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The Tyrone game is a massacre. The GAA have created a monster.

A successful Dublin teams pays the bills for headquarters and that's all that matters

Did you think that through?

Dublin's fans went to games regardless of whether they were successful. Every game under Pillar seemed to sell out, and we never even got to a final.
All Ireland Semis and final would sell out without the Dubs. A Leinster final without the Dubs would unquestionably sell more tickets than a final with the Dubs.

Despite the stats, I thought Son wasn't all that hot today. I think he's much better wide than through the centre. But his workrate and desire is second to none.

I think Arsenal have a great chance in the CL. Nobody they should be afraid of, but need to be streetwise (which they probably aren't in a European context, but you can learn it )

Because it's not a "certain team" ,it's my team, my country. I don't want to see them lose , and hit the roof when james Lowe scored the try to put us in front, but I'm not afraid to be honest about rugby's many deficiencies. RTE and the Dublin 4 media, hype rugby up disproportionately and without question. That isn't good for rugby and it's not good for Irish sport .
We didn't deliver in the WC again. We had a chance to partly rectify that with back to back grand slams but couldn't deliver against the "auld enemy " when it counted.
Its a cliché but sport is a "game of inches". And when u have to find those inches you need hungry warriors on the pitch . It's an indictment that the 3 hungriest looking Irish players yesterday were NZers. Unpalatable but a reasonable opinion?

We lost in the WC, because NZ were a small fraction better than us. Nobody with any intelligence could deny that the best 4 teams in that competition were SAF, NZ, France and Ireland. Even though only two of them got to the semis. We have failed at previous world cups, but we didn't underperform at this one. Played really well and lost to a team a little bit better on the day. Mistakes were made of course, as happens to every team in every game, but overall we performed.
Correlating it to completely different Ireland teams actually underperforming at prior world cups is an absolute nonsense.

No team has ever won back to back grand slams in Six Nations history. Not a single one. There have been very good England, France and Wales teams who have won grand slams and were thought to be favourites to do 2 in a row. None have. Because it's hard. Two championships in a row will be impressive, but only if they do it. The Scots hate us and certainly won't lie down.

Great game for the neutral. There is no other team in world football that survive that second half. The atmosphere and drive from that Liverpool team was insane. Klopp's teams have fell short in most title races and today was the chance to open a gap, they were not ruthless.

I sense City will be delighted to survive today and I think will go on to win the title from here.

To be fair I think Liverpool be happy with a point also, City missed a couple of chances in second half also, Kelleher saving from Foden and Doku hitting the inside of the post.
Great game.

Mistakes are probably just around the corner,  but to have lads from Cork and Tyrone replacing injured so-called superstars, and being just as good as them, it's incredible. I'm sure the whole of Ireland is cheering us on in the run-in 😀

Did you support Big Jack during those glory years for the Irish team (well not entirely Irish)

International teams in all sports are using outsiders, providing its within the rules then that's ok.

These players come to Ireland and play for Irish clubs, have or start families, their kids go to Irish schools and they put down roots here, in Ireland.


They play with pride and put as much effort into it than paddy Joe from Offaly.

What him being one of Irelands better players has got to do with your point I've no idea. Sexton was Irelands better player for nearly a decade. O'Driscoll the decade before that and so on.

Since u asked. With the exception of carcarino's alleged dodgy Irish connection, all Jack's team were Irish. Ray Houghton is amongst many Glaswegians with a strong sense of irishness because many of their ancestors had to go from Donegal to Scotland or starve . Kevin kilbane and mick McCarthy are examples of people born in the North of England who consider themselves Irish. Kilbane though he has a Yorkshire accent, famously rejected the chance to play for England

Irish Rugby exiled Simon Zebo because he wanted to go to France , yet availed of james Lowe , a clearly proud NZer, with no Irish connection , to effectively take Zebo's place.

I question the authenticity of that , and I'm a celtic supporting , GAA begrudger talking dung . 😂😂😂 .
Gallsman ( presumably a GAA himself) inexplicably drags in sectarianism, when one of my main complaints is that lads at state schools in the north are being deprived of opportunities for Ulster and ireland due to elite rugby tourism .
I'll admit, as I've experience of it, that I've no time for the nonsense around the privileged private school culture in Leinster .

Ultimately the IRFU much like jack Charlton , gathered the best possible team together within the rules. Jack Charlton tapped into the diaspora which in my view is more authentically Irish than Rugby tourism. Soccer is clearly the most popular Sport in the world . Rugby isn't even in the top 3 sports in Ireland . Do I like the fact that rugby is given an elevated status by the Dublin media , No. Do I like that Ulster is poorly represented in the Irish team , No. Do I like the deliberate targetting of concussion vulnerable players, No. Do I like the privileged culture of private education , No. Do I think proud NZers should represent Ireland ahead of an Irishman , No. do I support ireland , yes.


I'd like those that call that begrudgery to explain how they feel about the points above .

Posters on here regularly complain about boring play in Gaelic football, about  Dublin GAA's privileged position , or about Shane Walsh's transfer to kilmacud, or about Irish Soccer's woes , but we dare to criticise the sacred cow/darling of the media , that is Rugby , and we're talking dung. I find that hilarious tbh

Kevin Kilbane is a complete spoofer,  but I agree he has always seen himself as Irish. But can you please elaborate on how he 'famously' turned down England? (Given he would never have been anywhere near a senior England team had he been truly English)

Andy Townsend and John Aldridge are two players who never let Ireland down, always gave 100%. But would undoubtedly have chosen England had we not nabbed them before they became top players in the top division.

Missed most of the first half, but delighted with the second half performance. MacAllister and Endo dominated midfield and Virgil was just immense, but most of them played well. Think Klopp made a mistake taking off Darwin but a draw is a decent result, still ahead of City. Just win our last 10 games and we might pip it!

There's no begrudger like a GAA begrudger! Especially the 'the best team in the world' muppets. Nobody in rugby circles has called Ireland the best team in the world in the build up to, or during, this Six Nations.

When Aston Villa beat Man City earlier in the season, and played them off the park, nobody suggested Villa are a better team than City, but they were better on the day. We are better than England, we'll finish well ahead of them in the championship, they played very well, we were quite poor, and yet they still only grabbed their fully deserved win by a whisker.

Bit of pressure on now to go beat the Scots, who will also have a lot to prove. Which is good for the 6N, because the 3 previous games had probably been too easy. Extraordinary that if things go well next week, there's a chance Ireland will end up with a 90+ points difference and every other team could have a negative points difference.

I haven't watched any of the other 'overlap' thingys where Neville, Carra, Keano, Wright and Scott interview someone, but this one with Solskjaer is really good, especially if you are a United fan (it is 80 min long and I've no real clue what's going on at the beginning while they're eating, but it's good when the interview gets going).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jpwbYwOfg4&t=4848s

Great appetite and workrate from the Dubs. Mototring along nicely. Some great scores by both sides but Derry didn't really bring it in the second half, so can't read too much into it.

Some amount of Palestinian flags at the Dubs end

[What to say about Kelleher? Greatest achievement of any Irish sportsperson this weekend, hands down.]

Caicedos face at the end was EVERYTHING. What he must be thinking watching the club he turned down make a go at sweeping the board.

What to say about Kelleher? Greatest achievement of any Irish sportsperson this weekend, hands down.

Who or what else was in contention for this prestigious honour?

Well, I would give it to Adam Idah

Con all day long 😁

Great that Kelleher has stepped up. That's 4 games in a row where he's played well and made big saves. Arguably could have done better for the Luton goal where the ball went through him, but it was hit with quickly with a lot of pace, but main thing was it didn't impact him one iota. I expect he'll get a decent move in the summer

Fantastic to win that.

Very brave substitutions by Klopp, and wouldn't have won without them. Even if it all goes to shit for the remainder of the season, we have a trophy in the bag for his final season.

Kelleher, Van Dijk, Konate and Endo were superb. And everyone else worked their ballix off. Win, lose or draw, they are a great group of players to support.

Yep. Even without our best 3 strikers, it's still a decent team. But nothing on the bench. Even one of Mo or Darwin being on the bench would have given me good hope for the win, but it's a big ask now.

While I agree with much of SeaFoids post above.
Kerry were very poor yesterday. They had no shape in Defence at all in the first half. Dublin were let do as they pleased.
2nd half they got some shape and Dubin took a while to adjust.
You wont see too many games where the Cliffords are as poor as they were yesterday.
Which begs the question are they too reliant on David Clifford kicking 9 point or more?

Seafoid's posf is a load of nonsense.

The GAA somehow weaponised Dublin by helping fund development officers teaching PE to primary school children  FFS. Not a single cent of development funds goes to the senior team or even to Dublin development squads.

Over the last two decades Kildare and Dublin have been broadly evenly matched at minor and U20/21 level. The fact there's been a huge gulf when the very same players get into the senior team is nothing to do with development funds.

What kind of debt are you left with after, say, a 4 year degree?

My lads in Uni in Dublin, it's a straight €3k per year, all other fees covered by the taxpayer (and temporarily reduced to 2k for the last two years). Albeit rent would be on top of that. If you have to repeat a year or change course than you would have one year at full price (which would depend on the course).

For some low brow offensive comedy, Ted is good fun. The bear character not dissimilar to Danny De Vito's character in Only Sunny in Philadelphia! I thought the film Ted was awful when I first saw it, but re-watching it as a sitcom (ie not expecting any story line and waiting for the oneliners) was a better experience.