Tailteann Cup 2022

[seafoid]

League is the fairest. It's over 7 games. Maybe the Tailteann will change how D2 teams think about relegation.

It wasn't though. Some teams are in it due to a 3 group game league in 2021. And how really is it fairest? Winter/early Spring football, a few inopportune injuries and you're out of the championship in summer? Like we can relegate someone on winter football score difference. It's too arbitrary, league directly linked to Championship isn't done anywhere else in GAA. There has to be better ways than this.

I'll give you the fact that League campaigns were shortened in 2021 due to Covid which may have skewed things. But otherwise I really don't see the complaints.

Cavan will have two chances to get back up to Sam Maguire status before next years championship. Either win the Tailteann Cup or finish in the top 2 in division three. If they are incapable of doing that then they can have no complaints over pitches being too soft or the likes. The rules are the same for everybody. In Armagh club football a teams championship grading is linked to league performance and it works very well.

Plus the League usually sorts the wheat from the chaff. If a team isn't promoted it's usually easily explained. A championship based set of metrics would be impossible to agree on.

[Dreadnought]

League is the fairest. It's over 7 games. Maybe the Tailteann will change how D2 teams think about relegation.

It wasn't though. Some teams are in it due to a 3 group game league in 2021. And how really is it fairest? Winter/early Spring football, a few inopportune injuries and you're out of the championship in summer? Like we can relegate someone on winter football score difference. It's too arbitrary, league directly linked to Championship isn't done anywhere else in GAA. There has to be better ways than this.

I'll give you the fact that League campaigns were shortened in 2021 due to Covid which may have skewed things. But otherwise I really don't see the complaints.

Cavan will have two chances to get back up to Sam Maguire status before next years championship. Either win the Tailteann Cup or finish in the top 2 in division three. If they are incapable of doing that then they can have no complaints over pitches being too soft or the likes. The rules are the same for everybody. In Armagh club football a teams championship grading is linked to league performance and it works very well.

We'll likely do both. But that's no good for this year, basing the split on Covid disrupted leagues. I just feel its not right overall. Where in any county or club championship has entry to Championship been determined yearly on winter league football?

[Itchy]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

[restorepride]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

League positions will dictate from now on. Cavan will not allow a slip to Divison 4 again in a hurry.

[Captain Obvious]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

League positions will dictate from now on. Cavan will not allow a slip to Divison 4 again in a hurry.

Which is no bad thing, the league is the best format competition the GAA have and all should take it serious.

[Itchy]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

League positions will dictate from now on. Cavan will not allow a slip to Divison 4 again in a hurry.

Cavan were in div4 because they fucked up. You'll not hear me blame league structure for that. They were relegated because they lost a league play off to Wicklow, end of story and no excuses for that.

[Dreadnought]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

League positions will dictate from now on. Cavan will not allow a slip to Divison 4 again in a hurry.

I just think it'll skew things a bit. Cavan have a good squad, but limited outside the main 15-18. If we've anyone out of a bit of form, a few injuries, then we're very quickly running on fumes. Even resting players after a long year, and trying to blood new players leaves some exposed. League should not solely be about determining your Championship. It allows teams to try things, new players, tactics. But now we're telling them they need to be dialled in from the 4th weekend in January, and keep that going until summer. Some small counties can't.

Cavan showed to be a Championship team, even with dropping down the divisions (albeit it in weird circumstances). Do we want a situation where we want teams to be be like Armagh and Monaghan? Look great all Spring, but poor come Championship time? They time their runs all wrong to stay in Division 1. Is this really what we want for teams for Championship? Linking the League is the wrong thing imo.

[Armagh18]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

League positions will dictate from now on. Cavan will not allow a slip to Divison 4 again in a hurry.

I just think it'll skew things a bit. Cavan have a good squad, but limited outside the main 15-18. If we've anyone out of a bit of form, a few injuries, then we're very quickly running on fumes. Even resting players after a long year, and trying to blood new players leaves some exposed. League should not solely be about determining your Championship. It allows teams to try things, new players, tactics. But now we're telling them they need to be dialled in from the 4th weekend in January, and keep that going until summer. Some small counties can't.

Cavan showed to be a Championship team, even with dropping down the divisions (albeit it in weird circumstances). Do we want a situation where we want teams to be be like Armagh and Monaghan? Look great all Spring, but poor come Championship time? They time their runs all wrong to stay in Division 1. Is this really what we want for teams for Championship? Linking the League is the wrong thing imo.

We've only looked good for one Spring lately! And still a good chance to redeeem ourselves on Sunday

[Dreadnought]

Based on all this wisdom, Dublin are outside the top 8 in ireland since they got relegated. It may be difficult to grade teams in championship but that is where every team wants to be atbtheir best. How anyone could think league position tells you where you are, well only counties that flop in championship would think that.

League positions will dictate from now on. Cavan will not allow a slip to Divison 4 again in a hurry.

I just think it'll skew things a bit. Cavan have a good squad, but limited outside the main 15-18. If we've anyone out of a bit of form, a few injuries, then we're very quickly running on fumes. Even resting players after a long year, and trying to blood new players leaves some exposed. League should not solely be about determining your Championship. It allows teams to try things, new players, tactics. But now we're telling them they need to be dialled in from the 4th weekend in January, and keep that going until summer. Some small counties can't.

Cavan showed to be a Championship team, even with dropping down the divisions (albeit it in weird circumstances). Do we want a situation where we want teams to be be like Armagh and Monaghan? Look great all Spring, but poor come Championship time? They time their runs all wrong to stay in Division 1. Is this really what we want for teams for Championship? Linking the League is the wrong thing imo.

We've only looked good for one Spring lately! And still a good chance to redeeem ourselves on Sunday

Ah I get you, although you've done fine in Spring last few years to get up to Division 1 and stay there for 2 years. My point is, that it hasn't been replicated into summer. Yet.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0530/1302106-spillane-tailteann-cup-is-going-to-be-a-huge-success/
Amid all the hand-wringing about one-sided provincial finals - on Saturday at least - Pat Spillane pointed to what he regarded as one of the bright spots of the weekend: the Tailteann Cup.

The months preceding the inaugural competition witnessed doom-laden prophecies about player apathy and large-scale opt-outs, as well as a great deal of grumbling about an alleged paucity of pre-publicity.

But, according to Spillane, the early signs are that the Tailteann Cup is beginning to gather some momentum.

After the preliminary rounds, the tournament shot into a higher gear at the weekend, with Carlow - utterly abject throughout 2022 - shocking Tipp in Netwatch Cullen Park, and Andy Moran's Leitrim overcoming Antrim in Carrick.

"The Tailteann Cup is starting to be a huge success. It's going to be a huge success," Spillane told the RTÉ GAA podcast.

"When I saw the Carlow players celebrating after that victory, I said 'that's it! That's brilliant'.

"Take Leitrim and Sligo, one of them is going to get into a Tailteann Cup semi-final. For one of them, it will be their fifth championship game of the year.

"Go back through the records, when did Leitrim or Sligo ever play five championship games in the one year? Probably never, maybe once? (Sligo played six en route to All-Ireland quarter-final in 2002)

"Not alone that but they'll be playing that fifth game of the championship in Croke Park and it will be live on RTÉ television.

"I've looked at the teams still in it. No one has dropped out. They're committing, they're training hard, they've full-strength teams.


Carlow, who were humiliated in the league - one victory against Waterford - who were humiliated in the Leinster championship. The easy option for Niall Carew and his players was to say, 'ah, feck this anyway...'

"They said, look, we'll give it a crack, this is our level. They trained hard, they had challenge games and they mightn't win another game but yesterday was their day in the sun. And I thought, 'this Tailteann Cup, it's good'."

Monday's draw has thrown up a couple of local derbies - perhaps unsurprisingly given the contentious north-south design of the competition - with Fermanagh colliding with their old nemesis Cavan in Brewster Park.

While Sligo - who currently boast Pat Spillane Jr in their ranks - travel to Carrick to face Leitrim. The carrot of a semi-final trip to Croker is on offer.


Two quarter-finals in the Tailteann Cup next weekend will probably have close to full-house at Páirc Sean in Carrick-on-Shannon, the local derby Sligo and Leitrim and at Brewster Park, Fermanagh and Cavan.

"They'll be close to full-house for a quarter-final of a competition which, a couple of months ago, a lot of teams didn't want.

"It's a good positive story to take out of the weekend, rather than bashing the provincial championships. It's exactly what we didn't get in Killarney, it's a level playing field, teams of equal ability playing against each other."

[Itchy]

Me and the 2 kids last week into Breffni = 15 euro
This week, same people into Brewster = 30 euro

Double the cost only 1 week later. Just like the north/south, its all about the money.

[Blowitupref]

Offaly 2-10 New York 0-5 at half time. 3-17 to 0-11 it finished.

[full moon]

Me and the 2 kids last week into Breffni = 15 euro
This week, same people into Brewster = 30 euro

Double the cost only 1 week later. Just like the north/south, its all about the money.

Disgraceful stuff really by GAA

[Blowitupref]

Half time Carlow 2-5 Westmeath 1-10

Full time Carlow 2-13 Westmeath 1-21


Cavan 2-5 Fermanagh 0-7 at half time.
FT Fermanagh 0-13 Cavan 2-16


FT in Carrick on Shannon, extra time required after Leitrim scored the last 4 points. 2-13 to 1-16

FT AET Leitrim 2-16 Sligo 1-19. Penalties to find a winner.  Sligo win on penalties

[seafoid]

Sligo 1 ahead since the  first round