Was it worth shifting the all Ireland finals back 2 weeks ?

Started by seafoid, October 29, 2018, 10:58:04 AM

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seafoid

There are still county finals being played in late October.   
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

DuffleKing


The problem lies with counties not starting their championships in time. FFS the Wicklow football final was Sat and they must have been the first county out of the All Ireland?

thewobbler

It will always be the case until the provincial club championships are also moved forward in the calendar. Would make no sense to have your county champions sitting on their holes for a month.






Duine Eile

Quote from: thewobbler on October 29, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
It will always be the case until the provincial club championships are also moved forward in the calendar. Would make no sense to have your county champions sitting on their holes for a month.

Was just about to say the same, why would you finish up your club championship in August/September to be left waiting until late October or early November for your next game? Lack of joined up thinking as usual.

Milltown Row2

That will be next, though it should have happened at the same time, county boards take longer to change things
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Walt Jabsco

I attended the USHC Club semi yesterday and was remarking that the finals in all three grades in previous years used to be held on the last Sunday of October with the football club provincial series starting on the first Sunday in November. So the Ulster Council have put back the fixture dates by two weeks making the situation more of a problem with the finals now on November 11th. They haven't changed the schedule for the football IF or SFC only the JFC to allow the "twining" final on 8/9th December. Is this concept devised to eliminate an AIQF with the British champions?   

joemamas

Quote from: DuffleKing on October 29, 2018, 11:42:34 AM

The problem lies with counties not starting their championships in time. FFS the Wicklow football final was Sat and they must have been the first county out of the All Ireland?

+1, it is a total crock of sh*t.
Then, instead of pointing the finger at the Wicklow county board, the CPA cite something about April and player health. FFS.
What will be next? Croke Park needs to give them grant or research money like the GPA, you hear shag all from the latter any more.

seafoid

The GAA had an exclusive shop window in September and gave it up for what ?
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trailer

CPA seem to be failing here. Haven't seen them gain any traction or do anything of note other than their launch.
As someone said above Wicklow an example of a county that exited early yet their championship is only finished. Antrim, Armagh, a few other examples. But why have your championship decided early and then wait idly for an opponent? Would the leagues in these counties be finished? And if not, why not?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trailer on October 29, 2018, 02:01:51 PM
CPA seem to be failing here. Haven't seen them gain any traction or do anything of note other than their launch.
As someone said above Wicklow an example of a county that exited early yet their championship is only finished. Antrim, Armagh, a few other examples. But why have your championship decided early and then wait idly for an opponent? Would the leagues in these counties be finished? And if not, why not?

Leagues finished in Antrim now, some games that have been moved as such will finish off over the next couple of weeks, but nothing other than dead rubber games..

Its up to the counties to arrange the fixtures at the start of the year to tie in with the Ulster competitions, no county is going to allow their club champions to sit on their hands for a month, so arrange the fixtures to suit that..

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

johnnycool

Interesting comments coming out of Kilkenny in recent weeks with lads once gracing the field at IC level bemoaning the lack of club games now that they're not involved.

IMO that is the one negative of having the hurling in the round robin format that in counties like Kilkenny where club games were played during the old format 3/4 week gaps in the IC calendar that they now aren't able to do that being out 4 Sundays in 6 weeks.

WRT to Wicklow, unless there were a load of draws or appeals like in Galway the last few years then that doesn't make sense.

I'm sure whoever was doing their fixture planning took the date that their clubs were to enter the Leinster Club championship and pencil in the final with a two week gap prior to that. If they didn't then they need to start doing that.

Owenmoresider

Quote from: johnnycool on October 29, 2018, 04:42:34 PM
Interesting comments coming out of Kilkenny in recent weeks with lads once gracing the field at IC level bemoaning the lack of club games now that they're not involved.

IMO that is the one negative of having the hurling in the round robin format that in counties like Kilkenny where club games were played during the old format 3/4 week gaps in the IC calendar that they now aren't able to do that being out 4 Sundays in 6 weeks.

WRT to Wicklow, unless there were a load of draws or appeals like in Galway the last few years then that doesn't make sense.

I'm sure whoever was doing their fixture planning took the date that their clubs were to enter the Leinster Club championship and pencil in the final with a two week gap prior to that. If they didn't then they need to start doing that.
The problem was that they couldn't play the replay last weekend as Glenealy were playing in the county hurling final. They draw a number of players from Rathnew who were in the football final as well.

five points

#12
The CPA are a nothing organisation - just a few guys with a website where 2,000 or 3,000 people have registered "support". Why they should be listened to over any barstool randomer escapes me.

October is the best time of year for county finals.

The All Irelands should be on the traditional dates in September.

magpie seanie

Quote from: Duine Eile on October 29, 2018, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 29, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
It will always be the case until the provincial club championships are also moved forward in the calendar. Would make no sense to have your county champions sitting on their holes for a month.

Was just about to say the same, why would you finish up your club championship in August/September to be left waiting until late October or early November for your next game? Lack of joined up thinking as usual.

Yes - thewobbler hit the nail on the head there. It's a difficult balancing act though as replays and other factors can blow the best laid plans apart. The measures brought in this season were iffy in their impact but at least we some sort of action. What really is needed though is a complete overhaul....one or two little amendments won't cut it.

I think the CPA are having an impact to be honest. I just believe shouting it from a megaphone is not their preferred modus operandi. All they want is to sort out the fixtures and disappear....they're not looking to make a livelyhood out of it.

Rossfan

The April club only thing originated with them if I recall rightly.
Bits of tweaks here and there not the best way to go sorting it out.
However if you try for one big overall new system probably take years to agree something and maybe as long again to implement.
However everyone is giving out but like the Health Service I don't see too many coming up with workable proposals.
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