NFL Division 1 2024

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Wildweasel74

How is not been A soft touch and going down pretending to be hurt when they not, even in the same category. It's pretty pathetic to be honest. Too many lads watching the soccer.

Rufus T Firefly

Quote from: Armamike on February 19, 2023, 09:51:43 PM
When teams win everything is rosy. When they lose, it's a disaster.  Armagh weren't terrible today.  By that I mean we were in with a shout of getting something from the game right to the end.  Our downfall was we didn't convert a number of gilt edged goal chances. The one in particular before the Ros penalty was a potential game changer.  Bag that one and we're in a good position to kick on.

Agree totally, Mike, and to me there is an underlying issue. We have dominated for long periods in all three games to date and have one goal to show for it, and that was a gift from Beggan that he had to give us twice before we took it. Oisin McConville always talked about the need to be ruthless when goal chances presented and that was never better displayed than today when points were taken when an extra pass could have seen a green flag.

The Rossies around me could see nothing but an Armagh win at half time and although we had played well, I've followed Armagh for too long to predict a win from a good first half performance. The second half was a shocker and I'd be interested to see if one or two of our ever present players get the bench in Tralee. 

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Good win today but a lot of silly things too.
But seems a soundness or solidity in the squad and we're taking no çrap.
We're top of Div 1.
A month ago most of us would have expected to be still looking for a first win .
Let's enjoy the spin and see where it takes us.
If you compare D1 and D2 , D2 is a bear pit because of the Sam Maguire. Derry didn't just beat Meath. They hammered them.
6/7 teams in D1 are taking it handy and Ros did not because they didn't want to get relegated.
If it is a quarter final in CP and Ros are playing Tyrone who wins ? That is the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo

Cunny Funt

Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Good win today but a lot of silly things too.
But seems a soundness or solidity in the squad and we're taking no çrap.
We're top of Div 1.
A month ago most of us would have expected to be still looking for a first win .
Let's enjoy the spin and see where it takes us.
If you compare D1 and D2 , D2 is a bear pit because of the Sam Maguire. Derry didn't just beat Meath. They hammered them.
6/7 teams in D1 are taking it handy and Ros did not because they didn't want to get relegated.
If it is a quarter final in CP and Ros are playing Tyrone who wins ? That is the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo

Most teams in Div 1 before the league started didn't want to get relegated was their main objective, what you want doesn't always happen so would be easier for you to give the credit to the rossies as they deserve.

Going on Tyrone's form since winning the All Ireland in 2021 I'll be surprised if they even reaching a AI quarter final.

Rossfan

Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Good win today but a lot of silly things too.
But seems a soundness or solidity in the squad and we're taking no çrap.
We're top of Div 1.
A month ago most of us would have expected to be still looking for a first win .
Let's enjoy the spin and see where it takes us.
If you compare D1 and D2 , D2 is a bear pit because of the Sam Maguire. Derry didn't just beat Meath. They hammered them.
6/7 teams in D1 are taking it handy and Ros did not because they didn't want to get relegated.
If it is a quarter final in CP and Ros are playing Tyrone who wins ? That is the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo
Yes Seaf, sure we're absolutely useless and won't win a single Championship match.
Longford were the January Champs, we'll be the February Champs and will then go back to where the likes if us belong.
The arrogant herrin choker coming out in you Seaf.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

weareros

Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Good win today but a lot of silly things too.
But seems a soundness or solidity in the squad and we're taking no çrap.
We're top of Div 1.
A month ago most of us would have expected to be still looking for a first win .
Let's enjoy the spin and see where it takes us.
If you compare D1 and D2 , D2 is a bear pit because of the Sam Maguire. Derry didn't just beat Meath. They hammered them.
6/7 teams in D1 are taking it handy and Ros did not because they didn't want to get relegated.
If it is a quarter final in CP and Ros are playing Tyrone who wins ? That is the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo

Ros did not even have a manager until Oct 26th, and even then he was managing Maynooth in Sigerson until mid January. As far as we are concerned most teams are ahead of us in the fitness work done. So in that respect, it's great and quite a surprise to win first three games. But the media narrative will be that we are ahead of everyone else with work done and flying it at the moment.

Main Street

Quote from: Ringfort on February 19, 2023, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 19, 2023, 07:50:45 PM
Never mind referees , players or bad decisions that pitch in Dr Hyde Park is terrible. Players slipping everywhere. Someone could get badly injured.

A friend of mine played County hurling on it. Said it was one of the best pitches he was ever on. The old surface before it was relayed was old school. A bumpy field.

Ros were certainly guilty of buying frees and feigning injury. Its not great to see but most teams utilise the dark arts these days. Ros were a soft naive team before this year. We are sick of the narrative of great forwards but conceding monster scores once anyone has a right go at us. So, personally I will accept a bit of cynical stuff as that is part of the streetwise game management that top teams often have. We appear miles ahead of where we were in that regard and not such a soft touch tactically anymore.
The player sells the foul and the ref buys it. I don't mind that so much as that's the ref's fault  but the feigning injury part is a pox on the game, it's about the worst of the dark arts.

armaghniac

Quote from: Main Street on February 20, 2023, 12:00:40 AM
The player sells the foul and the ref buys it. I don't mind that so much as that's the ref's fault  but the feigning injury part is a pox on the game, it's about the worst of the dark arts.

Armagh are certainly guilty of sloppy tackling, but it is disappointing to see a player go down holding his face when the foul was pulling his arm.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: weareros on February 19, 2023, 11:58:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Good win today but a lot of silly things too.
But seems a soundness or solidity in the squad and we're taking no çrap.
We're top of Div 1.
A month ago most of us would have expected to be still looking for a first win .
Let's enjoy the spin and see where it takes us.
If you compare D1 and D2 , D2 is a bear pit because of the Sam Maguire. Derry didn't just beat Meath. They hammered them.
6/7 teams in D1 are taking it handy and Ros did not because they didn't want to get relegated.
If it is a quarter final in CP and Ros are playing Tyrone who wins ? That is the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo

Ros did not even have a manager until Oct 26th, and even then he was managing Maynooth in Sigerson until mid January. As far as we are concerned most teams are ahead of us in the fitness work done. So in that respect, it's great and quite a surprise to win first three games. But the media narrative will be that we are ahead of everyone else with work done and flying it at the moment.
Having said that , the League  title may be available.

Applesisapples

Armagh butchered enough chances to win two games. Poor decision making in the final third. Conor Lane though is one of the worst refs around so inconsistent for both teams. This holding the face as if you've been hit by Mike Tyson is endemic in soccer and now coming into GAA. Refs buying it wholesale in both codes, time to stamp it out.

Mario

Quote from: Applesisapples on February 20, 2023, 09:04:18 AM
Armagh butchered enough chances to win two games. Poor decision making in the final third. Conor Lane though is one of the worst refs around so inconsistent for both teams. This holding the face as if you've been hit by Mike Tyson is endemic in soccer and now coming into GAA. Refs buying it wholesale in both codes, time to stamp it out.
7 min of added time i think and they kept trying to get goal chances. I think there were 2 easy fists over the bar that would have brought them within a point with a few minutes left. Rossies did miss a very easy goal chance near the end too

square_ball

Quote from: Applesisapples on February 20, 2023, 09:04:18 AM
Armagh butchered enough chances to win two games. Poor decision making in the final third. Conor Lane though is one of the worst refs around so inconsistent for both teams. This holding the face as if you've been hit by Mike Tyson is endemic in soccer and now coming into GAA. Refs buying it wholesale in both codes, time to stamp it out.

The one where an arm comes across the chest and the player goes down holding his head. You see it multiple times in every single game from every team. Its the physios and doctors I feel sorry for having to come on and carry out their checks knowing rightly there is sweet FA wrong with them.

Armagh18

Quote from: square_ball on February 20, 2023, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 20, 2023, 09:04:18 AM
Armagh butchered enough chances to win two games. Poor decision making in the final third. Conor Lane though is one of the worst refs around so inconsistent for both teams. This holding the face as if you've been hit by Mike Tyson is endemic in soccer and now coming into GAA. Refs buying it wholesale in both codes, time to stamp it out.

The one where an arm comes across the chest and the player goes down holding his head. You see it multiple times in every single game from every team. Its the physios and doctors I feel sorry for having to come on and carry out their checks knowing rightly there is sweet FA wrong with them.
Make the player come off for 5/10 minutes for a full check. Soon cut out the bluffing

Milltown Row2

Quote from: square_ball on February 20, 2023, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 20, 2023, 09:04:18 AM
Armagh butchered enough chances to win two games. Poor decision making in the final third. Conor Lane though is one of the worst refs around so inconsistent for both teams. This holding the face as if you've been hit by Mike Tyson is endemic in soccer and now coming into GAA. Refs buying it wholesale in both codes, time to stamp it out.

The one where an arm comes across the chest and the player goes down holding his head. You see it multiple times in every single game from every team. Its the physios and doctors I feel sorry for having to come on and carry out their checks knowing rightly there is sweet FA wrong with them.

Here's the problem though, if the ref just waved in on and a player is actually badly hurt, because the ref, doesn't always see contact, then the backlash wouldn't be worth it... lads are throwing themselves to the ground left right and center, probably hurting themselves more, the one yesterday the Ref did stop play but Armagh had possession and restarted with the ball. The ref didn't buy that one, but had to stop play
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

mackers

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 20, 2023, 09:40:38 AM
Make the player come off for 5/10 minutes for a full check. Soon cut out the bluffing
This.
If a player has to go off the field for a HIA (as in rugby) for 2 minutes it would cure this crap immediately. Very frustrating to watch and in fairness to referees there is very little they can do as MR2 says.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.