Official Cavan GAA Thread

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Bradley was not dominate, his partner Mc Guigan was more effective. Our second half proved we were more then capable of competing with them , but if you don't put on your best players your asking for trouble, and also we have to be honest and say we didn't play the first half with any self belief. S'neil were allowed to do what they wanted in the first half with very little intensity coming from us, and thats our problem. S'neil did just about enought o win and over the game was the better team, but we finished with a better team than we started, why?

Second half yeah the Gaels did come out fighting but there had to something as there nothing in the first half, Slaughtneil didn't seem to have the same intensity in the second half?
Martin Dunne scored 4-5 against Lacken a few weeks ago yet he  didn't start, although he was poor when he came on dropping ball and going for hollywood points.

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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

The Gaels never played their best 15 any time throughout the Championship. When they ran at pace they caused problems. The first minute in the final when Murray ran straight through the middle of the defence James Farrelly pulled of  a great save been an example.  I was talking to a Lacken player after the drawn march and he couldn't believe Maloney -Derham,Johnston,Dunne didn't start.
Not knowing your best 15 players does give the team confidence. They struggled by slowing down the ball and allowed teams to get 13 men behind the ball when they should have run and moved the ball at pace. I have always admired Mickey Lyng as a footballer but yesterday again he slowed everything down looking for the perfect pass. Nearly every free kick he took went backwards. The Gaels supporters in the stand were shouting in frustration. When they moved at speed they won a lot of frees for been taken down- Maloney Derham in the first half yesterday was going through on goal and was pulled down by the last man!   

[Westside]

Was at West Cavan Gaels v Assan Gaels last night. Dogged enough affair, West Cavan won but should have it closed out earlier. For West Cavan Niall Walsh was the stand out player, Fergal Donohoe Benjamin Kelly and Liam Galligan all played well.

Hope the Gaels can get a result today but from the way Dunne talked about the end of the year after the County Final and Johnston talking about this being "bonus territory" it doesn't seem like they believe it themselves.

5 is a bit much all right but to be fair Swad only have 1 on the panel.
It must have been pretty dogged with 8 clubs involved among the 2 amalgamations.

5 is a bit much all right but Swad only have 1 on the panel.

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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

The Gaels never played their best 15 any time throughout the Championship. When they ran at pace they caused problems. The first minute in the final when Murray ran straight through the middle of the defence James Farrelly pulled of  a great save been an example.  I was talking to a Lacken player after the drawn march and he couldn't believe Maloney -Derham,Johnston,Dunne didn't start.
Not knowing your best 15 players does give the team confidence. They struggled by slowing down the ball and allowed teams to get 13 men behind the ball when they should have run and moved the ball at pace. I have always admired Mickey Lyng as a footballer but yesterday again he slowed everything down looking for the perfect pass. Nearly every free kick he took went backwards. The Gaels supporters in the stand were shouting in frustration. When they moved at speed they won a lot of frees for been taken down- Maloney Derham in the first half yesterday was going through on goal and was pulled down by the last man!

Johnston didn't start any game in the chamionship up to te Semi final so was no surprise he didn't start against Lacken. Also Martin Dunne missed practically all of the championship, again no surprise he didnt start against Lacken

Cavan Gaels: M Cassidy, N Gurhy, J Fortune, N Murray (0-01), B Fortune, E Reilly, L Murphy, D Reilly, R Maloney Derham, D Meehan (0-01, f), M Lyng, D Graham, S Johnston (0-06, 5f), V Coyle, C McClary. Subs: M Dunne for McClary, N Smith for Coyle, P Graham (0-1) for D Graham, A Graham for Meehan.

Team that played yesterday. all 6 forwards have played Co Senior or under age football, i don't really get that not playing the best team, Gaels have the strongest panel in the County,

No doubt Dunne would have been starting if they thought he was fully fit, obviously not

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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

The Gaels never played their best 15 any time throughout the Championship. When they ran at pace they caused problems. The first minute in the final when Murray ran straight through the middle of the defence James Farrelly pulled of  a great save been an example.  I was talking to a Lacken player after the drawn march and he couldn't believe Maloney -Derham,Johnston,Dunne didn't start.
Not knowing your best 15 players does give the team confidence. They struggled by slowing down the ball and allowed teams to get 13 men behind the ball when they should have run and moved the ball at pace. I have always admired Mickey Lyng as a footballer but yesterday again he slowed everything down looking for the perfect pass. Nearly every free kick he took went backwards. The Gaels supporters in the stand were shouting in frustration. When they moved at speed they won a lot of frees for been taken down- Maloney Derham in the first half yesterday was going through on goal and was pulled down by the last man!

Johnston didn't start any game in the chamionship up to te Semi final so was no surprise he didn't start against Lacken. Also Martin Dunne missed practically all of the championship, again no surprise he didnt start against Lacken

Cavan Gaels: M Cassidy, N Gurhy, J Fortune, N Murray (0-01), B Fortune, E Reilly, L Murphy, D Reilly, R Maloney Derham, D Meehan (0-01, f), M Lyng, D Graham, S Johnston (0-06, 5f), V Coyle, C McClary. Subs: M Dunne for McClary, N Smith for Coyle, P Graham (0-1) for D Graham, A Graham for Meehan.

Team that played yesterday. all 6 forwards have played Co Senior or under age football, i don't really get that not playing the best team, Gaels have the strongest panel in the County,

No doubt Dunne would have been starting if they thought he was fully fit, obviously not


Point is he should have started against Lacken. If he is fir enough to be on bench then he is fit enough to play as he showed when he came on. Same with Dunne yesterday he played a full game two weeks earlier against Lacken scoring 4-5 so he was fit . Paul O Connor on the bench barely used in the championship,Kevin Meehan  very good against Lacken two weeks ago not used. Maloney needs a partner in midfield and this has been ignored all year which is causing all sorts of problems with kickouts. This was the biggest cause for them losing yesterday.

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There is still a difference in making an impact from the bench and being fully fit to start.Same way as Cian Mackey came on against Armagh in the championship this year, he made an impact but cleary not fully fit and not being fully fit since.

Paul O Connor was starting for the Gaels in champioship, but got injured 10 minutes into the drawn Quarter final with Lacken and missed the rest of the championship.

Dunne probaly should have started, getting 4-5 is a big tally, but maybe it wasn't enough, a league game in Cavan still a difference to Ulster Club.

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There is still a difference in making an impact from the bench and being fully fit to start.Same way as Cian Mackey came on against Armagh in the championship this year, he made an impact but cleary not fully fit and not being fully fit since.

Paul O Connor was starting for the Gaels in champioship, but got injured 10 minutes into the drawn Quarter final with Lacken and missed the rest of the championship.

Dunne probaly should have started, getting 4-5 is a big tally, but maybe it wasn't enough, a league game in Cavan still a difference to Ulster Club.


Paul O Connor wasn't started in the championship he was on the bench for the Gowna game. He only came on in the second half. He wasn't injured or coming back from injury either just not picked.

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Fair enough, but that was just the 1 game. He started against Lacken and missed the rest though injury, I watched him against Louth and Longford in the Leinster Junior and he was poor to be honest.  That would have been around the time of the Gowna game
He had a good game in the first round against Wexord.

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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

He can't buy an Ulster with his wages!  There is always an excuse when the Gaels go out in Ulster, ref robbed us, manager hasnt a clue, etc. We just have to accept that Cavan club football isnt at a very higher standard when compared to the rest of Ulster, and the Gaels just arent good enough to win it, lord knows they have had enough chances at it in the last ten years.

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Of course he can't, I never said they were good enough to win Ulster this year either.. or any year for that matter

Reality check for Cavan football with all the teams making early exits.

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Bank of Ireland Dr. McKenna Cup
All Sunday games at 2.00 p.m.: All midweek games at 7.30 p.m.
(Extra time to be played in Semi finals & Final)
Section A:     UUJ, An Dún, An Cabhán & Muineachán   
Section B:     QUB, Fear Manach, Dún na nGall & Doire   
Section C:     Naomh Mhuire, Ard Mhacha, Aontroim & Tír Eoghain   

4th Jan (Sun):  Round 1: Group A
Muineachán v UUJ at Clones
An Dún v An Cabhán at Pairc Esler
Group B
Fear Manach v QUB at Brewster Park
Doire v Dún na nGall at Celtic Park
Group C     
Ard Mhacha v Tír Eoghain at Athletic Grounds
Aontroim v Naomh Mhuire at Creggan

11th Jan (Sun): Round 2: Group A   
An Cabhán v UUJ at Kingspan Breffni Park
Muineachán v An Dún at Clones
Group B
Dún na nGall v QUB at Pairc MacCumhaill
Fear Manach v Doire at Brewster Park
Group C     
Aontroim v Ard Mhacha at Creggan
Tír Eoghain v Naomh Mhuire at Healy Park

14th Jan (Wed): Round 3: Group A    
An Dún v UUJ at Pairc Esler
An Cabhán v Muineachán at Kingspan Breffni Park
Group B   
Doire v QUB at Celtic Park
Dún na nGall v Fear Manach at Pairc MacCumhaill
Group C         
Tír Eoghain v Aontroim at Healy Park
Ard Mhacha v Naomh Mhuire at Athletic Grounds

18th Jan (Sun): Semi Finals:
(1)     Group A Winner v Group B Winner
(2)     Group C Winner v Best Runner Up

24th Jan (Sat): Final:  1 v 2
N.B.   All Fixtures potentially should be considered as floodlit games.

[Westside]

So Givney may not play this year. Could be a blessing in disguise for us.

[mylestheslasher]

Some on Hoganstand (I know I know, believe nothing you read there) are saying Johnson is back on the panel. I hope thats not true, dont think i could watch him in a Cavan jersey. Givney might need a rest, he was very poor last year and went backwards but will he improve in the future I am not so sure.

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Been told by someone in the know that SJ wont be back and as well as Givney gone so is Kevin Tierney and Alan Clarke!