - and then hold the saints on three goal line attempts late in the 4th which would have killed the game. Alex Smith showed a great arm, great speed - and most importantly great decision making to drive the 9ers down field for the game tieing TD and 2 point conversion.

What can you say about Brees and the Saints offence though - 1.40 on the clock and the saints go marching in. Screwey field goal attempt - but it went through the sticks.


#80 was retired last night. Proper order.

Very sad about the Denver Receiver.

What about Randy Moss' one handed catch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FM2iRLV8BI

And Troy Polamalu's tackle over the entire offensive line!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DyzASDVpwU

[AZOffaly]

Moving on AZ..

OK, but I get the last word because you did the smiley thing. This is from Ivan Maisel, the ESPNU analyst for college football. He's not right all the time, so there might be a margin for error, but there's some distance between his rankings for the Heisman and the commisioner of the WAC


Mark Ingram among Heisman favorites

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Maisel By Ivan Maisel
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Your parents' generation never trusted anyone over 30. Everything happens faster these days. The Heisman Trophy no longer trusts anyone over 21. The past three winners -- Tim Tebow of Florida, Sam Bradford of Oklahoma and Mark Ingram of Alabama -- hoisted the 25-pound keepsake in their sophomore season.

Ingram is the 19th underclassman to win the Heisman. Only one of them, Archie Griffin of Ohio State, won another. Ingram's journey to join Griffin won't be easy, if the journeys of his predecessors are any measure. Expectations for Ingram will be higher -- after all, he won a Heisman.

There's also the very real possibility that none of these 20 for '10 Heisman contenders will win. Ingram surely wasn't on anyone's short list of contenders last season. Heisman voters always have taken into consideration the success of a player and his team. The voters seem less concerned with how he performed in prior seasons.

If you're looking for a fourth consecutive sophomore to win the Heisman, listed below are four -- quarterbacks Landry Jones of Oklahoma and Andrew Luck of Stanford, and tailbacks Dion Lewis of Pittsburgh and LaMichael James of Oregon. There are no freshmen on this list. The next freshman to win the Heisman will be the first.


1. Mark Ingram, Alabama: The fireplug junior will try to join Archie Griffin as the only two-time Heisman winners. The running back has the talent to do it and the blockers around him.

2. Jake Locker, Washington: The NFL loves the quarterback's skills. The Dawg fans just love him. The Heisman voters won't love this senior unless the Huskies return to the winning ways of yore.

3. Terrelle Pryor, Ohio State: If the junior QB plays in the rest of 2010 the way that he played on Jan. 1 in the Rose Bowl, then he will attend the Heisman ceremony in December.

4. Christian Ponder, Florida State: A new era in Tallahassee begins with an old quarterback. The Seminoles will return to relevance on this senior's experience and live arm.

5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State: The junior running back import from Texas has been so entertaining and effective that the Pac-10 tried to recruit four teams from the state.

6. Evan Royster, Penn State: A veteran line and a young quarterback translate into a lot of responsibility -- and opportunity -- for this senior running back.

7. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas: The best arm west of Stephen Strasburg will lead the Hogs' attempt to dethrone Alabama. But the Arkansas defense has to do its part, too.

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  Kirby Lee/US PresswireKellen Moore could become the first Heisman winner from a non-AQ school since BYU's Ty Detmer in 1990.
  
  8. Kellen Moore, Boise State: The junior QB doesn't look the part until you see his statistics. Moore's brains and accuracy have helped lead the Broncos to the top five.
  
  9. Ricky Dobbs, Navy: The best Midshipmen quarterback since Roger Staubach, Dobbs oozes leadership and runs the option offense to perfection. If his passing accuracy improves, watch out.
  
  10. Jerrod Johnson, Texas A&M: The best quarterback in the Big 12 has a defensive end's size (6-foot-5, 243 pounds) and an arm both strong and accurate. His feet are pretty good, too.
  
  11. Dion Lewis, Pittsburgh: As a freshman last season, Lewis rushed for 1,799 yards and 17 touchdowns. If the offensive line (two returning starters) is ready, Lewis will be.
  
  12. Case Keenum, Houston: The senior is 4,100 yards or so short of owning the NCAA career passing record, now at 17,072 yards. Keenum's cartoonish numbers speak for themselves.
  
  13. Andrew Luck, Stanford: The redshirt sophomore helped take the Cardinal to Pac-10 runner-up last year. If the QB and the Cardinal thrive without running back Toby Gerhart, he will be a Heisman candidate.
  
  20 For '10
  
  Get ready for the season with the 20 for '10 things you need to know.
  Who, what, where for 2010
  • Schlabach: Hot and not
  • Maisel: Heisman contenders
  • Adelson: Must-see games
  • McShay: Top NFL prospects
  • Adelson: Best shot at title
  • Schlabach: Tough situations
  • Adelson: Take your pick
  • Forde: Top small RBs
  • Schlabach: It's in the genes
  • Top 20 super fans for '10
  
  14. Landry Jones, Oklahoma: Last year's pain is this year's gain. After learning on the job as Sam Bradford's stand-in, the OU QB is bigger, stronger and smarter.
  
  15. LaMichael James, Oregon: The dismissal of QB Jeremiah Masoli makes the running back the Ducks' most dangerous offensive weapon. Will being suspended for the opener hurt him in voting?
  
  16. Ricky Stanzi, Iowa: The senior QB produced one great fourth-quarter comeback after another last season. Now he must learn to play better in the first three quarters.
  
  17. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech: The sophomore running back is an obvious candidate after last season (1,655 yards, 21 scores). But with four backs and one ball, will Williams get the carries to win a Heisman?
  
  18. Julio Jones, Alabama: The junior's numbers dipped last season because of injuries. When healthy, his NFL body gives the wide receiver a huge advantage over college corners.
  
  19. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame: If this junior wideout adjusts to new coach Brian Kelly's offense, watch out. Kelly seems smart enough to figure out how to use his best player.
  
  20. Noel Devine, West Virginia: He rushed for 1,465 yards despite nagging injuries. This season, with a young quarterback and an experienced line, Devine should shine.

[Puckoon]

Moving on AZ..

OK, but I get the last word because you did the smiley thing. This is from Ivan Maisel, the ESPNU analyst for college football. He's not right all the time, so there might be a margin for error, but there's some distance between his rankings for the Heisman and the commisioner of the WAC


Mark Ingram among Heisman favorites

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Maisel By Ivan Maisel
ESPN.com
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Your parents' generation never trusted anyone over 30. Everything happens faster these days. The Heisman Trophy no longer trusts anyone over 21. The past three winners -- Tim Tebow of Florida, Sam Bradford of Oklahoma and Mark Ingram of Alabama -- hoisted the 25-pound keepsake in their sophomore season.

Ingram is the 19th underclassman to win the Heisman. Only one of them, Archie Griffin of Ohio State, won another. Ingram's journey to join Griffin won't be easy, if the journeys of his predecessors are any measure. Expectations for Ingram will be higher -- after all, he won a Heisman.

There's also the very real possibility that none of these 20 for '10 Heisman contenders will win. Ingram surely wasn't on anyone's short list of contenders last season. Heisman voters always have taken into consideration the success of a player and his team. The voters seem less concerned with how he performed in prior seasons.

If you're looking for a fourth consecutive sophomore to win the Heisman, listed below are four -- quarterbacks Landry Jones of Oklahoma and Andrew Luck of Stanford, and tailbacks Dion Lewis of Pittsburgh and LaMichael James of Oregon. There are no freshmen on this list. The next freshman to win the Heisman will be the first.

The last words are still yours. 

[AZOffaly]

Very good Still doesn't change the fact that your boy will still be a 'Who??' in December.

Mark Ingram does play for Alabama you know

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Notre Dame vs Navy switched to Landsdowne Ro Aviva Stadium


http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/27657/aviva-stadium-to-host-navy-notre-dame

[AZOffaly]

Good. Croker was going to be way too big for that, and the pitch was also too big. The Aviva should be fine. Lansdowne was perfect for Pitt-Rutgers or BC-Army that I was at as well.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Full of news today 



Broken Leg Bush 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5598337

Braylon Edwards done for driving while intoxicated

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/21/jets-braylon-edwards- busted-for-dwi-in-nyc/

[Puckoon]

Very good Still doesn't change the fact that your boy will still be a 'Who??' in December.

Mark Ingram does play for Alabama you know

That is very harsh! I am surprised at you.

That is too bad about Bush - he was playing a blinder last night.

[Puckoon]

Full of news today 



Broken Leg Bush 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5598337

Braylon Edwards done for driving while intoxicated

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/21/jets-braylon-edwards- busted-for-dwi-in-nyc/

f**k him - what a prat. You have to feel sorry for these mega stars all right

"The Player Protect program is in place for our organization to prevent this situation. Braylon is aware of this program and showed poor judgment."

[passedit]

http://www.lflus.com

Didnt know whether to put this here or in the WTF thread.

latest scores

http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/sports_photos/Passion_60_Charm_6.html