Quote from: trileacman on Today at 12:20:32 PMCan we agree that a border poll held in the next 5 years would be very likely to be defeated?
I mean if I were a Unionist I would want a border poll now to bury the issue for a few decades, much like what has happened in Scotland. I really think if SF, as the largest party in the Assembly and with a Labour SOS, really forced the issue they would get a border poll.
It looks win/win for the Labour Party too. Lose the border poll and you cut loose one of your biggest budget liabilities without much political blowback. Win the border poll and they shore up their little Englander vote whilst simultaneously appeasing nationalists (by arranging a poll) and Unionists (by winning it).
A border poll will only succeed if a lot of work has been done to establish what exactly you are voting with details and not just generalities. However, you cannot bury it for generations, the issue will not go away.
And we in Ireland should not allow the British clear off without a proper settlement of the finances in terms of civil service pensions and the like.
Quote from: Truthsayer on Today at 12:42:29 PMGo back and read through his comments. A total partitionist and in response to Martin's comments selects IRA killings in the '26 counties' (ignoring Dublin bombings and many many other Loyalist/British State atrocities) to say Martin does have a point.
Martin was out of order with these comments, but that is a small thing in the overall situation.