Murder of Aisling Murphy

[trileacman]

What happened the wee girl was awful and sorry for slightly off topic but the media (social & MSM) definitely drives or determines who gets mourned and who doesn't. Compare Aisling to the Mongolian lady stabbed in Dublin....another one is Sarah Everard to the Muslim girl in South East London. One all over the papers, the other hardly mentioned despite being weeks apart.

Yeah absolutely, occupation always gets mentioned in the first line of the story. Marketing executive Sarah Everard, Teacher Aisling Murphy etc. You don't really see that when it's someone unemployed or doing menial work murdered. It's been like that for years now I suppose. There is certainly a hierarchy of victims

And a hierarchy of assailants too. I wonder what the narrative would be if the alleged killer was a 30 year old GAA, rugby or soccer star from the town?

Do you mean he'd get a easier time if he was a local star or a worse time.

[Tony Baloney]

What happened the wee girl was awful and sorry for slightly off topic but the media (social & MSM) definitely drives or determines who gets mourned and who doesn't. Compare Aisling to the Mongolian lady stabbed in Dublin....another one is Sarah Everard to the Muslim girl in South East London. One all over the papers, the other hardly mentioned despite being weeks apart.

Yeah absolutely, occupation always gets mentioned in the first line of the story. Marketing executive Sarah Everard, Teacher Aisling Murphy etc. You don't really see that when it's someone unemployed or doing menial work murdered. It's been like that for years now I suppose. There is certainly a hierarchy of victims

There is always a hierarchy when it comes to these cases. Age and looks play a part in the emotional response as well as colour, background, occupation. It is just human nature as all people make judgements.

[brokencrossbar1]

What happened the wee girl was awful and sorry for slightly off topic but the media (social & MSM) definitely drives or determines who gets mourned and who doesn't. Compare Aisling to the Mongolian lady stabbed in Dublin....another one is Sarah Everard to the Muslim girl in South East London. One all over the papers, the other hardly mentioned despite being weeks apart.

Yeah absolutely, occupation always gets mentioned in the first line of the story. Marketing executive Sarah Everard, Teacher Aisling Murphy etc. You don't really see that when it's someone unemployed or doing menial work murdered. It's been like that for years now I suppose. There is certainly a hierarchy of victims

And a hierarchy of assailants too. I wonder what the narrative would be if the alleged killer was a 30 year old GAA, rugby or soccer star from the town?

Do you mean he'd get a easier time if he was a local star or a worse time.

I genuinely don't know but I suspect an easier time.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

What happened the wee girl was awful and sorry for slightly off topic but the media (social & MSM) definitely drives or determines who gets mourned and who doesn't. Compare Aisling to the Mongolian lady stabbed in Dublin....another one is Sarah Everard to the Muslim girl in South East London. One all over the papers, the other hardly mentioned despite being weeks apart.

Yeah absolutely, occupation always gets mentioned in the first line of the story. Marketing executive Sarah Everard, Teacher Aisling Murphy etc. You don't really see that when it's someone unemployed or doing menial work murdered. It's been like that for years now I suppose. There is certainly a hierarchy of victims

There is always a hierarchy when it comes to these cases. Age and looks play a part in the emotional response as well as colour, background, occupation. It is just human nature as all people make judgements.

human nature or learned behaviour..... not for this thread...

[whitey]

What happened the wee girl was awful and sorry for slightly off topic but the media (social & MSM) definitely drives or determines who gets mourned and who doesn't. Compare Aisling to the Mongolian lady stabbed in Dublin....another one is Sarah Everard to the Muslim girl in South East London. One all over the papers, the other hardly mentioned despite being weeks apart.

Yeah absolutely, occupation always gets mentioned in the first line of the story. Marketing executive Sarah Everard, Teacher Aisling Murphy etc. You don't really see that when it's someone unemployed or doing menial work murdered. It's been like that for years now I suppose. There is certainly a hierarchy of victims

There is always a hierarchy when it comes to these cases. Age and looks play a part in the emotional response as well as colour, background, occupation. It is just human nature as all people make judgements.

human nature or learned behaviour..... not for this thread...

People are more emotionally involved when a victim looks like them or has a lot in common with them

If someone got shot dead in a gangland or traveller feud, most people on here (or anywhere else for that matter) wouldn't give 2 Fv{ks

[armaghniac]

It even goes beyond what people look like. The Mongolian lady just didn't know many Irish people and was not in widespread associations like Comhaltas or the GAA to say nothing of a school.

If your granny dies in the normal way or a well known author or TV person dies there is a difference in coverage.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-charged-with-murder-of-ashling-murphy-in-tullamore-co-offaly-1.4780743

 

 

A man has been remanded in custody for a week charged with the murder of Ashling Murphy.

Jozef Puska (31), with an address at Lynally Grove, Mucklagh, Co Offaly appeared at special sitting of Tullamore District Court on Wednesday evening.

[nrico2006]

Why is the face blurred out of the person of interest riding the bike that was caught on CCTV?

[Captain Scarlet]

It's a fuckin media circus and now they are all warning the plebs on social media not to post things on social media.
They gave enough details on the initial suspect to identify him, then blamed Social Media.

Chaos at court today and all the outlets with reporters there after earlier tweeting he will at the courthouse at 8.15pm.

[trileacman]

Reports on Twitter of a Slovakian Roma getting a beating on a street by a gang of men in Dublin because he was a "friend" of the accused.

[RedHand88]

It's a fuckin media circus and now they are all warning the plebs on social media not to post things on social media.
They gave enough details on the initial suspect to identify him, then blamed Social Media.

Chaos at court today and all the outlets with reporters there after earlier tweeting he will at the courthouse at 8.15pm.

It's already the Irish rugby trial all over again.

[manfromdelmonte]

It's a fuckin media circus and now they are all warning the plebs on social media not to post things on social media.
They gave enough details on the initial suspect to identify him, then blamed Social Media.

Chaos at court today and all the outlets with reporters there after earlier tweeting he will at the courthouse at 8.15pm.

It's already the Irish rugby trial all over again.

who died in that one?

[rodney trotter]

17 year old woman with a lucky escape in Kilkenny today while out running

https://www.independent.ie/news/another-horror-story-shock-as-young-woman-17-escapes-after-attack-by-man-while-out-running-in-kilkenny-41296798.html

[An Astrail]

What happened the wee girl was awful and sorry for slightly off topic but the media (social & MSM) definitely drives or determines who gets mourned and who doesn't. Compare Aisling to the Mongolian lady stabbed in Dublin....another one is Sarah Everard to the Muslim girl in South East London. One all over the papers, the other hardly mentioned despite being weeks apart.

Yeah absolutely, occupation always gets mentioned in the first line of the story. Marketing executive Sarah Everard, Teacher Aisling Murphy etc. You don't really see that when it's someone unemployed or doing menial work murdered. It's been like that for years now I suppose. There is certainly a hierarchy of victims

And a hierarchy of assailants too. I wonder what the narrative would be if the alleged killer was a 30 year old GAA, rugby or soccer star from the town?

Do you mean he'd get a easier time if he was a local star or a worse time.

I genuinely don't know but I suspect an easier time.

Two parts to that one:

Does it make a good story? 'Local star' would definitely be a big story and get the coverage, same as 'recent immigrant' has.

Does it make the alleged criminal more relatable to the average reader/viewer/journalist? 'Local star' definitely more relatable so you tend to get the mitigating factors rolling out - he was under pressure in some way, partner recently left him, financial issues etc. Makes it easier to separate ourselves from him but also starts to give the perpetrator an out - wasn't really his fault in some way.

[Deerstalker]

Just reading the updates on the cross examination of the suspect, he has now 18 months later changed his story to him being attacked by a masked man, who had also killed Aisling Murphy, and he just went to assist her in the bushes where she was found.

Have to say he's getting torn to shreds in the updates I have seen, he has admitted to lying continually to police, shaving his beard off in the immediate aftermath of the attack to avoid detection.