The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

What are the AP, but especially, Fox News, going to do later on if things, as it looks like they will, progress to the point that Biden has Nevada?

If they call Nevada and don't retract Arizona, which they haven't yet, then that will be that, according to their decision team.

Was wondering this myself. Theres no way CNN will want to haemorrhage viewers to the network that has called the election, would it prompt them to call Arizona blue?

Can't see CNN jumping the gun. Why bother? If Fox calls it, that in itself will be news for CNN to cover anyway.

Its interesting though that the AP and Fox have not retracted the AZ call yet. AP says they're going to do what the facts force them to do. But I guess a retraction is probably an even bigger deal than a call in the first place, so they want to be sure.
https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-arizona-joe-biden-bb16f91b04456b2513f40436248eb62d

[tyssam5]

Down to a 120k gap in PA, but only 35k votes left in Pittsburgh's county, which are just subject to investigation.

Georgia gap down to 14k, but 98% now in.

Nailbiter.

2% of Georgia is almost 100,000. so Biden would need 60% of the vote. Some of the Atlanta suburbs have a bit to go and he has been getting that percentage.

Of the 61,367 votes that were announced to be outstanding a couple of hours back (I know a small amount of votes have come in since that), we have a detailed knowledge of which counties they come from and how much from each county

If the mail in ballots broke at the exact same rates that the current total votes in the relevant counties are at, Biden would get 34,294 out of those 61,367

That would not be enough

He has to hit 39,756 out of 61,367 - I make that 64.7%

But mail in ballots are breaking disproportionately for Biden compared to the total vote

So it's doable

Not certain, but doable

I have a weird feeling that one state is going to be very narrowly Biden and will flip to Trump on military votes that come in next week. That said I've not idea how many military votes to expect - but Georgia seems like a place that would have a good few.

[RedHand88]

Down to a 120k gap in PA, but only 35k votes left in Pittsburgh's county, which are just subject to investigation.

Georgia gap down to 14k, but 98% now in.

Nailbiter.

2% of Georgia is almost 100,000. so Biden would need 60% of the vote. Some of the Atlanta suburbs have a bit to go and he has been getting that percentage.

Of the 61,367 votes that were announced to be outstanding a couple of hours back (I know a small amount of votes have come in since that), we have a detailed knowledge of which counties they come from and how much from each county

If the mail in ballots broke at the exact same rates that the current total votes in the relevant counties are at, Biden would get 34,294 out of those 61,367

That would not be enough

He has to hit 39,756 out of 61,367 - I make that 64.7%

But mail in ballots are breaking disproportionately for Biden compared to the total vote

So it's doable

Not certain, but doable

I have a weird feeling that one state is going to be very narrowly Biden and will flip to Trump on military votes that come in next week. That said I've not idea how many military votes to expect - but Georgia seems like a place that would have a good few.

About 5000 apparently.

[sid waddell]

Also 2 thousand and something provisional ballots in Georgia which haven't been counted yet - these are separate to the remaining mail ballots

[johnnycool]

First time I've heard this;

John McCain's concession speech after losing out to Obama;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8yoNkcl1A

The man had more principle in his toe nail than the current gombeen in the whitehouse.

[Milltown Row2]

Also 2 thousand and something provisional ballots in Georgia which haven't been counted yet - these are separate to the remaining mail ballots

So does Trump want these counted now or stop the counting?

[RedHand88]

Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania

[J70]

First time I've heard this;

John McCain's concession speech after losing out to Obama;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8yoNkcl1A

The man had more principle in his toe nail than the current gombeen in the whitehouse.

I remember that.

Palin was all set to follow him out with a Trump-type speech of her own, but he told her to f**k away off.

[RedHand88]

First time I've heard this;

John McCain's concession speech after losing out to Obama;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8yoNkcl1A

The man had more principle in his toe nail than the current gombeen in the whitehouse.

I remember that.

Palin was all set to follow him out with a Trump-type speech of her own, but he told her to f**k away off.

I remember that. He wouldn't let her speak as he recognised that it was Obamas moment and didn't want her to overshadow it. He was a great man.
Was watching the sky documentary on him recently. And he used to say when people from Arizona accused him of being a blow in candidate he would apologise and say the place he has spent a longer time than anywhere else was Hanoi. It would shut them up.

[Eamonnca1]

Down to a 120k gap in PA, but only 35k votes left in Pittsburgh's county, which are just subject to investigation.

Georgia gap down to 14k, but 98% now in.

Nailbiter.

2% of Georgia is almost 100,000. so Biden would need 60% of the vote. Some of the Atlanta suburbs have a bit to go and he has been getting that percentage.

Of the 61,367 votes that were announced to be outstanding a couple of hours back (I know a small amount of votes have come in since that), we have a detailed knowledge of which counties they come from and how much from each county

If the mail in ballots broke at the exact same rates that the current total votes in the relevant counties are at, Biden would get 34,294 out of those 61,367

That would not be enough

He has to hit 39,756 out of 61,367 - I make that 64.7%

But mail in ballots are breaking disproportionately for Biden compared to the total vote

So it's doable

Not certain, but doable

I have a weird feeling that one state is going to be very narrowly Biden and will flip to Trump on military votes that come in next week. That said I've not idea how many military votes to expect - but Georgia seems like a place that would have a good few.

Couldn't see him getting a majority of the "suckers and losers" vote

[Newbridge Exile]

First time I've heard this;

John McCain's concession speech after losing out to Obama;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8yoNkcl1A

The man had more principle in his toe nail than the current gombeen in the whitehouse.

I remember that.

Palin was all set to follow him out with a Trump-type speech of her own, but he told her to f**k away off.

I remember that. He wouldn't let her speak as he recognised that it was Obamas moment and didn't want her to overshadow it. He was a great man.
Was watching the sky documentary on him recently. And he used to say when people from Arizona accused him of being a blow in candidate he would apologise and say the place he has spent a longer time than anywhere else was Hanoi. It would shut them up.

I never saw this before either , he was a man of great integrity,

[armaghniac]

First time I've heard this;

John McCain's concession speech after losing out to Obama;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8yoNkcl1A

The man had more principle in his toe nail than the current gombeen in the whitehouse.

I remember that.

Palin was all set to follow him out with a Trump-type speech of her own, but he told her to f**k away off.

I remember that. He wouldn't let her speak as he recognised that it was Obamas moment and didn't want her to overshadow it. He was a great man.
Was watching the sky documentary on him recently. And he used to say when people from Arizona accused him of being a blow in candidate he would apologise and say the place he has spent a longer time than anywhere else was Hanoi. It would shut them up.

I never saw this before either , he was a man of great integrity,

and of course both Obama and Bush spoke at his funeral and Trump was not invited.

[JoG2]

First time I've heard this;

John McCain's concession speech after losing out to Obama;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8yoNkcl1A

The man had more principle in his toe nail than the current gombeen in the whitehouse.

I remember that.

Palin was all set to follow him out with a Trump-type speech of her own, but he told her to f**k away off.

I remember that. He wouldn't let her speak as he recognised that it was Obamas moment and didn't want her to overshadow it. He was a great man.
Was watching the sky documentary on him recently. And he used to say when people from Arizona accused him of being a blow in candidate he would apologise and say the place he has spent a longer time than anywhere else was Hanoi. It would shut them up.

I never saw this before either , he was a man of great integrity,

and of course both Obama and Bush spoke at his funeral and Trump was not invited.

There's was footage of Trump in an interview on TV the other night saying there was no way McCain was a war hero as he had been captured. Soldiers who got captured were not war heroes in his eyes he repeated. Nasty doesn't come close to describing Trump

[Farrandeelin]

Less than 100k behind in PA now!

[armaghniac]

Less than 100k behind in PA now!

97,908 votes. to be precise.

edit now  Trump is currently up by 97,224, from 1,830 additional votes. So that 1830 provided a 684 surplus for Biden, implying 68.7% going to Biden.