Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[illdecide]

On a side note Stephen McGeehan from Ulster Council looks like his head is about to burst in that photo in todays paper promoting it...lol. I know people put on weight but not usually on their head...The pressure of Casement

[BluestackBoy]

Maybe I'm missing something but at 34,000 this new stadium is no bigger capacity than Clones & is harder to get to for most Ulster supporters.

What is the point in this?

[Saffrongael]

Maybe I'm missing something but at 34,000 this new stadium is no bigger capacity than Clones & is harder to get to for most Ulster supporters.

What is the point in this?

Politics

[Stall the Bailer]

Modern facilities?

[Kickham csc]

Maybe I'm missing something but at 34,000 this new stadium is no bigger capacity than Clones & is harder to get to for most Ulster supporters.

What is the point in this?

Would that be an accurate statement.

Clones better for Cavan,  Monaghan, Fermanagh, S Armagh, West Tryone, South Donegal
Casement better for Antrim, Derry, N Donegal, Down, North Armagh, East Tryone

So both would be 50 / 50, a northern stadium and a southern one

Does that not sound like a equal balanced solution 

[Hectic]

Maybe I'm missing something but at 34,000 this new stadium is no bigger capacity than Clones & is harder to get to for most Ulster supporters.

What is the point in this?

Have you tried driving on the roads to Clones and if so would you say they are of the same standard at the M1?  Traffic being dispersed quicker from Belfast should see you home to many parts of the country quicker than from Clones.

Besides Clones is not in the '6 counties' where the money has been earmarked for - in fact strike that, the money has been earmarked for West Belfast so Casement is the only show in town so the merits or otherwise of any other location do not even come into it.

[Hectic]

Maybe I'm missing something but at 34,000 this new stadium is no bigger capacity than Clones & is harder to get to for most Ulster supporters.

What is the point in this?

Would that be an accurate statement.

Clones better for Cavan,  Monaghan, Fermanagh, S Armagh, West Tryone, South Donegal
Casement better for Antrim, Derry, N Donegal, Down, North Armagh, East Tryone

So both would be 50 / 50, a northern stadium and a southern one

Does that not sound like a equal balanced solution

Plus probably handier from Dublin and hence much of the Republic.  Qualifier games and all that.

[Rossfan]

And when Antrim make the "Big 8" series.

[Milltown Row2]

And when  ;DAntrim make the "Big 8" series.

Along with the Rossies   

[JoG2]

Maybe I'm missing something but at 34,000 this new stadium is no bigger capacity than Clones & is harder to get to for most Ulster supporters.

What is the point in this?

Would that be an accurate statement.

Clones better for Cavan,  Monaghan, Fermanagh, S Armagh, West Tryone, South Donegal
Casement better for Antrim, Derry, N Donegal, Down, North Armagh, East Tryone

So both would be 50 / 50, a northern stadium and a southern one

Does that not sound like a equal balanced solution

much rather head to Clones personally.

Maybe mentioned before, but are gate receipts in the south tax exempt and not in the north?

[general_lee]

Residents want 25k? They do realise of the "old" Casement was much bigger? Their reasons for wanting it smaller don't stand up to scrutiny - emergency exits, traffic etc. Were they as concerned when the old stadium was operational?

[Tony Baloney]

Residents want 25k? They do realise of the "old" Casement was much bigger? Their reasons for wanting it smaller don't stand up to scrutiny - emergency exits, traffic etc. Were they as concerned when the old stadium was operational?

There was only one stand and it wasn't looming over the local houses.

[Mourne Rover]

There is obviously an element of `build it and they will come' about the new Casement, but it is a fair point that the capacity of the old ground was seldom tested since the 1960s. Derry v Down in 1992, a clash between the reigning All Ireland champions and a side destined for the following year's title, got a massive crowd, probably in the vicinity of 30,000, but it is difficult to recall any match at the venue
since then which could not have accommodated within a 25,000 stadium. While there is talk of staging Super 8 ties at Casement, it all sounds a little vague as a reason for a 34,000 complex.

[armaghniac]

There is obviously an element of `build it and they will come' about the new Casement, but it is a fair point that the capacity of the old ground was seldom tested since the 1960s. Derry v Down in 1992, a clash between the reigning All Ireland champions and a side destined for the following year's title, got a massive crowd, probably in the vicinity of 30,000, but it is difficult to recall any match at the venue
since then which could not have accommodated within a 25,000 stadium. While there is talk of staging Super 8 ties at Casement, it all sounds a little vague as a reason for a 34,000 complex.

Armagh v Derry 2005 exceeded 25,000 and somewhat suggested a "Casement" crowd (as  Derry are not well supported).

The problem with Casement is its rather off centre location in Ireland generally (a bit like Wexford park or Killarney) and its location in a county with very limited support.  It is a good location for Down v Armagh Tyrone or Derry or Armagh/Tyrone v Derry and if some of these were going well it would test the capacity.  But it is no use for most games in a super 8.  But with a  capacity of 25000 it isn't much bigger than the run of Ulster county venues, and so hardly worth diverting games there.

[Milltown Row2]

Dublin east coast of Ireland. No good for Donegal Derry Kerry Clare Sligo Waterford Cork then? If you're talking logistics? Clones would have had same issues with the rest of the country as would Killarney Galwayand other counties that have sizeable grounds, it's getting built so move on