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What utter nonsense. As if the judiciary give a crap about the tax payer when they're billing their time! And they're well fit to throw the book at people if they've gotten out of the wrong side of the bed for trivial crap.

This sc**bag raped a baby, filmed it, put it up on a sharing platform and would not co-operate with authorities in naming his buddies. The book should be thrown at him. If some p***k in government then wants to take issue with that and over rule the judge, I doubt they'd be too popular or get very far.
There are not too many crimes as stomach churning or vile as this one. Letting him walk in 4 years is a complete insult and more retraumatizing to the victims than anything that could have been said in court. And if we've lowered ourselves to the point of affording credit to the most depraved of paedos so as not to upset them, then the lunatics are truly running the asylum. 

I am in no way defending the sentence. It is reprehensible. The problem is. The judge does what you suggest and goes against the guidance from government and it's an easy and costly appeal with the potential for damages, further suffering for victims and further ridicule. Had this sentence been imposed in the north it would have been at the lower end of the guidance but still within the guidance. So in such a scenario was the Judge wrong to follow the guidance or is the guidance wrong?  Clearly the guidance is wrong and therefore the criticism of the judiciary is largely misplaced.

Also individual politicians or even ministers or governments can't really over rule judges in particular cases. Parliament can of course amend the law but by and large in criminal matters this can't have retrospective effect. But the law has developed over many years to water down or eradicate the executives role in judicial matters. Save for providing guidance on sentences which should be followed.

Just one of the acts carries a life sentence. If a proper sentence was frivolously appealed then that would be a problem that needs further addressing later. The fix is most certainly not to allow judges threat scum like this with kiddy gloves and let them walk in 40 odd months time. Jesus Christ this filth is an absolute menace.

I'd be willing to bet my life that if there was the remotest possibility this POS was going to be next door neighbour to that judge, the sentence would be very different.

What utter nonsense. As if the judiciary give a crap about the tax payer when they're billing their time! And they're well fit to throw the book at people if they've gotten out of the wrong side of the bed for trivial crap.

This sc**bag raped a baby, filmed it, put it up on a sharing platform and would not co-operate with authorities in naming his buddies. The book should be thrown at him. If some p***k in government then wants to take issue with that and over rule the judge, I doubt they'd be too popular or get very far.
There are not too many crimes as stomach churning or vile as this one. Letting him walk in 4 years is a complete insult and more retraumatizing to the victims than anything that could have been said in court. And if we've lowered ourselves to the point of affording credit to the most depraved of paedos so as not to upset them, then the lunatics are truly running the asylum. 

[a maximum life sentence]

"Marshall was facing a maximum life sentence for the defilement charge, a maximum sentence of five years for the possession charge, and up to 14 years on each of the other three charges including, producing child pornography, distributing child pornography and using communication technology to facilitate the sexual exploitation of a child. "

"Marshall uploaded and shared 15 videos and two images on kik of sex acts involving children, including the infant boy, as well as images and videos of a number of underage girls that were shared with him by a third party whom Marshall did not identify."

The law needs to be tougher on crime in general but I see nothing here to give that judge a pass. If he saw fit to give that utter scum "credit" and thinks it's ok for him to prey on others in 4 years time, which he most certainly will do, then he is not fit to be a judge.

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-who-filmed-sexual-abuse-of-baby-to-be-sentenced-6352660-Apr2024/

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Despicable crime.  As for the 4 yr jail time sentence, WTF!  The courts really do not help the situation ... 133 previous convictions, then this ... 4 yrs!  The key should be thrown away on scumbags like this.

Would make you sick to the pit of your stomach but to add insult to injury they hand out a sentence like that. Blood boiling! Surely they'll have to appeal the leniency of the sentence. No way someone like that can be let stalk the streets in less than 4 years.

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-who-filmed-sexual-abuse-of-baby-to-be-sentenced-6352660-Apr2024/

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Unfortunately the yanks might lap up McGregor's character. Only saw the trailers but he looked more like a paddywhack baddie Mike Myers might play in Austin Powers.

This is a Division 2 league thread. Dublin are not in this division. I expected Kildare to be in the shake up for promotion start of year.

We're after a break and still 10 points to fight for so they can still turn it around but I cannot get my head around the defeatist attitude of some on here. Kildare have competed in Div1 recently, were in the super 8's when they were a thing. Narrowly lost to Dublin in Leinster last year, narrowly lost to Monaghan to make AIQF. Have been in 3 of the last 6 U20 AI finals, winning 2. Have a large passionate following so money is flowing. Are a stones throw from Dublin so educational and work options are optimal for players and travel distances for collective training shouldn't prove too problematic. There are so many counties in Ireland would give their right arms to have their "problems"!

Get a grip FFS. Go out and play the game and forget about the Dubs unless ye meet them come championship. But if some of your players have the same attitude as some of the posters on here, maybe ye'd be better off in Division 3.

Dublin are not in Div 2 yet you go on to mention them several times in your post.

Kildare and Meath are in Div 2 and are going poorly. There is no rule against putting forward opinions on why they that may be.

The attitude or opinion of some anonymous posters on a message board has no effect on the Kildare players.

Last time I checked Kildare players were from Kildare. If some of the attitudes on here are a prevailing attitude within the county then it would explain your performances.

This is a Division 2 league thread. Dublin are not in this division. I expected Kildare to be in the shake up for promotion start of year.

We're after a break and still 10 points to fight for so they can still turn it around but I cannot get my head around the defeatist attitude of some on here. Kildare have competed in Div1 recently, were in the super 8's when they were a thing. Narrowly lost to Dublin in Leinster last year, narrowly lost to Monaghan to make AIQF. Have been in 3 of the last 6 U20 AI finals, winning 2. Have a large passionate following so money is flowing. Are a stones throw from Dublin so educational and work options are optimal for players and travel distances for collective training shouldn't prove too problematic. There are so many counties in Ireland would give their right arms to have their "problems"!

Get a grip FFS. Go out and play the game and forget about the Dubs unless ye meet them come championship. But if some of your players have the same attitude as some of the posters on here, maybe ye'd be better off in Division 3.

Pep is a special manager, no question. Klopp too. Both well run clubs, you cannot but be impressed by how both clubs have gone about their business last while, on and off field. Klopp had something very special in Merseyside, it's just unfortunate for them they met the perfect storm in City. Great manager and well run club with an unlimited blank cheque book. That's the only difference between the two.

When Pep goes things will even out. It will be nothing to do with other clubs getting their act together or putting on big boy pants. It will be City regressing. The managerial position is that important. FFP or money will not keep them where they are. Look at Utd, have spent more than anyone but don't have a manager of their calibre.

But for now, cannot see past City and it is getting boring. But it will be interesting to see who their next manager is, who Liverpool get in and indeed who's at the helm in Old Trafford next couple of years. There is a change coming soon.

As you say Liverpool, Man City are well run clubs and both Klopp and Pep can get the best out of their teams in that environment. At United they have gone through numerous managers the last decade and another change of manager won't make a big difference until they become a well run club. Jury is out on what Radcliffe and Co can do now they have control of the sport side of the club.

I can see the truth in what you're saying but end of the day bean counters run every club and if the football man in charge is not of strong enough personality or competence, and doesn't impress and domineer to them what exactly he needs from them, or indeed he doesn't truly know himself what he needs, then success is unlikely. It's a balancing act where either or can come first.

[Mid 80 points will likely be enough to finish 1st this season]

Perhaps we're just surveying the considerable stack of evidence before us when reaching the conclusion that City will win it again MR2.

And it's not like the team are giving up. But most supporters of any team, once they're beyond the age of 12, are sensible enough to call things as they are.

When Liverpool won it by a country mile they had to reach levels of performance which are simply not sustainable or repeatable.

82 points would have been enough to win that league title. Mid 80 points will likely be enough to finish 1st this season. At home to City a huge fixture for Liverpoool in the run in and even a draw would be a decent result.

I thought similar last year but this City team have a tendency to hit beast mode from Feb to April, especially when the pressure is really put on them. And their squad affords them more options and unlikely match winners and probably can absorb injuries better.

Pep is a special manager, no question. Klopp too. Both well run clubs, you cannot but be impressed by how both clubs have gone about their business last while, on and off field. Klopp had something very special in Merseyside, it's just unfortunate for them they met the perfect storm in City. Great manager and well run club with an unlimited blank cheque book. That's the only difference between the two.

When Pep goes things will even out. It will be nothing to do with other clubs getting their act together or putting on big boy pants. It will be City regressing. The managerial position is that important. FFP or money will not keep them where they are. Look at Utd, have spent more than anyone but don't have a manager of their calibre.

But for now, cannot see past City and it is getting boring. But it will be interesting to see who their next manager is, who Liverpool get in and indeed who's at the helm in Old Trafford next couple of years. There is a change coming soon.

Still 17 games to play so an awful lot can happen but they're exactly where they want to be. Injury crises can often swing momentum in a title chase but as things stand it's hard to see past them doing 4 in a row. If it weren't for a certain German, it'd be 7 in a row.

[Buddy Holly]

3rd February 1959:

Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens  and the Big Bopper  (and their pilot) were killed in a plane crash in Iowa.

The  day the music died.

Apparently last thing he said getting on the plane was we can't travel in that shit heap.

Excellent game and performance. Early days to be getting too excited, but already speed and intensity looks way above Div3 levels and the quality of play too (from both teams), so hopefully this is where we stay long term.

Was a bit worried we'd go very defensive with a fear of losing but the opposite was the case. Set up very positive, broke well and kept men in their half at all times. Took some great scores, tackled and defended well and managed the game in an assured fashion especially second half when it looked like they were getting into it and coming back at us.

Watched a bit of Cork and Donegal. A lot of twists and turns yet but thought Donegal looked fairly mean and Div1 bound so how we go against them will be a good gauge. Hopefully the good performance in Carlow and Jimmy McGuinness factor generates a bit of interest and we get a good vocal home turnout next Sunday evening but pricing will be a factor. No two ways about it, it's steep.

How are teams relegated to Intermediate and Junior championships in Cavan? I understand winning is the pathway to the level above, but how do you go about going down?

1 up 1 down. Essentially the bottom 4 in the group stages play off in relegation semi finals, and then losers play relegation final when the Championship quarters, semi etc are ongoing. So overall loser relegated and replaced by below Championship winner. You have to win to move up, lose to move down

Only exception to this is when rejigging numbers, and the odd year you relegate 2 and so on. Covid also messed it here when none were relegated in 2020, but had a promotion, so 2 were relegated in 2021 and so on to rejig numbers across the 3 Championships

Your league is a farce so and handy for outside managers to make a few bob. Mess about in the league and win an odd game in champ and your grand.

Lose a few games in Monaghan and Tyrone in the league and your gone,you get found out pretty quick.

Yes, mostly. Not for the everyday club player, but mostly. Split season the issue here overall. Glad you've finally caught up

Managers still lose their jobs. Might not be as valued, but you can't lose all your games either. My own team cut their manager mid League last season.

So the league is juat a waste of time so. What's tbe point of lads playing if no interest in it.

Being a club manager in Cavan must be handy money...and no pressure.

There is interest in it, just a much lesser competition and a great chance for lads on the fringes to exposure to a higher level in a club with second team, or for bringing young lads through.

I'd argue taking the league so seriously is a gimmick managers use to rip clubs off and charge more for their services with all the additional training and fitness stats. You cannot expect club players to be at peak from March to October. So I'd take it with a pinch of salt how tough the leagues are or at least how practical it is from a player welfare POV.

Whatever little joy is left in the club game is slowly being sucked away completely by these "professional" managerial setups and they always know how to charge regardless of results. Northern managers are notorious for it and they're picking up plenty of work in Cavan. Indeed in Dreadnought's own club it was a northern duo who unceremoniously got the gate. Seriously ignorant pair completely stuck up their own holes and extremely detrimental to player morale and development. 

Very backward way of looking at it! Why would you train less than before champ?

You pay for what you get

Of course you have to train but you need to develop players too and you won't do that by sickening a large portion of the group who you have no intention of giving any meaningful time to. Or in some cases being on players back over the Xmas long long before anything will be kicked. That's OTT for ordinary club players.

I know what they pay for. These lads are paid by the training session. Any it's always the fix for every problem, more sessions, more sessions, more sessions.