Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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armaghniac

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on March 01, 2024, 09:19:13 PM308 million tell them to get to f**k a lot of builders in this country take the piss meanwhile in Germany £120 million gets this 35000 mixed seating terrace stadium

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildparkstadion

And "Works are being carried out in stages so that matches can be played on the existing pitch in front of at least 15,000 spectators.", so this should be more expensive than Casement where they threw Antrim out years ago, so the builders have complete use of the site.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B


AustinPowers

Am I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

Feckitt

If Casement doesn't happen due to bigotry and sectarianism then that truly will be the final nail in the coffin for Northern Ireland.  Nolan, Alistair etc just can't see that.

weareros

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

AustinPowers

Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current   Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Feckitt on March 01, 2024, 09:59:06 PMIf Casement doesn't happen due to bigotry and sectarianism then that truly will be the final nail in the coffin for Northern Ireland.  Nolan, Alistair etc just can't see that.
It's estimated to cost around 4 times the original £77m. The GAA refuse to budge on the £15m they pledged 15 years ago.
But bigotry & sectarianism....

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?


Exactly what a farce. I want the euros in Belfast but you can't justify these costs they are insane. Its sounds like a hell of a lot of lads are getting big brown envelopes at that rate

weareros

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

I believe they don't allow temporary seating for the Euros which would mean the Hill end would be empty.

The main point is U.K./Ireland bid submitted Casement Park so the British government should do the honouable thing and pay up. It's not as if the Euros won't be contributing to their economy. Heaton Harris is playing to the bigots of the world with his we won't pay if it costs too much. They committed to hosting and committed to this stadium so get the wallet out.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on March 01, 2024, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?


Exactly what a farce. I want the euros in Belfast but you can't justify these costs they are insane. Its sounds like a hell of a lot of lads are getting big brown envelopes at that rate

Exactly. At what price are people willing to shout stop at?
I mean, the GAA are shouting stop at £15m of their own money.

Dreadnought

Folks do you think it won't pay itself off even at that price? So who cares, honestly. Should have been 13 years ago. The price increase is due to others, but even so will still pay itself off

Walter Cronc

Can anyone have a guess at what the UEFA requirements would be that would cause a further price hike? Think in Dunedin, New Zealand they built an all seater covered stadium for 100 odd million. That would be my aim if I was to start this charade over again

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

I believe they don't allow temporary seating for the Euros which would mean the Hill end would be empty.

The main point is U.K./Ireland bid submitted Casement Park so the British government should do the honouable thing and pay up. It's not as if the Euros won't be contributing to their economy. Heaton Harris is playing to the bigots of the world with his we won't pay if it costs too much. They committed to hosting and committed to this stadium so get the wallet out.
Though if the Brit government doesn't pony up for Casement then an alternative venue will be found in England and they will still reap the rewards of the Euros?

AustinPowers

Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

I believe they don't allow temporary seating for the Euros which would mean the Hill end would be empty.

The main point is U.K./Ireland bid submitted Casement Park so the British government should do the honouable thing and pay up. It's not as if the Euros won't be contributing to their economy. Heaton Harris is playing to the bigots of the world with his we won't pay if it costs too much. They committed to hosting and committed to this stadium so get the wallet out.

Ha! Honourable? The Tories?!! 

They'll just move the  Casement games to  Glasgow or Liverpool , and  pin the failure of NI not being involved  on the GAA, Irish  government and Sinn Fein .

How much  for a non-UEFA approved Casement ? Is it still £308m?

I was all on for the Euros coming , but between the bigoted NI fans , unionist parties,  and the Tories,  then F**k the lot of them. Screw the  Euros, just build  Casement for the GAA.

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: weareros on March 01, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2024, 09:50:42 PMAm I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

I believe they don't allow temporary seating for the Euros which would mean the Hill end would be empty.

The main point is U.K./Ireland bid submitted Casement Park so the British government should do the honouable thing and pay up. It's not as if the Euros won't be contributing to their economy. Heaton Harris is playing to the bigots of the world with his we won't pay if it costs too much. They committed to hosting and committed to this stadium so get the wallet out.

Ha! Honourable? The Tories?!! 

They'll just move the  Casement games to  Glasgow or Liverpool , and  pin the failure of NI not being involved  on the GAA, Irish  government and Sinn Fein .

How much  for a non-UEFA approved Casement ? Is it still £308m?

I was all on for the Euros coming , but between the bigoted NI fans , unionist parties,  and the Tories,  then F**k the lot of them. Screw the  Euros, just build  Casement for the GAA.

Am very much of the same mindset. f**k them at this stage. There must be private money which can be sourced to get Casement built without Tory money. I know that would come with a lot of strings attached and payback but hell rub it up them if it could be built without them.