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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 21, 2018, 07:39:03 PM »
Pardon my ignorance but how would the normal law abiding concerned citizen even go about getting a constitution changed?

It's a long road.  Only one amendment has ever been repealed. Here's what the constitution says (basically you need 2/3 of the senate and house of reps to agree to propose the amendment, and 3/4 of the 50 states (38 of them) to agree to repeal.  It's all but impossible to see this in the current climate.) 

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

There it is again. Defeatism. It-will-never-happen-ism. This is what the NRA and their right wing media scumbags want you to think. They tried for years to do the same with socialized medicine, but we are now one presidential election away from actually achieving it. And with the anti-Trump feeling in the country at fever pitch, I'd say the chances of repealing the 2nd are better now than they ever have been. Mid-term elections are not so far off, and I'll be surprised if there's not a Democratic landslide.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 21, 2018, 07:35:05 PM »

Much like every thread you pollute it.

Read his post - he has said he is open to being part of a solution.
He has questioned how many other Americans feel like this.

He has outlined constitutional rights, marketing campaigns, NRA etc which would be possible barriers to a solution.

And this isnt sensible in your world?

If he were willing to be part of the solution he'd be open to a few facts. Such as the presence of a gun in your house making it more likely that you're going to be shot. People like him are far too comfortable around guns for their own good. He has been brainwashed and de-sensitized to them. Time he got rid of his guns for his own sake and for the sake of his family.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 21, 2018, 07:30:00 PM »
I think thats half the problem here....the likes of Eamonn championing the cause  typing on the gaaboard from some cafe in San Fran - hero. And Milltown saying there is absolutely no argument for anything other than what he believes to be true......and lads from the north talking about how government needs to change in other countries and there's no government up on the hill.....  lots of passionate people on here but I would guess very few who actually get off their arses and do anything other than hammer keys to post on the gaaboard....

Did you post that on gaaboard using a keyboard? "Hero" indeed.

There are few things as priceless as someone angrily thumping a keyboard to post online comments berating someone else for posting comments using a keyboard.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 21, 2018, 01:15:56 AM »
Whatever state has the strictest laws......implement those restrictions from the federal level and implement them

Not quite how it works. It's a matter for the states. If the 2nd amendment were repealed it'd be a different matter.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:38:56 PM »
And in Massachusetts they have among the lowest gun deaths per capita in the US as well as some of the most stringent controls over who can get a gun. Thanks for proving my point.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:00:36 PM »
Well I think if they stay with the thoughts and payers it should work. Jesus will sort it
why are you so hung up on this? play another record, get involved in the conversation or just make your point already

There is no point to make, as you or anyone else in America will not give up their guns! Can’t believe people have guns in their house! Bizarre.. but the attitude is that the thoughts and payers will get the American public through it!

There is not one arguemdnt to have a gun, not one

As for a model to follow for gun laws why not use the Irish one?

So you think an individual should not be able to protect themselves, their families and their property from violent intruders?

(I dont have one and wont get one, but have absolutely no problem with someone having a handgun to protect themselves in their own homes)

So you think violent intruders should be allowed to obtain guns without having to go out of their way in the slightest?

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 10:08:23 PM »
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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 09:54:00 PM »
See what I mean about people being conditioned into saying "it'll never happen"?

Did they have a constitutional right to own firearms in Aus?

And they only confiscated something like 30% of all guns in Australia, so if we implemented their system here, wed still have over 200,000,000 gund in private hands

If it makes you feel better, keep believing it will work

And they haven't had a mass shooting since.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 07:09:00 PM »
See what I mean about people being conditioned into saying "it'll never happen"?

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 06:55:10 PM »
Ask the Australians.

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General discussion / Re: Radio Ulster
« on: February 20, 2018, 06:54:39 PM »
I listen to David Dunseith for years, as quality interviewer you would have and pulled no punches

Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. Challenged everyone to think differently.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 06:09:21 PM »
Expecting journalists not to have opinions now, are we? Yeah. Good luck with that one.

You’d swear there was a Mr. New York Times writing every op-ed the way you wrote that.

If these opinions will have the opposite effect of what they’re trying to accomplish and will be used by the NRA to raise tens of millions of additional dollars, its pretty stupid of the NY Times to publish it, but as I said during the election.....keep it up!!!

So anti-gun people should shut up? I don't think so. That time has passed.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 20, 2018, 06:08:14 PM »

Any of course the fvckin NY Times cant help themselves and have an op ed calling for repealing the Second Ammemdment.........do they have any idea how much that hurts the prospect of any real change.   

  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/opinion/repeat-repeal-second-amendment.html

The US constitution has been amended 27 times. It can be amended a 28th. Most Americans are sick of this gun nonsense and support change to the status quo. Repealing the second amendment is a perfectly legitimate objective and it's an achievable goal. The people who support a repeal have been conditioned into saying "it will never happen" every time the subject comes up, but like Bernie did with universal healthcare, the conversation can be changed.

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 18, 2018, 02:29:37 AM »
Damn. Best of luck to you, Stew. Even if you are still an oul ballix!

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 17, 2018, 08:08:26 PM »

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