cardinal sean brady thread ..

[T Fearon]

The oath is largely irrelevant here.They were not "forced" to sign it however,and could have retracted it at any time,if they didn't have the backbone at the time.It is a red herring,if it wasn't it would have come to light a lot earlier than recent years

[Eamonnca1]

[muppet]

The oath is largely irrelevant here.They were not "forced" to sign it however,and could have retracted it at any time,if they didn't have the backbone at the time.It is a red herring,if it wasn't it would have come to light a lot earlier than recent years

We can add the words oath[/i and secrecy to the word evidence as concepts that you are completely clueless about.

It is also incredible that Tony blames the sexually abused children for not having backbone, but pleads the Nuremberg Defence on behalf of Brady, a Canon Lawyer.

Those children have far more backbone than people like Fearon or Brady could ever comprehend.

[T Fearon]

Ah children and secrets that they always keep.You cannot keep on using the excuse of vulnerability and youth to completely exonerate parents and over egg an oath.If an adult can rationalise that reporting the rapist of her child to the authorities will get that rapist into trouble then she is of sound mind and able to discern the consequences of decisions.Similarly the oath presented to children was not going to make them super grasses if they breached it,with all the consequences that might have had in contemporaneous organisations at the time.

We will continue this debate as long as necessary until you grasp this whole issue with objective circumspection and come to the same conclusion as Mr Boland,that blame for Brendan Smith hould be apportioned to numerous agencies not just Sean Brady.

[From the Bunker]

Mods please close this thread down again. It is reaching a new level of crass.

[Hardy]

Perhaps the reason the children felt bound by their oath was because, unlike all the clerical cover-uppers, they understood that truth matters and had never heard of "mental reservation", a trick that was only available to the clerics as their get-out-of-an-oath-free card.

[T Fearon]

Setting children an oath (which was wrong and of its time) is as valid as setting children homework and expecting each and everyone to do it.Those children reached the age of reason relatively soon afterwards.In any event if Brady's Superiors had acted appropriately the oath would have been utterly irrelevant.

It is a consolation to those not riven by anti Catholicism to know that the victims themselves are coming round to the more circumspect view that the entire blame for Brendan Smyth cannot be placed exclusively at the door of the Catholic Church and particularly Sean Brady.

[Eamonnca1]

Lock the f***ing thread, mods. Let Tony go and talk his old shite somewhere else.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

where else can he spew his bile - he certainly won't be doing it on FB or Twitter, nor down his workplace either.

[T Fearon]

Yawn,ago old argument of argument losers,insult the victor