Hope its on the Saturday. Any injuries going in to this match or is everyone good to go so far?
Id rather have got someone else, Derry are favourites here, Clare be up for this
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Hope its on the Saturday. Any injuries going in to this match or is everyone good to go so far?
On Saturday evening, Magherafelt parish announced that they were moving Cemetary Sunday (26th June) to the Saturday evening (25th June) due to Derry's success in the Ulster Championship. Maybe they knew something about the quarter final fixtures before the draw ;)
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 13, 2022, 09:21:19 AM
Id rather have got someone else, Derry are favourites here, Clare be up for this
Yeah tricky draw for Derry. Definitely favourites but Clare a sticky side as Armagh know from experience. Will be really close game.
Derry wont have anything to worry about here.
There is a slim to no chance that Clare will be able to break down the blanket defence.
Book yer hotel for the semi final folks
Nothing like been cocky is there. But don't think u a Derry fan.
Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Derry hammered Clare in the league and i'd expect the same result again.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
99.9 % of Derry folk would have wanted Clare or Cork, the odd one wanting Mayo. So, delighted to get one of them. It's a q/f so any / all teams will be 'up for it'. But this is some chance to make a semi of the All Ireland. Dream stuff atm. And there's zero chance Gallagher and this group of players will be complacent, far far too many hard sessions have been put in for that to happen imo.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
On paper it should be, I agree.
But a lot will depend on the Derry mentality.
Have they managed to get their feet back on the ground after the first Ulster in 24 years?
Will they be overconfident going in against Clare? Derry have had a long break, so might be difficult to keep tuned in at the right level over that time.
Clare are no soft touch, but if Derry bring the same level of focus, intensity and desire to win as they did to games so far, I think we'll win this game.
Clare will be happy coming in ss slight underdogs and will be flying high after the nature of their win against Roscommon.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
On paper it should be, I agree.
But a lot will depend on the Derry mentality.
Have they managed to get their feet back on the ground after the first Ulster in 24 years?
Will they be overconfident going in against Clare? Derry have had a long break, so might be difficult to keep tuned in at the right level over that time.
Clare are no soft touch, but if Derry bring the same level of focus, intensity and desire to win as they did to games so far, I think we'll win this game.
Clare will be happy coming in ss slight underdogs and will be flying high after the nature of their win against Roscommon.
Slight underdogs ;D
Derry are 1/8 - I would say the handicap will be 6 or 7 points.
If I was from Derry I would be more concerned that ye arent getting a sterner test ahead of an semi final
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
Roscommon thought it was their easiest game to date and look what happened to them. Derry are no better than Roscommon. If they bring their Ulster form and aren't complacent they should be ok but I wouldn't write off Clare.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
On paper it should be, I agree.
But a lot will depend on the Derry mentality.
Have they managed to get their feet back on the ground after the first Ulster in 24 years?
Will they be overconfident going in against Clare? Derry have had a long break, so might be difficult to keep tuned in at the right level over that time.
Clare are no soft touch, but if Derry bring the same level of focus, intensity and desire to win as they did to games so far, I think we'll win this game.
Clare will be happy coming in ss slight underdogs and will be flying high after the nature of their win against Roscommon.
Slight underdogs? They are huge underdogs. Its probably not great preparation for an AI semi final but I wouldn't begrudge Derry the easy draw as they have had a tough run to come through Ulster.
Going into any game at this level with complacency can be lethal; but I'd hope, and frankly expect, that the current Derry squad will have used the past few weeks to come down from the Ulster Final, focus on what they need to do and started to prepare specifically for the next game, and for Croke Park.
We now know it will be Clare, and I think that they deserve the respect due to a team that has reached this level of the competition. I was at the game in Ennis, and while we won by nine, they were still dangerous: Keelan Sexton scored 5 points, Darren O'Neill had a strong game in midfield, Clare were also missing Ciarán Russell, who had a good game against Roscommon, and Podge Collins, who can be very influential for them, only came on as a sub midway through the second half. I'd say they have kicked on considerably since February, but crucially, so have we.
Really looking forward to this game. Doire Abú!
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Id rather have got someone else, Derry are favourites here, Clare be up for this
Yeah tricky draw for Derry. Definitely favourites but Clare a sticky side as Armagh know from experience. Will be really close game.
All this codology - all Derry fans wanted Clare.
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Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 13, 2022, 09:21:19 AM
Id rather have got someone else, Derry are favourites here, Clare be up for this
Yeah tricky draw for Derry. Definitely favourites but Clare a sticky side as Armagh know from experience. Will be really close game.
All this codology - all Derry fans wanted Clare.
We wanted Clare or Cork which is the same as any other team in the QF wanted!!!
Doesn't mean the Clare game will be a breeze.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
Roscommon thought it was their easiest game to date and look what happened to them. Derry are no better than Roscommon. If they bring their Ulster form and aren't complacent they should be ok but I wouldn't write off Clare.
Roscommon are wide open defensively it was ideal game for Clare. They'll struggle against Derry defence and it should be a routine victory for Derry before a bigger test in the semi final.
Expect news on the time/date and venue today but any idea when tickets would go on sale? Clubs sale first again?
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Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 13, 2022, 09:21:19 AM
Id rather have got someone else, Derry are favourites here, Clare be up for this
Yeah tricky draw for Derry. Definitely favourites but Clare a sticky side as Armagh know from experience. Will be really close game.
All this codology - all Derry fans wanted Clare.
We wanted Clare or Cork which is the same as any other team in the QF wanted!!!
Doesn't mean the Clare game will be a breeze.
Correct but all this I wish we got someone else, we don't do favourites well...blah, blah, blah.
Everybody want Clare, even more than Cork.
Difficult to see anyone stopping Derry. It is the dream draw on the dream side of the draw. Get the bunting up. Derry for Sam.
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Its a dream draw for Derry, great chance of making an AI final. Easy enough match for their players to get accustomed to Croke Park ahead of an AI semi final.
There will be absolutely nothing easy about it. Clare will be just as glad that they got us as we are to get them. They'll not have any fear of us.
Lets be honest, it will be their easiest game of the championship to date. I never understand lads on forums warily trying to talk up the opposition ahead of a match as if their opinion is going to make one jot of difference.
Roscommon thought it was their easiest game to date and look what happened to them. Derry are no better than Roscommon. If they bring their Ulster form and aren't complacent they should be ok but I wouldn't write off Clare.
Roscommon are wide open defensively it was ideal game for Clare. They'll struggle against Derry defence and it should be a routine victory for Derry before a bigger test in the semi final.
Spot on, Roscommon were as open as a 5 Dollar hooker. No pressure on any of the Clare shooters, Derry don't do open, a huge chance to make it to an All Ireland final. Collins deserves huge credit for keeping Clare in the upper half of division 2 & an All Ireland Quarter Final appearance. Very honest side, well drilled & superably coached. Derry just have better players.
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Id rather have got someone else, Derry are favourites here, Clare be up for this
Yeah tricky draw for Derry. Definitely favourites but Clare a sticky side as Armagh know from experience. Will be really close game.
All this codology - all Derry fans wanted Clare.
Clare will also have wanted Derry.
Fantastic draw for Derry. Realistically they should expect to beat Clare although there's no doubt Clare will give a very good account of themselves.
Clare are useless - they should have been beat by an average Roscommon
Look at the result in the National league
A division 2/3 team at best
Basically a buy to the semi final
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 13, 2022, 02:55:04 PM
Clare are useless - they should have been beat by an average Roscommon
Look at the result in the National league
A division 2/3 team at best
Basically a buy to the semi final
Clare have been a Div 2 team since 2017.
Derry on the other hand have played three seasons in Div 3 and one season in Div 4 since 2017
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 13, 2022, 02:55:04 PM
Clare are useless - they should have been beat by an average Roscommon
Look at the result in the National league
A division 2/3 team at best
Basically a buy to the semi final
To call them useless is a bit harsh but Roscommon will be kicking themselves for not winning that match on Saturday. Clare have a few good forwards but Derrys brand of catenaccio will eat them up and the only downside for Derry is not getting a sterner test before the semi final.
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Quote from: sam03/05 on June 13, 2022, 02:55:04 PM
Clare are useless - they should have been beat by an average Roscommon
Look at the result in the National league
A division 2/3 team at best
Basically a buy to the semi final
Clare have been a Div 2 team since 2017.
Derry on the other hand have played three seasons in Div 3 and one season in Div 4 since 2017
Yes Clare are established Div 2 team that have have reached the last 8 of the championship a second time under Collins a fine achievement considering they struggled in Div 3 before he took over.
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Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
No football or hurling it appears. Not much of a Munster presence here at all.
They're being very written off. As are Galway.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 09:00:57 PM
No football or hurling it appears. Not much of a Munster presence here at all.
They're being very written off. As are Galway.
Same as 2001
Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
Clare jerseys flying out of Begley's in Dungannon. As are Galway ones.
Allegedly.
Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
They probably have more sense than to read some of the wind-up stuff on here. Clare are there on merit and will push Doire all the way. Doire Gaels will give the great county of Clare full respect as both teams have a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 09:00:57 PM
No football or hurling it appears. Not much of a Munster presence here at all.
They're being very written off. As are Galway.
Then how is banter going to work?
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 09:00:57 PM
No football or hurling it appears. Not much of a Munster presence here at all.
They're being very written off. As are Galway.
Don't think anyone has written off Galway, it's very much a 50/50 game and probably the only match of the three that is difficult to call.
Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
I am from Dublin but support Clare too as my father county. Was in Croke Park with him Saturday and was a great day.
Derry 1/8, generous odds I think.
You Derry supporters just stop trying to kid us here, probably all around the county the fixture was greeted with jubilant high fives all day long
Quote from: Main Street on June 13, 2022, 10:26:25 PM
Derry 1/8, generous odds I think.
You Derry supporters just stop trying to kid us here, probably all around the county the fixture was greeted with jubilant high fives all day long
We were the provincial champions everyone wanted to draw.
Clare or Cork were the qualifiers everyone wanted to draw.
Obviously happy with the draw, but 30 counties are supporting Clare.
Tickets on sale tomorrow morning @ 10am NOT through the clubs!
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Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
I am from Dublin but support Clare too as my father county. Was in Croke Park with him Saturday and was a great day.
What's seldom is beautiful! Hard to beat a day in Croke Park watching your own.
Would have a soft spot for Clare. Think it stems from the hurlers in the mid nineties who made the breakthrough in the same era as Derry did in the football. Great men like baker, Lohans , Daly, O'Connor and lynch. There was something special about that group of players.
I watched Colm Collins along the line in a National league game a few years back and his demeanor is relaxed and zen like. A class act when interviewed as well.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 09:00:57 PM
No football or hurling it appears. Not much of a Munster presence here at all.
They're being very written off. As are Galway.
Who on earth is writing Galway off?
Quote from: Main Street on June 13, 2022, 10:26:25 PM
Derry 1/8, generous odds I think.
You Derry supporters just stop trying to kid us here, probably all around the county the fixture was greeted with jubilant high fives all day long
I didn't see any high fives. Monaghan could have beaten Derry, Donegal also. Clare will pose as big a challenge if not greater than them - with the momentum they now have. As provincial champions, Doire will go in as favourites and probably rightly so. Means nothing if you don't perform. No room for kidding, go out and make it happen and I think Doire will. No easy games at this stage.
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Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
They probably have more sense than to read some of the wind-up stuff on here. Clare are there on merit and will push Doire all the way. Doire Gaels will give the great county of Clare full respect as both teams have a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
Thanks for that input Rory G.
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Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
I am from Dublin but support Clare too as my father county. Was in Croke Park with him Saturday and was a great day.
What's seldom is beautiful! Hard to beat a day in Croke Park watching your own.
Would have a soft spot for Clare. Think it stems from the hurlers in the mid nineties who made the breakthrough in the same era as Derry did in the football. Great men like baker, Lohans , Daly, O'Connor and lynch. There was something special about that group of players.
I watched Colm Collins along the line in a National league game a few years back and his demeanor is relaxed and zen like. A class act when interviewed as well.
Collins has done an unbelievable job with Clare. Couldn't get out of Division 4 before he came in. Massive achievement to keep Clare in D2 each year and now second time to reach last 8.
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Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
Emmm, are there any Clare football supporters on GAA Board?
They probably have more sense than to read some of the wind-up stuff on here. Clare are there on merit and will push Doire all the way. Doire Gaels will give the great county of Clare full respect as both teams have a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
Thanks for that input Rory G.
No bother WUT. Don't forget to enjoy the match!
Is it possible to buy this game of sky as a one off use of sky.
I have sky but not thuis subscription
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Is it possible to buy this game of sky as a one off use of sky.
I have sky but not thuis subscription
gaa go maybe? There was another app for it, possibly now tv but forget off the top of my head.
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Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 11:55:13 AM
Is it possible to buy this game of sky as a one off use of sky.
I have sky but not thuis subscription
gaa go maybe? There was another app for it, possibly now tv but forget off the top of my head.
I will be going to the game but was hoping to record it for posterity
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 11:55:13 AM
Is it possible to buy this game of sky as a one off use of sky.
I have sky but not thuis subscription
Know anyone who'd let you borrow their Sky Go?
This could be the pick of the quarter finals. Two really attacking teams going at it in the wide open spaces of Croke park. Hopefully both teams lack of experience in croke park doesn't lead to too many nerves and they settle down quickly. This will definitely be tight but both teams will see it as a great chance to progress. Hopefully Derry can get over the line by a point or 2.
It's also interesting that they've gone with all the division 2 teams on the Saturday and all the division 1 teams on the Sunday.
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 11:55:13 AM
Is it possible to buy this game of sky as a one off use of sky.
I have sky but not thuis subscription
Get a nowtv sports pass for the day, not cheap at £11.98 though
https://www.nowtv.com/sports-purchase (https://www.nowtv.com/sports-purchase)
Quote from: lenny on June 14, 2022, 12:31:35 PM
This could be the pick of the quarter finals. Two really attacking teams going at it in the wide open spaces of Croke park. Hopefully both teams lack of experience in croke park doesn't lead to too many nerves and they settle down quickly. This will definitely be tight but both teams will see it as a great chance to progress. Hopefully Derry can get over the line by a point or 2.
It's also interesting that they've gone with all the division 2 teams on the Saturday and all the division 1 teams on the Sunday.
Two really good counter attacking teams possibly but I think it's a stretch to describe Derry as a really good attacking team Lenny? We play 15 behind the ball when not in possession.
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Quote from: lenny on June 14, 2022, 12:31:35 PM
This could be the pick of the quarter finals. Two really attacking teams going at it in the wide open spaces of Croke park. Hopefully both teams lack of experience in croke park doesn't lead to too many nerves and they settle down quickly. This will definitely be tight but both teams will see it as a great chance to progress. Hopefully Derry can get over the line by a point or 2.
It's also interesting that they've gone with all the division 2 teams on the Saturday and all the division 1 teams on the Sunday.
Two really good counter attacking teams possibly but I think it's a stretch to describe Derry as a really good attacking team Lenny? We play 15 behind the ball when not in possession.
16 including Gallagher
17, the ref be standing bck as well lol.
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Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 11:55:13 AM
Is it possible to buy this game of sky as a one off use of sky.
I have sky but not thuis subscription
Get a nowtv sports pass for the day, not cheap at £11.98 though
https://www.nowtv.com/sports-purchase (https://www.nowtv.com/sports-purchase)
won't be able to record and keep, unless you've a video camera set up in the living room to record the TV that is😉
The nerves must be kicking in, awfully quiet.
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The nerves must be kicking in, awfully quiet.
Awful busy - minors and seniors - you know the craic. Or maybe you don't?
Derry will win by 10 points I think. The people here talk about being loyal Derry fans yet they don't seem to have much faith in their team who are Ulster Champions playing against a team who were lucky to win the last game. I will be watching in Cusack upper, the same place I was at in the last QF in 2007.
It will be interested to see what the semi final crowd is like, the last Derry semi final in 2004 the crowd was only around 35,000.
Quote from: Loughshore2022 on June 16, 2022, 01:46:04 PM
Derry will win by 10 points I think. The people here talk about being loyal Derry fans yet they don't seem to have much faith in their team who are Ulster Champions playing against a team who were lucky to win the last game. I will be watching in Cusack upper, the same place I was at in the last QF in 2007.
It will be interested to see what the semi final crowd is like, the last Derry semi final in 2004 the crowd was only around 35,000.
If we don't win by 7/8 points there is no point progressing. I appreciate the experience is critical to long term development. Our defensive style should not prevent us scoring as Clare should allow for lots of turnovers. I agree on your post.
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Quote from: Loughshore2022 on June 16, 2022, 01:46:04 PM
Derry will win by 10 points I think. The people here talk about being loyal Derry fans yet they don't seem to have much faith in their team who are Ulster Champions playing against a team who were lucky to win the last game. I will be watching in Cusack upper, the same place I was at in the last QF in 2007.
It will be interested to see what the semi final crowd is like, the last Derry semi final in 2004 the crowd was only around 35,000.
If we don't win by 7/8 points there is no point progressing. I appreciate the experience is critical to long term development. Our defensive style should not prevent us scoring as Clare should allow for lots of turnovers. I agree on your post.
Definitely, if we are only a couple of points up with time nearly gone we would be better to concede a goal or 2 rather than progressing and maybe getting beat in the next round.
8)
if we only win by a couple of points our next game will be lour last. This has to be put into the context that we have as good a draw as you could wish for. With the performances we put into the Tyrone & Donegal game we should expect the level of performance that results in a 6/7/8 point win. I expect Galway to beat Armagh
Winning by a point is enough and always will be in knockout championship. Simple as, no need to complicate. Doire abú.
Be a liar if I said I wasn't a bit nervous and would take a one point win in a heartbeat. The team needs as many games against the top sides as possible. I'd love them to get to a final against a Kerry or Dublin even if they do lose, it's the best way to learn. I actually wanted Mayo in the draw as it's the team we'd learn most from. We're in bonus territory at this stage.
Not nervous I just enjoy the game. Derry got what they wanted this Yr, anything after a plus.They not beat Dublin or Kerry, so this and possible nxt game a free shot to improve Our panel us way too young and because of this, not even been used. I like to see a number of previous players invited bck nxt Yr if they fit for it to strengthen the team and panel.
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Not nervous I just enjoy the game. Derry got what they wanted this Yr, anything after a plus.They not bear Dublin or Kerry, so this and possible nxyt game a free shot to improve Our panel us way too young and because of this, not even been used. I like to see a number of previous players invited bck nxt Yr if they fit for it to strengthen the team and panel.
Who?
Lot of disrespect to Clare on this thread.
Anyhow, match and train tickets bought. Great to get back to Croke Park. Where are we meeting up?
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 16, 2022, 10:27:33 PM
Lot of disrespect to Clare on this thread.
Anyhow, match and train tickets bought. Great to get back to Croke Park. Where are we meeting up?
Only from certain posters trying to stir it. Meeting up is Parnell Park.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 16, 2022, 10:27:33 PM
Lot of disrespect to Clare on this thread.
Anyhow, match and train tickets bought. Great to get back to Croke Park. Where are we meeting up?
bollox, its more an expectation of where we are at and how we have improved. Limerick bt Clare, who in turn were stuffed by Kerry minus Clifford. if we haven't the confidence to believe we can win this game 6/7, then Croke park is not the place to be against a Kerry or Dublin or Galway.
Quote from: shawshank on June 17, 2022, 12:12:08 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 16, 2022, 10:27:33 PM
Lot of disrespect to Clare on this thread.
Anyhow, match and train tickets bought. Great to get back to Croke Park. Where are we meeting up?
bollox, its more an expectation of where we are at and how we have improved. Limerick bt Clare, who in turn were stuffed by Kerry minus Clifford. if we haven't the confidence to believe we can win this game 6/7, then Croke park is not the place to be against a Kerry or Dublin or Galway.
How can people judge by how many points a team will win a match by?
What's the science behind it?
I normally just say X will win. I couldn't say by how much as it's impossible to say.
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Quote from: marty34 on June 17, 2022, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: shawshank on June 17, 2022, 12:12:08 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 16, 2022, 10:27:33 PM
Lot of disrespect to Clare on this thread.
Anyhow, match and train tickets bought. Great to get back to Croke Park. Where are we meeting up?
bollox, its more an expectation of where we are at and how we have improved. Limerick bt Clare, who in turn were stuffed by Kerry minus Clifford. if we haven't the confidence to believe we can win this game 6/7, then Croke park is not the place to be against a Kerry or Dublin or Galway.
How can people judge by how many points a team will win a match by?
What's the science behind it?
I normally just say X will win. I couldn't say by how much as it's impossible to say.
you must be getting on as badly as me in thr predictions competition then ;)
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
I was in Longford that day also, and again when Fermanagh turned us over in Healy Park. Two games I knew we would win easily..
This is the first year of this Derry team after a long time since the last Ulster. If it stops this weekend or at the next stage it will already have been a good year. Derry are back and will be around for a while.
Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Very very difficult for Derry lads not to have half an eye on the All Ireland semi final. No matter what management says to them and they say to each other, it's just human nature.
Whereas Clare's focus is totally on this game, and are coming off a good win in Croke Park.
I do think Derry should be too good, but it is a potential banana skin.
Rory Gallagher will ensure they focused on this game, years and teams gone by, they have the eyes of the ball but not this team.
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Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Very very difficult for Derry lads not to have half an eye on the All Ireland semi final. No matter what management says to them and they say to each other, it's just human nature.
Whereas Clare's focus is totally on this game, and are coming off a good win in Croke Park.
I do think Derry should be too good, but it is a potential banana skin.
Clare scored 2-15 (21) to get that good win, the chances of them scoring close to that total against a well organised Derry defence as they showed throughout the Ulster campaign?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 02:40:07 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Very very difficult for Derry lads not to have half an eye on the All Ireland semi final. No matter what management says to them and they say to each other, it's just human nature.
Whereas Clare's focus is totally on this game, and are coming off a good win in Croke Park.
I do think Derry should be too good, but it is a potential banana skin.
Clare scored 2-15 (21) to get that good win, the chances of them scoring close to that total against a well organised Derry defence as they showed throughout the Ulster campaign?
True, well said.
But it is harder to play a defensive system in Croke Park. Unless you completely sacrifice your attack. Hopefully Derry won't do that and will accept the Croke Park factor might give more chances to the opposition, but knowing they should still have enough to outscore Clare.
I don't think Derry are as defensive as people make out. Or the media make out I should say! I think some have twisted the fact they are very good defensively (and have some top class defenders) into that they play a very (I.e. over the top) defensive system like some Ulster teams have been in the not too distant past. I don't think the main aim will be to stop Clare scoring.
The proof of the pudding will be next week of course.
Donegal weren't either and it's a similar style. Fast paced counter attack stuff where they're that fit they're in attack one second or in defense the next.
Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 02:40:07 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Very very difficult for Derry lads not to have half an eye on the All Ireland semi final. No matter what management says to them and they say to each other, it's just human nature.
Whereas Clare's focus is totally on this game, and are coming off a good win in Croke Park.
I do think Derry should be too good, but it is a potential banana skin.
Clare scored 2-15 (21) to get that good win, the chances of them scoring close to that total against a well organised Derry defence as they showed throughout the Ulster campaign?
True, well said.
But it is harder to play a defensive system in Croke Park. Unless you completely sacrifice your attack. Hopefully Derry won't do that and will accept the Croke Park factor might give more chances to the opposition, but knowing they should still have enough to outscore Clare.
I don't think Derry are as defensive as people make out. Or the media make out I should say! I think some have twisted the fact they are very good defensively (and have some top class defenders) into that they play a very (I.e. over the top) defensive system like some Ulster teams have been in the not too distant past. I don't think the main aim will be to stop Clare scoring.
The proof of the pudding will be next week of course.
I've seen this a few times now about Derry not being able to play as defensive in the wide open spaces if CP.
Owenbeg was built to the same dimensions as CP, so Derry will have been able to train and practice on a comparative pitch. So I don't think the size if CP will be factor..
There may be a temptation to change the gameplan against Clare but I hope they stick to what has worked so far and work on improving the transition from defence to attack.
Derry by 7 points
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Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 02:40:07 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Very very difficult for Derry lads not to have half an eye on the All Ireland semi final. No matter what management says to them and they say to each other, it's just human nature.
Whereas Clare's focus is totally on this game, and are coming off a good win in Croke Park.
I do think Derry should be too good, but it is a potential banana skin.
Clare scored 2-15 (21) to get that good win, the chances of them scoring close to that total against a well organised Derry defence as they showed throughout the Ulster campaign?
True, well said.
But it is harder to play a defensive system in Croke Park. Unless you completely sacrifice your attack. Hopefully Derry won't do that and will accept the Croke Park factor might give more chances to the opposition, but knowing they should still have enough to outscore Clare.
I don't think Derry are as defensive as people make out. Or the media make out I should say! I think some have twisted the fact they are very good defensively (and have some top class defenders) into that they play a very (I.e. over the top) defensive system like some Ulster teams have been in the not too distant past. I don't think the main aim will be to stop Clare scoring.
The proof of the pudding will be next week of course.
I've seen this a few times now about Derry not being able to play as defensive in the wide open spaces if CP.
Owenbeg was built to the same dimensions as CP, so Derry will have been able to train and practice on a comparative pitch. So I don't think the size if CP will be factor..
There may be a temptation to change the gameplan against Clare but I hope they stick to what has worked so far and work on improving the transition from defence to attack.
If there is an effect (wide open spaces syndrome) it has to be psychological or delusional.
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Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 19, 2022, 02:40:07 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on June 17, 2022, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Maybe it's just me, but with the number of false dawns we've had with Derry over the last 25 years, its difficult for me to go to any game in absolute confidence that we're going to win. I remember going to Longford full of confidence in the qualifiers and getting turned over. On paper that should never have happened.
We "should" win.
We beat them in the league and we've arguably beaten stronger sides to get to the quarter final than Clare have.
But....championship is championship and we're not a well enough proven team to be sooo confident in our ability to beat Clare in a QF.
If Derry have their feet on the ground and if we have no major injuries AND if Clare don't bring a whole new level to their game against us (which can happen at this stage in the championship - see Tyrone last year) AND we don't have some ridiculous bit of refereeing then we should win.
Clare have nothing to lose here, no expectation off them and so no pressure. It's set up perfectly for them and they'll see it as a chance to get to an AIF too. Clare should lift their game, might get the rub of the green here or there and perhaps get a favourable referee. That tips the scales back a bit towards them.
Lots of if's in there and that's where the doubt comes in from my point of view.
Still really looking forward to it, especially taking the kids to see Derry in CP for the first time.
Perfect post, I think most of derry will echo that too
Totally realistic. As I said before Clare beat Roscommon who thought they would win. If Derry have any complacency (which hopefully they won't have) they could easily be turned over after not playing for a month.
Very very difficult for Derry lads not to have half an eye on the All Ireland semi final. No matter what management says to them and they say to each other, it's just human nature.
Whereas Clare's focus is totally on this game, and are coming off a good win in Croke Park.
I do think Derry should be too good, but it is a potential banana skin.
Clare scored 2-15 (21) to get that good win, the chances of them scoring close to that total against a well organised Derry defence as they showed throughout the Ulster campaign?
True, well said.
But it is harder to play a defensive system in Croke Park. Unless you completely sacrifice your attack. Hopefully Derry won't do that and will accept the Croke Park factor might give more chances to the opposition, but knowing they should still have enough to outscore Clare.
I don't think Derry are as defensive as people make out. Or the media make out I should say! I think some have twisted the fact they are very good defensively (and have some top class defenders) into that they play a very (I.e. over the top) defensive system like some Ulster teams have been in the not too distant past. I don't think the main aim will be to stop Clare scoring.
The proof of the pudding will be next week of course.
I've seen this a few times now about Derry not being able to play as defensive in the wide open spaces if CP.
Owenbeg was built to the same dimensions as CP, so Derry will have been able to train and practice on a comparative pitch. So I don't think the size if CP will be factor..
There may be a temptation to change the gameplan against Clare but I hope they stick to what has worked so far and work on improving the transition from defence to attack.
If there is an effect (wide open spaces syndrome) it has to be psychological or delusional.
Never had the pleasure myself but anyone I've ever heard talking about it says Croke Park plays far bigger than anywhere else.
Think it's more the speed of the surface that makes the difference ie it doesn't play bigger but it plays faster.
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 20, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
Think it's more the speed of the surface that makes the difference ie it doesn't play bigger but it plays faster.
Yeah that's a fair point.
We won't know until the day I suppose!
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 20, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
Think it's more the speed of the surface that makes the difference ie it doesn't play bigger but it plays faster.
Eh?
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Quote from: Keyser soze on June 20, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
Think it's more the speed of the surface that makes the difference ie it doesn't play bigger but it plays faster.
Eh?
The surface can run faster than other surfaces
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 20, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
Think it's more the speed of the surface that makes the difference ie it doesn't play bigger but it plays faster.
I remember talking to some lads who were playing in an intermediate club final a few years back and one of them mentioned that the size of the stands threw them off a bit in terms of judging distance when kicking. Was something I hadn't heard mentioned before in discussion about playing in Croke Park. This would have been their first time playing in Croke Park. Their own pitch would be a big pitch and not far off Croke Park size.
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Quote from: Keyser soze on June 20, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
Think it's more the speed of the surface that makes the difference ie it doesn't play bigger but it plays faster.
I remember talking to some lads who were playing in an intermediate club final a few years back and one of them mentioned that the size of the stands threw them off a bit in terms of judging distance when kicking. Was something I hadn't heard mentioned before in discussion about playing in Croke Park. This would have been their first time playing in Croke Park. Their own pitch would be a big pitch and not far off Croke Park size.
I think it is helpful that Armagh had a good game in Croke Park back in January. It means that all their players are used to the place and associate it with success. If Armagh go at it then they have every chance, but if they are apprehensive and timid then they are banjaxed.
U don't get used to a pitch after 1 game, seriously what Meath, Kildare excuse, they play there every Yr. Dublin who plays most games there, the only team used to Croke Park.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 21, 2022, 12:19:14 AM
U don't get used to a pitch after 1 game, seriously what Meath, Kildare excuse, they play there every Yr. Dublin who plays most games there, the only team used to Croke Park.
Being hammered in Croke Park doesn't advance you, for sure.
Seemingly Derry will have a clean bill of health for the match.
What about Clare, any injury concerns or will they be full strength too?
The closer this game gets the more concerned I am for Clare.
I'd imagine Rory Gallagher as meticulous as he is will have had Derry training on a surface as close to Croke Parks as possible and will have had the squad down for a tour of the facilities. A number of the Derry players will have played there for their clubs and school. Both teams are as susceptible to the atmosphere and size of the crowd in attendance.
In my opinion the speed of the surface will suit Derry's counter attacking game. Think Tyrone in the latter years under Mickey Harte. When Clare meet the mass zonal defence it, the only way to unlock it is through patient movement trying to open gaps in it. If Derry get a turnover they'll have 60-80 metres of wide open spaces to carry into. Every turnover Derry get will boost their morale and sap Clare's. Tyrone have destroyed teams playing like this but it was never enough to win an All-Ireland. As brutal as it would be to watch the only way Clare have a chance is to mimic Derry but there's no way they've had enough time to prepare that sort of game plan.
Dublin are the masters of unlocking this sort of defence. You often hear talk of how they would have worked with basketball coaches on their movement to open up the spaces. Very similar scenario except obviously on a larger scale.
On another note Derry like Armagh will fully be convinced they can beat anyone. Rory Gallagher's intense style of management has a limited life space. You'd imagine Derry have this year and next year to challenge for an AI under Gallagher before fatigue sets into the group.
if Derry were playing either of Meath or Roscommon they wouldn't be clear favourites to beat them and Clare have defeated both of them, this will be a very tough game with very little in it.
Derry folk will continue to trot out the old cliche about it being a tough game etc.
Truth of the matter is Derry are clear favourites for a reason - they are expected to win comfortably.
They have a superb system and will dismantle Clare - easy win for Doire
You thought Ros would beat them handy, how did that pan out?
Clare were beaten in Munster by Limerick. Lets be honest if Derry don't beat them after beating 3 Division One teams to win Ulster then their season will end on a massive downer. I don't buy into any argument that they are in bonus territory for the season and I don't believe Rory Gallagher will either. You strike when the iron is hot since opportunities like this don't come along too often the way the draw has panned out. The same applies for Armagh and Galway.
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 23, 2022, 02:40:22 PM
You thought Ros would beat them handy, how did that pan out?
Who thought that?
Quote from: yellowcard on June 23, 2022, 02:59:30 PM
Clare were beaten in Munster by Limerick. Lets be honest if Derry don't beat them after beating 3 Division One teams to win Ulster then their season will end on a massive downer. I don't buy into any argument that they are in bonus territory for the season and I don't believe Rory Gallagher will either. You strike when the iron is hot since opportunities like this don't come along too often the way the draw has panned out. The same applies for Armagh and Galway.
Lost on penalties to Limerick and Clare was without their best midfielder Cathal O'Connor and best forward Keelan Sexton. I'd agree with your main point it would be a massive downer for Derry if they finished the season with a defeat in this game.
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 23, 2022, 04:02:49 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 23, 2022, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 23, 2022, 02:40:22 PM
You thought Ros would beat them handy, how did that pan out?
Who thought that?
Taylor
haha
You boys are some craic.
Come back on Sunday after you destroy them and lets talk
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Quote from: tbrick18 on June 22, 2022, 04:47:26 PM
Seemingly Derry will have a clean bill of health for the match.
What about Clare, any injury concerns or will they be full strength too?
Clare have Cillian Brennan back. Stephen Ryan, Sean Collins and Darragh Bohannon out with long term injuries.
Armagh packed with Derry wans now, leaving it a wee bite late.
so half of the all ireland quarter finals are on sky what a disgrace
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on June 25, 2022, 01:08:14 PM
Armagh packed with Derry wans now, leaving it a wee bite late.
That is leaving it tight.
In last year's Ulster Final at CP, there was a Monaghan family near us that only got in for the start of the 2nd half as they had misjudged the Saturday traffic. Also the closer it gets the harder it will be to find a decent parking space.
No interest in today's one sided affairs.
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2022, 01:35:18 PM
so half of the all ireland quarter finals are on sky what a disgrace
Feck that anyway. I just got the chores done and was ready to sit down to an evenings football
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2022, 01:35:18 PM
so half of the all ireland quarter finals are on sky what a disgrace
Why?
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on June 25, 2022, 01:08:14 PM
Armagh packed with Derry wans now, leaving it a wee bite late.
Oofff, that'll be tight.
Derry to win by 4
Dubs by 16
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
the empty seats are not a good look for a QF
That was a poor start... looking better now
Game over
That's that.
Clare are very poor. This was always going to be the outcome.
Good lot of wides too by both...
The second game could follow same pattern
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
the empty seats are not a good look for a QF
Clare and Cork have no fans just hurling counties, and the Dubs are still in pub.
Too big of a gap for double headers now. There's a massive Derry crowd in there but spread out all over
Some great goals by Derry in fairness, terrific clinical finishing. Look very good so far
Quote from: full moon on June 25, 2022, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
the empty seats are not a good look for a QF
Clare and Cork have no fans just hurling counties, and the Dubs are still in pub.
Too big of a gap for double headers now. There's a massive Derry crowd in there but spread out all over
The Dubs are at home relaxing or cutting the lawn, still at work, or doing what ever they normally do on a Saturday. They'll head for the pub about 8pm after the match.
Quote from: full moon on June 25, 2022, 04:24:22 PM
Some great goals by Derry in fairness, terrific clinical finishing. Look very good so far
All too easy for Derry, Clare look like a side that just happy to be in the last 8 while up against a side determined to reach the last 8. Clare only 0-1 scored after 30 minutes at least they had a bit of kick in them but Derry have brushed that aside with their 3rd goal.
It's a long long way for Clare from here.
Quote from: full moon on June 25, 2022, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
the empty seats are not a good look for a QF
Clare and Cork have no fans just hurling counties, and the Dubs are still in pub.
Too big of a gap for double headers now. There's a massive Derry crowd in there but spread out all over
Plenty of Derry wans in the pub earlier going by the photos!
Derry very athletic
Not that it needs to be said again, but SKY coverage and analysis miles better than RTE
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2022, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 25, 2022, 04:24:22 PM
Some great goals by Derry in fairness, terrific clinical finishing. Look very good so far
All too easy for Derry, Clare look like a side that just happy to be in the last 8 while up against a side determined to reach the last 8. Clare only 0-1 scored after 30 minutes at least they had a bit of kick in them but Derry have brushed that aside with their 3rd goal.
Some pundits reckoned Clare would make a tight game of it
The keeper has been clean useless
Clare keeper very good at making himself as small as possible when a player is bearing down on him.
turning into a joke of a game
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 04:46:58 PM
The keeper has been clean useless
His defenders in front of him aren't much better. Derry in fairness to them have used the four week break well. Fit and full of running Clare are chasing shadows.
Quote from: full moon on June 25, 2022, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2022, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 25, 2022, 04:24:22 PM
Some great goals by Derry in fairness, terrific clinical finishing. Look very good so far
All too easy for Derry, Clare look like a side that just happy to be in the last 8 while up against a side determined to reach the last 8. Clare only 0-1 scored after 30 minutes at least they had a bit of kick in them but Derry have brushed that aside with their 3rd goal.
Some pundits reckoned Clare would make a tight game of it
You mean to say that some pre match predictions were not correct?
Quite funny from the Derry keeper to completely misjudge his angles and leave an empty net!
Goals, Goals, Goals!
Clare would be better sticking to the hurling.
I'm leaving the country for the month of July.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 25, 2022, 05:07:56 PM
Clare would be better sticking to the hurling.
To be fair, they do stick to hurling.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 25, 2022, 05:07:56 PM
Clare would be better sticking to the hurling.
They'd actually be better if they didn't play hurling. At least 3 of the hurling team would start on the football team.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 05:16:21 PM
I'm leaving the country for the month of July.
;D
It's impressive stuff.
Quote from: shark on June 25, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 25, 2022, 05:07:56 PM
Clare would be better sticking to the hurling.
They'd actually be better if they didn't play hurling. At least 3 of the hurling team would start on the football team.
Only 3?!
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 05:16:21 PM
I'm leaving the country for the month of July.
There will be Orange triumphalism, no doubt.
some teams in taiteaan cup are probably better than clare
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2022, 05:28:22 PM
some teams in taiteaan cup are probably better than clare
+1 (or on the same level)
Clare are not that bad. They played against a system they really just struggled with. Derry a very good team.
Good win for Derry, very impressive, but Clare's refusal to kick the ball forward was criminal - eventho Clare's style of play is well known it was crying out for a long pass on so many occasions. I'd say Galway and Armagh would pose Derry some proper serious questions with their kick passing. Derry goalie is an obvious weaklink.
Kevin McStay calling one of the goals a soccer goal.
Goal must have been headed in......... ;D
Enough of embarrassed people in Roscommon this evening without that resident adding himself.....
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2022, 05:55:20 PM
Enough of embarrassed people in Roscommon this evening without that resident adding himself.....
The embarrassment was Clare's and Clare's alone today.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2022, 05:55:20 PM
Enough of embarrassed people in Roscommon this evening without that resident adding himself.....
The embarrassment was Clare's and Clare's alone today.
With 67 minutes played Roscommon with 5 point lead allowed that Clare team play in todays Quarter final which they were totally out of their depth in. One Embarrassment avoided another.
Clare are a solid d2 team, been there since 2016 and this is their 2nd quarter since then, with 2 of those years not having quarter finals, so I'd say most of those comments deriding them are a touch misplaced. They beat meath and rossies to get here, not many tailteann teams would do that. They'll obviously struggle against the very top teams, like most counties, but give them some respect. They had an off day against a team hungry for more success.
Quote from: onefineday on June 25, 2022, 06:58:30 PM
Clare are a solid d2 team, been there since 2016 and this is their 2nd quarter since then, with 2 of those years not having quarter finals, so I'd say most of those comments deriding them are a touch misplaced. They beat meath and rossies to get here, not many tailteann teams would do that. They'll obviously struggle against the very top teams, like most counties, but give them some respect. They had an off day against a team hungry for more success.
118k population. All Ireland semi hurling , quarters football. We could never achieve that as a county and far bigger population , I've massive respect for them .
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 25, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2022, 05:55:20 PM
Enough of embarrassed people in Roscommon this evening without that resident adding himself.....
The embarrassment was Clare's and Clare's alone today.
With 67 minutes played Roscommon with 5 point lead allowed that Clare team play in todays Quarter final which they were totally out of their depth in. One Embarrassment avoided another.
But Clare are a regular Div. 2 team.
What does that say?
Congrats to Derry, and to Clare for making last 8. We would have got beaten well by Derry today, so Clare did indeed save us that. I said before they won Ulster that the Galway hammering in league was a freak result. Should they meet in semi, there won't be a repeat and would be a tasty semi. We'll see how tomorrow goes. I think Derry would find Armagh a tougher prospect, and would be an intriguing game too.
Quote from: weareros on June 25, 2022, 07:15:25 PM
Congrats to Derry, and to Clare for making last 8. We would have got beaten well by Derry today, so Clare did indeed save us that. I said before they won Ulster that the Galway hammering in league was a freak result. Should they meet in semi, there won't be a repeat and would be a tasty semi. We'll see how tomorrow goes. I think Derry would find Armagh a tougher prospect, and would be an intriguing game too.
Galway tougher
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 25, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2022, 05:55:20 PM
Enough of embarrassed people in Roscommon this evening without that resident adding himself.....
The embarrassment was Clare's and Clare's alone today.
With 67 minutes played Roscommon with 5 point lead allowed that Clare team play in todays Quarter final which they were totally out of their depth in. One Embarrassment avoided another.
But Clare are a regular Div. 2 team.
What does that say?
That's their level at the moment. Collins having them Div 2 for so long is punching above their weight. All Ireland quarter final in Croke Park is a big step up from spring league football.
Derry undeniably impressive. Into the semis, serious stuff it well able for it.
Some All-Stars likely too.
Congratulations to Derry they've had a great season no matter what happens but they will have learned very little today. Let's be honest Clare were woeful and while I expected Derry to win easily I did think that Clare would at least put up some resistance. But the match was over before it really began.
For me the jury is still out on Derry even though they have done that has been asked of them in the championship to date. They could well be good enough to get to the final but we will know more after tomorrows game as to who will start the semi final as favourites.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 05:16:21 PM
I'm leaving the country for the month of July.
I have. Ended up pinting all day with an Omagh man. Our mutual hatred for all things orange was refreshing.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 25, 2022, 07:32:22 PM
Derry undeniably impressive. Into the semis, serious stuff it well able for it.
Some All-Stars likely too.
Will be the usual in regards to All-Stars. Semi final exit expect 1 or two. 4 of 5 to the runners up and 8 or more for the AI winners.
Division 2 will be very interesting in 2023...
Dublin and Kildare down from Div 1 2022
Derry, Clare, Meath and Cork hold Div 2 status from 2022
Louth and Limerick up from Div 3.
The 20-year stats (with QF) say it's Div 1 teams that win the AI and that's also those teams not relegated. Kerry, Mayo, Armagh are the big guns for the stats. Not Derry unfortunately.
As said earlier in the thread
Clare are useless - how did they get to the last 8
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 25, 2022, 09:54:50 PM
As said earlier in the thread
Clare are useless - how did they get to the last 8
Ask Meath and Roscommon?
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 25, 2022, 09:54:50 PM
As said earlier in the thread
Clare are useless - how did they get to the last 8
Ask Meath and Roscommon?
Clare 2022 Championship:
Lost to Limerick (Div 3) on penalties in Munster Q-final at home;
Beat Meath (Div 2) by 2 points at home;
Beat Roscommon (who were promoted from Div 2) by 1 point at Croke Park;
Lost to Derry (Div 2) by 14 points at Croke Park.
Beating Roscommon is the result that is out of line in that list.
Didn't even thing Derry were that good today, tried for goals too much in the 2nd half when the easier points presented itself. Think E Bradley should start. Goalkeeper now a big worry, poor for both goals, though the first one came from slack marking in the defence, kicked 3 poor short balls out too which on another day could ended in more scores conceded.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Why was there tailbacks in Armagh?
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2022, 10:39:30 PM
Didn't even thing Derry were that good today, tried for goals too much in the 2nd half when the easier points presented itself. Think E Bradley should start. Goalkeeper now a big worry, poor for both goals, though the first one came from slack marking in the defence, kicked 3 poor short balls out too which on another day could ended in more scores conceded.
It was great to win by that margin and the goals were a treat.
But I think Derry strolled through that game and didn't show the same intensity, running or focus as they did in the Ulster Championship games.
I think they were at no more than 70% for that game.
I hope they can bring the intensity to the next match as we couldn't afford to give away two soft goals like that against Galway or Armagh.
Keeper didnt have his best game in nets, but I thought was very good supporting the defence and even contested a kickout.
Glass was brilliant, took a lot of abuse off the ball.
Lots of brilliant individual performances, but I felt a bit underwhelmed at the end.
I think there's more to Derry than what we saw today.
It has put the "Derry will find Croke Park difficult to play their game" myth to bed though. I think Derry are suited to that pitch.
We play with a lot of width and the space was definately a factor in the goals.
All round good day at the office for Derry, I hope we can peak at the right time for the semi.
Tough day for Clare, but they kept going to the end. Eoin Cleary is their best player by a mile, would get on any team.
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Why was there tailbacks in Armagh?
Because it's a curse to get through. Coming into Armagh the wee shopping centre always has traffic, then roundabouts and lights the whole way through.
Great win today. Would be a wee bit worried that we didn't kick another 4 or 5 points as we'll not score 5 goals the next day out. Still you can only beat what is in front of you. Clare will be massively disappointed they didn't give a better account of themselves.
Armagh was a disaster earlier. Think it was just Sat traffic combined with March traffic. If Armagh beat Galway will def be heading to Newry via Belfast. Stay away from too many bottlenecks.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2022, 10:39:30 PM
Didn't even thing Derry were that good today, tried for goals too much in the 2nd half when the easier points presented itself. Think E Bradley should start. Goalkeeper now a big worry, poor for both goals, though the first one came from slack marking in the defence, kicked 3 poor short balls out too which on another day could ended in more scores conceded.
Said that a few months ago. Positioning for Clare's 2nd goal was very poor but made a great save in the first half but seems a confidence thing.
For all their good going forward, Derry coughed up a lot of goal chances. Great for the players to play in Croke Park.
Need more points on the board though. Tighter defences won't open up as handy. Need to be hitting 15 or 16 pts in semi-final, create a few goal chances and take them.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:48:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Why was there tailbacks in Armagh?
Because it's a curse to get through. Coming into Armagh the wee shopping centre always has traffic, then roundabouts and lights the whole way through.
Bit mad going that way.
Handier down the motorway to Belfast.
Glass is a RollsRoyce of a player looked even better today than usual. Knew he would ping over the odd point didnt know hed a goal like that in his locker.
RG has improved the experienced guys you would have thought had reached their ceiling as well as bringin on some the lesser lights to a v high standard presently
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
Great win? It was a Under 14 score line. I'd be embarrassed. Clare quit about 10 mins in. Derry will have learned nothing.
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 25, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
Not sure.
Any double headers, it's usually before the 2nd game.
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 25, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
I think it's very disrespectful.
It gives the impression that the teams in the first match are not worthy of the National Anthem.
On a separate note, ticket allocations looked very suspect. Derry seemed to pushed into the four corners around CP.
Would there be a geo-tag on Ticketmaster directing the northern support into the perceived lesser seats at HQ?
Welcome to Croke Park..........it's all about the Dubs and your money!
If you think otherwise you'll soon learn after a few trips.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 25, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
I think it's very disrespectful.
It gives the impression that the teams in the first match are not worthy of the National Anthem.
On a separate note, ticket allocations looked very suspect. Derry seemed to pushed into the four corners around CP.
Would there be a geo-tag on Ticketmaster directing the northern support into the perceived lesser seats at HQ?
I wouldn't mind been in row Z if our lads could get 1 win in Croke Park (championship) since 1980. Youse hoors disappear of the face of the earth since 2004 & now have a serious chance of winning the All Ireland. Be happy man, would love to be in your position.
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 25, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
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Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
There is surely.
Quote from: Rudi on June 25, 2022, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 25, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
I think it's very disrespectful.
It gives the impression that the teams in the first match are not worthy of the National Anthem.
On a separate note, ticket allocations looked very suspect. Derry seemed to pushed into the four corners around CP.
Would there be a geo-tag on Ticketmaster directing the northern support into the perceived lesser seats at HQ?
I wouldn't mind been in row Z if our lads could get 1 win in Croke Park (championship) since 1980. Youse hoors disappear of the face of the earth since 2004 & now have a serious chance of winning the All Ireland. Be happy man, would love to be in your position.
Good point, well made
Derry more open at the bck hence the goal chances, with Rodgers playing at Midfield, he's better coming from deep. Other side of that, Glass acts as the attacking midfielder and can score. Derry should had another 5 odd points, too much f**king around, taking too much out of the ball, trying for goals when we had 5 already. Think a few of the forwards lucky we haven't more scoring power on the bench. Needs look where to play bradley, too good not to start.
Unless they come up against poorly organised teams Clare normally only score between 10 to 15 points in the majority of their league or championship matches. Scoring total of 14 today. Derry and Rory Gallagher knew a few early goals and game would be as good as over.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2022, 11:19:52 PM
Welcome to Croke Park..........it's all about the Dubs and your money!
If you think otherwise you'll soon learn after a few trips.
+1.
If it wasn't the Dublin Cork match would have been in Thurles or Limerick.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2022, 11:54:33 PM
Derry more open at the bck hence the goal chances, with Rodgers playing at Midfield, he's better coming from deep. Other side of that, Glass acts as the acting midfielder and can score. Derry should had another 5 odd points, too much f**king around, taking too much out of the ball, trying for goals when we had 5 already. Think a few of the forwards lucky we haven't more scoring power on the bench. Needs look where to play bradley, too good not to start.
What's story of naming Bradley but not starting him.
This has happened a few times before.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2022, 11:54:33 PM
Derry more open at the bck hence the goal chances, with Rodgers playing at Midfield, he's better coming from deep. Other side of that, Glass acts as the acting midfielder and can score. Derry should had another 5 odd points, too much f**king around, taking too much out of the ball, trying for goals when we had 5 already. Think a few of the forwards lucky we haven't more scoring power on the bench. Needs look where to play bradley, too good not to start.
I take it you refer to your drink as half empty, even when it's brimming?
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:52:52 PM
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Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Why was there tailbacks in Armagh?
Because it's a curse to get through. Coming into Armagh the wee shopping centre always has traffic, then roundabouts and lights the whole way through.
Bit mad going that way.
Handier down the motorway to Belfast.
Exactly, didn't know anyone still went via Armagh, on a great day traffic wise it will get you to Dublin in the almost the same time as going via Belfast, but 90% of the time it takes a lot, lot longer.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 25, 2022, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 25, 2022, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2022, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2022, 03:42:28 PM
Another first game of a double header infront huge swathes of empty seats. This game should have been in portlaoise or navan.
Lots of derry supporter missed the start of the game.
Huge tailbacks in Armagh, the toll on the motorway and there were reports of the main drumcondra road being closed.
Apparantly there's a Gay Pride march in Dublin tonight too so more than usual traffic.
Little to no traffic in around CP though.
The thing that irked me more than that though was why was there no national anthem before the Derry V Clare game, but for Dublin they had the band out and the anthem. Where's the equality in that!
Amhrán na bhFiann is always played before the 2nd match.
Is there a rule that the National Anthem can only be played once per day in any venue?
I think it's very disrespectful.
It gives the impression that the teams in the first match are not worthy of the National Anthem.
On a separate note, ticket allocations looked very suspect. Derry seemed to pushed into the four corners around CP.
Would there be a geo-tag on Ticketmaster directing the northern support into the perceived lesser seats at HQ?
No geo-tag, but bit of a joke that we were pushed into crappy corner areas when the whole upper Hogan was empty.
I'm quite sure there are primarily financial motivations behind it.
Quote from: onefineday on June 25, 2022, 06:58:30 PM
Clare are a solid d2 team, been there since 2016 and this is their 2nd quarter since then, with 2 of those years not having quarter finals, so I'd say most of those comments deriding them are a touch misplaced. They beat meath and rossies to get here, not many tailteann teams would do that. They'll obviously struggle against the very top teams, like most counties, but give them some respect. They had an off day against a team hungry for more success.
Clare a very decent side and would probably benefit from some sort of intermediate competition. They're more than holding their own in hurling and football so fair play to them- still out of their depth at the business end of the championship though.
Just thought it was a very professional performance yesterday we weren't at our best but we're ruthless when the chance presented itself.
Yea Clare were poor but we outworked them and imposed our game on them to the extent they couldn't cope.
Why oh why oh why the conceded the short kick out to us time and time again is a complete mystery. It's a glaring weakness for us yet I can't remember any stage where Lynch didn't have an easy pass and we strolled down the field. Was like feeding buns to bears as a great man once said!! 😉
An observation frommyself to those who say Derry have learned nothing today.
I have watched their young players grow in stature from game to game.
I would draw attention to Paul Cassidy , every game he grows more confident and displays more of his skill and Natural Talent. Also , Ethan Doherty growing to be one of the best link men in the Game. Connor mc cluskey whose Running now with more confidence and vision in each game.
This is not the Derry team that played Tyrone Monaghan or Donegal. Every game they have came away a better team than they started. I don't know how much further they can go but I do know this team want to find that out, and are a joy to be supporting.
This team learned that Croke park is just another venue and another challenge.
Anyone know if sky show full replays of yesterday's games later in the week?
No need to be anywhere near Armagh or Belfast.
Moneymore
Drummullan
Stewartstown
On to the M1 at tamnamore, then off at the next exit.
Richhill
Hamiltonsbawn
Back on to main road at Markethill.
Cuts out cookstown, dungannon, moy and Armagh.
Be alright only I have to lift 2in Ctown, I just get on the road real early.
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You thought Ros would beat them handy, how did that pan out?
Who thought that?
Taylor
haha
You boys are some craic.
Come back on Sunday after you destroy them and lets talk
So are we still convinced Clare will run ye close?