Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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APM

Quote from: seafoid on May 31, 2022, 01:31:10 PM
Clones is as Ulster football as Cavan's 39 titles and goes back to partition plus NI's occasional lapses into communal violence. It's in the RoI and it can continue regardless of what chaos there is in the 6 counties. Cavan doesn't win as much when things are quiet. If Belfast has a fine stadium it should be used.

Seriously Seafoid? This is drivel!  You clearly don't have time to write out a reasoned post, so instead we have this one-liner, sweeping authoritative statement that does not stand up to scrutiny. I don't know why you do this because when you do take time to put together your thoughts they are worth reading. 

Dreadnought

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 31, 2022, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 31, 2022, 11:19:54 AM
It's just gona turn into another Cork mess with their stadium, Price materials went up 30% in the last year,

Sure, prices will be up, but it won't be a mess like Cork. This is set to be used regularly, and if built as meant to, will be fit for purpose. PUC was a white elephant even before being rebuilt

Really? When?

Antrims home ground. So at least 3 League games, and potential for more based on home draw in Ulster Championship. Add in the hurlers. You'll likely now seem Ulster semi finals there as well as the final. New Championship system next year with neutral venues needed for some will see games added to Championship and use there too. Remember, from 2023 onwards, there are now many more games and options for when it will be needed. As it will become the provinces defacto home stadium, and they'll set games there. I think it'll see a lot of games. It's vastly different than PUC

Dreadnought

Quote from: trailer on May 31, 2022, 01:43:10 PM
Clones is a dump. In this day and age we need a state of the art stadium to watch our games and future proof the spectators experience. This is a brand new free stadium. Why people are resisting it is beyond me. If the money isn't spent on this it'll be spent on some other project.

Exactly. Although no harm to upgrade Clones too, they've simply put just no money into it recently to keep it up to scratch.

JoG2

Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 31, 2022, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 31, 2022, 11:19:54 AM
It's just gona turn into another Cork mess with their stadium, Price materials went up 30% in the last year,

Sure, prices will be up, but it won't be a mess like Cork. This is set to be used regularly, and if built as meant to, will be fit for purpose. PUC was a white elephant even before being rebuilt

Really? When?

Antrims home ground. So at least 3 League games, and potential for more based on home draw in Ulster Championship. Add in the hurlers. You'll likely now seem Ulster semi finals there as well as the final. New Championship system next year with neutral venues needed for some will see games added to Championship and use there too. Remember, from 2023 onwards, there are now many more games and options for when it will be needed. As it will become the provinces defacto home stadium, and they'll set games there. I think it'll see a lot of games. It's vastly different than PUC

And all generated revenue taxed to the hilt no?

Dreadnought

Quote from: JoG2 on May 31, 2022, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 31, 2022, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 31, 2022, 11:19:54 AM
It's just gona turn into another Cork mess with their stadium, Price materials went up 30% in the last year,

Sure, prices will be up, but it won't be a mess like Cork. This is set to be used regularly, and if built as meant to, will be fit for purpose. PUC was a white elephant even before being rebuilt

Really? When?

Antrims home ground. So at least 3 League games, and potential for more based on home draw in Ulster Championship. Add in the hurlers. You'll likely now seem Ulster semi finals there as well as the final. New Championship system next year with neutral venues needed for some will see games added to Championship and use there too. Remember, from 2023 onwards, there are now many more games and options for when it will be needed. As it will become the provinces defacto home stadium, and they'll set games there. I think it'll see a lot of games. It's vastly different than PUC

And all generated revenue taxed to the hilt no?

Probably. Unless they get some way around it. What's the alternative though? Clones is done without huge investment...

Wildweasel74

5/7 yrs of delays by orders to something which was always going to be passed, what was the point, I seen this with the M2 run to Castledawson, the work was always gonna get passed in the long run.

sam03/05

Clones is a dump stuck in the 1980s.
Had kids there at weekend, toilet facilities woeful, more or less no cover to the elements ( yes it was good day thankfully) , Try bringing very young kids, no where to get food, a drink of water.
Or bring them to the toilet.
A new modern stadium with proper facilities would be brilliant
And for Belfast as well for concerts etc

Walter Cronc

Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Franko

Without doubt.

Funding is going to be a major issue here.

The shinners have a problem, in that they will have to campaign for this to be funded whilst also explaining why the money shouldn't be going to mitigate the cost of living crisis.

A sticky wicket

A good day for the Gaels of Ulster all the same.

And a bad day for our resident planter (I hope he's not too offended), who seems to have a real bee in his bonnet about this particular topic.

Even sweeter that this slap in the teeth was delivered to him by the notoriously impartial British judicial system  ::)

Dreadnought

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Money already ring fenced as it was agreed, along with Winsdor and Ravenhill. Don't think they can stop anything on it now as it was part of the deal not to build a national stadium for all 3.

Franko

Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Money already ring fenced as it was agreed, along with Winsdor and Ravenhill. Don't think they can stop anything on it now as it was part of the deal not to build a national stadium for all 3.

The original funding was ringfenced.

The extra £40m? or so that the delay has added to the cost has yet to be found.

The GAA are adamant that they are not increasing their original £15m contribution

So that basically leaves Stormont

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Money already ring fenced as it was agreed, along with Winsdor and Ravenhill. Don't think they can stop anything on it now as it was part of the deal not to build a national stadium for all 3.

Partitionist Spake there

Dreadnought

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 31, 2022, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Money already ring fenced as it was agreed, along with Winsdor and Ravenhill. Don't think they can stop anything on it now as it was part of the deal not to build a national stadium for all 3.

Partitionist Spake there

Oof, I know. Should know better as I live in the 6. Weren't they calling it something like that? The thing at the Maze?

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 31, 2022, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Money already ring fenced as it was agreed, along with Winsdor and Ravenhill. Don't think they can stop anything on it now as it was part of the deal not to build a national stadium for all 3.

Partitionist Spake there

Oof, I know. Should know better as I live in the 6. Weren't they calling it something like that? The thing at the Maze?

lol lad , they be calling you a stoop on here in a minute, yeah I think they were trying to throw that term at it

Rossfan

Quote from: Franko on May 31, 2022, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2022, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2022, 03:24:45 PM
Surely the DUP are going to turn this request for extra funding into a political football. They've a brass neck of course but we know what they're like.

Money already ring fenced as it was agreed, along with Winsdor and Ravenhill. Don't think they can stop anything on it now as it was part of the deal not to build a national stadium for all 3.

The original funding was ringfenced.

The extra £40m? or so that the delay has added to the cost has yet to be found.

The GAA are adamant that they are not increasing their original £15m contribution

So that basically leaves Stormont
Build what ye can with the money available!
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM