Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[armaghniac]

Páirc Uí Chaoimh won't be available for Cork's home group game in the AI/TC due to the Springsteen concert.

Then again it's only oul football the Hurley stuff isn't affected 🙄

They have to claw back some money for these white elephant stadiums. GAA crowds are rapidly declining due to many factors, and the big crowds are few and far between.

I'd seriously question what GAA matches would even fill the new Casement with the Ulster Champ being slowly downgraded now every year. We're told there isn't even going be much parking? All the moaning about parking in fields in Clones, at least they had actual place to park.

There mightn't even be an Ulster Championship in 5 years the way the GAA is going.

That is a genuine problem, because that completely undermines Casement. Its only hope are Ulster finals.

So no games will be played in the north?

Some would, but Casement has no significant home crowd, and it is only a suitable mid point for a few combinations. An Ulster championship forces those combinations, other systems will not.

You'd be a complete fool if you think if it went down as no provincial finals route that Casement wouldn't be used to get more fans in to generate more money..

Oh, let's get 10000 people into another ground when 20,000 want to watch the match... now let's see where that game gets appointed?

Seriously? There are plenty on complaining about not getting tickets for games or whatever, Casement will get games in either format

Casement is in a corner of Ireland. Which games will it get?

[Milltown Row2]

Páirc Uí Chaoimh won't be available for Cork's home group game in the AI/TC due to the Springsteen concert.

Then again it's only oul football the Hurley stuff isn't affected 🙄

They have to claw back some money for these white elephant stadiums. GAA crowds are rapidly declining due to many factors, and the big crowds are few and far between.

I'd seriously question what GAA matches would even fill the new Casement with the Ulster Champ being slowly downgraded now every year. We're told there isn't even going be much parking? All the moaning about parking in fields in Clones, at least they had actual place to park.

There mightn't even be an Ulster Championship in 5 years the way the GAA is going.

That is a genuine problem, because that completely undermines Casement. Its only hope are Ulster finals.

So no games will be played in the north?

Some would, but Casement has no significant home crowd, and it is only a suitable mid point for a few combinations. An Ulster championship forces those combinations, other systems will not.

You'd be a complete fool if you think if it went down as no provincial finals route that Casement wouldn't be used to get more fans in to generate more money..

Oh, let's get 10000 people into another ground when 20,000 want to watch the match... now let's see where that game gets appointed?

Seriously? There are plenty on complaining about not getting tickets for games or whatever, Casement will get games in either format

Casement is in a corner of Ireland. Which games will it get?

Are you being serious? Belfast is 1.30 from Dublin. 2 hours from deep in Donegal.. 2.45 from Galway 4 hours from Cork.... How big do you think Ireland is?

If Casement is built it'll get games, as it will be the best stadium outside of Croke.

People go to Croke from all over the island..there are plenty counties further away to Dublin than Belfast

[LeoMc]

Dublin / Meath v Donegal / Derry / Armagh / Tyrone

Fermanagh v Wicklow / Louth

[RadioGAAGAA]

I take it all those advocating for this design have no issues with the price of tickets to games. Indeed, have no issues with the price of tickets to games (in casement) jumping.

They'll need to increase to pay for it and without any terracing, there won't be a good spread of ticket price points.

It's a design that is not placing the main user at the centre. It's built for concerts and the odd soccer/rugby game. Bad top level requirements = doomed to failure.

I keep repeating myself but I'll say it again - this is not a design that anyone with the best interests of the GAA in Ulster (and I suppose enough intelligence to look beyond the bling) should be supporting.

[Saffrongael]

I take it all those advocating for this design have no issues with the price of tickets to games. Indeed, have no issues with the price of tickets to games (in casement) jumping.

They'll need to increase to pay for it and without any terracing, there won't be a good spread of ticket price points.

It's a design that is not placing the main user at the centre. It's built for concerts and the odd soccer/rugby game. Bad top level requirements = doomed to failure.

I keep repeating myself but I'll say it again - this is not a design that anyone with the best interests of the GAA in Ulster (and I suppose enough intelligence to look beyond the bling) should be supporting.

I agree with your point but it's not all seater so you would assume there will be (slightly) cheaper tickets

[RadioGAAGAA]

I agree with your point but it's not all seater so you would assume there will be (slightly) cheaper tickets

It effectively is if your replacing one person sitting with one person standing. Which is what the folding seats do.

Spectator density doesn't change so price changes come at effective loss to organisers. Which the Gaa won't wear for the first reason of the original post - paying for it!

[Rossfan]

Any whisper on the thing starting?

[RedHand88]

Every major ground in Ireland is "in a corner of Ireland". Celtic Park, Casement, Croke, Salthill, Pairc ui chaoimh. Cities tend to be on the coast due to the history of sea ports etc. That is where the big stadiums will also be.

[armaghniac]

Every major ground in Ireland is "in a corner of Ireland". Celtic Park, Casement, Croke, Salthill, Pairc ui chaoimh. Cities tend to be on the coast due to the history of sea ports etc. That is where the big stadiums will also be.

Spoken like a man with no interest in hurling, since Semple Stadium and Nowlan Park are not.
Croke Pk and Salthill are in the middle of the island in one dimension, Pairc ui Chaoimh, Wexford Park, Celitc Park are not.

[Milltown Row2]

Every major ground in Ireland is "in a corner of Ireland". Celtic Park, Casement, Croke, Salthill, Pairc ui chaoimh. Cities tend to be on the coast due to the history of sea ports etc. That is where the big stadiums will also be.

Spoken like a man with no interest in hurling, since Semple Stadium and Nowlan Park are not.
Croke Pk and Salthill are in the middle of the island in one dimension, Pairc ui Chaoimh, Wexford Park, Celitc Park are not.

Salthill is on the west coast and Dublin is the east coast!

This is stupid.. Radiogaga is correct the capacity is too much for our (GAA) needs but hey ho, it's getting done and let's move on...

[RedHand88]

Every major ground in Ireland is "in a corner of Ireland". Celtic Park, Casement, Croke, Salthill, Pairc ui chaoimh. Cities tend to be on the coast due to the history of sea ports etc. That is where the big stadiums will also be.

Spoken like a man with no interest in hurling, since Semple Stadium and Nowlan Park are not.
Croke Pk and Salthill are in the middle of the island in one dimension, Pairc ui Chaoimh, Wexford Park, Celitc Park are not.

You are absolutely right there.

[Rossfan]

The old "Hayshed" stand in Tuam had its last outing today as Galway's Menlough defeated Ros Champions St Michaels in the Connacht JFC.
To be demolished Monday week and a new Stand to be built.

[twohands!!!]

Are you being serious? Belfast is 1.30 from Dublin. 2 hours from deep in Donegal.. 2.45 from Galway 4 hours from Cork.... How big do you think Ireland is?

If Casement is built it'll get games, as it will be the best stadium outside of Croke.

People go to Croke from all over the island..there are plenty counties further away to Dublin than Belfast

Something else to add to the long list of things said about both Pairc ui Chaoimh and Casement before work started there.
The lads in Cork had visions of all sorts of big intercounty games being played there.
The current state of play in Cork is that the Munster Council is hesitant to put on a fair few pairings of games there because they know that ticket sales are lower there than for other venues in Munster.

[armaghniac]

Salthill is on the west coast and Dublin is the east coast!

Glad to see that you were paying attention at school.
These places have counties to their north and counties to their south and so make a feasible neutral venue. In the case of Cork and Casement they are only useful for a game between Galicia and Scotland.

[RedHand88]

Get er up.