Brexit.

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Therealdonald

Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

BennyCake

Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

Therealdonald

Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

What is the hangup about the abstentionism? All SF voters realise when they vote for their MP's that they won't be represented. Look at Corbyn's treatment about being anti-Semite or zionist. Now imagine what'd be said to the SF representatives especially on Brexit. Their voices wouldn't make a difference in Westminster, as the DUP's evidently doesn't either.

trailer

Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

What is the hangup about the abstentionism? All SF voters realise when they vote for their MP's that they won't be represented. Look at Corbyn's treatment about being anti-Semite or zionist. Now imagine what'd be said to the SF representatives especially on Brexit. Their voices wouldn't make a difference in Westminster, as the DUP's evidently doesn't either.

You realise the DUP are keeping the the Tory Government in power?
SF are pro Brexit. They want an extremely hard Brexit. They are prepared to sacrifice business, prosperity, growth etc for a UI or at worse complete chaos in NI. They will keep their coffers topped up with racketeering and illegal smuggling.

RedHand88

#4879
Quote from: trailer on November 12, 2018, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

What is the hangup about the abstentionism? All SF voters realise when they vote for their MP's that they won't be represented. Look at Corbyn's treatment about being anti-Semite or zionist. Now imagine what'd be said to the SF representatives especially on Brexit. Their voices wouldn't make a difference in Westminster, as the DUP's evidently doesn't either.

You realise the DUP are keeping the the Tory Government in power?
SF are pro Brexit. They want an extremely hard Brexit. They are prepared to sacrifice business, prosperity, growth etc for a UI or at worse complete chaos in NI. They will keep their coffers topped up with racketeering and illegal smuggling.

?????????


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/sinn-fein-campaigning-vigorously-for-remain-vote-in-referendum-34770636.html

Stop embarrassing yourself. All you do here is shout Sinn Féin down all the live long day. Clear to see you've a chip on your shoulder. Are you an SDLP activist?

Minder

Ah come on now they weren't campaigning anything close to "vigorously", they were totally ambivalent
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Therealdonald

Quote from: trailer on November 12, 2018, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

What is the hangup about the abstentionism? All SF voters realise when they vote for their MP's that they won't be represented. Look at Corbyn's treatment about being anti-Semite or zionist. Now imagine what'd be said to the SF representatives especially on Brexit. Their voices wouldn't make a difference in Westminster, as the DUP's evidently doesn't either.

You realise the DUP are keeping the the Tory Government in power?
SF are pro Brexit. They want an extremely hard Brexit. They are prepared to sacrifice business, prosperity, growth etc for a UI or at worse complete chaos in NI. They will keep their coffers topped up with racketeering and illegal smuggling.

Keeping them in power for how long? The leaked letter shows exactly how worried the Tories are about the DUP.

Don't understand how SF are involved in racketeering and illegal smuggling????

marty34

Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

SF want to break the link with England....not keep it going. Goes  against what they are about.

Rossfan

Is there legal smuggling????
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

heganboy

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

BennyCake

#4885
Quote from: marty34 on November 12, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 12, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 12, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

Thankfully they are not in Westminster.

Imagine them on the floor of Westminster criticising the Brexit process and trying to frustrate any decision making. The pro Brexit red top English papers like the Sun the Daily Mail and the Express would have a field day given their old connections with the IRA. It would only add to the little Englander mentality and harden attitudes even more over there. The best thing they can do is stay completely out of the process and watch it all unravel.

That's it in a nutshell. Be part of the process inside Westminster and become the bad guys, or stay out of it and watch the world burn.

There'll always be a little Englander mentality. Surely they could call the tories/DUP out on their antics, and if they're so concerned about lgbt or Irish language, then go and highlight them where they can affect it most. Make their voices heard.

SF want to break the link with England....not keep it going. Goes  against what they are about.

Northern Ireland and the Stormont assembly is British manufactured. It also recognises partition (and NI as part of the UK). Why do SF participate in that (well, did)?

imtommygunn

a suspicious mind might say to line their pockets...

weareros


armaghniac

Joint RTÉ BBC programme now, with lots of people speaking over each other.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Tony Baloney

Quote from: armaghniac on November 12, 2018, 10:52:42 PM
Joint RTÉ BBC programme now, with lots of people speaking over each other.
Nolan. Say no more.