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#1
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 31, 2022, 08:10:49 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 31, 2022, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 31, 2022, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 31, 2022, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 31, 2022, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 30, 2022, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: DuffGael on October 30, 2022, 02:11:15 PM
If we could get 7 of the bigger clubs to put in a B team to a Div5 it might work. Top 13 would not be enough though. It would need to be 20 at least.


The problem here isn't about whether this is a practical solution. it's a cultural problem.

Getting a group of players, administrators and spectators to go "away" on a Friday night when the first team are at home would take some getting used to. It would require riding out some bad times for a year or two before it becomes normalised. And I don't think people in this era have the patience to ride it out.

Outsider buttin' in here, in Tyrone All-County Football League games involving thirds teams are played on a Saturday afternoon unless their corresponding first team isn't playing that same weekend where instead they play at the same time as all other fixtures in their division/grade. Rarely do such clubs have their first & third teams playing at the same time.

How many of the senior panels caanot play thirds?

Unlike in Down, reserve football is tied to first team performance in Tyrone. Senior & Reserve games are played as double headers i.e. such fixtures on Sundays are/were 2.15pm reserve & 3.45pm senior.

To enter a thirds team in the Tyrone ACFL, you must...

* Declare a panel of 40 players whom are only permitted to play in your first team or reserve team (this list of 40 also includes 12 players whom aren't allowed to play in their reserve or "second" team, assuming these teams play in Division 1 & Division 1 reserve)

* If you also wish to enter a fourth team that is your corresponding reserve team for for thirds team i.e "thirds reserves", you must also declare additional players that can't play for this team (this depends on the Division you play in - in Division 3 it's 9 players, Division 2 it's 10. Since no thirds team in recent history in Tyrone has played in Division 2, it's essentially nine players).

* If a player from outside the initial list of 40 players mentioned above plays for the first team or their corresponding reserve/"second" team, they are no longer eligible to play for the thirds or thirds reserve/"fourth" team(s) for the remainder of that playing year.

* If a player on the list of 40 players mentioned above has not played for either the first team or reserves/"seconds" before 1st July of the competition year, they may be allowed to regrade to play in the thirds or thirds reserves/"fourth" team(s) with permission from the Tyrone CCC.

40 players in a lot greater than 23, very interesting and I dont think many clubs could do that
[Sounds like a good idea, might cut down the amount of conceded game in reserve leagues]
#2
General discussion / Re: Death Notices
May 16, 2022, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on May 15, 2022, 11:53:16 PM
Willie Loughrey AKA Rock Stewart. Great local entertainer in 80s

Remember great nights in the Glenavon Hotel in the 80's. Summer of 69 was the big song
#3
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
November 06, 2021, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 06, 2021, 07:54:11 PM
Anyone who believes in the importance/significance/mystical power of a fictional line across our county should be beaten over the head, very hard and very often, with a very solid spade.

100% agree the East Down / South Down thing is nonsense. The sooner the divisional boards / committees are dismantled the better as it only perpetuates division. Surely an all county youth committee could run go games and U13 Leagues. From my experience the other underage leagues U15 and U17 have benefited from going all county.
#4
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
September 14, 2021, 11:04:09 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 14, 2021, 10:04:31 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 14, 2021, 05:22:41 PM
So in summary, according to you, the county board which is currently:

1. Not scheduling double headers.

2. Avoiding taking payments at the gate, in favour of losing a cut on every ticket to Stripe and the App producer.

3. Charging reduced prices.

Are only doing all this because they're batshit crazy bastards who don't understand capacity regulations in the six counties.

Makes perfect sense.

——

Hit me with "that's for double headers" all you like. Prior to Covid you'd have paid more than £5 into any SFC game going back 10 years - whether you wanted to watch 1 game, 1.5 games or 2.

There is actually a per adult cost saving going on. Don't try to pretend otherwise. The maths behind it is primary one stuff.

There is no cost saving going on at all, either you are on the CB or very stupid. The CB have had a disaster and if you can't see the anger on social media from the decision to charge u16s you don't belong in the GAA. You just ignored my point where I proved you wrong about the double header you said it doesn't matter if you wanted to watch 1 game it was still £10.. it was £10 for 2 matches just because you've no interest in the match before doesn't mean it was £10 for 1 match.

Also the buck stupid decision to schedule SHC and SFC match's for Bredagh 24 hours apart is another example of how incompetent they are.

Not the first time that has happened just ask Liatroim
#5
Quote from: weareros on May 06, 2021, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 06, 2021, 09:19:49 PM
Well, well, well - Eoghan Harris has got the boot from the Sindo rag because of some twitter account he was involved in.
Im off to read what he was tweeting!

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1390400039089016838?s=19

Imagine getting fired for masquerading as an auld wan called Babs sending anti-Sinn Fein tweets on Twitter after spending half your life getting paid to write anti-Sinn Fein diatribes on the Indo. Two sets of dunces.
Stickie sacked from Blue Shirt paper, well I never!
#6
General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
March 24, 2021, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2021, 05:54:23 PM
I blame the caddie

So do I. That might be the change he needs but may be the hardest call to make. How do you sack your best mate
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
March 24, 2021, 12:11:27 AM
Quote from: thebar on March 23, 2021, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 23, 2021, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 23, 2021, 12:42:35 PM
Has anyone read Paul Higgins's tweet to him. It's absolutely hilarious lol.

https://twitter.com/PaulHig09978621/status/1374314317080895488
Who is Paul Higgins ?
Now now Jim that man has a couple of All Ireland medals in his back pocket!

One more than Joe
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Congress
March 12, 2021, 07:16:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 11, 2021, 08:06:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2021, 04:11:07 PM
And even less discussion on the GAA "freezing" the loss of earnings part of GAA players insurance.

Self employed lads will need their own insurance now, but I'd recommend it for all

The injury scheme is rubbish for self employed, even when wages were included. You had to have certified accounts to get wages paid. How many young fellas would have that ? 
No physio appointments before an operation, It basically pays for operations. Yet it lost €2 million a year. Too many ripping it

Good to see loss of wages removed from the scheme. A lot were ripping the arse out of it. Perhaps they will pay out more for operations. ACL operation is about £6k but scheme pays out €4.5k and no physio
#9
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
March 06, 2021, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on March 05, 2021, 08:01:33 PM
Part of me always knew the NHS workers were never getting much of a payrise, but 1%. Why do these politicians do this to themselves.

They would have been safer just saying your getting nothing than 1%.

It's a toe in the water job, try 1% tell them money is tight and see how it goes. If there's not much opposition quids in, if there is play hardball and eventually end up at 2.5%
#10
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
February 27, 2021, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 27, 2021, 08:47:21 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 27, 2021, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 27, 2021, 04:07:41 PM
The far right are making fools of themselves in Dublin again

Their self-entitlement is off the scale

That was a fairly big crowd in Dublin today. They can't all be Far Right?
RTE reported that the protest crowd was from a wide mix of political shades.
The mystery is how did the RUC end up there policing?

Going out on a limb here. Drew Harris?
#11
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 07, 2021, 08:39:19 PM
Quote from: yewtree on February 07, 2021, 07:12:43 PM
Just about to buy club draw tickets £120 Co Board draw, has got me thinking about fundraising within the county.
Somebody mentioned Club Down also fund raises. Was looking into it ,what is it about ? I see a twitter account that is only tweeting about camogie mostly? Says on twitter it is a fundraising body for Official Down GAA but doesn't mention it is fundraising for Down Camogie Board or Ladies Board.
Any posters here give more info.

Buy a Clubs Draw Ticket. Club Down all but dead and gone. As certain '91 star was being paid £25k a year by Club Down to fund raise. Don't think he raised 25 quid!
#12
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 23, 2021, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: Caitlin on January 23, 2021, 06:44:44 PM
Mayobridge must be hot favourites to knock Kilcoo off their perch.
In the Irish Life 'Every Step Counts' Walking Challenge their top three performers have done over 1200km between them in 10 days- that's a marathon a day- yet they're not even first team players.
The club has clocked up nearly 20.000 km,, more than twice the team in second place. Some going

Some going my a**e. You don't even need to walk or run, you can enter the distance "walked" manually. Say no more
#13
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 09, 2021, 08:27:37 PM
Should make the County Board on Thursday week fun
#14
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
December 30, 2020, 10:17:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 30, 2020, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 30, 2020, 05:22:31 PM
NI had highest ever number of cases today,very unlikely with those timelines that source was schools
There is definitely a political agenda on the schools

I am not sold that there is. If this is rife then schools have a lot of scope to spread it round. Also schools stopped when? Last week?  Don't get me wrong I think less lockdown is the big contributor here (plus look at any other country locally and the numbers are rife so something like new variant or something else must be at play).

I wouldn't want to see schools shut but I don't think it can be ruled out that they are either a factor or could in future be a factor.

Of course there is a political agenda. Just ask any teacher or indeed pupil how many Covid cases they have had in post primary schools, it's crazy. Talking to teacher yesterday and she was telling me out of 64 in her GCSE year all but 15 had confirmed cases since September. If these numbers were in an office workplace it would be closed and everyone working from home. My view is every time we go into lockdown or severe limiting restrictions schools should close.
#15
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
October 30, 2020, 12:00:46 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 29, 2020, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on October 29, 2020, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on October 29, 2020, 09:14:48 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-54731262

There is a lot in this. Seems somewhat strange it's been recorded as a Covid case.
Definitely appears very strange that they would record it as a covid case if he had no symptoms and was negative when he passed away. Very sad whatever the cause.

After reading the case above you have to wonder about the other story BBC NI were running today that Altnagelvin might need to ration oxygen. Maybe this should be in the "what the f**k" section

If you test positive in the last 28 days of life you count. Its to take account of those who catch it and never really get better.