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Title: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Duine Eile on August 12, 2010, 11:01:18 PM
From Hogan Stand

"Joyce turns down Laois

12 August 2010

Padraic Joyce has rebuffed attempts by Laois to lure him to the midlands.

The veteran Galway attacker, who could continue on playing next year, is understood to have spoken to Laois officials in recent days about the possibility of him succeeding Sean Dempsey as senior football manager.

He is the latest high-profile name to have turned down the O'Moore County. Seamus McEnaney, who has committed to Monaghan for three more years, and former Kerry midfielder Darragh O Se were also approached.


Pat Roe, who has been nominated for the position along with Mick O'Dwyer and Ollie Phelan, this week criticised the Laois county board for stalling on the appointment of a new manager."


Where did Laois get this notion out of? The man hasn't even made a decision about his retirement yet and they want him to become their manager? It's a bit strange!
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: haze on August 12, 2010, 11:10:24 PM
The incompetence is frightening... No such thing as behind closed door negotiations!

I presume there must be some link there between someone involved in Laois GAA circles and Joyce- otherwise its just bizzare asking a intercounty footballer who has not even retired yet...

Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Logan on August 13, 2010, 07:24:10 AM
Laois must be running out of names to call soon ... surely they will get to Pat Roe eventually???

How must he feel after Laois have approached every other possible canditate (Dara, Banty, Joyce) and then they will probably end up offering it to him and I doubt with the same financial resources available to him either!
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: cogito on August 13, 2010, 12:42:30 PM
What in the name of god inspired them to ask Joyce? Has he any coaching experience at all?

Pat Roe is screaming for the job, but instead they have offered it to two IC players with basically no managerial experience what so ever. Harsh  :P
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Dont Matter on August 13, 2010, 01:52:23 PM
The county board have other names on their list before they ask Roe. Some of them include Whelan, Mortimor, Sheflin, Jayo, Gooch, and Pat Spilane. They know what they're doing.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: muppet on August 13, 2010, 01:53:25 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on August 13, 2010, 01:52:23 PM
The county board have other names on their list before they ask Roe. Some of them include Whelan, Mortimor, Sheflin, Jayo, Gooch, and Pat Spilane. They know what they're doing.

You left out a Tyrone U-21 and the Mayo minor Captain.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: ExiledGael on August 13, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
Where is Joyce living? Heard rumours of a Monaghan/Clontibret link.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Duine Eile on August 13, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
He's still living around Tuam as far as I know but he's engaged to a girl from Monaghan.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 14, 2010, 12:28:30 AM
Quote from: haze on August 12, 2010, 11:10:24 PM
The incompetence is frightening... No such thing as behind closed door negotiations!

I presume there must be some link there between someone involved in Laois GAA circles and Joyce- otherwise its just bizzare asking a intercounty footballer who has not even retired yet...

Nothing is bizarre in Laois,anything could happen.
I expect they will ask Raymond Domenech next,he has experience with another Les Bleus team so there is a link there. 
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Bud Wiser on August 14, 2010, 09:42:04 AM
Maybe they should offer the job to Mick Lawlor who had so much to say about the wrong methods of training, the wrong tactics and the wrong everything about Dempsey in the Leinster Express before during and after important matches when Dempsey was in the middle of his term.  There is far too much made of the title "Manager" in counties such as Laois and it is about time for a training panel that can work together to be assembled like old days. If that panel of three has to be Lawlor, Roe and Dempsey all working together for the benefit of the county they might, just might, get a panel of players all working together for the county as well.  The former three will obviously never work together but surely there should be three good men in the county who can get their heads together.  Instead we have, in the right corner, The Justice for Donie Brennan Brigade, and in the left corner Criticise The Manager Brigade etc, etc. and on and on it goes, year after year.

The problem is they will end up with neither manager, team or for that matter supporters. I hate to say this but I have got to the stage where I could not care less if they never won another game because I am sick and tired of the way every manager ends up being treated from the time of Tom Cribben to the latest episode with Dempsey.  Last week I tore a Laois sticker off the back of my jeep and when I find one I will replace it with a Dubs one.  In fact, outside of Pat Roe does anyone want the Laois job?  You'd want to be off your rocker !  Maybe Colm Parkinson has a point after all.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 14, 2010, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Bud Wiser on August 14, 2010, 09:42:04 AM
Maybe they should offer the job to Mick Lawlor who had so much to say about the wrong methods of training, the wrong tactics and the wrong everything about Dempsey in the Leinster Express before during and after important matches when Dempsey was in the middle of his term.  There is far too much made of the title "Manager" in counties such as Laois and it is about time for a training panel that can work together to be assembled like old days. If that panel of three has to be Lawlor, Roe and Dempsey all working together for the benefit of the county they might, just might, get a panel of players all working together for the county as well.  The former three will obviously never work together but surely there should be three good men in the county who can get their heads together.  Instead we have, in the right corner, The Justice for Donie Brennan Brigade, and in the left corner Criticise The Manager Brigade etc, etc. and on and on it goes, year after year.

The problem is they will end up with neither manager, team or for that matter supporters. I hate to say this but I have got to the stage where I could not care less if they never won another game because I am sick and tired of the way every manager ends up being treated from the time of Tom Cribben to the latest episode with Dempsey.  Last week I tore a Laois sticker off the back of my jeep and when I find one I will replace it with a Dubs one.  In fact, outside of Pat Roe does anyone want the Laois job?  You'd want to be off your rocker !  Maybe Colm Parkinson has a point after all.

However bad things get don't ever cross over to the dark side and put anything blue & navy on your car.
The bit in bold is the whole problem with Laois in both football and hurling,no one is willing to work "together" in the county,it be a disaster anyways they all think they know more than the other,sure the players thought they knew more than Micko.

I actually think they should give Mick Lawlor the job,if not him then maybe Trudi Lalor might be available,she could sing Lovely Laois to them before every game.

What about Michael Dempsey? He must have picked up a few tips from Cody on training a bunch of fellas,then why would he want to leave a county winning All Ireland's every year to come back home to Laois where the people are so friendly and so fine (Go Trudi !)
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: haze on August 14, 2010, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: Bud Wiser on August 14, 2010, 09:42:04 AM
Maybe they should offer the job to Mick Lawlor who had so much to say about the wrong methods of training, the wrong tactics and the wrong everything about Dempsey in the Leinster Express before during and after important matches when Dempsey was in the middle of his term.  There is far too much made of the title "Manager" in counties such as Laois and it is about time for a training panel that can work together to be assembled like old days. If that panel of three has to be Lawlor, Roe and Dempsey all working together for the benefit of the county they might, just might, get a panel of players all working together for the county as well.  The former three will obviously never work together but surely there should be three good men in the county who can get their heads together.  Instead we have, in the right corner, The Justice for Donie Brennan Brigade, and in the left corner Criticise The Manager Brigade etc, etc. and on and on it goes, year after year.

The problem is they will end up with neither manager, team or for that matter supporters. I hate to say this but I have got to the stage where I could not care less if they never won another game because I am sick and tired of the way every manager ends up being treated from the time of Tom Cribben to the latest episode with Dempsey.  Last week I tore a Laois sticker off the back of my jeep and when I find one I will replace it with a Dubs one.  In fact, outside of Pat Roe does anyone want the Laois job?  You'd want to be off your rocker !  Maybe Colm Parkinson has a point after all.

To be fair Mick Lawlor called it like it was week in week out and certainly seemed to take no joy in how uncompetitive Laois have become at top intercounty level. Most of his articles were refreshing to read as he hit the nail on the head more often than not

Sean had his go at it- disclipline, fitness and morale all improved in his second year with the team but that didnt escape the fact that the team were utterly clueless in possession of the ball once it got past midfield. It was painful to watch in Tullamore that night against Meath. Granted the resources he had at his disposal were not great but they are certainly good enough to produce a better more competitive brand of football than we've produced over last 2 years. So in this instance it was definitely a time for change of management.

Though Bud, i have to agree that the mess the county board are making of finding a replacement is damaging players and supporters alike. Just have a read the new manager thread on Laoistalk.com and you'll get a feeling for the mood within the county!

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on August 14, 2010, 10:57:42 AM

What about Michael Dempsey? He must have picked up a few tips from Cody on training a bunch of fellas,then why would he want to leave a county winning All Ireland's every year to come back home to Laois where the people are so friendly and so fine (Go Trudi !)

Michael Dempsey would be the most interesting option i think within the county though after his brother left on such bad terms i cant see this happening.






Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: armaghniac on August 14, 2010, 07:29:23 PM
It was stated on the afternoon RTE sports programme that Armagh man Justin McNulty has been given this job!
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: haze on August 14, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
Not bad
Quote from: armaghniac on August 14, 2010, 07:29:23 PM
It was stated on the afternoon RTE sports programme that Armagh man Justin McNulty has been given this job!


Not bad- just in time for the 2nd round of the Senior championship next week
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Dont Matter on August 15, 2010, 12:41:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 14, 2010, 07:29:23 PM
It was stated on the afternoon RTE sports programme that Armagh man Justin McNulty has been given this job!

Can you give us any local knowledge on this fella? What has he done since he won the All-Ireland? Was he working with Armagh this year? Is he going to be better than Geezer as a manager?
If Enda is involved along with his brother, doing his mind tricks, I'd be delighted with this.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: GAA_Punter on August 15, 2010, 01:04:53 PM
McNulty Set To Be Named New Laois Senior Football Manager

http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/08/15/mcnulty-set-to-be-named-new-laois-senior-football-manager/
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2010, 01:20:38 PM
Looks like a step in the right direction for Laois, in fairness will need his brother if he wants to get into the head of a Laois footballer..

http://www.motiv8.ie/pages/team.asp
(http://www.motiv8.ie/pages/team.asp)

Justin McNulty – Project Director & Performance Coach

With an Honours Degree in Civil Engineering from Queens University Belfast, Justin worked as Project Manager from 2002 to 2008 before opting to join his brother Enda to coordinate and manage the growing range of services offered by MOTIV8.

Justin's project management skills were put to immediate use when in the months leading up to August 2009 he planned and coordinated the inaugural MOTIV8 Academy in UCD Campus bringing together seventy five teenagers from a wide variety of sports backgrounds. This unique undertaking focussed on delivering athletic and character development to runners and polo crosse players, gaelic footballers and hurlers, boxers and surfers, rugby, hockey basketball and soccer players, from both sexes. Academy athletes were coached in leadership development, team building, mental toughness and confidence development, communication skills and goal setting for sport and life. Each Academy athlete was introduced to athletic screening followed by expert coaching in coordination training, strength and conditioning, athletic development, speed coaching, functional training, core conditioning, nutrition and hydration for athletes.

This was a pioneering and innovative event for Justin and Ireland - A successful MOTIV8 Academy for young people from a wide spectrum of backgrounds and sports, encouraging cross fertilization of ideas and learning strategies, and providing a model which will be repeated by MOTIV8 across Ireland in the future months and years; providing a peerless networking opportunity for aspirant sports teens to share ideas and skills and especially to be coached in those qualities which span all sports and which are paramount to success namely confidence, mental toughness and character.

Justin also works with teams from various sports providing expert skills coaching and tactical strategies assisting teams to perform to their potential in those "big match" situations when so many unprepared teams buckle under pressure.

Justin played for Armagh for ten years winning five Ulster Championships, a National League and played full back on the team that beat Kerry to win the All Ireland in 2002. He also captained the Queen's University Belfast Sigerson team for three years and won a Ulster Club Championship in 1995.

Justin has also managed at senior club level and steered Mullahoran to Cavan Championship success in 2006 and led St. Brigid's to the Dublin Club Final the following year. Justin is currently Armagh senior team coach.

In summary, Justin is passionate about sports and thoroughly enjoys creating an environment whereby sports men and women can perform to their potential.
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: The Boy Wonder on August 16, 2010, 12:16:41 AM
I reckon Pat Roe should have been given a shot at it. He did a good job with Wexford and as good as could be expected with Carlow. Might be perceived to have but bombed a bit with Offaly but the Faithful were at a low ebb.

I'm assuming that Justin McNulty will be somewhat similar to Kieran McGeeny. It has taken Kildare a few years to adapt to the systematic approach but I'm not sure Laois could follow successfully. In the League Laois seemed to have got to grips with defending and attacking as a unit, dropping a man back, but it went out the window in the championship.

I think the Laois mentality is more inclined to the off the cuff / give it a lash approach - Micko suited Laois in this regard.

No matter what the tactics you need at least 7-8 above average inter-county players in key positions - currently Laois have about 4-5 at the most.

Anyway, good luck to Justin McNulty. If the players give him 100% commitment maybe they will be in a position to challenge for honours in a year or two.

Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 18, 2010, 09:39:39 PM
Pity about him being from Armagh it really is,but we will forgive him that if he is successful
Title: Re: "Padraic Joyce Turns Down Laois"
Post by: ardmhachaabu on August 18, 2010, 11:03:06 PM
I'd say Laois will go further downward with this appointment.

Happy days!  ;D