American Sports Thread

[magickingdom]

He is a great kid by all accounts and he is a stud quarterback at a big school, he is a winner and the wmen love him so for some muppet to come on here and call him an asshole because of his belief system  is ridiculous.

Jesus, all those years in the states really have reduced your ability to take anything with a pinch of salt, haven't they?

ah no, the juice was way over the top there. . .

[heganboy]

quote from guy in our office, "you'd be praising jesus all night every night if you got your hands on that"

[thejuice]

He is a great kid by all accounts and he is a stud quarterback at a big school, he is a winner and the wmen love him so for some muppet to come on here and call him an asshole because of his belief system  is ridiculous.

Jesus, all those years in the states really have reduced your ability to take anything with a pinch of salt, haven't they?

ah no, the juice was way over the top there. . .

Well Jesus Christ in holy heaven, do ye boys take everything seriously. I don't know the lad, wouldn't know him if he passed me in the street. I made some flippant remarks about him not taking advantage of the situation that he finds himself in, its up to him, doesn't make a difference to me and what I think doesn't make a difference to him.

As you said I was 'Way Over The Top' and I thought that would have been a clue that I wasn't being serious. I don't know lads, sure I thought casual swearing and verbal abuse was still OK among folks.  Ye big bunch of assholes.

Anyway, should be a good weekend, Falcons Bears should be a good one. Think we can do it, though Cutler has improved them. Giants-Saints is going to be a great one.

[J70]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1015/1224256692191.html

NFL bosses will not Rush to welcome radio host

Rush Limbaugh's hopes of part owning the St Louis Rams appear to be doomed from the outset

THAT THE St Louis Rams would wind up on the auction block had been pretty much a foregone conclusion since the moment Georgia Irwin Geiger Johnson Wyler Hayes Rosenbloom Frontiere succumbed to breast cancer in January, and earlier this summer Madame Ram's children and heirs, Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez, confirmed their intention to sell.

Two weeks ago the National Football League began vetting candidates as they entertained bids from prospective bidders, and within days word had leaked out that one of the front-runners appeared to be a consortium headed up by Dave Checketts.

Checketts is the former front man at Madison Square Garden, and at one point presided over the National Basketball Association Knicks and the National Hockey League Rangers, and had his thumb on the Garden's boxing department. Checketts is considered an able administrator, as evinced by the turnaround he has effected since assuming control of the NHL St Louis Blues. (He also is the principal owner of a Major League Soccer franchise, Real Salt Lake.) Since his bid would almost certainly include a commitment to keeping the Rams in St Louis, he was briefly considered the front-runner.

But for all of his qualifications, it seemed unlikely Checketts had access to $850 million or so in walking-around money that seems to be the asking price in this fire sale, and that was confirmed when the news leaked a primary component of his ownership group was the detestable, race-baiting conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh.

The last time Limbaugh's name and the NFL appeared in the same sentence had come six years ago, when ESPN hired him to work their pre-game broadcast leading into their Monday Night Football telecasts. After a few weeks on the job Rush accused the media of overlooking the shortcomings of Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb out of desire to see a black athlete, even an inferior one, succeed.

What was not known at the time was Limbaugh was operating under the influence of a serious oxycontin jones. Under pressure, he resigned from ESPN within days, but before the 2003 season was over, a couple of the doctors who'd been enabling his addiction had their medical licences revoked. Rush was spared prosecution when he voluntarily entered a rehab facility. That his reputation had not suffered among his loyalists was made clear when he signed a contract extension worth nearly $400 million for his syndicated radio program, giving him the wherewithal to be a major backer of the Checketts bid for the Rams.

This being America, Limbaugh's views, however obnoxious, are protected by the First Amendment, and hence cannot be held against him in what would be a public offering. But this is also the NFL we're talking about, the world's most exclusive club, and the "winner" would still have to pass muster with the other 31 owners. Some of them are hidebound conservatives who might privately subscribe to some of Rush's hysteria about African Americans in general and the Obama administration in particular, but they are smart enough to recognise a public relations disaster when they see one, and allowing Rush Limbaugh into the club would plainly be more trouble than it was worth.

His stint in rehab didn't seem to mellow Rush. He is on record as having compared the NFL to "a game between the Bloods and Crips without any weapons". Recently he described Obama's America as "a place where white kids get beat up on school buses and black kids cheer about it".

While it is true Limbaugh commands over 20 million listeners, that still leaves 280 million other Americans who ignore him on a daily basis.

Limbaugh's stock also fell in the eyes of many Republican operatives, and the rank and file, during last year's election, between his antipathy toward John McCain and his earlier "Operation Chaos", in which he urged Republican voters to abandon their primaries and vote for Hillary Clinton in a last-ditch measure to try to stave off the rolling Obama bandwagon.

That the Rams have lost 15 games going into Sunday's visit to Jacksonville probably hasn't done much for the asking price, and several members of the team (two-thirds of whom are black) have voiced their unwillingness to play for a team of which Limbaugh is even a part-owner.) Several prominent potential free agents have indicated like views, and more have been urged to do so by DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the NFL Players Association.

Limbaugh's Obama obsession appears to have become so personal in nature it strains even the limits of warped conservative philosophy. He is on record as having said he hopes to see the president "fail" at every turn, and when the 2016 Olympics were awarded to Rio, he exploded in glee, having interpreted the president's pro-forma appearance on behalf of the doomed Chicago bid as a crushing defeat.

A few days ago, Limbaugh sent an email to the Associated Press complaining about his treatment by the media: "It is regrettable something I have dreamed about for years has taken this course," he lamented. "But the fight is worth it to me. I love the NFL."

Demagogues at the other end of the spectrum like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are just warming up, but on another level, I'd almost like to see what a Limbaugh-owned team would look like. A lily-white one, one suspects, sort of like the pre-1962 Washington Redskins.

Although he has since distanced himself from the remark, Limbaugh was quoted in Jack Huberman's 2001 book 101 People Who Are Screwing America with an observation that may have hinted at how he'd like to run a team: "Let's face it, we didn't have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite. Slavery built the south. I'm not saying that we should bring it back. I'm just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."

I know the man pretty well, and I, for one, can guarantee you theres not a chance in hell of New England Patriots' owner Robert Kraft approving a guy like that, and a couple of days ago another friend of mine, Indianapolis Colts' owner Jim Irsay, became the first member of the club to go on record with respect to Limbaugh's candidacy, saying, "I, myself, couldn't even consider voting for him. Our words do damage, and that's something we don't need."

Commissioner Roger Goodell is obviously hoping a new leader in the clubhouse will emerge, thus sparing the owners the flak that would result if they wound up blackballing Checketts' group because of Limbaugh, but even in his position as honest broker, Goodell said this week "divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about".

It might be well to bear in mind while Limbaugh's bigoted speech might be constitutionally protected, membership of the world's most exclusive club is not. As the prospectus outlining the terms of the sale notes, "Prospective buyers and sellers should bear in mind that the NFL reserves the right not to approve an application for membership."

Which ought to be end of story.

Glad this guy isn't joining the club though I've heard a good few red neck NFL fans are walking away from the league in disgust.


Also seen this about Brain injuries in contact sports. Interesting stuff.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sciencetoday/2009/1015/1224256675314.html

The sports legacy institute examined Chris Benoits brain, turned out to be similar to that of a very severe case of Alzheimer's.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

Of course, his apparent dream to own an NFL team aside, this is all going to end up boosting his popularity among his knuckle-dragging following even more! Player unions, PC/chickenshit NFL owners, liberal media and elites... just about every aspect of the far-right demagogue's list of bogeymen is represented and conspired to deny this true man of the American people his just deserts! If you go on the right wing websites and blogs, they're swearing revenge!

That said, I think the author is overstating the role or power that Limbaugh would have had here. Even if he wanted to, the possibility of putting together an all-white team in the NFL in this day and age is just about zero. Plus, half of the population of St Louis proper (as opposed to the wider metropolitan area) is African American.

[Carmen Stateside]

Notre Dame vs USC should be a decent game today.  USC 10 point favourites.  Took the Irish to cover along with Oklahoma against Texas.  Bradford off early for Oklahoma which doesnt help much!

[Oraisteach]

Buckeyes getting a bad beating at the hands of Purdue.

[magickingdom]

tebow doing a good job right now for the gators.... 20-20 tie with arkansas just got them into field goal range with seconds left

[magickingdom]

florida get the win 23-20 to keep it going....

[new devil]

What a game in the stadium tonight....A-rod done it again....f**k it was cold...lets go yankeessssssssssssss!!!

[magickingdom]

What a game in the stadium tonight....A-rod done it again....f**k it was cold...lets go yankeessssssssssssss!!!

were you there new devil? unbelievable, you cant get better then that, a rod finally becomes mr october. . nothing between these teams yet yankees 2 up because of a few errors. 13 innings must be up there as a postseason record

[Carmen Stateside]

What a game in the stadium tonight....A-rod done it again....f**k it was cold...lets go yankeessssssssssssss!!!

No doubt A- rod is the man at the minute.  The Yankees pitching is standing to them, not just their starters but the guys in the bullpen aswell.  Fancy them to take at least one in LA and win it back at Yankee Stadium.  Will go with you to that one.
That season ticket you bought is coming in handy now!!

[magpie seanie]

Giants getting their asses whupped but not dead yet at ht in the dome. Brees cutting them apart and they look far from the best team in the league. New Orleans look the real deal this year. Really looking forward to Bears/Falcs later.

[Minder]

The most impressive thing about the Saints and Brees in particular is he spreads the throws about so well, he does not have a blue chip receiver ( you could make an argument for Colston and he was a 7th round draft pick) but usually has about 5 or 6 players with at least one catch. Similar to Manning in Indy. Will be interesting to see how they fare in December/ January in outdoor games without much of a running game.

[mc_grens]

I think Colston is absolutely a no1 receiver! Some of his catches today have been sensational- particularly the where he twisted in mid air to make the catch.

[Minder]

I think Colston is absolutely a no1 receiver! Some of his catches today have been sensational- particularly the where he twisted in mid air to make the catch.

He is a No 1 receiver alright (I have drafted him twice in fantasy football) but he does not get the recognition that other receivers do. Brees will probably throw for about 6tds but not to Colston as I need a few points from him today