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[I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned]

I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please 

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.   

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Feck that, didnt offer me tea on Sunday past!!!!

I might be built like an elephant but I've the memory of one too!!

gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.

Now that is a good idea

MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Did he book him for striking the first time? or did he see it the way you seen it? I wasn't there so can't actually comment on that

Fair point, you can strike as many times as you want if the referee doesn't see it

You can't un-see a punch in the bake, if lads are wrestling on the ground its get up and yellow card them and move on, if they are standing toe to toe boxing style then off they go, what makes a player run in and 'try and separate' two players? let them at it, they'll get dealt with, the buck eejits running in cause more hassle and it escalates later also

Here Here!!!!! Let them at it!!!

[you are getting into more scrapes and mouthing]

As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing

Its not uncommon for older players to lose their discipline, Mick has high standards that he sets himself and when he feels its going against him he'll let you know, I don't mind constructive 'chat' but when it gets personal or over the top you are walking a a fine line. Its very difficult to take a player like him off to be fair, you place a lot of responsibilities on his shoulders to and he'll have taken them on board also.

The second tackle was borderline yellow, but maybe just maybe because of the earlier yellow it gave the ref an opportunity to flash a second yellow, they are only human, keep the ref on board and you'll get the benefit of the 50/50 calls, start abusing them and the 50/50 calls could go more against you.

I don't know if the ref was that poor to be fair, he gave my clubman a yellow for the off the ball stuff, after Hurson and his umpires were chatting, I think it was the right call as he defo started it. Some softer fouls maybe and moving the ball in is for mouthing. He'd one mistake were he allowed a 'MARK' to be played on when it was called, the player hand passed the ball.. other than that I can't really see too many stand out wrongs, that's with my Antrim supporter head on.

When I got nearer the end of playing you are getting into more scrapes and mouthing, that's your body telling you to stop playing lol

You haven't changed much!!

I hope McGinley gets the boot after that on Saturday wasn't worth the entrance fee

right, which one of you put 50p in the idiot?

The buzz word is "throw ball"

Are managers now employing this 'chant' in training sessions?

Every 2 or 3 minutes I heard it last night ,it has taken over from "STEPS REF!!"

I was like, f**k!!!! I'm like 80 meters closer to the play to ones shouting from the other end of pitch!! The Sunday Game has a lot to answer for lol

Funny I said the same thing, I was far closer to the play but someone on the far side of the pitch can see a throw ball through a crowd of players.
Maybe they all have super power vision

The buzz word is "throw ball"

Are managers now employing this 'chant' in training sessions?

Every 2 or 3 minutes I heard it last night ,it has taken over from "STEPS REF!!"

Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Possibly to do with who voted against Antrim, and Corrigan, originally??

That'll do nicely 
Two delegates from Down who wouldn't know one end of a hurl from the other, is that the answer you're after?

Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Possibly to do with who voted against Antrim, and Corrigan, originally??

Some bad mismatches in those U-15 Div 1 games

Really there are three levels of teams there but it would mean 5 teams in div 1, 10 in div 2 and 5 and in div 3 if you were going to avoid these scores, as the same happens in div 2.

What clubs are involved in Ard Na Rí at u-15?

I think its St Galls & St Brigids

Has the early league form, albeit minus county stars, altered posters pre season predictions of where the senior/intermediate/junior championships are heading this year?

I'm going with Cargin, Ballymena, Rasharkin

I've only seen lots of teams in Div 2 this year, and it is so unpredictable. It's so hard to predict future championship results until teams have played a few games with their senior and U20 players back

Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin

no need for that lad, that's overstepping the mark.

for the record, he hates everyone equally, like all referees should

To be fair I think that each referee should hold a session with all their teams from minors up each season akin to that the referee has to go through himself in relation to the rules etc, take time to explain the rules, what is new, what a player misunderstands. What amazes me most what you notice from watching games is that even after a good few years some club players do not understand the kick out mark rule! If all refs did this no player or manager has an excuse to question technically correct decisions. The ref should not be out of pocket either as if this is a sole football club he could have at least 4 teams to do this with therefore their club should be sorting them out for it

I've went to teams during championship and went through what way I'm going to referee the game and if they have any questions in relation to the rules or how I'll apply them. I've no problem doing that again, I hope at the time it gave the players a view point that they hadn't asked before. Ive done this as a manager as Tyrdub will testify one night in Casement!

Did I happen to send you off that night?

Never in hurling have I been sent off ... Football, well couple of times, one for abuse to a ref lol, totally deserved 

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