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Feb 11:  Corofin (Galway) v Dr. Crokes (Kerry) in Limerick;

Kerry teams club or county are great for getting theses All Ireland series games fixed in Munster.

Let's get actual distances of travel, per google maps:

2 games in Limerick...Glenbeigh 134km v Louisburgh 186km and Corofin 108km v Killarney 116km

1 game in Ennis...Westport 136km v Kenmare 192km

So the Connacht clubs are closer to home in two of the three games. 

But the venues are best described as neutral for all teams, or are you arguing differently?

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Senior Football
Feb 11:  Corofin (Galway) v Dr. Crokes (Kerry) in Limerick;  St. Vincents (Dublin) v Slaughtneil (Derry) in Newry
March 17 Final in Croke Park

Intermediate Football
Jan 29: Westport (Mayo) v Kenmare (Kerry) in Ennis; St. Colmcilles (Meath) v Pomeroy (Tyrone) in Armagh
Feb 19: Final in Croke Park

Junior Football:
Jan 29: Louisburgh (Mayo) v Glenbeigh/Glencar (Kerry) in Limerick; Dunedin Connolly's (Edinburgh) v Rock St. Patricks (Tyrone) in Armagh
Feb 19: Final in Croke Park

Senior Hurling
Feb 4: St. Thomas (Galway) v Ballyea (Clare) in Thurles
Feb 25: Cuala (Dublin) v Slaughtneil (Derry) in Armagh
March 17: Final in Croke Park

Intermediate Hurling
Jan 14 Quarter Final: Robert Emmetts (London) v St. Brigids (Antrim) in London
Jan 29 Semi Finals: Ath Eascrach/Fothaine Ahascragh/Fohenagh (near Ballinasloe in Galway) v Lismore (Waterford) in Tullamore; Carrickshock (Kilkenny) v QF Winner, venue to be confirmed

Junior Hurling
Jan 29: Calry/St. Josephs (Sligo) v Mayfield (Cork) in Tullamore; Mooncoin (Kilkenny) v Lamh Dearg (Antrim) in Trim
Feb 18: Final in Croke Park

Are parish league games allowed?

Merry Christmas to all.  Hope 2017 will treat us all well.

Renewed at $134 as well. 

I use it exclusively on-demand, as work and other things prevent live viewing.  It made for some interesting viewing in the summer to watch league games from earlier in the year. 

The most enjoyable games from 2016 for me were the two KK/Waterford games and the AI Hurling Final.  And I wouldn't be a huge hurling man at all.  First half of the KK/Waterford replay from Thurles was unreal.

There was a sense of inevitability about most of the big football games, the exception being Tipp taking out Galway while playing nice football.

Run it off the weekend before the All-Ireland final in each code...obviously the All-Ireland finalists will not participate. 

Thurles for the hurling and Dingle for the football with 5 Sams in charge (although he will have to change his name to 37 Sams).

Final 4 Dec. Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) 2-16 Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 2-10

was this result not 2-16 to 0-10?

Corrected...thanks for spotting that.  My source was incorrect.

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4 Dec – updating junior football and hurling finals.  All done for 2016 edit to correct score in junior football final

Senior Football

QF:  30 Oct.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-14  Kilmurry/Ibrickane (Clare) 0-08 
QF: 30 Oct.  Carbery Rangers (Cork) 2-11  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-07

SF:  13 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-12 Loughmore-Castleiney (Tipperary) 0-9
SF: 13 Nov.  The Nire (Waterford) 2-15 Carbery Rangers (Cork) 1-13 AET

Final: 27 Nov Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15  The Nire (Waterford) 0-6

Intermediate Football

QF:  30 Oct. Kenmare (Kerry) 4-24  Fethard (Tipperary) 0-05 
QF: Adare (Limerick) w/o Waterford (scr.)

SF:  13 Nov. Kenmare (Kerry) 3-11 Kilfenora (Clare) 0-7
SF:  13 Nov. Adare (Limerick) 0-13 Kiskeam (Cork) 0-10

Final:  27 Nov Kenmare (Kerry) 1-20  Adare (Limerick) 1-8

Junior Football

QF:  6 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 2-11 Meelick (Clare) 0-02
QF:  13 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) w/o Waterford scr.

SF: 19 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 1-13 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 1-4
SF: 19 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) 1-13 Gerald Griffins (Limerick) 0-6

Final 4 Dec. Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) 2-16 Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 0-10


Senior Hurling

QF:  30 Oct Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-17 Ballygunner (Waterford) 0-16

SF:  6 Nov.  Glen Rovers (Cork) 0-15  Patrickswell (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 6 Nov.  Ballyea (Clare) 4-18  Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 2-22

Final: 20 Nov  Ballyea (Clare) 1-21 Glen Rovers (Cork) 2-10

Intermediate Hurling

QF:  30 Oct.  Lismore (Waterford) 2-20  Bandon (Cork) 1-12
QF:  22 Oct.  Monaleen (Limerick) 2-21  St. Josephs (Clare) 3-13

SF:  6 Nov. Kilmoyley (Kerry) 4-12  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-13
SF:  5 Nov. Lismore (Waterford) 1-15  Newport (Tipperary) 1-12

Final: 19 Nov  Lismore (Waterford) 2-14 Kilmoyley (Kerry) 0-13

Junior Hurling

QF:  29 Oct.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 0-05
QF:  30 Oct.  Mayfield (Cork) 4-34 St. Patricks (Limerick) 0-02

SF: 13 Nov.  Mayfield (Cork) 1-27 Bodyke (Clare) 1-7
SF: 13 Nov.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-14 Ballybacon/Grange (Tipperary) 0-6

Final: 4 Dec.  Mayfield (Cork) 2-18 v Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 3-10

So it is official...Alabama is the No. 1 seed in the College Football Playoff and will meet No. 4 Washington in a semifinal game at the Peach Bowl on Dec. 31.

The other semifinal is No. 2 Clemson against No. 3 Ohio State at the Fiesta Bowl, also Dec. 31.

Hopefully the GAA don't get wind of this process...imagine the uproar if Roscommon managed to win the Connacht football title, but Mayo get to play the All-Ireland semifinal instead. Ballaghadereen would be demolished. 

Ball Hopper, why do you cherry pick that phrase and ignore the one where they say the place a premium on Conference champions, and head to head record? The only reason that Penn State could not be ranked ahead of Ohio State is if they think Ohio State is far, far better than Penn State, which is odd, considering Penn State beat them, and beat them in a late season game.

I don't have a problem with the concept of picking the 4 best teams, but the criteria is there to help you determine what is 'best'. And in this case they have either ignored it, or else decided it wasn't relevant because the teams aren't in the same stratosphere. Which is odd given the final rankings of #3 and #5.

Also, they absolutely screwed TCU a few years ago because they didn't play a conference championship game, they dropped from 3 to 6 after winning their last Big 12 game by a cricket score.

The hosed the Big 12 the same year, or maybe another year actually, because they declared co-champions. Baylor and someone else. Maybe it was TCU actually. The rationale was that the conference championship was a key determinant.

They slated Baylors Non conference schedule, and yet this year they allow Washington in, whose NCS is probably as bad or worse.

Look, I have no problem with a subjective assessment, but I think it's very stupid when they contradict themselves year on year, or even week on week, and it must be very frustrating if you are involved in a team.  What they should just say is 'We think these teams are the best, and that's that'.

And as for Penn State and Ohio State, I guarantee that if you swapped their helmets, and it was a 7th ranked Ohio State that won the conference title this weekend, and beat the #2 ranked team a few weeks ago, they would absolutely be in.

I'm not disagreeing with you that much...I listen to a lot if the sports talk shows here and the point being made continuously is picking the best teams, not necessarily the conference champs.  I do think it is odd.  They backed themselves into a corner by having both Ohio State and Michigan too high.

I bet if the committee met only once in the season...that being today...the rankings would be very different.

Not so AZ.  The emphasis is on having the best teams in the last 4, not necessarily conference champions. That is a stated strategy, if that is the right word.

The committee have erred along the road to this point...especially by not dropping Michigan earlier (after the loss to Iowa). 

Where is the Big 10 now...Penn State won the title, but lost heavily to Michigan and also to Pitt.  Michigan lost to Ohio State. Ohio State lost to Penn State.  The loss by Penn State to Pitt should eliminate them from national title contenders. Wisconsin lost to both Ohio State and Michigan, plus Penn State, so they are out. 

I say the final four are Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Washington.  But I've been wrong on most things...

Ball hopper I'm sure 100% that the committee says 'where a non conference champion and a conference champion are being considered, the non conference champion MUST be unequivocally better than the conference champion. They have constantly said that, since day 1 3 years ago. I'm absolutely 100% sure that is the case.

So, if Ohio State are to get in, the committee must rate them as UNEQUIVOCALLY better than either Alabama, Clemson, Washington, Penn State or Oklahoma. I think they will view them as better than Oklahoma, but to say they are better than Penn State, when Penn State beat them , is a stretch.

I'm not arguing that Penn State are better than Ohio state by the way. I think neutral field OSU probably beats them, but key word is probably. If they view them as unequivocally better, then they better explain how and why, very very clearly.

From the first paragraph of the document quoted... "For purposes of any four team playoff, the process will inevitably need to select the four best teams from among several with legitimate claims to participate."  Note the term "the four best teams". This has been at the heart of all the discussion on the sports talk shows the last month.  This committee have built up an odd reputation for themselves for sure. I still don't know how Michigan held on to the number two slot when they lost to Iowa.   They also appear to be kind to Ohio State as you suggest, at the cost of Penn State.

If the committee charter was based solely on conference winners, why would they even meet before today?  I say Ohio State are in the four and Penn State are out - they wil not drop a team from two to five when they did not even play this weekend.

All the teams that would cause Ohio to drop won conferences this weekend. Conference titles count for a lot more than sitting on your arse this weekend because you lost a big game, at least to me.

Agree on that.  The committee have got it wrong by loving both Ohio State and Michigan. But Penn State lost to Pitt, should that result knock them out of consideration completely?  Seems it does. Pitt also beat Clemson by the way. 

Alabama look to be in a different class.

Not so AZ.  The emphasis is on having the best teams in the last 4, not necessarily conference champions. That is a stated strategy, if that is the right word.

The committee have erred along the road to this point...especially by not dropping Michigan earlier (after the loss to Iowa). 

Where is the Big 10 now...Penn State won the title, but lost heavily to Michigan and also to Pitt.  Michigan lost to Ohio State. Ohio State lost to Penn State.  The loss by Penn State to Pitt should eliminate them from national title contenders. Wisconsin lost to both Ohio State and Michigan, plus Penn State, so they are out. 

I say the final four are Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Washington.  But I've been wrong on most things...

Ball hopper I'm sure 100% that the committee says 'where a non conference champion and a conference champion are being considered, the non conference champion MUST be unequivocally better than the conference champion. They have constantly said that, since day 1 3 years ago. I'm absolutely 100% sure that is the case.

So, if Ohio State are to get in, the committee must rate them as UNEQUIVOCALLY better than either Alabama, Clemson, Washington, Penn State or Oklahoma. I think they will view them as better than Oklahoma, but to say they are better than Penn State, when Penn State beat them , is a stretch.

I'm not arguing that Penn State are better than Ohio state by the way. I think neutral field OSU probably beats them, but key word is probably. If they view them as unequivocally better, then they better explain how and why, very very clearly.

From the first paragraph of the document quoted... "For purposes of any four team playoff, the process will inevitably need to select the four best teams from among several with legitimate claims to participate."  Note the term "the four best teams". This has been at the heart of all the discussion on the sports talk shows the last month.  This committee have built up an odd reputation for themselves for sure. I still don't know how Michigan held on to the number two slot when they lost to Iowa.   They also appear to be kind to Ohio State as you suggest, at the cost of Penn State.

If the committee charter was based solely on conference winners, why would they even meet before today?  I say Ohio State are in the four and Penn State are out - they wil not drop a team from two to five when they did not even play this weekend.

Not so AZ.  The emphasis is on having the best teams in the last 4, not necessarily conference champions. That is a stated strategy, if that is the right word.

The committee have erred along the road to this point...especially by not dropping Michigan earlier (after the loss to Iowa). 

Where is the Big 10 now...Penn State won the title, but lost heavily to Michigan and also to Pitt.  Michigan lost to Ohio State. Ohio State lost to Penn State.  The loss by Penn State to Pitt should eliminate them from national title contenders. Wisconsin lost to both Ohio State and Michigan, plus Penn State, so they are out. 

I say the final four are Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Washington.  But I've been wrong on most things...

Final scores...

Penn State 38 Wisconsin 31

Clemson 42 VA Tech 35