Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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whiskeysteve

deep excavation and de-watering next to a shallow found of a major structure with what kind of retaining works exactly???.... damn right they didnt have adequate provision
Somewhere, somehow, someone's going to pay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w

Wildweasel74

Serious accusation?Am sure there are some with a building / structural engineering back on here, the minute i seen they were building a pool behind the stand and didn't bother to have in place a proper sheet pile to act as a retaining wall, its the first point i look at with a ground slip failure causing partially collapse to the stand.

Nigel White

If your grasp of civil engineering is anything like your grasp of basic English grammar and punctuation, I hope we can be forgiven for not taking your opinions on this matter too seriously

armaghniac

it seems extremely likely that the neighbouring works had some role in the foundations slipping. The main question is who was involved in signing off on these. a number of people from consultant engineers to the H&S inspectors may be trying to hide at present.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

aontroim abu

Quote from: armaghniac on April 22, 2015, 11:20:03 PM
it seems extremely likely that the neighbouring works had some role in the foundations slipping. The main question is who was involved in signing off on these. a number of people from consultant engineers to the H&S inspectors may be trying to hide at present.

at last somebody has hit the nail

JoG2

Quote from: Nigel White on April 22, 2015, 11:02:34 PM
If your grasp of civil engineering is anything like your grasp of basic English grammar and punctuation, I hope we can be forgiven for not taking your opinions on this matter too seriously

Have you finished that sentence?

theskull1

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Walter Cronc

Any more word on the new Casement?

Will they have to re-design the ground to accommodate a smaller capacity?

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 23, 2015, 12:29:44 PM
Any more word on the new Casement?

Will they have to re-design the ground to accommodate a smaller capacity?
This is the official Windsor Park structural/civil engineering thread.


illdecide

Quote from: DuffleKing on April 30, 2015, 03:22:00 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32530978

I know Paul and he was there for my training for the Safety Officer role at Stadiums, he does things by the book and looks like a move was on to oust him out so that the plans could go ahead...it'll be interesting what follows :o
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

Clinker

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/safety-concerns-expressed-over-casement-park-plans-1.2195401?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Safety concerns expressed over Casement Park plans

Safety officer warns of Hillsborough situation at planned Belfast stadium



An expert has expressed concern about safety at the planned new Casement Park stadium in West Belfast.

Paul Scott from the Safety Technical Group said there were only two small exits and warned if an emergency happened, people could be crushed.

Approval for a new GAA facility – a proposed venue for Ireland's 2023 rugby World Cup bid – at the site was overturned in the High Court last December after residents won a legal challenge to block the plans.
   
Mr Scott said he was put under "undue pressure" by government officials to approve plans for the new ground.

He said: "There are a heck of a lot of people potentially trying to get out of a relatively small place."

He said the proposed 38,000-capacity stadium could not be emptied safely in an emergency and warned of a similar situation to the Hillsborough tragedy.

Mr Scott alleged he had been left stressed and suffering from sleepless nights following bullying by Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure (DCAL) officials.

"If we did have an incident and there was panic and if people tried to exit... crushing, that may be more a problem than fire.

"The people who suffer then are particularly the elderly, children, ladies.

"These GAA matches are very much family affairs."

He told Stormont's Culture, Arts and Leisure Committee people had to be able to get out in eight minutes at the most because of fire risk.

TheOptimist

Quote from: Clinker on April 30, 2015, 04:15:40 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/safety-concerns-expressed-over-casement-park-plans-1.2195401?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Safety concerns expressed over Casement Park plans

Safety officer warns of Hillsborough situation at planned Belfast stadium



An expert has expressed concern about safety at the planned new Casement Park stadium in West Belfast.

Paul Scott from the Safety Technical Group said there were only two small exits and warned if an emergency happened, people could be crushed.

Approval for a new GAA facility – a proposed venue for Ireland's 2023 rugby World Cup bid – at the site was overturned in the High Court last December after residents won a legal challenge to block the plans.
   
Mr Scott said he was put under "undue pressure" by government officials to approve plans for the new ground.

He said: "There are a heck of a lot of people potentially trying to get out of a relatively small place."

He said the proposed 38,000-capacity stadium could not be emptied safely in an emergency and warned of a similar situation to the Hillsborough tragedy.

Mr Scott alleged he had been left stressed and suffering from sleepless nights following bullying by Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure (DCAL) officials.

"If we did have an incident and there was panic and if people tried to exit... crushing, that may be more a problem than fire.

"The people who suffer then are particularly the elderly, children, ladies.

"These GAA matches are very much family affairs."

He told Stormont's Culture, Arts and Leisure Committee people had to be able to get out in eight minutes at the most because of fire risk.

If these allegations are true then those who are at the heart of them should be ashamed of themselves. If GAA people are involved they should banned from the organisation.

The thought that I and my family would be going to matches where their safety has been compromised makes me sick. Thank god these concerns have come to light before we potentially may have had a disaster on our hands.

johnneycool

Quote from: TheOptimist on April 30, 2015, 04:29:28 PM
Quote from: Clinker on April 30, 2015, 04:15:40 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/safety-concerns-expressed-over-casement-park-plans-1.2195401?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Safety concerns expressed over Casement Park plans

Safety officer warns of Hillsborough situation at planned Belfast stadium



An expert has expressed concern about safety at the planned new Casement Park stadium in West Belfast.

Paul Scott from the Safety Technical Group said there were only two small exits and warned if an emergency happened, people could be crushed.

Approval for a new GAA facility – a proposed venue for Ireland's 2023 rugby World Cup bid – at the site was overturned in the High Court last December after residents won a legal challenge to block the plans.
   
Mr Scott said he was put under "undue pressure" by government officials to approve plans for the new ground.

He said: "There are a heck of a lot of people potentially trying to get out of a relatively small place."

He said the proposed 38,000-capacity stadium could not be emptied safely in an emergency and warned of a similar situation to the Hillsborough tragedy.

Mr Scott alleged he had been left stressed and suffering from sleepless nights following bullying by Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure (DCAL) officials.

"If we did have an incident and there was panic and if people tried to exit... crushing, that may be more a problem than fire.

"The people who suffer then are particularly the elderly, children, ladies.

"These GAA matches are very much family affairs."

He told Stormont's Culture, Arts and Leisure Committee people had to be able to get out in eight minutes at the most because of fire risk.

If these allegations are true then those who are at the heart of them should be ashamed of themselves. If GAA people are involved they should banned from the organisation.

The thought that I and my family would be going to matches where their safety has been compromised makes me sick. Thank god these concerns have come to light before we potentially may have had a disaster on our hands.


So if the residents hadn't of stuck to their guns this wouldn't have went through anyway? I thought it was these greedy residents wanting to line their pockets as some would have us believe.


What is the story with the Andytown leisure centre? Is it getting pulled down to make more room? Thought there were a row of shops there anyway

Walter Cronc