Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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haranguerer

In general, left-wing politics is in favour of self government as far as possible I believe. So ideologically I guess they'd be against it, but practically its clearly been a boon to Ireland, north and south, so again I guess, they're being practical.

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2017, 04:48:02 PM
What trade (% wise) do the north and south do? Are there no electronic ways of doing customs? why would they not just do the random checks on goods transport and let the rest drive on through? Would no trade in the South hamper their overall econmony?

Louth minister was on the other day and all he had to offer was the peace process and how it would go back to the troubles..
English companies could ship stuff to Strabane and export it via Lifford to the EU. Saving say 20% on tariffs.

Brexit has already resulted in a reduction of the hazelnut content of Nutella in the UK so it is quite serious.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on November 28, 2017, 05:19:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2017, 04:48:02 PM
What trade (% wise) do the north and south do? Are there no electronic ways of doing customs? why would they not just do the random checks on goods transport and let the rest drive on through? Would no trade in the South hamper their overall econmony?

Louth minister was on the other day and all he had to offer was the peace process and how it would go back to the troubles..
English companies could ship stuff to Strabane and export it via Lifford to the EU. Saving say 20% on tariffs.

Brexit has already resulted in a reduction of the hazelnut content of Nutella in the UK so it is quite serious.

Would there not be spot checks on these anyways? I'm sure smuggling goes on anyways and that's how they do it by spot checks? So what's the trade between the north and south? Is farming the biggest loser here?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

ashman

Quote from: haranguerer on November 28, 2017, 05:17:07 PM
In general, left-wing politics is in favour of self government as far as possible I believe. So ideologically I guess they'd be against it, but practically its clearly been a boon to Ireland, north and south, so again I guess, they're being practical.

Sinn Fein are not a left wing party .

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2017, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 28, 2017, 05:19:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2017, 04:48:02 PM
What trade (% wise) do the north and south do? Are there no electronic ways of doing customs? why would they not just do the random checks on goods transport and let the rest drive on through? Would no trade in the South hamper their overall econmony?

Louth minister was on the other day and all he had to offer was the peace process and how it would go back to the troubles..
English companies could ship stuff to Strabane and export it via Lifford to the EU. Saving say 20% on tariffs.

Brexit has already resulted in a reduction of the hazelnut content of Nutella in the UK so it is quite serious.

Would there not be spot checks on these anyways? I'm sure smuggling goes on anyways and that's how they do it by spot checks? So what's the trade between the north and south? Is farming the biggest loser here?
The difference is to big for spot checks to work.
Farmers and SMEs to get shafted

Clov

Quote from: ashman on November 28, 2017, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 28, 2017, 05:17:07 PM
In general, left-wing politics is in favour of self government as far as possible I believe. So ideologically I guess they'd be against it, but practically its clearly been a boon to Ireland, north and south, so again I guess, they're being practical.

Sinn Fein are not a left wing party .

Reminds me of the quote (not sure who from) about the British Labour Party - "The Labour Party is not a socialist party its just got lots of socialists in it."
"One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit"

OgraAnDun

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155453593501939/

Our "fellow citizens" don't even know where the 6C are. The  "Southern Irish"  supposedly just have to "lump it" because they didn't get what they want and they can't obstruct what Britain wants. The arrogance is unbelievable. They expect everyone else to pick up the pieces and take the hit as a consequence of their stupidity.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 29, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155453593501939/

Our "fellow citizens" don't even know where the 6C are. The  "Southern Irish"  supposedly just have to "lump it" because they didn't get what they want and they can't obstruct what Britain wants. The arrogance is unbelievable. They expect everyone else to pick up the pieces and take the hit as a consequence of their stupidity.

Saw it last night. Incredible. One just drew a line straight across the Midlands.
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seafoid

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 29, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 29, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155453593501939/

Our "fellow citizens" don't even know where the 6C are. The  "Southern Irish"  supposedly just have to "lump it" because they didn't get what they want and they can't obstruct what Britain wants. The arrogance is unbelievable. They expect everyone else to pick up the pieces and take the hit as a consequence of their stupidity.

Saw it last night. Incredible. One just drew a line straight across the Midlands.
The only people who care about NI are unionists.
C4 could show a lot more about the differences between England and Ballymena. I wonder how many people in Brentwood know who King Billy is.


Ronnie

Charles Tannock Conservative MEP has proposed that NI have a referendum on membership of the customs union.  Also interesting day at the Exiting the EU select committee.  It seems to me that harmonisation of regulations and standards is going to continue regardless of what happens in GB.  So much for 'Taking back control of our Borders'.

laoislad

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 29, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 29, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155453593501939/

Our "fellow citizens" don't even know where the 6C are. The  "Southern Irish"  supposedly just have to "lump it" because they didn't get what they want and they can't obstruct what Britain wants. The arrogance is unbelievable. They expect everyone else to pick up the pieces and take the hit as a consequence of their stupidity.

Saw it last night. Incredible. One just drew a line straight across the Midlands.
A Dub once asked me was Laois anywhere near Portlaoise. Another told me Clonmel was just outside Naas and she was a teacher.
I wouldn't be bothered about brits not knowing much about us when some of our own don't even know where places are in their own country.
How many Dubs would know where Leitrim was on the map?
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

Rossfan

Most of them seem to be able to find their way to Carrick anyway!
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

OgraAnDun

Quote from: laoislad on November 29, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 29, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 29, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155453593501939/

Our "fellow citizens" don't even know where the 6C are. The  "Southern Irish"  supposedly just have to "lump it" because they didn't get what they want and they can't obstruct what Britain wants. The arrogance is unbelievable. They expect everyone else to pick up the pieces and take the hit as a consequence of their stupidity.

Saw it last night. Incredible. One just drew a line straight across the Midlands.
A Dub once asked me was Laois anywhere near Portlaoise. Another told me Clonmel was just outside Naas and she was a teacher.
I wouldn't be bothered about brits not knowing much about us when some of our own don't even know where places are in their own country.
How many Dubs would know where Leitrim was on the map?
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/1129/923781-can-you-draw-the-border-with-northern-ireland/

You asked, RTE delivered.

sid waddell

Quote from: laoislad on November 29, 2017, 08:59:42 PM

How many Dubs would know where Leitrim was on the map?
That's easy - it's in County Down, up near Castlewellan.