Great to be in the Final again this year. Would like to see Barca as it would be 2 great football teams and should be a great match.
where is it this year?
I reckon Barce will be there and whilst Utd can possibly stifle them, I'd still fancy them strongly.
whats the odds for united to win it on penalties again this year?
it is in Rome
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
it is in Rome
And please God Barca make it through as they would win it, Chelsea stand no chance in the final.
If Barca make it through they will definitly have Puyol back, not sure about the extent of Marquez injury. Dont care who goes through, it a final you have to expect top notch opposition. Still think if Utd play to the top of their game they will win it, beat Barca over two legs last year and beat Chelsea ( sort of) over two games this year, although they are vastly improved under Hiddink it must be said. Heres hoping for a mass brawl and five or six red cards tomorrow night.
Wouldnt mind either of them.United capable of beating both.Just on the subject of red cards,Flecthers situation is a complete joke, the ref made a honest mistake but the fact that united cant appeal it is a joke.As is the stupid rule in the prem league were a player cant appeal a two yellow card sending off.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 05, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
it is in Rome
And please God Barca make it through as they would win it, Chelsea stand no chance in the final.
Hmm interesting.
Motivation can play a big role, Chelsea will have plenty.
The one consolation in United making final is that one of them will miss it through suspension and the toys will be flying out of the prams over it for a few weeks.
Hopefully, I can take further consolation when they get beat in the final. Fingers crossed.
Quote from: bingobus on May 05, 2009, 10:51:57 PM
The one consolation in United making final is that one of them will miss it through suspension and the toys will be flying out of the prams over it for a few weeks.
Hopefully, I can take further consolation when they get beat in the final. Fingers crossed.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D no better comment than that, sums it up perfectly
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 05, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
it is in Rome
And please God Barca make it through as they would win it, Chelsea stand no chance in the final.
Sure Chelsea had no chance against Liverpool either
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 05, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
it is in Rome
And please God Barca make it through as they would win it, Chelsea stand no chance in the final.
Sure Chelsea had no chance against Liverpool either
Ah but you better watch out for them next year though :o
Quote from: bingobus on May 05, 2009, 10:51:57 PM
The one consolation in United making final is that one of them will miss it through suspension and the toys will be flying out of the prams over it for a few weeks.
Hopefully, I can take further consolation when they get beat in the final. Fingers crossed.
Good lad bingo, at least you have had a successful season...... :-X
Would you guys recommend going or are any of you thinking about it?
Id sooner go to Rome than Istanbul or Russia... but a few of the lads reckon it would be rough.
The point that was made was that Roma fans are the worst in the world and the police cant even control them.
I cant see them being organised and big enough to cause any trouble on the night?
But anyway... its a long shot but if anyone has access to tickets I would be interested in a couple! ;)
*** praying for a PM ***
I could be wrong here but was it not Roma fans that have had run ins with Utd fans over the last couple of years ?
Irrespective of Chelsea or Barca meeting Utd in the final , the likelihood is that some fan will get a doing from the natives.
I hope the prawn sandwich brigade get their pans knocked in! :D
On another note, Utd must have had the easiest run in to the CL final in a long long time, Porto weren't top class opposition and arsenal wouldnt of scored in a month of sunday's only for a dodgy enough penalty!
Have had my flights and accomodation booked over there since last September/October, in the off-chance united would get there. Now they are there, I have an exam on the 29th :-\ Just my luck. I would consider bunking the exam and doing it in August but it is my final year and really weant to graduate in July! The other three lads are finished up then so they will be away on without me. We have two tickets sorted, and another one is looking quite likely at the minute.
Absolutley gutted, but glad the other three are pretty much sorted
Quote from: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 10:38:24 AM
I hope the prawn sandwich brigade get their pans knocked in! :D
On another note, Utd must have had the easiest run in to the CL final in a long long time, Porto weren't top class opposition and arsenal wouldnt of scored in a month of sunday's only for a dodgy enough penalty!
Inter Milan?
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 06, 2009, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 10:38:24 AM
I hope the prawn sandwich brigade get their pans knocked in! :D
On another note, Utd must have had the easiest run in to the CL final in a long long time, Porto weren't top class opposition and arsenal wouldnt of scored in a month of sunday's only for a dodgy enough penalty!
Inter Milan?
Rolled over quite easily in my opinion, never threatened utd really! A match that was overhyped due to the mourinho/ferguson battle.
Quote from: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 10:55:28 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 06, 2009, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 10:38:24 AM
I hope the prawn sandwich brigade get their pans knocked in! :D
On another note, Utd must have had the easiest run in to the CL final in a long long time, Porto weren't top class opposition and arsenal wouldnt of scored in a month of sunday's only for a dodgy enough penalty!
Inter Milan?
Rolled over quite easily in my opinion, never threatened utd really! A match that was overhyped due to the mourinho/ferguson battle.
Inter rolled over quite easily, or United rolled them over quite easily?
The same arsenal that have scored more away goals than anyone in the PL this season?
Its alright when arsenal are scoring against riff raff opposition, 2-0 down after 10 mins, needed 4 goals to win the match. By the end of the first half, they had one shot on target, a fabregas header from the edge of the box. United were in cruise control last night.
United have not been threatened once really since the knockout stage began, hence imo they have had one of the easiest run ins to the final in a long time.
Do you honestly not hink that this might have had something to do with the way United have played???
They played well due to the fact that the opposition was poor. Its a two way system.
Far enough, but United stifled Arsenal and Inter, especially away from home. To say United have had an easy run-in is ridiculous thiough. Playing a team that are running away with the Italian league with one of the best managers in the world and one of the most in form players in the world is never easy. But Inter never looked like winning.
I would have far rather get Madrid or Juventus in the first round but there you go. Just admit it, United have played the knockout system perfectly, with the exception of the first Porto game :P
Quote from: slow corner back on May 05, 2009, 10:05:36 PM
If Barca make it through they will definitly have Puyol back, not sure about the extent of Marquez injury. Dont care who goes through, it a final you have to expect top notch opposition. Still think if Utd play to the top of their game they will win it, beat Barca over two legs last year and beat Chelsea ( sort of) over two games this year, although they are vastly improved under Hiddink it must be said. Heres hoping for a mass brawl and five or six red cards tomorrow night.
Do you honestly believe that Utd at the top of their game would beat Barce at the top of their game??
You can point to last year and Barce v Utd, but imo there is no comparison - the players and Rijkaard had fallen out of love, Barce also lost to Real 4-1 last May to lose the title, this year beat the same side 2-6, does that mean they'll beat Utd by 4/5 in the final??
Quote from: 118cmal on May 06, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Far enough, but United stifled Arsenal and Inter, especially away from home. To say United have had an easy run-in is ridiculous thiough. Playing a team that are running away with the Italian league with one of the best managers in the world and one of the most in form players in the world is never easy. But Inter never looked like winning.
I would have far rather get Madrid or Juventus in the first round but there you go. Just admit it, United have played the knockout system perfectly, with the exception of the first Porto game :P
Inter were outplayed in the first leg, and should have scored in the second leg - Inter are not a good team, no Italian side is good at present, they have zero pace and have an aging squad.
That's not to say that Utd don't deserve to be in the final, they could only beat what was in front of them. It's obvious that themselves, Barcelona, Liverpool and Chelsea are above the rest of Europe by a distance, with Barcelona imo being the best of the lot.
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 05, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
it is in Rome
And please God Barca make it through as they would win it, Chelsea stand no chance in the final.
Sure Chelsea had no chance against Liverpool either
Please point out where anyone said that.
Quote from: Bogball XV on May 06, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
Do you honestly believe that Utd at the top of their game would beat Barce at the top of their game??
You can point to last year and Barce v Utd, but imo there is no comparison - the players and Rijkaard had fallen out of love, Barce also lost to Real 4-1 last May to lose the title, this year beat the same side 2-6, does that mean they'll beat Utd by 4/5 in the final??
undoubtedly. United played nervously against barce last year and didn't realise the game was there to be won.
at their best, united would crucify barce on the break.
Quote from: The GAA on May 06, 2009, 12:06:32 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on May 06, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
Do you honestly believe that Utd at the top of their game would beat Barce at the top of their game??
You can point to last year and Barce v Utd, but imo there is no comparison - the players and Rijkaard had fallen out of love, Barce also lost to Real 4-1 last May to lose the title, this year beat the same side 2-6, does that mean they'll beat Utd by 4/5 in the final??
undoubtedly. United played nervously against barce last year and didn't realise the game was there to be won.
at their best, united would crucify barce on the break.
That's nonsense.
Undoubtedly? Crucify? Come off it.
To be honest it would probably come down to one goal in it. On paper Barca are perhaps a marginally better outfit, but little between the sides.
some bitter and twisted scousers around.!!
As a United fan, I would be much happier playing Barcelona then Chelsea. Chelsea are much better defencely and have one of the best managers in the world. Whereas I think United would cause Barce a lot of problems going forward, I think Hiddink is capable of coming up with a plan to stifle United.
If it was to be a United-Barca final, it would be the best defence in the world against the best attack in the world. Mouth-watering indeed
Quote from: The GAA on May 06, 2009, 12:06:32 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on May 06, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
Do you honestly believe that Utd at the top of their game would beat Barce at the top of their game??
You can point to last year and Barce v Utd, but imo there is no comparison - the players and Rijkaard had fallen out of love, Barce also lost to Real 4-1 last May to lose the title, this year beat the same side 2-6, does that mean they'll beat Utd by 4/5 in the final??
undoubtedly. United played nervously against barce last year and didn't realise the game was there to be won.
at their best, united would crucify barce on the break.
I agree that United should have been able to hammer Barce last year, but really, there is no comparison between last year's Barce and this year's. I honestly believe that Barce are a level above all of them now and I would fancy them very strongly in a final against Utd, hopefully we'll get the chance to find out!
Is that why the couldn't score at home againt chelsea? united have as good a defence as chelsea and a much more potent attacking unit.
crucify is probably the wong word but i am very confident united ould cut barce apart on the break.
Quote from: 118cmal on May 06, 2009, 12:18:41 PM
As a United fan, I would be much happier playing Barcelona then Chelsea. Chelsea are much better defencely and have one of the best managers in the world. Whereas I think United would cause Barce a lot of problems going forward, I think Hiddink is capable of coming up with a plan to stifle United.
If it was to be a United-Barca final, it would be the best defence in the world against the best attack in the world. Mouth-watering indeed
I dont care who we meet in the final. Two very good teams in different ways playing tonight in the other semi. I think United are able for either of them.
At least now deserving teams are left. You only want to be playing the best in the final and Chelsea and Barca are definitely up there.
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 12:04:25 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 05, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
it is in Rome
And please God Barca make it through as they would win it, Chelsea stand no chance in the final.
Sure Chelsea had no chance against Liverpool either
Please point out where anyone said that.
Guy who plays five-a-side with me, in Blake's in Enniskillen, the Friday night before the first leg, at about 11:05pm :P
Quote from: gorm agus bui on May 06, 2009, 12:11:28 PM
some bitter and twisted scousers around.!!
Said the bitterest of the Mancs bitterly.
Sorry if we think Barca and Chelsea might give yous a game, how dare us.
Quote from: The GAA on May 06, 2009, 12:23:14 PM
Is that why the couldn't score at home againt chelsea? united have as good a defence as chelsea and a much more potent attacking unit.
crucify is probably the wong word but i am very confident united ould cut barce apart on the break.
And I am very confident that if Barca's forward unit got into full flow they could cut United's defence apart. Neither scenario is likely.
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 06, 2009, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on May 06, 2009, 12:18:41 PM
As a United fan, I would be much happier playing Barcelona then Chelsea. Chelsea are much better defencely and have one of the best managers in the world. Whereas I think United would cause Barce a lot of problems going forward, I think Hiddink is capable of coming up with a plan to stifle United.
If it was to be a United-Barca final, it would be the best defence in the world against the best attack in the world. Mouth-watering indeed
I dont care who we meet in the final. Two very good teams in different ways playing tonight in the other semi. I think United are able for either of them.
At least now deserving teams are left. You only want to be playing the best in the final and Chelsea and Barca are definitely up there.
Eh?
I think United and Barca are by far the best teams in Europe at present and they have swapped the favorite's tag for the CL from the start of the season. I would love to see Barca through tonight as would most football fans I would imagine. It goes to show the bookies are not that far wrong..
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: gorm agus bui on May 06, 2009, 12:11:28 PM
some bitter and twisted scousers around.!!
Said the bitterest of the Mancs bitterly.
Sorry if we think Barca and Chelsea might give yous a game, how dare us.
Don't support UTD at all. Following Ipswich now. Not necessarily you Corn but some of the stuff from the L'pool followers is incredible
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 01:49:31 PM
I dont care who we meet in the final. Two very good teams in different ways playing tonight in the other semi. I think United are able for either of them.
At least now deserving teams are left. You only want to be playing the best in the final and Chelsea and Barca are definitely up there.
Eh?
Ya?
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 06, 2009, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 06, 2009, 01:49:31 PM
I dont care who we meet in the final. Two very good teams in different ways playing tonight in the other semi. I think United are able for either of them.
At least now deserving teams are left. You only want to be playing the best in the final and Chelsea and Barca are definitely up there.
Eh?
Ya?
You're going to have to elaborate. What do you mean only deserving teams left, just an odd comment.
is essien the most complete player in the world right now?
essien's a super player alright, are barce going to do the same as the last day, dominate but fail to break through chelsea's 10 men in the 18yd box tactic? I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think they're going to find a way through - it's a pity really and not very nice to look at, but then football's not supposed to be entertaining is it??
Chelsea need to score a second as soon as possible, can you imagine how nervy it will be if Chelsea are winning 1-0 going into the last 10 minutes? Barca haven't got a proper look at goal yet but it only takes one moment of genius from Messi, Xavi, Eto'o etc, and it's in the net. Should be a very interesting half.
Quote from: fred the red on May 06, 2009, 08:10:25 PM
is essien the most complete player in the world right now?
Not really, maybe if you have only been wathing the champions legue but some of his PL performances have been very ordinary since his comeback.
Big game player, definitely. Most complete player in the world? NO chance, that my friend is John O'Shea.
There we have it. It's Barca now. ;D
Great game to look forward to.
Barca missing Abidal and Alves - Sylvinho and Puyol to come in? They'll probably not be that weakened at the back. And Toure and Iniesta moving back into midfield, with Marquez and Henry returning, will definitely strengthen them.
Pity we'll be missing Fletcher, really need someone to run all night and not give Xavi and Iniesta a second to think.
Fletcher will be a big loss as this is the type of game we need him for, to break up the play of Xavi and Iniesta as you say. Best 2 sides in Europe so it should be a cracker! Had thought Chelsea would be better but Hiddink is a brilliant manager and would have set up Chelsea in such a way that would be very tough to break down. Barca will be very tough too though and have a few boys to return, should be a great game anyway!
Abidal is no miss as he was only playing tonight due to Puyols suspension. Alves will be missed.
Good versus Evil in the final now.
What was Barca's line up tonight and who played in what position?
The last time Everton beat united in the fa cup semi final, a Spanish side won the european cup, and liverpool won the league...
you gotta love fate ;D
Quote from: AFS on May 06, 2009, 09:59:25 PM
Great game to look forward to.
Barca missing Abidal and Alves - Sylvinho and Puyol to come in? They'll probably not be that weakened at the back. And Toure and Iniesta moving back into midfield, with Marquez and Henry returning, will definitely strengthen them.
Pity we'll be missing Fletcher, really need someone to run all night and not give Xavi and Iniesta a second to think.
Marquez is meant to be out for the season, Henry should be back though
Quote from: slow corner back on May 06, 2009, 10:27:13 PM
Marquez is meant to be out for the season, Henry should be back though
Did Yaya drop into centre half? Making there defence Alves, Yaya, Pique, Abidal?
So Alves and Abidal out, what the feck will it be for the final?
????? Puyol, Pique, Silvinho
Quote from: gawa316 on May 06, 2009, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on May 06, 2009, 10:27:13 PM
Marquez is meant to be out for the season, Henry should be back though
Did Yaya drop into centre half? Making there defence Alves, Yaya, Pique, Abidal?
So Alves and Abidal out, what the feck will it be for the final?
????? Puyol, Pique, Silvinho
Puyol at RB and Yaya in the middle then. Busquets or Keita in midfield?
Best two sides in Europe by a country mile. The rest are playing catch up. Look forward to a feast of football in Rome. Have my ticket sorted. Cannot wait. ;)
Quote from: gorm agus bui on May 06, 2009, 10:34:20 PM
Best two sides in Europe by a country mile. The rest are playing catch up. Look forward to a feast of football in Rome. Have my ticket sorted. Cannot wait. ;)
Not sure about that, each of uniteds games in europe this year have been pure keek to watch.
United will cream Barca in the final. Too many attacking threats, and a solid defence. Barcelona won't be able to handle them. I think it'll be comfortable. 3-1 or 3-0 United.
Viva John Terry,
Viva John Terry,
Thought he was going to Rome
Now he's stayin at home
Viva John Terry!
When will it be decided what top each team wears for the final?
Quote from: stiffler on May 06, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
When will it be decided what top each team wears for the final?
Fletcher's wearing this:
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01350/darren_fletcher_wi_1350104c.jpg)
Think Barca are the designated home team so will wear their home kit.
Quote from: stiffler on May 06, 2009, 10:37:29 PM
Quote from: gorm agus bui on May 06, 2009, 10:34:20 PM
Best two sides in Europe by a country mile. The rest are playing catch up. Look forward to a feast of football in Rome. Have my ticket sorted. Cannot wait. ;)
Not sure about that, each of uniteds games in europe this year have been pure keek to watch.
Green eyed monster continues to eat away at the bridesmaids!!
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 06, 2009, 10:40:42 PM
United will cream Barca in the final. Too many attacking threats, and a solid defence. Barcelona won't be able to handle them. I think it'll be comfortable. 3-1 or 3-0 United.
you'd get nice odds with the books for that, for what it's worth i think you're totally off the mark, but sure they're just opinions at this stage. I think the game will be similar to tonights, Barce will have all the play, Utd will defend deep and try and hit on the break, they've more up front than Chelsea right enough, but their back nine aren't as solid, so Barce should find a way through, Henry will also add a lot (I know he played last week) and Puyol will be a big addition, but Alves for all his poor crossing tonight will be a massive loss.
Quote from: Bogball XV on May 06, 2009, 11:49:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 06, 2009, 10:40:42 PM
United will cream Barca in the final. Too many attacking threats, and a solid defence. Barcelona won't be able to handle them. I think it'll be comfortable. 3-1 or 3-0 United.
you'd get nice odds with the books for that, for what it's worth i think you're totally off the mark, but sure they're just opinions at this stage. I think the game will be similar to tonights, Barce will have all the play, Utd will defend deep and try and hit on the break, they've more up front than Chelsea right enough, but their back nine aren't as solid, so Barce should find a way through, Henry will also add a lot (I know he played last week) and Puyol will be a big addition, but Alves for all his poor crossing tonight will be a massive loss.
I disagree, he was poor in both games against Chelsea, Malouda had prob his two best games for Chelsea on Alves. I said it after last weeks game also, Alves is an awful whinger, did you see the look of disdain he gave Eto'o tonight when another cross landed on the roof of the stand? Said it all about his team ethic I thought.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 06, 2009, 11:56:31 PMI disagree, he was poor in both games against Chelsea, Malouda had prob his two best games for Chelsea on Alves. I said it after last weeks game also, Alves is an awful whinger, did you see the look of disdain he gave Eto'o tonight when another cross landed on the roof of the stand? Said it all about his team ethic I thought.
Agree that he his end product was poor in both games, but he's looked fantastic for them in virtually every other game - as for giving eto'o a look of disdain, i'm not sure that all is well with eto'o and the rest of the squad - he wasn't exactly a team player himself last season, and these things aren't forgotten quickly.
Barce are 9/10 favs, with Man Utd 11/10 - both to lift the trophy.
United will win this trophy, get on now at 11/10
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 07, 2009, 12:07:38 AM
United will win this trophy, get on now at 11/10
Maybe, bookies are looking at massive losses on Barca apparently which is why they're favs. Personally, I'd rather see Barca win and think they'll manage a goal at least, so on that basis, I'll swerve (though secretly, I think they'll give Man Utd a trouncing - just not going to broadcast it over tinternet).
United will win 2-1 in extra time unfortunately.
Barca will have about 60% possession but won't score. Rooney and Ronaldo will make mincemeat of the rubbish Barca defence on the break and United will look like scoring at every set piece. Despite being totally outclassed in midfield, United will win comfortably, by a 2 goal margin.
Any word on iniesta or henry? Radio said this morning they were both very doubtful. Mind games?
Quote from: Hound on May 07, 2009, 08:01:50 AM
Barca will have about 60% possession but won't score. Rooney and Ronaldo will make mincemeat of the rubbish Barca defence on the break and United will look like scoring at every set piece. Despite being totally outclassed in midfield, United will win comfortably, by a 2 goal margin.
You'll get 20/1 for Man Utd to win 3-1
Can't wait. Hoping for a great game with the right result. Hopefully the referee won't ruin it the way he did in the Barca semi final. Thursday at work could be another long day 8)
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Quote from: Bogball XV on May 06, 2009, 11:49:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 06, 2009, 10:40:42 PM
United will cream Barca in the final. Too many attacking threats, and a solid defence. Barcelona won't be able to handle them. I think it'll be comfortable. 3-1 or 3-0 United.
you'd get nice odds with the books for that, for what it's worth i think you're totally off the mark, but sure they're just opinions at this stage. I think the game will be similar to tonights, Barce will have all the play, Utd will defend deep and try and hit on the break, they've more up front than Chelsea right enough, but their back nine aren't as solid, so Barce should find a way through, Henry will also add a lot (I know he played last week) and Puyol will be a big addition, but Alves for all his poor crossing tonight will be a massive loss.
I disagree, he was poor in both games against Chelsea, Malouda had prob his two best games for Chelsea on Alves. I said it after last weeks game also, Alves is an awful whinger, did you see the look of disdain he gave Eto'o tonight when another cross landed on the roof of the stand? Said it all about his team ethic I thought.
I agree with AZ, I think Utd will win it handily - I don't really understand why the bookies don't agree (they're usually pragmatic about these things). I'd agree that Barcelona will own the ball in the middle, and who knows what could happen if they score early. But the majority of their goals (that I've seen anyway) seem to hinge on getting the ball forward quickly to Messi/Henry - I don't see that happening against Utd (for much the same reasons as it didn't happen against Chelsea). They are not good at the back, and their midfield, for all its talent, does not protect the back four like they need to against an 'English' side. Chelsea (in the second leg) had just over 30% (yes 30%) possession, and yet created 4 decent chances (while Barcelona created 1 with nearly 70% possession). Granted, Utd don't have Chelsea's midfield, but they will 'get at' Barcelona's failings mercilessly - it could be a rout. I'll go with 3-0, though I'd love to see a classic.
I don't think we will win it easy but I hope we do. The nerves can't hack another handlin like 99. Barca won't be a push over so I would be happy with a wee 1-0 win. Who is offering the 20-1 for the 3-1 victory?
Stevie G hopes we win :o :o
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Videos/football/2009/05/21/Gerrard-will-cheer-on-United-video/ (http://www.setanta.com//uk/Videos/football/2009/05/21/Gerrard-will-cheer-on-United-video/)
Fair play Stevie :) :) :D
Uncle and cousin flew out today, another couple of lads I know also flew out this morning. Bit of a panic as it was reported that the authorities had decided to impose an alochol ban in the city. Very much doubt it will be enforced.
I hope they enjoy the trip but told them not to let the result get them down ;) ;D
Dont think it will be the classic that some say it will be
Utd will play it cagey & hit them on the break.
The Barca midfield is superior to Utd's so Utd will be more concerned about not giving them time & space to get quality ball into the Messi, Henry & Eto
With the way my pulse rate has been during the last two CL finals involving United part of me is not looking forward to tomorrow evening. A lot has and will be said about it so I'm not going to go on. I'd be confident that if United play up to the level of last years final or the two legs of the semi v. Arsenal that they will do it. It will be bloody tight though and if chances are created they will have to be taken. That's been United's main failing this season. If they are clinical tomorrow night it could be the difference.
The 2 best teams in the CL final. I´ll look forward to it.
There is nothing like a Barca team at their peak, for some scintillating football.
To read stuff here about Barca´s rubbish defense is mind boggling Last time both teams played each other, Man U were overly defensive and won by a goal. The so called best team in the world from the so called best league, going out on the field of play very cautiously against a team with a so called rubbish defense ::)
not mention Chelsea´s negative gameplan
This time the pointers are that this game will be very different, it should be.
Barca are a model perfection of an attacking team who go all out to win.
How any team can miss Iniesta, Henry as well as defenders Alves, Abidal and Marquez
and still be (slight) favourites is a wonder but because of those missing I think it is too close to call.
Iniesta in particular will be missed most as his link up play with Messi is from another dimension.
Quote from: Main Street on May 26, 2009, 01:07:28 PM
The 2 best teams in the CL final. I´ll look forward to it.
There is nothing like a Barca team at their peak, for some scintillating football.
To read stuff here about Barca´s rubbish defense is mind boggling Last time both teams played each other, Man U were overly defensive and won by a goal. The so called best team in the world from the so called best league, going out on the field of play very cautiously against a team with a so called rubbish defense ::)
not mention Chelsea´s negative gameplan
This time the pointers are that this game will be very different, it should be.
Barca are a model perfection of an attacking team who go all out to win.
How any team can miss Iniesta, Henry as well as defenders Alves, Abidal and Marquez
and still be (slight) favourites is a wonder but because of those missing I think it is too close to call.
Iniesta in particular will be missed most as his link up play with Messi is from another dimension.
Think they are both fit to play Main Street.
On nearly all the betting sites there's nothing separating the two teams. On betfair Utd are very slight favourites, but generally there's nothing between them.
Quote from: Massey-135 on May 26, 2009, 09:50:19 AM
I don't think we will win it easy but I hope we do. The nerves can't hack another handlin like 99. Barca won't be a push over so I would be happy with a wee 1-0 win. Who is offering the 20-1 for the 3-1 victory?
Ladbrokes...now offering 7/4 Barcelona and 13/8 MU. BTW With Chelsea v Liverpool in mind...4-4 is 100/1!
Barcelona are 7/4 & United 13/8 with Ladbrokes (90 mins) Both are 5/6 to lift the trophy.
Ah right, I was looking at odds checker and just seen there they didn't have the Ladbrokes odds up.
Quote from: bingobus on May 26, 2009, 11:16:17 AM
Uncle and cousin flew out today, another couple of lads I know also flew out this morning. Bit of a panic as it was reported that the authorities had decided to impose an alochol ban in the city. Very much doubt it will be enforced.
I hope they enjoy the trip but told them not to let the result get them down ;) ;D
Aye they always try and enforce this but its only in the main streets of the city and mainly outside the pubs u cant drink. Experienced it myself, they usually are grand about serving inside as long as you stay inside! Friend flys over in the mornin, forked out a shed load for one ticket and flights, but hopefully it will be worth it for him! He was in Moscow last year and is still paying of the costs from that til now haha. Heard theres a tented village sort of place been set up about a mile outside the city centre with English catering etc to accomodate the utd fans and hopefully keep them all together inside it before/after the game, and also if they dont have a ticket!!
I worked with a few Italians once and they said that they have loads of rules and laws - and they like it that way - its just that no-one really takes much heed of them!
Heard on the Radio there that David Gill believes United will not sign Tevez as he is too expensive.
Its really reassuring that someone with the proven knowledge of the game that David Gill has is making these decisions....
This is interesting on Paddy Power. 'The defending champions 7/1' has to be value :D
QuoteITV Commentary Cliché Hide Singles Only.
Win Only
90 mins Only.
Applies to the first of the listed clichés which is used by the ITV commentators during the match.
Exact phrase must be used.
Cliches only apply while the match is in progress.
Any cliché used before the match or at half-time will not count
Darren Fletcher 6/1
The greatest manager in the history of British football 16/1
At the end of the day 25/1
1999 7/1
United always score 16/1
Total football 25/1
The defending champions 7/1
End to end stuff 16/1
Hero of the night 25/1
That night in Barcelona 10/1
Fizzed just wide 16/1
Villain of the piece 25/1
Gladiators 12/1
There's danger here 16/1
Roman coliseum 28/1
100 goals 12/1
That night against Barcelona 20/1
A clumsy challenge by Scholes 33/1
What a goal! 14/1
He's gone down a little easily there 20/1
Off their perch 40/1
He'll be disappointed with that 14/1
Stuff of dreams 20/1
Balmy, balmy night 40/1
One of his stepovers 14/1
The best player in the world 20/1
Fergie's looking at his watch 50/1
Nervous moments 16/1
Emperor of Rome 20/1
There's Sir Bobby 66/1
He's missed it! 16/1
Squeaky bum time 20/1
Football, bloody hell 66/1
Two footballing giants 16/1
First to retain the trophy in the Champions League era 25/1
The neutrals final 16/1
He is human after all 25/1
I would say Ferguson will have some input into whether they keep him or not and has said that they wont be paying the fee his advisers want.
9/5 on both Barca and United in Tommy French Bookies in Lurgan if youse fancy a better price...
Have to go with United on this one myself...
2-1 United
Ronaldo, Carrick then Eto'o scoring
Anyone fancy Barca, we have just upped our price to 15/8 on them now... All you Lurgan lads lump on
ONL are they both still 5/6 outright with Ladbrokes?
Quote from: full back on May 26, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
Dont think it will be the classic that some say it will be
Utd will play it cagey & hit them on the break.
The Barca midfield is superior to Utd's so Utd will be more concerned about not giving them time & space to get quality ball into the Messi, Henry & Eto
I think it'll be a borefest.
I'd like to see United win but I've a feeling barca will take it, 2-1.
Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2009, 07:18:13 PM
ONL are they both still 5/6 outright with Ladbrokes?
yeah thats Ladbrokes prices, we have them both 10/11 though outright, and we take those prices from Stan James... Think we will have to put ours up to evens though as the ones down the street have them at that...
I think United will win 2-0. I seen nothing from Barcelona that suggests that they have the attributes needed to win a EC, bar a shed load of luck.
I also believe that Fergie will out fox the inexperience of Guardiola.
Anyhow.... I'll be watching Holby City. :'(
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 26, 2009, 11:48:08 PM
I think United will win 2-0. I seen nothing from Barcelona that suggests that they have the attributes needed to win a EC, bar a shed load of luck.
I also believe that Fergie will out fox the inexperience of Guardiola.
Anyhow.... I'll be watching Holby City. :'(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHOf3s70w-c
anyone watch the build up programme tonight on itv about the match? seemd to hype up messi and ronaldo a lot. hope it doesn't dissapoint!
I'll be tuning in at 7:44pm...can't stand all the pre match shite
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 26, 2009, 07:33:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2009, 07:18:13 PM
ONL are they both still 5/6 outright with Ladbrokes?
yeah thats Ladbrokes prices, we have them both 10/11 though outright, and we take those prices from Stan James... Think we will have to put ours up to evens though as the ones down the street have them at that...
Put both at evens? Leaving nothing for yourselves? Think I might have a bet on United. I'm loath to say it but I fancy them strongly.
2-1 to united
Quote from: supersub on May 27, 2009, 01:35:42 AM
anyone watch the build up programme tonight on itv about the match? seemd to hype up messi and ronaldo a lot. hope it doesn't dissapoint!
The whole thing was terrible. Gray and Redknapp may not be morons but they did a fierce good impression of two last night.
QuoteTo read stuff here about Barca´s rubbish defense is mind boggling Last time both teams played each other, Man U were overly defensive and won by a goal. The so called best team in the world from the so called best league, going out on the field of play very cautiously against a team with a so called rubbish defense
not mention Chelsea´s negative gameplan
Barca's defence isn't rubbish, it's just not at the standard required at this level. Puyol is old and has lost his pace, Marquez is a converted midfielder, low on confidence and Pique has returned to Barcelona after a period in a game (England) that didn't suit him. Abidal is a good fullback who keeps Evra out of the French national team, and Alvez is an attacking left back in the Brazilian tradition. They've conceded 34 goals in 37 games in La Liga, Utd (arguably in a stronger, more attack-minded league) have conceded 24 in 38 (including the April blip). [As an aside, Chelsea conceded 24 and Liverpool 27.] Barcelona won La Liga because they were able to nullify threats to their defence by winning and keeping possession in midfield - the UEFA stats for this years tournament show Barca topping for possession (62% average, while Utd are down the table with 54%), you can imagine it's even higher in La Liga. In the same stats, Barca come highest for goals scored, Utd come top for least goals conceded (Barca are down the order a bit). Chelsea were unlucky not to beat them (though no-one was sorry they didn't because of the way they went about it), but it's clear that when facing an accomplished defence, Barca will struggle. In fact, their main threat against Chelsea was Alvez's crosses (which is an English, rather than a continental tactic). I've been trying to imagine a way that Barca can beat Utd, but I can't find it - Utd's power is in moving quickly forward in possession, Barca don't have the armoury in midfield or defence to contain that, especially in a 4-3-3 setup. They (Barca) are very good to watch when they have the ball - however, I don't think they'll win tonight.
Sky reporting that a United fan has been stabbed in Rome :o
Vidic first goal barca to win 2-1
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 27, 2009, 10:46:30 AM
QuoteTo read stuff here about Barca´s rubbish defense is mind boggling Last time both teams played each other, Man U were overly defensive and won by a goal. The so called best team in the world from the so called best league, going out on the field of play very cautiously against a team with a so called rubbish defense
not mention Chelsea´s negative gameplan
Barca's defence isn't rubbish, it's just not at the standard required at this level. Puyol is old and has lost his pace, Marquez is a converted midfielder, low on confidence and Pique has returned to Barcelona after a period in a game (England) that didn't suit him. Abidal is a good fullback who keeps Evra out of the French national team, and Alvez is an attacking left back in the Brazilian tradition. They've conceded 34 goals in 37 games in La Liga, Utd (arguably in a stronger, more attack-minded league) have conceded 24 in 38 (including the April blip). [As an aside, Chelsea conceded 24 and Liverpool 27.] Barcelona won La Liga because they were able to nullify threats to their defence by winning and keeping possession in midfield - the UEFA stats for this years tournament show Barca topping for possession (62% average, while Utd are down the table with 54%), you can imagine it's even higher in La Liga. In the same stats, Barca come highest for goals scored, Utd come top for least goals conceded (Barca are down the order a bit). Chelsea were unlucky not to beat them (though no-one was sorry they didn't because of the way they went about it), but it's clear that when facing an accomplished defence, Barca will struggle. In fact, their main threat against Chelsea was Alvez's crosses (which is an English, rather than a continental tactic). I've been trying to imagine a way that Barca can beat Utd, but I can't find it - Utd's power is in moving quickly forward in possession, Barca don't have the armoury in midfield or defence to contain that, especially in a 4-3-3 setup. They (Barca) are very good to watch when they have the ball - however, I don't think they'll win tonight.
Abidal and Alves are both suspended
I'm aware of that.
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 27, 2009, 10:46:30 AM
but it's clear that when facing an accomplished defence, Barca will struggle. In fact, their main threat against Chelsea was Alvez's crosses (which is an English, rather than a continental tactic).
If a top team like Chelsea plays cautious defensive negative, even at home, yes they will be hard to break down.
QuoteBarca's defence isn't rubbish, it's just not at the standard required at this level.
You will not find any stats to support that :)
This level is the final. What higher level can you get ?
Last year they missed out by a goal to a very cautious Man U.
The year before they won it and now they are in the final again this year.
What level are you talking about?
Hang on, Chelsea created four or five chances with just over 30% possession - Barca didn't really create a decent chance, they scored a half-chance. To me, that suggest that Chelsea were right in their approach, strategically anyway. While no-one would be applauding them for the way they played, you'd have to admit they were unlucky not to progress.
I'm not sure what you're on about in relation to levels - this is the highest level for a club match; my point was that while their defence might do ok in La Liga, they're more likely to be found out tonight.
Maybe OurNail you could give me some advice on this one- I have a 200 euro bet riding on the game tonight.I bet at the start of the year that United would not win the Champs League with the same fella that I handed 200 Euro to this time last year.Im not confident enough of Barca to leave it so Im goona have to cover it some way.Last year I had 100 on Utd to lift it and 20 on 1-1 in 90 minutes which covered me.This year I was thinking 200 straight on United to lift it,but I see the price for them to win in Et and Penalties is very appealing. It would be nice to be up money but at the end of the day Id prefer to be not down money.
What would a bookie do in this case?
See Paddy Power's shops in the north are going 15/1 for Ronaldo and Messi to score in 90 mins.
I'll have a bit of that..
1-0 to ManU is the most likely score. Barca owning the ball but creating nothing, Roo or Ron causing problems when they get the ball and creating the goal. United sit back and soak it up and may even nick a 2nd at the end.
For Barca to score it'd have to be a screamer or fluke or a highly unusual defenive error from Rio, Vidic or VDS. From a United viewpoint I'd be a liitle bit wary of Ferdinand's extended absence. Surprised that Ferguson didnt play him v Hull.
An early goal for Barca would make it a fantastic game. If they get 2-0 up in the first half I'll be putting €100 on United immediately.
QuoteHang on, Chelsea created four or five chances with just over 30% possession - Barca didn't really create a decent chance, they scored a half-chance. To me, that suggest that Chelsea were right in their approach, strategically anyway. While no-one would be applauding them for the way they played, you'd have to admit they were unlucky not to progress
As I said, when a top team like Chelsea play defensively they will be very hard to break down. chances will be at a premium. Stats won't reflect the nature of the game. Over both legs, I am of the opinion that Barca were worthy winners.
QuoteI'm not sure what you're on about in relation to levels - this is the highest level for a club match; my point was that while their defence might do ok in La Liga, they're more likely to be found out tonight.
I am on about the glaringly obvious, that Barca define the top level of football and have done so outside the La Liga for years now, even with their current defense.
What will hurt them tonight is that they have 3 defenders missing.
Tempted to lump onto a thriller and go for 3-2 to united.
Make no mistake, as good as United's defence has been i fully expect Barcelona to score and create chances, as i do Man United, the pleasing thing from a United perspective is the form Roo and Ron have run into and they could be the match winners
Really looking forward to it
Work is so f**king slow today >:(
Honestly dont give a flying fcuk what sort of game it is as long as the result is good
4-3 defeat is no consolation
1-0 borefest will do
The hype for this match is unreal, the BBC website started the pre-match build up at 9 this morning!
I'd be fairly confident about the match, don't really know why though! I'd say 2-1 or at a stretch 3-1 to Utd. Think it'll be similar to Arsenal 2nd leg, Utd score fairly early, and Barca will need to chase it. Utd grab another to go two up and Barca get one back. Utd may or may not get another late one when Barca are throwing everything forward. First goal is crucial though, if Barca get it they're not the type of team that you want to be leaving yourself open at the back against.
But again, I really don't care about the score or quality of match as long as the result is right.
Ok lads, just for a bit of craic lets have everyones predictions, score & scorers
we'll see tomorrow who came the closest
heres mine
Barcelona -2
Messi (18,67)
Manchester United -1
Rooney (54)
Barcelona 1
(Xavi 14)
Man U 2
(Park 56, Tevez 88)
Barcelona 1
(Messi 4.33)
Man U 3
(Ronaldo 23.14, Ronaldo 40.19, Tevez 82.58)
Barcelona 1 (Henry 53)
Man Utd 3 (Rooney 12, Vidic 43, Ronaldo 86)
Okay so the third goal may be optimistic but so what! :P
Barcelona 1 (Iniesta 26)
Man Utd 1 (Giggs 87)
One penalty missed in normal time.
John O'Shea with the winner for United in ET
8)
I can't believe people are putting down the minutes of the goals! Mystic Megs!
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on May 27, 2009, 03:48:19 PM
John O'Shea with the winner for United in ET
:D I would absolutely love that! It would cement his legendary status!
Barca 2-1 Man U
Eto'o and Iniesta for Barca
Vidic for united
Barsa 3-1 Manyoo
O'Shea to score an OG to cement his legendary status with opposition fans.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
I can't believe people are putting down the minutes of the goals! Mystic Megs!
Its only a bit of craic Doogie. Loosen up that tie there man. Let the hair down. Give it a try who knows maybe you'll crack a smile!
United 2 (Ronaldo and Rooney) Barca 1 (Eto'o)
Barcelona 2 (Messi with a sublime chip from the left han..no sorry right hand side of the area after a pass from Xavi - 28 mins, Toure - a storming header from a corner low to the keepers right - 67 mins)
Man Utd 1 (Ronaldo penalty 40 mins)
Barca 1 (Henry 17)
United 2 (Ronaldo 43, Tevez 78)
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 04:08:03 PM
Barcelona 2 (Messi with a sublime chip from the left han..no sorry right hand side of the area after a pass from Xavi - 28 mins, Toure - a storming header from a corner low to the keepers right - 67 mins)
Man Utd 1 (Ronaldo penalty 40 mins)
thats the spirit, get on to paddy power and have a 5er on it, you'll be laughin
As a united fan, this is the most confident I have been of winning a champions league final.
Eventhough United have beaten munich and chelsea in previous finals, they have only really played some football for about 45minutes of these two games.
Hopefully they will go at it hell for leather tonight.
Great to see John O shea getting rewarded with a start for a great season. 90 more minutes of solid defending and he can be well happy with himself.
Man U 2 (Ronaldo, Tevez) Barce 1 (Iniesta)
0-0 and the game to be won on penalties. by who????
not sure to be honest.
Quote from: longball on May 27, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
I can't believe people are putting down the minutes of the goals! Mystic Megs!
Its only a bit of craic Doogie. Loosen up that tie there man. Let the hair down. Give it a try who knows maybe you'll crack a smile!
Too right DB... sure even UEFA were doing this before the semi-final.
anyone got a stream online of the game?
Unfortunately for Man Utd Barcelona are not Stoke or Hull and the winner will probably be Barcelona. That is why Man Utd finished ahead of Liverpool, because they got results against teams like these all the time. They did not fare as well against teams like Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City ie teams with a bit of quality. They lost half the games against these team and none are as good as Barcelona in my opinion.
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 27, 2009, 05:08:16 PM
Unfortunately for Man Utd Barcelona are not Stoke or Hull and the winner will probably be Barcelona. That is why Man Utd finished ahead of Liverpool, because they got results against teams like these all the time. They did not fare as well against teams like Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City ie teams with a bit of quality. They lost half the games against these team and none are as good as Barcelona in my opinion.
Totally agree... except they beat Chelsea. WUM.
....and Man City :-\
and Arsenal twice in the semis...
didn't beat Everton in the FA cup semi right enuff :D
Barcelona 2 Messi, Henry
Man u 1 Ronaldo
Then all 3 of my bets will be up
Ronaldo and messi both score 15/1
Messi first goal 7/1
Barcelona win 2-1 17/2
Fiver on each
Now I will be happy with that!!
Barcelona 1 (Messi 67) Man Utd 2 (Ronaldo 90+6 (Pen) (Ronaldo 90+8 (Pen)
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 05:18:25 PM
and Arsenal twice in the semis...
You get my drfit though, they always win against teams in the bottom half of the table but are not nearly as effective against the better teams. Everton in league and cup have got results against United as well as Villa. I do not know if United will have the quality on a big pitch in Rome in a showcase final where the ref will not let them rough up the oppositon players premier league style to get the ball off Barcelona and make chances for the second best Portuguese speaking player in Manchester or Messis understudy on the Argentine team to score. Uniteds only hope is if Rooney catches fire and scores a couple of individual efforts.
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 27, 2009, 05:42:51 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 05:18:25 PM
and Arsenal twice in the semis...
You get my drfit though, they always win against teams in the bottom half of the table but are not nearly as effective against the better teams. Everton in league and cup have got results against United as well as Villa. I do not know if United will have the quality on a big pitch in Rome in a showcase final where the ref will not let them rough up the oppositon players premier league style to get the ball off Barcelona and make chances for the second best Portuguese speaking player in Manchester or Messis understudy on the Argentine team to score. Uniteds only hope is if Rooney catches fire and scores a couple of individual efforts.
We get your drift, and you are wrong. Barcelona won a league whose second best team got utterly stuffed by the second best team in Man Utd's league. As Norf Tyrone says, WUM.
Hope UTD they get stuffed but Barcelona didn't set the world on fire against Chelsea. Is an intriguing prospect and hopefully won't be a penalty kick competition to decide it. Totally demeans a cup final win tho didn't mind when Everton beat them in FA cup semi-final and of course is great craic when England lose.
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2009, 05:37:56 PM
Barcelona 1 (Messi 67) Man Utd 2 (Ronaldo 90+6 (Pen) (Ronaldo 90+8 (Pen)
Excellent minder :D :D
Away to the pub.. Enjoy the match all :) :)
Utd 1-0
Rooney
F** it... here goes 2-0 Barcelona (Messi and someone else)
Barca 9 (Henry 3, 17, 54, Silvinho 31, 34, 35, Toure 36, 57, 90)
Utd 0
Quote from: ONeill on May 27, 2009, 06:09:02 PM
Barca 9 (Henry 3, 17, 54, Silvinho 31, 34, 35, Toure 36, 57, 90)
Utd 0
What none for Hleb?
come on barca ;D ;D ;D
starting to get very nervy!!
According to some spurious made up news agency Rooney is a doubt
fergie slightly cautios 2 night no tevez. think messi 1st goal good bet.
Tick, tock, tick f**king tock, hurry up FFS
United have never lost a Champions League Final - that ees ay fact.
Barcelona: Valdes, Puyol, Toure, Pique, Sylvinho, Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Eto'o, Henry. Subs: Pinto, Caceres, Gudjohnsen, Krkic, Keita, Rodriguez, Muniesa.
Man Utd: Van der Sar, O'Shea, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs, Park, Ronaldo, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Berbatov, Nani, Scholes, Rafael, Evans, Tevez.
No suprises...except neville not even on the bench!
Quote from: supersub on May 27, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
Barcelona: Valdes, Puyol, Toure, Pique, Sylvinho, Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Eto'o, Henry. Subs: Pinto, Caceres, Gudjohnsen, Krkic, Keita, Rodriguez, Muniesa.
Man Utd: Van der Sar, O'Shea, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs, Park, Ronaldo, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Berbatov, Nani, Scholes, Rafael, Evans, Tevez.
No suprises...except neville not even on the bench!
No place for sentiment
Let battle commence..........
Come on the reds
What the hell is Willy Windsor doing there? He is a Villa fan!
suppose so!
begrudged goodluck to utd! may the best footballing team win!
Bad start by Barca keeper.
Pitch looks extremely fast.
uh oh
United need to calm the heads before they find themselves 2 down
Jaysus. Takes Barca 9 mins 15 secs to finally make two consecutive forward passes, then seconds later its 1-0. Vidic and VDS both poor for it.
But Rooney and Ronaldo will destroy that Barca defence at will
George Hamilton didn't sound too happy about that goal. You think he'd at least pretend to be neutral.
United out to 3/1 to win in 90 mins in the betting-in-running.
Very tempting.
Quote from: Hound on May 27, 2009, 08:01:39 PM
Jaysus. Takes Barca 9 mins 15 secs to finally make two consecutive forward passes, then seconds later its 1-0. Vidic and VDS both poor for it.
But Rooney and Ronaldo will destroy that Barca defence at will
yea as the game goes on i think their energy will be too much for that back 4, espeically on the wings!
Quote from: supersub on May 27, 2009, 08:13:03 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 27, 2009, 08:01:39 PM
Jaysus. Takes Barca 9 mins 15 secs to finally make two consecutive forward passes, then seconds later its 1-0. Vidic and VDS both poor for it.
But Rooney and Ronaldo will destroy that Barca defence at will
yea as the game goes on i think their energy will be too much for that back 4, espeically on the wings!
They want to get going then because they look dead.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 27, 2009, 08:07:55 PM
United out to 3/1 to win in 90 mins in the betting-in-running.
Very tempting.
There is always a danger of scoring too early against United. Still expect them to win comfortably, 3-1.
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2009, 08:14:05 PM
Barca will score again before half time and it will be game over.
i'm with you on that one
hope your right, could be a handy wee bet there to place before half time!! :D
The game is passing Giggs by, an odd selection with Scholes - who can hold onto the ball at least - on the bench.
Still think Rooney & Ronaldo can tear strips of that Barca back 4 but if it goes 2-0 it might be too much for utd.
Tevez and Berbatov to be on by the 60th minute. I don't see a 2nd Barca goal before full-time. 8)
it's quite boring now
Odds for a Utd win up to 5/1.
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2009, 08:25:47 PM
Jaypers, United are shit.
The halftime hairdryer will sort that out and they'll have equalised by 60th minute.
back to the orthadox formation for utd...things musnt be goin as planned for auld fergie
utd might get abit more than that in the changin room now!!
It's a dreadful 35 mins for Utd.
Giggs, Carrick, Rooney, Ronaldo, Parke are stinking the joint.
Tevez and Scholes need to come in asap.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2009, 08:35:20 PM
It's a dreadful 35 mins for Utd.
Giggs, Carrick, Rooney, Ronaldo, Parke are stinking the joint.
Tevez and Scholes need to come in asap.
And anderson, and van der sar!
they're already playin :D
japan playin chile wonder how thats goin....
Unfair on Ronaldo and possibly Rooney, they are at least showing for it up front. Midfield non-existent, Carrick needs to remember who he is up against, tried to flick it round xavi just on half time!
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 08:21:32 PM
The game is passing Giggs by, an odd selection with Scholes - who can hold onto the ball at least - on the bench.
Well at least Giggs is being matched by that other has-been Henry. Might as well be 10 v 10.
As for Scholes, he could well have one big game left in him and on his day is a terrific goalscorer as everyone knows. Hasnt done much this season though.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 08:25:21 PM
it's quite boring now
Two bests teams in the world they say..... ???
You can't carry 4 passengers in a game like this. Carrick, Anderson, O'Se and park aren't world class.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2009, 08:35:20 PM
It's a dreadful 35 mins for Utd.
Giggs, Carrick, Rooney, Ronaldo, Parke are stinking the joint.
Tevez and Scholes need to come in asap.
looks as if they have been smoking it ffs Rooney just in the wrong position
I have said all year that VDS is not a top class keeper and think tonight highlights this again. Messi/Xavi/Iniesta all wonderful players, but BUT still think Utd can turn it around given how poor the Barca back 4 have been.
Station your right bate the pick a them.
Barca are making Utd look second rate. Utd need some steel in midfield as Barca are just walking around them, I don't think utd have such a player on the bench so its a barca win for me
Its certainly not been a boring game.
United's midfield (as the few knowledgable Utd fans have acknowledged - though most haven't) has been muck all season. Throughout the season its been their worst midfield for at least a decade. Still hasnt stopped them winning all ahead of them.
With Barca's shocking defence and United's great attackers, I still fancy them.
Quote from: Hound on May 27, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
Its certainly not been a boring game.
United's midfield (as the few knowledgable Utd fans have acknowledged - though most haven't) has been muck all season. Throughout the season its been their worst midfield for at least a decade. Still hasnt stopped them winning all ahead of them.
With Barca's shocking defence and United's great attackers, I still fancy them.
Ach it has
Tevez on for Anderson. Thank god, we need him on quick, was afraid Fergie might leave it for 20 minutes.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 08:47:21 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 27, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
Its certainly not been a boring game.
United's midfield (as the few knowledgable Utd fans have acknowledged - though most haven't) has been muck all season. Throughout the season its been their worst midfield for at least a decade. Still hasnt stopped them winning all ahead of them.
With Barca's shocking defence and United's great attackers, I still fancy them.
Ach it has
Hound must follow cricket ;D
tit shdua scored there, utd let off! could be costly for barca
O'Shea very sloppy, the side of his game he still cannot eradicate.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 08:53:17 PM
O'Shea very sloppy, the side of his game he still cannot eradicate.
He's got a contract until 2012.
iniesta is running this game like i dunno what. come on barca put this one in..
ffs!!!!!
Munich hit the post twice at 1-0 up in 1999...
United are all over the place out there.
Bayern hit the post a few times before utd won it at the death
Barca dominating, 1-0 up and hitting the woodwork.
Looks like Bayern all over again.
EDIT - beaten to it!
haha use lads listening to itv?! u never know could be the same as fisrt ten mins in 1st half n utd could get them on the break
Quote from: supersub on May 27, 2009, 08:58:24 PM
haha use lads listening to itv?! u never know could be the same as fisrt ten mins in 1st half n utd could get them on the break
You ok supersub. Dont let the occasion get to you.
im grand, nothings gettin to me, im a pool man :D
They are missing Fletcher big time (didn't think I'd ever say that!)
still think they're gonna win tho.....
rte are 5 seconds ahead than itv. means fcuk all i know
Berbatov will hardly help matters ???
FFS this match is flying by!
Quote from: thebandit on May 27, 2009, 09:01:56 PM
They are missing Fletcher big time (didn't think I'd ever say that!)
still think they're gonna win tho.....
Wondered how long we would wait until we got that one! Ray and George are great on RTE.
Utd still in with a chance they have not even got their penalty yet.
Well Tevez's workrate did f**k all, might as well throw on someone who can control the ball. Just need to get it up that far now...
boring game, think'll turn it over to the Apprentice
priceless ronaldo n puyol collide and ronaldo reacts as if puyol is play acting haha
You seem to be enjoying this supersub. It is not over yet.
Get f**king in there
Ferdinand is having a shocker.
thats it
Holy f**k, goodnight Utd.
What a ball and what an unreal header
We had that well planned station. ;)
He has really shown his class tonight.
Brilliant!
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 27, 2009, 09:12:44 PM
You seem to be enjoying this supersub. It is not over yet.
well i am now!
giggs has played his last game
Messi end for Ushited.
arsenal would have give them a better game
As per usual ronaldo tracks back with pure desire >:(
Dreadful tackle from Scholes.
Right out of the Paul Scholes school of tackling.
time to retire a few?
Absolute joy to watch, there could be a red card in Ronaldo or Rooney yet.
the apprentices are on live tv selling stuff, hilarious
Them Catalans are very smart people, they are even singing english songs, 'Championes' hats off to them.
not a bad clean sheet for the makeshift back four
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 09:28:04 PM
Absolute joy to watch, there could be a red card in Ronaldo or Rooney yet.
Barca brilliant alright. Given United a footballing lesson and a thorough rogering. Just passed the ball around United's pedestrian and one-paced midfield.
2 -0 in all honesty could have been 5. Barca too good.
United's midfield just not good enough.
As good a display in a final I have ever seen.
(http://www.thetravelrag.com/admin/rte/my_documents/my_pictures/SML_barcelona-football-club-badge-fc-barcelona-poster.jpg)
Thank God that crap is over. Roll on Sunday.
Messi in tears, Ronaldo stole his Ball(on d'or)
(http://propagandaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/090314-099-man_utd_liverpool-version-3.jpg)
ronaldo in tears, realised messi can live up to the hype
Blaugrana al vent
Un crit valent
Tenim un nom
Que sap tot hom
BARÇA BARÇA BARÇA!!!!!
COPA LIGA Y CHAMPIONS!!!!!
The fireworks are going off all over the place here, goona be a long night ;D
best team won on the night,utd passing was awful! fu2k i,m sick some big names never got into game
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45833000/jpg/_45833213_barcacelebrate_afp766.jpg)
Nice to see Terry Henry winning the big yin. Terrible back four Barca have ;D
Missed the first half. What happened for the first Barca goal? Heard Vidic was turned inside out (getting fairly common now) and Van der Sar didn't do too well either.
Martin Tyler just said Ferguson is "always dignified in defeat".............On the glue i doubt
United have took their oil anyway, Ronaldo gracious enough there.
Berlusconi just after asking William for Kate Middleton's number.
Is all that why the english prem is the best in the world??? Or is it just the best because it pays the highest wages ???
I know some Utd fans are pissed right now, but as a Liverpool fan if we repeat your season next year we won't shut up for years...
A victory for football
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2009, 09:47:29 PM
Martin Tyler just said Ferguson is "always dignified in defeat".............On the glue i doubt
bullsh1te! makes the most excuses ever! dont see what he could say but accept it this evening though!
Barcelona are more than a club and all soccer supporters will recognise that as a club they have no equals. They play the game the right way, they do not whore their jersey to the highest bidder, they stand for all that is good about the game. I am delighted they have won and am still in awe at their display.
A few punters were well off the mark with their predictions in the first few pages of this thread - not being one to gloat or nuffin ;)
Delighted to see this, the amount of shite that's been written about the brilliance of the premiership (yeah, they're solid, but who can watch most of the shite they produce) and how Man Utd were going to win this easily (i was surprised by this, but it was a feeling that seemed to develop over the past week).
Great to see Messi do the biz too, we might not hear as much about his never having scored against an english team now too?
I'm also glad that the fallacy about Utd having the world's bestest ever squad has been put to bed now too.
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you fcukin beauty;
this is for all the manc w*nks who continually hijacked the liverpool thread all season with their sh1te;
not so nice now lads; suck it up. suck it up
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 27, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you fcukin beauty;
this is for all the manc w*nks who continually hijacked the liverpool thread all season with their sh1te;
not so nice now lads; suck it up. suck it up
One thread is enough for your grace
Vidic was a collossus tonight
For Barcelona
try 3 doogie
not for all you mancs; just the tw*ts always sh1te stirrin on the pool thread;
sralex has given me enough enjoyment; away to watch srallen
I'll try and post without rubbing it in. I am delighted, as I am anytime United lose, but i'll try to remain impartial.
I have never, ever seen United outplayed like that in my life. Liverpool winning 4-1 was more a case of taking their chances, but this was a different level. United never looked up for it, which was a massive surprise.
Evra mouthing off about being the world's best left-back was an accident waiting to happen, was at fault for two goals.
VDS poor for the first goal, but he kept yous in it.
O'Shea steady enough, Henry at full tilt would have skinned him but he didn't look interested.
Rio and especially Vidic had shockers for me. The Serbian is not as infalliable as people think.
Evra had one of his worst days in a United shirt.
Park was amongst your best. He didn;t do much and should have scored in the second minute. But he certainly made more interceptions that most and cut out numerous attacks.
Anderson - brutal
Carrick - a torrid end to a torrid second half of the season.
Giggs - even worse
Ronney - Shocking. I enjoy watching him play football thropugh begrudging eyes. But it never clicked. Lost possession more times tonight that he probably did the whole season.
Ronaldo - not in Messi's class but still your best threat, unlucky a few times.
Ferguson played a mjor role in this loss. Despite my protestings in the Pool thread I still think Tevez is uinreal - hge should have started. You cant expect a player to come off the bench and automatically change the game, it is asking a lot.
Why didn't he spoil the midfield? That's how you play against Barca, push play further up the field by crowding and pressurise the defence. The Barca defenders had a shocking amount of space tonight, serious pressing and they may have crumbled.
Valdes has little to do. Was Ronaldo's free the only shot on target?
Slyvinhio and Puyol were poor in the first half but they owned the second period.
Toure was dodgy at the start but steadied. Pique (sp?) was brilliant.
Henry, as stated, was dire, Eto'o was decent but drifted.
Xavi and Iniesta are genius personified. Everyone will talk about Messi but Iniesta was sensational.
Messi is the best player in the world.
United wil lregroup no problem, still a very good season - just no spark tonight.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 09:48:40 PM
United have took their oil anyway, Ronaldo gracious enough there.
Berlusconi just after asking William for Kate Middleton's number.
V Good Doogie...only laugh I have had tonight.
Best team won by a mile.
And another thing, I have gotten about 10 joke texts already (Most by ONL trying to make out he is not a United fan), but regardless if you are on the receiving end or on the right end of these texts, they are never funny. They are always poor jokes!
you have to hold your hands up and say the better team won, end of story, they did.
shit happens. sad but life goes on
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Quote from: Capt Pat on May 27, 2009, 05:42:51 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 27, 2009, 05:18:25 PM
and Arsenal twice in the semis...
You get my drfit though, they always win against teams in the bottom half of the table but are not nearly as effective against the better teams. Everton in league and cup have got results against United as well as Villa. I do not know if United will have the quality on a big pitch in Rome in a showcase final where the ref will not let them rough up the oppositon players premier league style to get the ball off Barcelona and make chances for the second best Portuguese speaking player in Manchester or Messis understudy on the Argentine team to score. Uniteds only hope is if Rooney catches fire and scores a couple of individual efforts.
We get your drift, and you are wrong. Barcelona won a league whose second best team got utterly stuffed by the second best team in Man Utd's league. As Norf Tyrone says, WUM.
It turns out I was right by a country mile and to be quite frank I am not surprised. It wasn't even close.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 27, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you fcukin beauty;
this is for all the manc w*nks who continually hijacked the liverpool thread all season with their sh1te;
not so nice now lads; suck it up. suck it up
they still won more than us ???
Good man Capt Pat, on the spot. Absolutely made up watching that, delighted with a result. Couldn't understand the cockiness on of the united posts and I beleive their own cockiness that they are the best team on planet, not even close I'm afraid. Couldn't beleive Ronney had the towel thrown in with 10 to go, turned his back at one stage and strolled back after a Barca jersey.
Also they showed their true class in the stadium, their end was practically empty when Puyol lifted the cup/. Classless shower.
Thank you Barca.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 27, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 27, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you fcukin beauty;
this is for all the manc w*nks who continually hijacked the liverpool thread all season with their sh1te;
not so nice now lads; suck it up. suck it up
they still won more than us ???
Fair play Gab, Utd are sickening hoors sometimes but they still have won the PL 3 in a row, not a bad team by any stretch but outclassed tonight.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 27, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 27, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you fcukin beauty;
this is for all the manc w*nks who continually hijacked the liverpool thread all season with their sh1te;
not so nice now lads; suck it up. suck it up
they still won more than us ???
I know Hurl, really wish there was none of this shite.
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:19:15 PM
Good man Capt Pat, on the spot. Absolutely made up watching that, delighted with a result. Couldn't understand the cockiness on of the united posts and I beleive their own cockiness that they are the best team on planet, not even close I'm afraid. Couldn't beleive Ronney had the towel thrown in with 10 to go, turned his back at one stage and strolled back after a Barca jersey.Also they showed their true class in the stadium, their end was practically empty when Puyol lifted the cup/. Classless shower.
Thank you Barca.
Was surprised at this too, he is the last man you would expect that of. Something was amiss. The incidient was about the 86th minute and he just let Puyol stride past, luckily Puyol checked.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 27, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 27, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
you fcukin beauty;
this is for all the manc w*nks who continually hijacked the liverpool thread all season with their sh1te;
not so nice now lads; suck it up. suck it up
they still won more than us ???
Erm no I think you'll find Liverpool are still the most successful team in England. You still want Rafa to be sacked Hurl?
Liverpool were'nt playing tonight. Have i wandered onto the wrong thread ?
Barca were a different level. Was very suprised at Barca's energy chasing down and at the same uniteds lethargy (sp)
Quote from: Stalin on May 27, 2009, 10:25:16 PMErm no I think you'll find Liverpool are still the most successful team in England. You still want Rafa to be sacked Hurl?
When did I ever ask for Rafa to be sacked????
And I meant this season ::)
lets keep this on topic tonight lads, Barcelona just crowned the best club side in Europe, Villa are their sister club in the EPL too now with our sponsorship deal with Acorns!
Didn't see the first half - but United were outclassed for the whole second half bar maybe a 10 minute spell either side of 60 minutes in.
United fans can't have too many complaints - beaten by a better team on the night. What was with Ferguson's team selection though? Bizarre to say the least.
Never thought I'd say this - but United badly missed Fletcher in the middle tonight
(http://www.liverweb.org.uk/assets/images/PAISLEY5.JPG)
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 27, 2009, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Stalin on May 27, 2009, 10:25:16 PMErm no I think you'll find Liverpool are still the most successful team in England. You still want Rafa to be sacked Hurl?
When did I ever ask for Rafa to be sacked????
And I meant this season ::)
You said it this season on the old Liverpool thread.
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 27, 2009, 05:28:24 PM
Barcelona 2 Messi, Henry
Man u 1 Ronaldo
Then all 3 of my bets will be up
Ronaldo and messi both score 15/1
Messi first goal 7/1
Barcelona win 2-1 17/2
Fiver on each
Now I will be happy with that!!
Crossbar 3 times...Messi 2nd...If Ronaldo had have scored i would have had the other 2 up...lol
Couldn't be happier than i am now....
What a football lesson...Lol
I'm delighted Liverpool fans can take solace from their team not making the final. As for Utd, they didn't play well tonight and that's what it all boils down to. Barca totally deserved it fair play to them.
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
That's twice you said it. This is not a United thread, it is a Champions League final thread. If they want to post, they can. Just wish some could take the higher route than all this "shove it up ya" shit.
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
And dead.
Lovely
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 27, 2009, 10:38:13 PM
I'm delighted Liverpool fans can take solace from their team not making the final. As for Utd, they didn't play well tonight and that's what it all boils down to. Barca totally deserved it fair play to them.
Dry your eyes. Our CL was as succesfful as United this year - e.g. losing.
Well the 'best team in the world' argument has been put to bed. Takes a very good team to win European cups back to back.
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
I'll say it again, liverpool werent playing tonight. This isnt a Man united thread.
If you're having bother understanding it, contact your village idiot. It couldnt be clearer.
If you want to be a juvenille twat , head on over to the united thread.
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
And dead.
Arsehole.
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2009, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 27, 2009, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 27, 2009, 05:28:24 PM
Barcelona 2 Messi, Henry
Man u 1 Ronaldo
Then all 3 of my bets will be up
Ronaldo and messi both score 15/1
Messi first goal 7/1
Barcelona win 2-1 17/2
Fiver on each
Now I will be happy with that!!
Crossbar 3 times...Messi 2nd...If Ronaldo had have scored i would have had the other 2 up...lol
Couldn't be happier than i am now....
What a football lesson...Lol
What if you had have got a bet up?
WOULD HAVE GIVE IT ALL TO CHARITY JUST TO SEE UTD LOOSE....
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
I'll say it again, liverpool werent playing tonight. This isnt a Man united thread.
If you're having bother understanding it, contact your village idiot. It couldnt be clearer.
If you want to be a juvenille t**t , head on over to the united thread.
Exactly, it is a CL thread, so what's the problem?
Yer man on the left wing for Barca, Did he play with Arsenal at any stage ?
Henry and Silvinho both did.
Silvinho - yes
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
Freestater complains about perceived slight in the Queen of England's honours list.
United can point to absenteeism all they like but no one would have stopped that Barca display tonight, breathtaking play that sometimes you just have to admit is too good. Fergusons comments about 'us being good at breaking records' annoyed me before the final too, in regards to being the first team to defend the CL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGcOE7trpPM
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
And dead.
Dead man no good, dead pig some good as they say around our parts.
On that note Pat, the Barca fans were terrific tonight, never stopped chanting.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 27, 2009, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 27, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Im not a united supporter but all this liverpool crap is juvenille.
LIVERPOOL were not playing tonight !
f**k them, they spent half the season on the Liverpool thread gloating and putting the boot into Rafa.
Whiskey Nose was taught a lesson tonight by a young pup. Not one United player would have got on the Barca team. Masch wouldn't have let them take the piss like that. Maybe United should have played the team that beat Hull ;D ;D
"Sir" Bob Paisley - 3 time European Cup winner.
Freestater complains about perceived slight in the Queen of England's honours list.
Do please behave with this Freestater shite and I'll ca;; him what I like, when I like. Typical nordie has to try and take politics into an argument. Build a bridge.
imo best team peformance in a cl final since milan beat barca 4-0 back in '94. how much would iniesta, xavi and messi get on the transfer market? messi is so much like maradona its scary!
A relief that the rubbish about the Barca defense has stopped ;D they had feck all to do anyway, Puyol had the luxury to be more like an attacking midfielder.
I enjoyed that game. Man U were made to look crap and inept.
Puyol is my hero, real inspiration runs through ever fibre of his body and he is just one of the extras at this time of his career.
I'm biased but I though Messi edged the MOTM, tough call though
Quote from: clarshack on May 27, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
imo best team peformance in a cl final since milan beat barca 4-0 back in '94. how much would iniesta, xavi and messi get on the transfer market? messi is so much like maradona its scary!
Would have to agree, it was a superb performance.
Why do they have Unicef on their shirts?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 27, 2009, 11:18:59 PM
Why do they have Unicef on their shirts?
Barca dont have sponsors they have a charity on their shirts...
Traditionally never had a sponsor as it was regarded as sacrillage (sp) to the jersey.
Now they donate to unicef but dont recieve any shirt sponsorship money
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 27, 2009, 11:18:59 PM
Why do they have Unicef on their shirts?
Barca are a club apart, owned by the fans in a massive membership based ownership set-up. They have never had a shirt sponsor but a few years ago they decided to put Unicef on their shirts for no income/money. Just to promote their work.
Big pity for Utd that Ferguson didn't play to his team's strengths. He tried the same formation against Arsenal in the second leg and it could easy have ended up the same way. Only for a stupid slip from Gibbs, his focus on the opposition's strength's could've seen his team in trouble. Tonight, Gibbs wasn't playing for Barca.
It's a pity in that Rooney's a much better player than what he was allowed to show tonight.
Brilliant game tonight,superb display.the best players in the World stood up tonight and were counted-Messi and Iniesta in particular. Ronaldo-too greedy and our Wayne-non existent. A great night and a peaceful summer ahead not having to listen to all them Luke warm,hop on the bandwagon,know nothing about Football supporters.
??? How people watch live soccer week in week out is beyond me. ???
I rarely watch it bar MOTD and tonight reinforced why.....crap afaik
Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 11:16:35 PM
A relief that the rubbish about the Barca defense has stopped ;D they had feck all to do anyway, Puyol had the luxury to be more like an attacking midfielder.
I enjoyed that game. Man U were made to look crap and inept.
Puyol is my hero, real inspiration runs through ever fibre of his body and he is just one of the extras at this time of his career.
I'm biased but I though Messi edged the MOTM, tough call though
puyol is no mug and it was nonsense the way the barca defence was being talked about before the match. i watched pique against madrid, chelsea x2 and tonight and i cant believe utd let him go.
Thank christ we won't have to listen to the usual suspects gloating!
Only saw the second half, but United were thoroughly outclassed in that time anyway. I don't think United can have any complaints - Barcelona were well worth at least another goal. And so much for the dodgy Barcelona defense - United couldn't even get the ball to actually have a go at them, while their own defense was horribly exposed for both goals. Never seen Rooney so bad either.
When Barca did not have a sponsor wasn;t there some deal with the Spanish King or something?
Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 11:16:35 PM
A relief that the rubbish about the Barca defense has stopped ;D they had feck all to do anyway, Puyol had the luxury to be more like an attacking midfielder.
I enjoyed that game. Man U were made to look crap and inept.
Puyol is my hero, real inspiration runs through ever fibre of his body and he is just one of the extras at this time of his career.
I'm biased but I though Messi edged the MOTM, tough call though
Thought Pique, Messi and Iniesta were excellent,Puyol too but for me Xavi was the man of the match...everthing was going through him...
Ronaldo......Best player in the world ???
He's not even in the Top 5.....
As I said before,He'd make a great American footballer place kicker
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
When Barca did not have a sponsor wasn;t there some deal with the Spanish King or something?
Doubt it, aren't Real Madrid the Royal team (bailed out by Gov/Royal family a few years back) and Barca don't even see themselves as Spanish?
A whole lot of BS put up here tonight but fair enough only to be expected. As far as it goes from a Utds fans point of view we started well and conceded a bad goal. Midfield was poor all night only Carrick did anything and even he was very telegraphed at times. Ronnie played well I thought on limited enough supply. Lost the plot towards the finish but at least he showed some desire which was sadly missing elsewhere. The first goal was down to a por mistake from Vidic and VDS getting beat at his near post, not good >:(. By the time the second goal went in we had four attackers and a midfield of Carrick and Giggs. Giigs is a true legend but not up to the pace of a champions league final at 35. The worst stasitic all night was when Giggs went off after 75 minutes having run 6.22 KM. A normal midfielder runs 10K in 80 mins. The guys a legend so I will not push the point but Fletcher and Hargreaves were sore losses to Utd tonight. In fairness to Barca their much criticised back four held the line well and their offside worked well. of the Utd players IMO only O Shea ( kept Henry quiet) Evra and Ronnie played up to form. There will undoubtedly be a lot of chat about how much better Messi is than Ronnie but I thought Ronnie was our main threat tonight and Messi was only dangerous in patches particularly when Utd were chasing the game.
Anyways if we win three trophies next season including the league I will be a happy bunny. Fair play to Barca for drawing level with Utd on 3 European cups. We will settle for a European record over three years that has 38 games and only two defeats.
Rooney worked hard but he, like his team-mates had nowhere to go, they were simply outclassed and carried too many players tonight. Giggs was terrible, Carrick couldnt pass the ball two yards and Park was dire and had a great chance early on to score. I would not have him near that team. Tevez worked hard and gave his all when he came on and its a shame that united will let this guy go.
Ronaldo pouts when things go wrong, he dropped the head and seemed to believe they were going to finish second with 25 minutes left. Ferguson looked shocked and he knew they were fecked even earlier.
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
When Barca did not have a sponsor wasn;t there some deal with the Spanish King or something?
Doubt it, aren't Real Madrid the Royal team (bailed out by Gov/Royal family a few years back) and Barca don't even see themselves as Spanish?
They consider themselves Catalan..And play the anthem before every match....
Watched Barca play Derry City a few years ago and they played the Spanish Anthem before the match and some of the Barca fans were disgusted...Was like a insult to them....
Quote from: Square Ball on May 27, 2009, 10:12:34 PM
you have to hold your hands up and say the better team won, end of story, they did.
shit happens. sad but life goes on
Fair play,yourself and full back are the only United fans I have any time for
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:10:56 PM
And another thing, I have gotten about 10 joke texts already (Most by ONL trying to make out he is not a United fan), but regardless if you are on the receiving end or on the right end of these texts, they are never funny. They are always poor jokes!
Pm me those jokes quick will ya
Quote from: slow corner back on May 27, 2009, 11:35:10 PM
A whole lot of BS put up here tonight but fair enough only to be expected. As far as it goes from a Utds fans point of view we started well and conceded a bad goal. Midfield was poor all night only Carrick did anything and even he was very telegraphed at times. Ronnie played well I thought on limited enough supply. Lost the plot towards the finish but at least he showed some desire which was sadly missing elsewhere. The first goal was down to a por mistake from Vidic and VDS getting beat at his near post, not good >:(. By the time the second goal went in we had four attackers and a midfield of Carrick and Giggs. Giigs is a true legend but not up to the pace of a champions league final at 35. The worst stasitic all night was when Giggs went off after 75 minutes having run 6.22 KM. A normal midfielder runs 10K in 80 mins. The guys a legend so I will not push the point but Fletcher and Hargreaves were sore losses to Utd tonight. In fairness to Barca their much criticised back four held the line well and their offside worked well. of the Utd players IMO only O Shea ( kept Henry quiet) Evra and Ronnie played up to form. There will undoubtedly be a lot of chat about how much better Messi is than Ronnie but I thought Ronnie was our main threat tonight and Messi was only dangerous in patches particularly when Utd were chasing the game.
Anyways if we win three trophies next season including the league I will be a happy bunny. Fair play to Barca for drawing level with Utd on 3 European cups. We will settle for a European record over three years that has 38 games and only two defeats.
Fair enough summary but I don;t anyone can honestly say Evra performed can they? He was horrible. Bad positioning for the first and at fault for the second when he ducked under the clearance. I thought he was terrible all night.
Barca look to play Liverpool did all those years ago except that Barca play it at 10x speed.
Astonishing ball control, pass and move in an instant.
Even Rooney looked like a caveman out there and we know that lad can play.
Barca are a total team, the most disciplined team I have ever witnessed, they move as a unit whether they have the ball or not.
The back 4 and midfield always tuned in with each other.
You can see what this young manager has brought to their game since the Dutch guy left.
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on May 27, 2009, 11:35:10 PM
A whole lot of BS put up here tonight but fair enough only to be expected. As far as it goes from a Utds fans point of view we started well and conceded a bad goal. Midfield was poor all night only Carrick did anything and even he was very telegraphed at times. Ronnie played well I thought on limited enough supply. Lost the plot towards the finish but at least he showed some desire which was sadly missing elsewhere. The first goal was down to a por mistake from Vidic and VDS getting beat at his near post, not good >:(. By the time the second goal went in we had four attackers and a midfield of Carrick and Giggs. Giigs is a true legend but not up to the pace of a champions league final at 35. The worst stasitic all night was when Giggs went off after 75 minutes having run 6.22 KM. A normal midfielder runs 10K in 80 mins. The guys a legend so I will not push the point but Fletcher and Hargreaves were sore losses to Utd tonight. In fairness to Barca their much criticised back four held the line well and their offside worked well. of the Utd players IMO only O Shea ( kept Henry quiet) Evra and Ronnie played up to form. There will undoubtedly be a lot of chat about how much better Messi is than Ronnie but I thought Ronnie was our main threat tonight and Messi was only dangerous in patches particularly when Utd were chasing the game.
Anyways if we win three trophies next season including the league I will be a happy bunny. Fair play to Barca for drawing level with Utd on 3 European cups. We will settle for a European record over three years that has 38 games and only two defeats.
Fair enough summary but I don;t anyone can honestly say Evra performed can they? He was horrible. Bad positioning for the first and at fault for the second when he ducked under the clearance. I thought he was terrible all night.
I thought Evra continued to push forward all night. The first goal was nothing to do with Evra, Vidc sold himself and VDS got beat at the near post and the second was down to a none existent midfield giving Xavi all day to pick a cross and ferdinand being nowhere near Messi. Evra kept pushing forward and was not picked up by Barca all night. At least he had the courage to gamble. Eto did nothing when moved to the right wing and Messi only started to play when in the middle evra did alright along with Ronie and O Shea. Shame about the other eight
Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 11:52:22 PM
Barca look to play Liverpool did all those years ago except that Barca play it at 10x speed.
Astonishing ball control, pass and move in an instant.
Even Rooney looked like a caveman out there and we know that lad can play.
Barca are a total team, the most disciplined team I have ever witnessed, they move as a unit whether they have the ball or not.
The back 4 and midfield always tuned in with each other.
You can see what this young manager has brought to their game since the Dutch guy left.
What surprised me most is the strenght of the team. United are physically imposing but Xavi and Iniesta were holding off the United players like bullies.
Their game is such a unique one, very few runs are made by the players. Just ten-yard passes, unlocking the door. Demands discipline, technique and immense patience. Part of why they never seem to tire either.
yea the barca midfield was strong and composed on the ball even under pressure, typified probably against chelsea when they played their way into the final instead of hoofing and hoping for the last ten mins!
aye throw me afew of them jokes will ya!
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 27, 2009, 11:37:58 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
When Barca did not have a sponsor wasn;t there some deal with the Spanish King or something?
Doubt it, aren't Real Madrid the Royal team (bailed out by Gov/Royal family a few years back) and Barca don't even see themselves as Spanish?
They consider themselves Catalan..And play the anthem before every match....
Watched Barca play Derry City a few years ago and they played the Spanish Anthem before the match and some of the Barca fans were disgusted...Was like a insult to them....
Oh that is just classic I would loved to have been there to see that. :P Some of the Barca fans were insulted???? I would say it was all of them.
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Quote from: slow corner back on May 27, 2009, 11:35:10 PM
A whole lot of BS put up here tonight but fair enough only to be expected. As far as it goes from a Utds fans point of view we started well and conceded a bad goal. Midfield was poor all night only Carrick did anything and even he was very telegraphed at times. Ronnie played well I thought on limited enough supply. Lost the plot towards the finish but at least he showed some desire which was sadly missing elsewhere. The first goal was down to a por mistake from Vidic and VDS getting beat at his near post, not good >:(. By the time the second goal went in we had four attackers and a midfield of Carrick and Giggs. Giigs is a true legend but not up to the pace of a champions league final at 35. The worst stasitic all night was when Giggs went off after 75 minutes having run 6.22 KM. A normal midfielder runs 10K in 80 mins. The guys a legend so I will not push the point but Fletcher and Hargreaves were sore losses to Utd tonight. In fairness to Barca their much criticised back four held the line well and their offside worked well. of the Utd players IMO only O Shea ( kept Henry quiet) Evra and Ronnie played up to form. There will undoubtedly be a lot of chat about how much better Messi is than Ronnie but I thought Ronnie was our main threat tonight and Messi was only dangerous in patches particularly when Utd were chasing the game.
Anyways if we win three trophies next season including the league I will be a happy bunny. Fair play to Barca for drawing level with Utd on 3 European cups. We will settle for a European record over three years that has 38 games and only two defeats.
As muddled as Utd's performance.
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
They didn't have much of a choice. You can't play when you don't have the ball!
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Bollix. Utd won the premiership without breaking sweat. Home draws are not bad luck but bad play.
The league shows up the best team and although sometimes there are quirks of fortune you cannot put 11 premierships in 14 years or whatever down to luck.
L'pool get a sniff of second place and their supporters cream themselves and all of a sudden they are world beaters.
Utd got beat on the night by a better team. end of.
No point saying what L'pool, Chelsea or whoever might have done . They were not there and United got turned over by a superior team who turned over Chelsea who turned over L'Pool
Quote from: norabeag on May 28, 2009, 12:23:32 AM
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Bollix. Utd won the premiership without breaking sweat. Home draws are not bad luck but bad play.
The league shows up the best team and although sometimes there are quirks of fortune you cannot put 11 premierships in 14 years or whatever down to luck.
L'pool get a sniff of second place and their supporters cream themselves and all of a sudden they are world beaters.
Utd got beat on the night by a better team. end of.
No point saying what L'pool, Chelsea or whoever might have done . They were not there and United got turned over by a superior team who turned over Chelsea who turned over L'Pool
:D What Liverpool supporters are "creaming themselves" and declaring their side "world beaters"? Maybe your friends... if so, I'd suggest you find more realistic and intelligent acquaintances!
WANTED: Welder needed. Applications 2 Old Trafford, c/o Sir Alex Ferguson. Work entails welding roof back onto open top bus.
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 28, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 27, 2009, 11:37:58 PM
Quote from: bingobus on May 27, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
When Barca did not have a sponsor wasn;t there some deal with the Spanish King or something?
Doubt it, aren't Real Madrid the Royal team (bailed out by Gov/Royal family a few years back) and Barca don't even see themselves as Spanish?
They consider themselves Catalan..And play the anthem before every match....
Watched Barca play Derry City a few years ago and they played the Spanish Anthem before the match and some of the Barca fans were disgusted...Was like a insult to them....
Oh that is just classic I would loved to have been there to see that. :P Some of the Barca fans were insulted???? I would say it was all of them.
Fascinating club of immense importance to the Catalans, as it is about so much more than football. A great read is http://www.amazon.co.uk/Barca-Peoples-Passion-Jimmy-Burns/dp/0747545545/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243466995&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Barca-Peoples-Passion-Jimmy-Burns/dp/0747545545/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243466995&sr=1-1)
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Utds record in europe over 3 seasons, 38 games played, 2 defeats, Milan in semi 2007 and Barca final 2009. Far and away the most consistent record in Europe and three EPL to add to it. Loserpool more complete, I dont think so, add up the trophies over the last three seasons and see where u get. Wear ur Barca shirt with pride cause ur loserpool, one will have to hang ion the back of the cupboard for a good while yet
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
Thing is I don't believe it was their worst football of the season. They've played fairly poorly in a lot of games but have rescued themselves with late goals or a bit of magic from Ronaldo or Rooney. Usually Ronaldo god bless him.
Quote from: slow corner back on May 28, 2009, 12:34:24 AM
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Utds record in europe over 3 seasons, 38 games played, 2 defeats, Milan in semi 2007 and Barca final 2009. Far and away the most consistent record in Europe and three EPL to add to it. Loserpool more complete, I dont think so, add up the trophies over the last three seasons and see where u get. Wear ur Barca shirt with pride cause ur loserpool, one will have to hang ion the back of the cupboard for a good while yet
There's an angry man. ;D
just didnt happend for utd tonight. barca out played them which i think most fans would agree with. Utd looked like they were up for it when they came out all guns blazing at the start, and i was sure they were going to score. But that goal from eto'o totally against the run of play changed the balance of the match straight away and barca got confidence from it which they turned into slick passing and moving that was missing from the start. Not much Utd could do about it and although they had one or two other chances, they never really looked like a real threat to barcalona in the 2nd half either. Utd have a worldclass side, and so do barcelona, but just one had to come out on top tonight and it wasnt utd. Still a great season for them in my eyes, if liverpool had one like that id be over the moon!!
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Thats right Rafa, we won it 5ive Times :D :D :D
No need to add to the dissection of United's performance tonight, as most of it has been done. Would agree that Fletcher was a massive loss, and I've never been convinced by Anderson, but I'll bow to those who watch him week in, week out.
I live in hope that people can sit back now, and appreciate Chelsea's efforts over 186 minutes against Barce. It took the Catalans 9 minutes to do to United, what it took them 180 odd to do to Chelsea. Hiddink totally out foxed Guardiola, and stiffled Xavi, Messi etc. It's all very well playing pretty patterns, but time and place and all that.
As I say... live in hope.
All that's left now is 'The World's Greatest Cup Competition' on Saturday.
... and meant to add.... delighted for Eidur Gudjohnson.
So Chelsea can pack dustbins around their penalty area with technical skill and much athleticism, credible effort no doubt but not the stuff of champions.
Champions go out and play the game without fear along with great skill matched by supreme discipline.
Barca are worthy champions of Europe and thank feck the rest of us did not have to witness Chelsea and Man U in the final.
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 01:23:33 AM
So Chelsea can pack dustbins around their penalty area with technical skill and much athleticism, credible effort no doubt but not the stuff of champions.
Champions go out and play the game without fear along with great skill matched by supreme discipline.
Barca are worthy champions of Europe and thank feck the rest of us did not have to witness Chelsea and Man U in the final.
Why not? That was a great final in 2008.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 28, 2009, 12:58:17 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on May 28, 2009, 12:34:24 AM
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Utds record in europe over 3 seasons, 38 games played, 2 defeats, Milan in semi 2007 and Barca final 2009. Far and away the most consistent record in Europe and three EPL to add to it. Loserpool more complete, I dont think so, add up the trophies over the last three seasons and see where u get. Wear ur Barca shirt with pride cause ur loserpool, one will have to hang ion the back of the cupboard for a good while yet
There's an angry man. ;D
"Loserpool"!
What is he, 12 years old! :D :D
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 27, 2009, 10:14:02 PM
It turns out I was right by a country mile and to be quite frank I am not surprised. It wasn't even close.
Yes you were, and I'm delighted! ;D
4 years in a row:
- an English team lost in the final
Spanish teams now top the table of wins with 12, England and Italy have 11 each.
Best team won alright and Utd were just outclassed over the 90 mins. As the great man says goals dictate games and Etoo's finish was clinical and gave Barca the confidence they needed after a very bright start by Utd. Anderson, Vidic and Evra were poor for the goal. Carrick at least tried to get back but he ran past Evra to try and get a block in and thought VDS could have got a stronger hand on it. Second goal was bad by Ronaldo who didn't bother his hole after missing the kick out and Xavis and Messi's genius - beautiful finish. Overall Barca play the game the way I love to see it being played. Was there a pass longer than 15/20 yards from them? Messi is the real deal and look forward to watching him over the next few years. Xavi and Iniesta are fantastic as well and the closest thing I've ever seen to them are Giles and Bremner in their pomp!! Two small men who control the pace and tempo of the game. Great to watch.
Where the fcuk do you start?
Quote from: full back on May 28, 2009, 08:07:09 AM
Where the fcuk do you start?
Congratulations to the truly deserved champions of Europe!!
Some exhibition of controlled passing by Barca. Technically streets ahead of Utd, and will leave Whiskey snout with quite a bit of reflection. Could have been 4 or 5, with Utd really creating zilch, with Ronaldo having a go any time he entered Barcas half with team mates often unmarked and in much more dangerous positions. Rooney just never got going, and really no Utd player performed. Even the ever relaible Vidic looked dodgy.
stats:
Number of times Rooney and Ronaldo passed to each other: 2 :-\
Number of times Messi and Etoo passed to each other: 10
Quote from: Cúig huaire on May 28, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Thats right Rafa, we won it 5ive Times :D :D :D
Actually only one
Fair play to Barca. By far the best team on the night. Utd all over them until the goal but after that it was one way traffic. The most disappointing thing is that Utd did not do themselves justice but fair play to the team they have give their supporters a great 3 years.
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Quote from: slow corner back on May 28, 2009, 12:34:24 AM
Quote from: clarshack on May 28, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 28, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Uniited picked a bad night to play their worse football of the season.
utd have played like this in a lot of games this year. its just that wigan, hull, stoke etc dont have messi, henry, iniesta and xavi. utd lost most of the big games against the big teams. they were able to beat the shit better than liverpool could. imo liverpol are a more complete side than utd - just unlucky that several home draws (the games that utd always seem to win at a canter) cost them dearly.
Utds record in europe over 3 seasons, 38 games played, 2 defeats, Milan in semi 2007 and Barca final 2009. Far and away the most consistent record in Europe and three EPL to add to it. Loserpool more complete, I dont think so, add up the trophies over the last three seasons and see where u get. Wear ur Barca shirt with pride cause ur loserpool, one will have to hang ion the back of the cupboard for a good while yet
Loserpool? :D
Back away from the screen before you make an even bigger tit of yourself.
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
Like he did on March 14. ;D :D ;D :D
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
Post of the year.
First of all hands up...I backed MU to win 3-1 so I must preface anything I write with the admission that I seem to know feck all about soccer. Not much to add to the general jist of what has already been said, MU were played off the pitch by a much better team. Reservations about Barca's defence were unfounded as MU didn't get much chance to attack them after the first 10 mins and Puyol had a great game and Pique (of the handball ;)) was a contender for man of the match...if Ferguson is such a good judge of a player how come he let him go?
On other subjects, the premiership may be the self styled "best" league in the world but clearly Spain has the best players. The best player in the world?? For me there's a sheet of paper between Xavi Hernandez and Andres Iniesta, two all-round geniuses.
Not much here made of Ferguson's tactics, one sage on the board mentioned MU's one paced midfield, and that's spot on, Giggs. Carrick (Dunphy once called him a nothing player), Anderson and Park...no speed there (Iniesta is deceptively quick) and the decision to start with Tevez on the bench??
Myself and Norf Tyrone often have to put up with quips about Chelsea's lack of "class" (whatever that is) but in the last 10 minutes there were some pretty nasty challenges from Utd players. Sad to see Scholes (once a great player) reducing to clogging for a living...he should have got the line for the "tackle" on Busquets and Ronaldo was lucky to stay on after a two footed lunge at Puyol. MU usually are fairly graceless losers and Ferdinand and Ferguson (admittedly in the heat of the moment) seemed to blame defensive lapses for the defeat when everyone else knew they had been outplayed.
Only Chelsea seem to have had the measure of Barca in Europe this season ;)
Quote from: Minder on May 28, 2009, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
Post of the year.
Did he not say Messi wasn't really a problem :D Time for the old people's home...
From bbc website
Lorry driver James Loney, who had travelled from Lurgan, County Armagh to watch the match, said he was devastated.
He said: "There's no point in pretending otherwise, but I've been a United fan all my life, 40 years.
Was your oul fella not there to tuck you in last night Our Nail...........????
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 28, 2009, 10:09:55 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 28, 2009, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
Post of the year.
Did he not say Messi wasn't really a problem :D Time for the old people's home...
Too be fair Messi wasn't the main problem, the main problem was United could not get the ball of Xavi or Iniesta
Not overly disapointed, if you have to get beat, and even great teams do, then Barcelona is the team to get beat by and at least Man U tried to play some football. The fact was Barca were much superior on the night and United's ball retention was woeful and the normally reliable defence was shoddy. Though JOS did well enough
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 27, 2009, 06:03:21 PM
F** it... here goes 2-0 Barcelona (Messi and someone else)
This board is freaking me out a bit. Posted this at 6pm yesterday. Am a useless tipster and everyone I did on the board comes up trumps! yiks! Four previous with Everton right too! Is scaring me :o
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 28, 2009, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on May 27, 2009, 06:03:21 PM
F** it... here goes 2-0 Barcelona (Messi and someone else)
This board is freaking me out a bit. Posted this at 6pm yesterday. Am a useless tipster and everyone I did on the board comes up trumps! yiks! Four previous with Everton right too! Is scaring me :o
You most have sold your soul to the Devil.
I would have loved to see Liverpool play Barca this year think the liverpool set-up of:
Xavi A Masch
Kuyt Gerrard Yossi
Torres
would have done much more to cope with the threat of Xavi and Iniesta.
Think last nites final is a sad end to the likes of Giggs and Scholes who both looked like they just didnt have the legs anymore
Dont know what to say :-\
Thoroughly outplayed last night & the short comings of some Utd players were brutally exposed by a Barca team that are superb.
Bar the first 10 mins Utd didnt get close to them.
I thought earlier in the season the midfield wasnt up to it & this seems to be the case. The strikers/wingers covered for this lack of quality.
For what its worth
VDS - may have got a stronger hand to the 1st goal, not bad otherwise
OShea - he may have been Utd's best performer (not saying much)
Vidic - very shaky (like the game against the scousers)
Rio - on a night when Utd neded leaders he was AWOL
Evra - exposed time & time again
Giggs - sh1te. POTY my hole
Carrick - didnt want to know
Anderson - cause of the first goal, not world class standard
Park - ran all night (much like a headless chicken)
Ronaldo - had a shoot on sight policy, greedy, but at least he tried
Rooney - very disappointing for 2nd CL Final in a row. Couldnt pass it 5 yrds
SUBS
Tevez - high workrate as usual, nothing else
Berbatov - sh1te. The free header summed his season up
Scholes - came on, tried to break someones legs, not much else
All in all, Utd were exposed & torn to shreds
In reality if it had finished 4-0 there could have been no complaints
Probably sounds like a scathing attack on the players, but that is the harsh reality when you play against a team like Barca.
Fergie would have been better of in keeping it tight (like Chelsea) and using Utds undoubted counter attacking skills.
Schoolboy error to try & play Barca at their own game
QuoteA few punters were well off the mark with their predictions in the first few pages of this thread - not being one to gloat or nuffin
I was one of those - genuinely thought that Utd would be too strong for their midfield, but they certainly weren't. Complete display from Xavi and Iniesta in the middle - a joy to watch. Eto's goal was the turning point, Utd were a busted flush even that early.
Bless their hearts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ1ME1aqW4I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ1ME1aqW4I)
Quote from: corn02 on May 28, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 28, 2009, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on May 28, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Thats right Rafa, we won it 5ive Times :D :D :D
Actually only one
Eh?
Thats wrong Rafa.
Won What 5 times?
Ye have only won one Champions League title.
European cup was different tournament, different qualifications, different cup.
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 28, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 28, 2009, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on May 28, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Thats right Rafa, we won it 5ive Times :D :D :D
Actually only one
Eh?
Thats wrong Rafa.
Won What 5 times?
Ye have only won one Champions League title.
European cup was different tournament, different qualifications, different cup.
Same cup horse.
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
different cup.
1977
(http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:l7Jay4TAbUsl8M:http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd213/96reds/63JimmyCaseEuroCup.jpg)
1978
(http://www.retroreds.co.uk/allphotos/Liverpool_Euro_1978_Csport.jpg)
1981
(http://www.liverpoolpies.tv/dalglish_souness_hansen_198.jpg)
1984
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/16/article-1119803-001B8EC200000258-392_306x458.jpg)
2005
(http://www.oleole.com/media/main/images/wallpapers/65196/liverpool-champions-_80551.jpg)
They all look pretty similar to me
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
That's a bit rich given the churlish manner in which he usually takes defeat. Still, he was very dignified last night and you have to give him that.
Quote from: gawa316 on May 28, 2009, 12:04:23 PM
2005
(http://www.oleole.com/media/main/images/wallpapers/65196/liverpool-champions-_80551.jpg)
That one was the actual trophy that Man Utd lifted in 1999. If their fans ever want to see it, it can be found at Anfield Road, Liverpool, L4 0TH
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Was good to see Fergie taking the defeat in the proper way. He showed that bit of class that other managers could learn from. But then some other managers will never have class. :-\
Class me hole! what else could the aul bollix say only what he did..They were battered off the pitch by a far superior team not even old whiskey nose could make excuses last night
For once he couldn't blame the Ref,the pitch he couldn't even blame the colour of United's jerseys :D
certainly is a different cup now, because liverpool kept that one they lifted in 2005 after 5 times. And yea it nay have been named a different competition the first 4 times we won it...but it was harder to win! had to be champions to get in, straight knockout etc!!
What have Vidic & Jordan got in common?
They both regret letting a black man come inside them :-[
You won't see a more one sided champions league final for a long time, Barca completely dominated once their first goal went in.
Anderson is complete rubbish, Giggs is and has been past it for years, Berbatov is a waste of money, Tevez a poor mans Kuyt and Rooney completely overrated, shown it again last night.
Man United fan kills 4 Barcelona fans
Barcelona fans killed in Nigeria
A Manchester United fan in Nigeria killed four people when he drove his minibus into a crowd of Barcelona supporters after his team lost the Champions League final, police said today.
The crowd in the town of Ogbo were celebrating Barcelona's victory after last night's match when the bus drove into them. A police spokeswoman said 10 people were injured and the driver was arrested.
"The driver had passed the crowd then made a U-turn and ran into them," she said.
Barcelona beat Manchester United 2-0 in what was hailed as a "dream final" between two of Europe's best clubs. Both teams have large fan bases in Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation.
Quote from: full back on May 28, 2009, 12:34:53 PM
What have Vidic & Jordan got in common?
They both regret letting a black man come inside them :-[
:D - the texts have not stopped all morning!
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 28, 2009, 12:37:56 PM
You won't see a more one sided champions league final for a long time, Barca completely dominated once their first goal went in.
Anderson is complete rubbish, Giggs is and has been past it for years, Berbatov is a waste of money, Tevez a poor mans Kuyt and Rooney completely overrated, shown it again last night.
Do you expect to be taken seriously?
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 28, 2009, 12:37:56 PM
You won't see a more one sided champions league final for a long time, Barca completely dominated once their first goal went in.
Anderson is complete rubbish, Giggs is and has been past it for years, Berbatov is a waste of money, Tevez a poor mans Kuyt and Rooney completely overrated, shown it again last night.
FFS,
You have to be a WUM :D
Just to recap:
United leave Rome in ruins - The Times
"Ronaldo criticises Ferguson's tactics as Barcelona triumph," says the Times, which leads with United winger Cristiano Ronaldo's quote: "We were not well, the tactics were not good and everything went wrong." Must be off to Madrid then?
(Full story: The Times)
That's another fine Messi - Daily Mail
The newspaper says: "Humbled! Tiny Messi, all 5ft 6in of him, soars over dismal United... just call it the Head of God."
The Daily Mail salute Barcelona's superiority to "annihilate" United.
(Full story: Daily Mail)
Lionel Flair is perfect 10 - Daily Star
The Daily Star hails Barcelona playmaker Lionel Messi as the next World Footballer of the Year and calls him a "genius with magic in his boots".
(Full story: Daily Star)
Thrown to the Lionels - Daily Mirror
United were taught a lesson by "Beautiful Barcelona", while Barca boss Pep Guardiola is the new "Special Juan", according to the Daily Mirror.
(Full story: Daily Mirror)
Fergie in a right Messi - Daily Express
The Daily Express focuses on Sir Alex Ferguson's reaction to the defeat in Rome, claiming the United manager accused his big-name players of letting themselves down.
(Full story: Daily Express)
Catalan v Matalan - The Sun
The Sun highlights Cristiano Ronaldo's "The tactics were not good" comments but the newspaper also states that United were played off the park by "a Barcelona team superior in every department".
(Full story: The Sun)
United fail their final task as Barca conquer Europe - The Independent
"Barcelona are unarguably the masters of the continent," says The Independent, which goes on to look at the Spanish side's "unplayable" midfield.
(Full story: The Independent)
Just Messimerising - Daily Record
"A triumph for all that is good about the beautiful game," exclaims the Daily Record.
(Full story: Daily Record)
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Did anyone else think it was a bit 'funny' that Scholes took the armband whenever Giggs went off. Not that its a big deal or anything just thought it was a bit funny. Though Ferdinand was vice vice captain (not a type giggs vice captain, neville captain)
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Its amazing that such an even number of people voted for each candidate. Looks like a fix to me.
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Did anyone else think it was a bit 'funny' that Scholes took the armband whenever Giggs went off. Not that its a big deal or anything just thought it was a bit funny. Though Ferdinand was vice vice captain (not a type giggs vice captain, neville captain)
Maybe they were more concerned about trying to get back in the game rather than who was wearing an armband?
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 28, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Did anyone else think it was a bit 'funny' that Scholes took the armband whenever Giggs went off. Not that its a big deal or anything just thought it was a bit funny. Though Ferdinand was vice vice captain (not a type giggs vice captain, neville captain)
Maybe they were more concerned about trying to get back in the game rather than who was wearing an armband?
::)
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Its amazing that such an even number of people voted for each candidate. Looks like a fix to me.
UEFA.com gave motm to Xavi, which I'd agree with.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 28, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Did anyone else think it was a bit 'funny' that Scholes took the armband whenever Giggs went off. Not that its a big deal or anything just thought it was a bit funny. Though Ferdinand was vice vice captain (not a type giggs vice captain, neville captain)
Maybe they were more concerned about trying to get back in the game rather than who was wearing an armband?
Maybe they weren't sure if Rio was playing or not ;) ;D
Quote from: bingobus on May 28, 2009, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 28, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Did anyone else think it was a bit 'funny' that Scholes took the armband whenever Giggs went off. Not that its a big deal or anything just thought it was a bit funny. Though Ferdinand was vice vice captain (not a type giggs vice captain, neville captain)
Maybe they were more concerned about trying to get back in the game rather than who was wearing an armband?
Maybe they weren't sure if Rio was playing or not ;) ;D
Wouldnt be far wrong
Only heard one to-day, about an emergency call for welders to go to Manchester where an open top bus requires its roof to be put back on. Any others?
merge
Rio Ferdinand......
A flood warning was issued on Merseyside last night, as thousands of Scousers pissed themselves laughing. :-\
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Its amazing that such an even number of people voted for each candidate. Looks like a fix to me.
Yes, I fixed it.
I evened up the numbers to the nearest thousand :)
As a unit, Barca performed with such excellence that the Motm award is an irrelevence, more a point of discussion.
Special mention should go to the old warrior, Catalan legend Puyol, who stepped into the breech and it's noteworthy that he was held in such high esteem for his performance last night.
How United could have done with a player like him.
What does Nemanja Vidic and Katie Price have in common?
They both regret letting a black man come inside them :D :D :D
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Its amazing that such an even number of people voted for each candidate. Looks like a fix to me.
Yes, I fixed it.
I evened up the numbers to the nearest thousand :)
As a unit, Barca performed with such excellence that the Motm award is an irrelevence, more a point of discussion.
Special mention should go to the old warrior, Catalan legend Puyol, who stepped into the breech and it's noteworthy that he was held in such high esteem for his performance last night.
How United could have done with a player like him.
Yes - he played well last night alright and is a player I always admired. However, in the interest of fairness and being balanced I was shocked by his continuos rolling around on the ground like a little girl! You expect it from certain players but I wouldn't have expected it from a so-called warrior.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2009, 05:41:57 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: longball on May 28, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Its amazing that such an even number of people voted for each candidate. Looks like a fix to me.
Yes, I fixed it.
I evened up the numbers to the nearest thousand :)
As a unit, Barca performed with such excellence that the Motm award is an irrelevence, more a point of discussion.
Special mention should go to the old warrior, Catalan legend Puyol, who stepped into the breech and it's noteworthy that he was held in such high esteem for his performance last night.
How United could have done with a player like him.
Yes - he played well last night alright and is a player I always admired. However, in the interest of fairness and being balanced I was shocked by his continuos rolling around on the ground like a little girl! You expect it from certain players but I wouldn't have expected it from a so-called warrior.
Warrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play ::)
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
That behaviour should be familiar to MU fans!...from a pissed off Chelsea fan, we should have won the bloody thing!! ;)
To be fair the challenge with VDS looked painful and there was a reckless two footed lunge from CR7 ;) that was worth at the very least a yellow. And less of the "old"...believe it or not Puyol only turned 31 a few weeks ago and is younger than Henry!
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 28, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
That behaviour should be familiar to MU fans!...from a pissed off Chelsea fan, we should have won the bloody thing!! ;)
To be fair the challenge with VDS looked painful and there was a reckless two footed lunge from CR7 ;) that was worth at the very least a yellow. And less of the "old"...believe it or not Puyol only turned 31 a few weeks ago and is younger than Henry!
I assume you mean the one where he slid in but actually didn't touch him as opposed to the time he nearly killed him with a shoulder?
Quote from: full back on May 28, 2009, 05:46:59 PM
Warrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play ::)
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
He done well lifting the trophy after all the knocks he took ;)
Anderson
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 28, 2009, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: full back on May 28, 2009, 05:46:59 PM
Warrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play ::)
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
He done well lifting the trophy after all the knocks he took ;)
I know, the b4stard :D
Bloody phone has not stopped beep beeping all day... Ah well if you give it you have to be able to take it :D
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2009, 06:06:19 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 28, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
That behaviour should be familiar to MU fans!...from a pissed off Chelsea fan, we should have won the bloody thing!! ;)
To be fair the challenge with VDS looked painful and there was a reckless two footed lunge from CR7 ;) that was worth at the very least a yellow. And less of the "old"...believe it or not Puyol only turned 31 a few weeks ago and is younger than Henry!
I assume you mean the one where he slid in but actually didn't touch him as opposed to the time he nearly killed him with a shoulder?
Sounds like you're sorer than Puyol, Seanie
Clive Tyldesly: Michael Carrick is every bit as good a passer of the ball as Xavi
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 07:25:41 PM
Bloody phone has not stopped beep beeping all day... Ah well if you give it you have to be able to take it :D
Pity some of the other United fans on here couldn't take that same view ::)
got about 20 texts today, it wouldnt have been to bad but they were nearly all the same, be original people. Illdecide's one is one of the better ones
Some screwball Man U supporter killed 4 Barca supporters after the game in Nigeria......talk about sore losers! :o
Ater all it's only a game.
Quote from: Square Ball on May 28, 2009, 08:54:50 PM
got about 20 texts today, it wouldnt have been to bad but they were nearly all the same, be original people. Illdecide's one is one of the better ones
I thought mine was the best ;)
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 28, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
That behaviour should be familiar to MU fans!...from a pissed off Chelsea fan, we should have won the bloody thing!! ;)
To be fair the challenge with VDS looked painful and there was a reckless two footed lunge from CR7 ;) that was worth at the very least a yellow. And less of the "old"...believe it or not Puyol only turned 31 a few weeks ago and is younger than Henry!
Henry is an old warrior as well :) But when you play for the one club all your football life, it adds more mystique to it.
Anyway, the Barca fans just love him.
Yes, Puyol shipped a bad lunge by Ronaldo as well as a couple of elbows from him.
I am truly neutral in these matters ;D
Tevez a poor mans Kuyt
Someone's been reading or listening to Barry Glendenning too much I see!
Quote from: Diet Coke on May 28, 2009, 08:55:57 PM
Some screwball Man U supporter killed 4 Barca supporters after the game in Kenya......talk about sore losers! :o
Ater all it's only a game.
An elderly, white man with a purple nose was seen staggering from the wreckage after the incident.
There's been some good artwork floating about too.
Feel free to post it here. I particularly liked the childish one of Rafa standing giving Whiskey Nose the bird.
Quote from: gallsman on May 28, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
Tevez a poor mans Kuyt
Someone's been reading or listening to Barry Glendenning too much I see!
Actually its Paul Doyle and he describes Tevez as a richmans Dirk Kuyt.
;)
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anderson 13million ? the worst Brazilian ever seen since Stevie Wonder shaved his wifes box .
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Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
Pah. First past the post, not worth jack. Have they not heard of the single transferable vote?
Someone mentioned earlier about Barce's values, and the fact that they haven't 'hoored' out their jersey. I'll be honest, and say I am being a bit harsh here but this 'more than a club' thing sickens my hole.
Chelsea are more than a club to me, and I am sure likewise Lpool, United, Villa etc to whom it concerns.
Anyhow I digress. Apparently Barce have UNICEF on their jersies to dilute any bite when they eventually 'hoor' out their jersies in the next season or two.
They may well sell their jersey space in a few years as I have heard that too but the Unicef deal is to run for at least another 2/3 years. I do think as a club they are an example to other soccer teams the world over. Their fans actually have a say in what goes on and vote for the president (chairman) who controls transfers etc, they in effect own the club, that is the difference insofar as their right to be deemed 'more than a club'. I am very impressed by how they do business and how they go about things, a great club mirrored only by AVFC in the EPL btw!!
There was a great documentary a few years ago around the time of Laporta's election, gave a great insight into how the club works.
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 28, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 28, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: AbbeySider on May 28, 2009, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on May 28, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Thats right Rafa, we won it 5ive Times :D :D :D
Actually only one
Eh?
Thats wrong Rafa.
Won What 5 times?
Ye have only won one Champions League title.
European cup was different tournament, different qualifications, different cup.
See five or six posts below yours and take a massive reddner. :D
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Catalan press poll on MOTM 170,000 voted
Messi 60,000
Iniesta 34,000
Xavi 30,000
Valdes 26,000
Pique 18,000
Puyol 12,000
Messi elected on the first count.
I demand a recount, 170,000 voted........180,000 votes counted.
You guys are just too used to fraud and deception ;D
However the poll has a flexible closing time, the votes are still rolling in.
Openess and transparancy
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Resultado.
Quién ha sido el mejor de la final?
Xavi| 35719 17 %
Iniesta| 39122 19 %
Valdés| 2905 1 %
Eto'o| 8407 4 %
Messi| 81212 39 %
Piqué| 19788 10 %
Puyol| 12705 6 %
Sylvinho| 6298 3 %
total votos| 206156
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 28, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 07:25:41 PM
Bloody phone has not stopped beep beeping all day... Ah well if you give it you have to be able to take it :D
Pity some of the other United fans on here couldn't take that same view ::)
:D :D Talk of irony & hypocrisy... wasn't the original Liverpool thread closed down?
... Ye would think Liverpool fans would be fit for a bit of abuse like! (You've been getting it long enough!)
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 29, 2009, 08:42:58 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 28, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 28, 2009, 07:25:41 PM
Bloody phone has not stopped beep beeping all day... Ah well if you give it you have to be able to take it :D
Pity some of the other United fans on here couldn't take that same view ::)
:D :D Talk of irony & hypocrisy... wasn't the original Liverpool thread closed down?
... Ye would think Liverpool fans would be fit for a bit of abuse like! (You've been getting it long enough!)
Did I close it?
Just back from Rome, unreal experience....no ticket but got to watch the game in a united supporters zone. Plenty of dodgy tickets floating around outside the stadium, i heard the going rate of the tickets were €1,000, the cheapest that i heard someone buy 1 for was €400.
Barcelona were worthy winners of the trophy (maybe Chelsea fans will contest this), however i believe that performance on Wednesday night cemented their place as the no 1 side in Europe.
The drinks ban put a bit of a dampner on things, though I suppose with no violence or disturbances of note in and around the city it can be said to have been a success.
Quote from: stiffler on May 29, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
Just back from Rome, unreal experience....no ticket but got to watch the game in a united supporters zone. Plenty of dodgy tickets floating around outside the stadium, i heard the going rate of the tickets were €1,000, the cheapest that i heard someone buy 1 for was €400.
Barcelona were worthy winners of the trophy (maybe Chelsea fans will contest this), however i believe that performance on Wednesday night cemented their place as the no 1 side in Europe.
The drinks ban put a bit of a dampner on things, though I suppose with no violence or disturbances of note in and around the city it can be said to have been a success.
I'd imagine there was plenty of fans stung after buying fake tickets..
That be some kick in the nuts to hand over a few grand only to find out the tickets are dodge
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 29, 2009, 08:58:55 AM
Quote from: stiffler on May 29, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
Just back from Rome, unreal experience....no ticket but got to watch the game in a united supporters zone. Plenty of dodgy tickets floating around outside the stadium, i heard the going rate of the tickets were €1,000, the cheapest that i heard someone buy 1 for was €400.
Barcelona were worthy winners of the trophy (maybe Chelsea fans will contest this), however i believe that performance on Wednesday night cemented their place as the no 1 side in Europe.
The drinks ban put a bit of a dampner on things, though I suppose with no violence or disturbances of note in and around the city it can be said to have been a success.
I'd imagine there was plenty of fans stung after buying fake tickets..
That be some kick in the nuts to hand over a few grand only to find out the tickets are dodge
Yea would be gutting alright, I read in the paper yesterday that the attendance was 72,000, is that the capacity of the stadium? I thought it would have been around 80,000.
The tickets on general sale idea seems to be not working. It is most of these tickets that are being touted on.
The stadium got a "refit" last year for the Champions Legue final which reuced the capacity to 72,000.
Quote from: stiffler on May 29, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
Just back from Rome, unreal experience....no ticket but got to watch the game in a united supporters zone. Plenty of dodgy tickets floating around outside the stadium, i heard the going rate of the tickets were €1,000, the cheapest that i heard someone buy 1 for was €400.
Barcelona were worthy winners of the trophy (maybe Chelsea fans will contest this), however i believe that performance on Wednesday night cemented their place as the no 1 side in Europe.
The drinks ban put a bit of a dampner on things, though I suppose with no violence or disturbances of note in and around the city it can be said to have been a success.
No complaints from me stiffler. Barcelona are a better team than Chelsea, it's just in a two leg tie Chelsea had to play a certain way to try to stifle their creative players...and it
nearly worked. But I will admit if Chelsea played Barca ten times in a season it would more than likely be 7 wins to Barcs, two draws and a win for Chelsea.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
Someone mentioned earlier about Barce's values, and the fact that they haven't 'hoored' out their jersey. I'll be honest, and say I am being a bit harsh here but this 'more than a club' thing sickens my hole.
Chelsea are more than a club to me, and I am sure likewise Lpool, United, Villa etc to whom it concerns.
Anyhow I digress. Apparently Barce have UNICEF on their jersies to dilute any bite when they eventually 'hoor' out their jersies in the next season or two.
This "mes que un club" thing is taking on a life of its own. True, Barca is owned by the club members, "socios" as they are known in Spain...so is Real Madrid and indeed most other soccer clubs in Spain. True, Barca puts UNICEF on its shirts and does not take sponsorship money, rather it makes a donation to UNICEF. However critics of Barca in Spain would say thay can afford to do this because they are paid so much by NIke for the "swoosh" on their shirts...effectively a shirt sponsor. Also it is said in Spain that Barca put UNICEF on the shirts because no company would pay what they were asking for traditional shirt sponsorship. Another thing that makes them different is that in Spain clubs sell the TV rights to their games individually not as a package as in England. Therefore the rights to a Barca v Real Madrid game will go for huge money and most of that money goes to Barca and Rela Madrid whereas Getafe v Valladolid will sell for relatively small money. The result is that the big clubs get richer through TV deals whereas in England the TV money is more evenly spead eg Burnley will get £50 mill (???) just for being in the Premiership. Lastly Barca do not completely spit on the commercial element of soccer. They have very lucrative sponsoship deals with Caixa Bank and Estrella Dorada beer to name just two.
The more than a club thing comes from the days of the Franco regime when the Camp Nou was one of the few places where the Catalan language could be spoken openly as the authorities were trying to suppress it. Barca FC became a focus for Catalan nationalism and resistance to the "occupying" regime...sound familiar???
QuoteWarrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
I always thought Puyol was a tough, warrior type defender myself but after Wednesday night its obvious that he is just as much a continental pansy as Robben. The so called 2 foot lunge for Ronaldo didn't make contact with the man and he made a complete meal of it. There was another time when he was rolling around only to hop up and away when he realised the ref wasn't going to blow his whistle.
1st post since the match.
Delighted Barca won it in style.
Had 4-1 and 3-0 backed so bit peed off they didnt take the chances they created.
The last month of the seaon was probably the biggest in their history.
If they had lost the league and CL the way they play the game would have been questioned and they
could have changed their system and gone down the route of a Drogba type hitman up front in future.
This would have been a shame.
Xavi and Messi had great games but for me their main man is Iniesta.
They blip in league form in season was when he was injured.
In the 2006 final v Gunners people will always remember the Larrson substitute as been the turning point.
But Iniesta was also hugely influential when he came on.
He is pure class and it took until 10.30pm last Wednesday for Jamie Redknapp to acknowledge what a good player he is.. :D
Cousin Frank might have rival as the best centre midfielder in world.. :P
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 29, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
QuoteWarrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
I always thought Puyol was a tough, warrior type defender myself but after Wednesday night its obvious that he is just as much a continental pansy as Robben. The so called 2 foot lunge for Ronaldo didn't make contact with the man and he made a complete meal of it. There was another time when he was rolling around only to hop up and away when he realised the ref wasn't going to blow his whistle.
In the tackle with VDS you could clearly see that he twisted his ankle
Quote from: Bensars on May 29, 2009, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 29, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
QuoteWarrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
I always thought Puyol was a tough, warrior type defender myself but after Wednesday night its obvious that he is just as much a continental pansy as Robben. The so called 2 foot lunge for Ronaldo didn't make contact with the man and he made a complete meal of it. There was another time when he was rolling around only to hop up and away when he realised the ref wasn't going to blow his whistle.
In the tackle with VDS you could clearly see that he twisted his ankle
There wasnt much wrong with him when he sprinted back up the field or when he went down straight away when there was a break in play. When the referee told him to leave the field there was fcuk all wrong with him :-\
The grapes are starting to become more and more sour.
There may not have been, however you could clearly see the ankle go from under him.
In the same position if it had have been Ronaldo and united had been leading you would have had to lift the hoarding to allow him to roll under them.
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Bensars on May 29, 2009, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 29, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
QuoteWarrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
I always thought Puyol was a tough, warrior type defender myself but after Wednesday night its obvious that he is just as much a continental pansy as Robben. The so called 2 foot lunge for Ronaldo didn't make contact with the man and he made a complete meal of it. There was another time when he was rolling around only to hop up and away when he realised the ref wasn't going to blow his whistle.
In the tackle with VDS you could clearly see that he twisted his ankle
There wasnt much wrong with him when he sprinted back up the field or when he went down straight away when there was a break in play. When the referee told him to leave the field there was fcuk all wrong with him :-\
To be fair FB, in THAT incident he was caught, didn't like his rollfor Ronaldo's tackle.
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Bensars on May 29, 2009, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 29, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
QuoteWarrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
I always thought Puyol was a tough, warrior type defender myself but after Wednesday night its obvious that he is just as much a continental pansy as Robben. The so called 2 foot lunge for Ronaldo didn't make contact with the man and he made a complete meal of it. There was another time when he was rolling around only to hop up and away when he realised the ref wasn't going to blow his whistle.
In the tackle with VDS you could clearly see that he twisted his ankle
There wasnt much wrong with him when he sprinted back up the field or when he went down straight away when there was a break in play. When the referee told him to leave the field there was fcuk all wrong with him :-\
To be fair FB, in THAT incident he was caught, didn't like his rollfor Ronaldo's tackle.
He may have been caught corn, but he was up like a rocket when he realised play wasnt going to be stopped then made a miraculous recovery again when he realised he would have to go off the pitch.
Cant have been that bad
BTW, not sour grapes at all minder
Suprised you have time to type because I would say you have been w4nking over Barca from Wed night :-\
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 12:14:26 PM
He may have been caught corn, but he was up like a rocket when he realised play wasnt going to be stopped then made a miraculous recovery again when he realised he would have to go off the pitch.
Cant have been that bad
Not that bad?
Would you ever cop on.
Not bad enough to stop Puyol from resuming his defensive position in a CL final.
Ronaldo yellow carded for a clear foul on Puyol, insane to think that there is any question about that.
Ronaldo's 2 footed lunge, foul, looked awful but not that much to moan about by Puyol,
Puyol had neatly pulled the ball back and Ronaldo's lunge looked worse than it was.
Overall, Puyol had a superb game at right full, a positive attacking influential performance in a top class team.
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: Bensars on May 29, 2009, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 29, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
QuoteWarrior my bollox
He is constantly rolling around on the ground & he is an expert in time wasting - the only Barca player to fcuk me off last night.
After the challenge with VDS he was rolling on the ground. But like Lazarus he rose from the dead & made it to the other end of the pitch in double quick time.
Then some sniper took him out after the ball went out of play
*from a p1ssed off Utd fan*
I always thought Puyol was a tough, warrior type defender myself but after Wednesday night its obvious that he is just as much a continental pansy as Robben. The so called 2 foot lunge for Ronaldo didn't make contact with the man and he made a complete meal of it. There was another time when he was rolling around only to hop up and away when he realised the ref wasn't going to blow his whistle.
In the tackle with VDS you could clearly see that he twisted his ankle
There wasnt much wrong with him when he sprinted back up the field or when he went down straight away when there was a break in play. When the referee told him to leave the field there was fcuk all wrong with him :-\
To be fair FB, in THAT incident he was caught, didn't like his rollfor Ronaldo's tackle.
He may have been caught corn, but he was up like a rocket when he realised play wasnt going to be stopped then made a miraculous recovery again when he realised he would have to go off the pitch.
Cant have been that bad
BTW, not sour grapes at all minder
Suprised you have time to type because I would say you have been w4nking over Barca from Wed night :-\
No wan*ing on a school night, the weekend is here though (http://www.ynwa.tv/forum/style_emoticons/default/4_17_8%5B1%5D.gif)
Always loves watching Barcelona play against anyone, the fact that they were able to do it in a Euopean Cup Final against Utd just made it orgasmic.
Quote from: Main Street on May 29, 2009, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 12:14:26 PM
He may have been caught corn, but he was up like a rocket when he realised play wasnt going to be stopped then made a miraculous recovery again when he realised he would have to go off the pitch.
Cant have been that bad
Not that bad?
Would you ever cop on.
Not bad enough to stop Puyol from resuming his defensive position in a CL final.
Ronaldo yellow carded for a clear foul on Puyol, insane to think that there is any question about that.
Ronaldo's 2 footed lunge, foul, looked awful but not that much to moan about by Puyol,
Puyol had neatly pulled the ball back and Ronaldo's lunge looked worse than it was.
Overall, Puyol had a superb game at right full, a positive attacking influential performance in a top class team.
Im talking about the time he went down in the incident with VDS FFS ::)
He made contact with VDS and limped out of it.
What's the deal about that?
Run of the mill stuff in a game, nothing contrived about it.
Quote from: Main Street on May 29, 2009, 01:59:05 PM
He made contact with VDS and limped out of it.
What's the deal about that?
Run of the mill stuff in a game, nothing contrived about it.
He didnt limp out of it, he went down looking the ball put out of play.
When he realised this wasnt going to happen, he was back outside his own box in a matter of seconds.
He then went down again when the ball went out of play. When he realised he had to go off the field to get 'treatment' the injury miraculously cleraed up
Quote from: full back on May 29, 2009, 02:03:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 29, 2009, 01:59:05 PM
He made contact with VDS and limped out of it.
What's the deal about that?
Run of the mill stuff in a game, nothing contrived about it.
He didnt limp out of it, he went down looking the ball put out of play.
When he realised this wasnt going to happen, he was back outside his own box in a matter of seconds.
He then went down again when the ball went out of play. When he realised he had to go off the field to get 'treatment' the injury miraculously cleraed up
Maybe it was because he was in Rome and Pope might be a Barcelona fan :)
A trivial incident in a game where Puyol played superbly, a great defender who lends plenty to the Barcelona attacking game.
Full Back, you wouldn't happen to be a Man follower?
I am completly neutral in these matters not blinded at all by subjectivity :)
Any more jokes?
I didnt say he didnt play well
I was pointing out the playacting
Yes, I am a Utd fan. Doesnt mean it didnt happen
Quote from: Off The Fence on May 29, 2009, 02:31:28 PM
Any more jokes?
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Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
Someone mentioned earlier about Barce's values, and the fact that they haven't 'hoored' out their jersey. I'll be honest, and say I am being a bit harsh here but this 'more than a club' thing sickens my hole.
Chelsea are more than a club to me, and I am sure likewise Lpool, United, Villa etc to whom it concerns.
I know what you mean. Every club has their mythology, but Barca's can be especially cloying. It's not as if they don't change their jersey as often as everyone else.
Quote from: Off The Fence on May 29, 2009, 02:31:28 PM
Any more jokes?
Wayne Rooney has had a phone call from Harry Potter. He wants his invisible cloak back
Quote from: deiseach on May 29, 2009, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
Someone mentioned earlier about Barce's values, and the fact that they haven't 'hoored' out their jersey. I'll be honest, and say I am being a bit harsh here but this 'more than a club' thing sickens my hole.
Chelsea are more than a club to me, and I am sure likewise Lpool, United, Villa etc to whom it concerns.
I know what you mean. Every club has their mythology, but Barca's can be especially cloying. It's not as if they don't change their jersey as often as everyone else.
i agree, i think its more down to fans that make a club 'more than a club' rather than what they have or dont have on their jerseys! newcastle are just as much of a club as barca and they are after gettin relegated, but their fan base is superb whatever the weather!
QuoteSomeone mentioned earlier about Barce's values, and the fact that they haven't 'hoored' out their jersey. I'll be honest, and say I am being a bit harsh here but this 'more than a club' thing sickens my hole.
Chelsea are more than a club to me, and I am sure likewise Lpool, United, Villa etc to whom it concerns.
I know what you mean. Every club has their mythology, but Barca's can be especially cloying. It's not as if they don't change their jersey as often as everyone else.
Even though you may consider Chelsea or your own team to be "More than a club to you" it in nothing compared to what Barca fans hold for their club.
Its Catalan nationism, the unity of the underdog and the oppression suffered downs the years that had build up the history/unity. Its far beyond soccer.
Historically chelsea or newcastle cant compare to their story.
I am a Pool fan but they are nothing more than a sports team I support to me.
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
Considering Chelsea are over 100 years old, how do you figure that?
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
You do know there was football before 1993?
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
Considering Chelsea are over 100 years old, how do you figure that?
In comparing them to Everton, Villa, Tottenham and Arsenal I think it's fair assessment.
Unless you consider them fielding the first foreign XI as history then yea maybe.
Quote from: Minder on May 29, 2009, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
You do know there was football before 1993?
Thankfully I'm not a Manyoo fan so yes I do know there was football before 93. thanks for asking though.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
Considering Chelsea are over 100 years old, how do you figure that?
In comparing them to Everton, Villa, Tottenham and Arsenal I think it's fair assessment.
Unless you consider them fielding the first foreign XI as history then yea maybe.
So... Chelsea have got a history. Except if you compare them to clubs that were formed before them, then they have no history. Fair enough. ::)
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 10:56:06 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
Considering Chelsea are over 100 years old, how do you figure that?
In comparing them to Everton, Villa, Tottenham and Arsenal I think it's fair assessment.
Unless you consider them fielding the first foreign XI as history then yea maybe.
So... Chelsea have got a history. Except if you compare them to clubs that were formed before them, then they have no history. Fair enough. ::)
Well every fcking club has 'history' of sorts but as I said historically they can't compare to other 'lesser' teams of today including the aforementioned teams.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 10:56:06 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 29, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Historically Chelsea can't compare to quite a few English clubs ffs.
Considering Chelsea are over 100 years old, how do you figure that?
In comparing them to Everton, Villa, Tottenham and Arsenal I think it's fair assessment.
Unless you consider them fielding the first foreign XI as history then yea maybe.
So... Chelsea have got a history. Except if you compare them to clubs that were formed before them, then they have no history. Fair enough. ::)
Well every fcking club has 'history' of sorts but as I said historically they can't compare to other 'lesser' teams of today including the aforementioned teams.
Exactly everyone has 'history' of sorts. It's not something that you can
compare though is it? I can't say Chelsea's history is greater or less than Stokes, or Evertons or Man United. It's just different.
You can't compare a clubs history with another club ? :D Riiiiight, funny how fans of many clubs chant otherwise to Chelsea fans on a regular basis.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 11:04:19 PM
You can't compare a clubs history with another club ? :D Riiiiight, funny how fans of many clubs chant otherwise to Chelsea fans on a regular basis.
Explain to me then how you compare it?
How many times have Chelsea won the league before they were bankrolled by the Russian ? Now compare that to other said clubs.
How many times have they won the FA Cup ? Now compare to said clubs.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 11:18:25 PM
How many times have Chelsea won the league before they were bankrolled by the Russian ? Now compare that to other said clubs.
How many times have they won the FA Cup ? Now compare to said clubs.
That's not what history is about. What you are referring to is success.
History is something completely different. It's about the good, the bad and the ugly. Read a waaaayyy back in the Chelsea thread where this arguement arise before.
Anyhow gotta go... moer history to shape tomorrow win or lose.
History in football terms is defined by success in my books, I don't count hooliganism as history. ;D
Enjoy tomorrow.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 29, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
History in football terms is defined by success in my books, I don't count hooliganism as history. ;D
Enjoy tomorrow.
You must be a Liverpool fan then! ;D