Ulster Club SFC 2024

Started by general_lee, September 16, 2024, 11:37:31 AM

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thebigfullforward

Quote from: general_lee on September 19, 2024, 09:23:25 AMAlways good to see a bit of Tyrone-bashing. They love this pushing the myth that they've the best championship in Ireland, anyone can beat anyone - in reality half the teams are nowhere near contenders:
Ardboe, Clonoe, Coalisland, Donaghmore, Edendork, Eglish, Galbally, Omagh.
Lol it's two seperate things. They are capable of beating anyone and have shown that in previous years. That doesn't mean they will go on and win it. Look at last year. Nobody expected Edendork to win championship but they were able to take the previous years finalists out of the equation and this happens all the time in Tyrone. An underdog out performs a team more than capable of winning the championship and that's their season done. People are right to say anyone can beat anyone because all it takes is an off day for a big team to be put out. The structure doesn't favour the big teams by giving them chances to stay in contention after being beat

tiempo

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on September 19, 2024, 09:09:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2024, 08:50:49 AMSo when the best of the rest knockout the the Tyrone champions year on year, they wouldn't win a Tyrone Championship.

I'm not sure now if this is a joke or serious every year since the 70's  ;D 

Love this conversation, strictly cause it annoys the Tyronies. 

The only logical thing to do to settle this debate is to add the Ulster champions into the Tyrone championship the following year.  This is clearly the next step up in terms of competition in Ulster. 

This makes complete sense

May we also agree that Carrickmore is the best venue for a club championship game in the whole of Love Ulster

general_lee

Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 19, 2024, 09:34:10 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 19, 2024, 09:23:25 AMAlways good to see a bit of Tyrone-bashing. They love this pushing the myth that they've the best championship in Ireland, anyone can beat anyone - in reality half the teams are nowhere near contenders:
Ardboe, Clonoe, Coalisland, Donaghmore, Edendork, Eglish, Galbally, Omagh.
Lol it's two seperate things. They are capable of beating anyone and have shown that in previous years. That doesn't mean they will go on and win it. Look at last year. Nobody expected Edendork to win championship but they were able to take the previous years finalists out of the equation and this happens all the time in Tyrone. An underdog out performs a team more than capable of winning the championship and that's their season done. People are right to say anyone can beat anyone because all it takes is an off day for a big team to be put out. The structure doesn't favour the big teams by giving them chances to stay in contention after being beat
It's happens all the time in all championships! The Armagh SFC has had 8 different finalists in the past ten years. So has the Tyrone SFC.

03,05,08

Other championships with group stages/ backdoors favour the big teams as they are able to rest players, have games that aren't at full championship pace and are able to prime themselves for the latter stages of championship. For Tyrone you usually have 5-4 hectic games on the back end of 15 league games which are taken seriously as league and championship are linked. Add in the fact that because no one does back to backs teams usually celebrate their championship win without too much of an eye on ulster. That being said Tyrone teams record in senior ulster is abysmal.

ONeill

I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

JoG2

Quote from: 03,05,08 on September 21, 2024, 10:27:16 AMOther championships with group stages/ backdoors favour the big teams as they are able to rest players, have games that aren't at full championship pace and are able to prime themselves for the latter stages of championship. For Tyrone you usually have 5-4 hectic games on the back end of 15 league games which are taken seriously as league and championship are linked. Add in the fact that because no one does back to backs teams usually celebrate their championship win without too much of an eye on ulster. That being said Tyrone teams record in senior ulster is abysmal.

4 hectic 60 mins every 2 weeks, how do they do it?

general_lee

Quote from: JoG2 on September 21, 2024, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on September 21, 2024, 10:27:16 AMOther championships with group stages/ backdoors favour the big teams as they are able to rest players, have games that aren't at full championship pace and are able to prime themselves for the latter stages of championship. For Tyrone you usually have 5-4 hectic games on the back end of 15 league games which are taken seriously as league and championship are linked. Add in the fact that because no one does back to backs teams usually celebrate their championship win without too much of an eye on ulster. That being said Tyrone teams record in senior ulster is abysmal.

4 hectic 60 mins every 2 weeks, how do they do it?
Lol. Imagine being Trillick and having just two weeks to recover from a gruelling 8 point victory. Must take its toll.

brokencrossbar1

Since the turn of the century different winners per county in Ulster

Tyrone - 9
Fermanagh - 8
Derry - 8
Cavan - 8
Donegal - 7
Monaghan - 6
Armagh - 5
Down - 5
Antrim - 4

During the same period wins in Ulster

Derry - 9
Armagh - 8
Down - 2
Antrim - 2
Donegal - 1
Tyrone - 1

That's the break up. Tyrone hardly streaking away with being more competitive and being the 'hardest' to win but let them have it.

ONeill

Everyone loves talking about Tyrone, even more than we do. We're just class.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

quit yo jibbajabba

"ok ok maybe it's not the best Cship but they still talk about us the most so we still win"

armaghniac

Quote from: ONeill on September 21, 2024, 03:45:18 PMEveryone loves talking about Tyrone, even more than we do. We're just class.

In the same way as people talk about Russia.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Rebel84

Plenty of drama and last gasp goals last night and today it's the best for entertainment anyways

Truthsayer

#57
Quote from: armaghniac on September 21, 2024, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 21, 2024, 03:45:18 PMEveryone loves talking about Tyrone, even more than we do. We're just class.

In the same way as people talk about Russia.
Russia haven't won 4 Sam Maguires 🤷

square_ball

#58
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 21, 2024, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 21, 2024, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 21, 2024, 03:45:18 PMEveryone loves talking about Tyrone, even more than we do. We're just class.

In the same way as people talk about Russia.
Russia haven't won 4 Sam Maguires 🤷

To paraphrase the legend Micheal - Putin was a great man but he couldn't kick points like Peter Canavan.

J70

Eunans over Naomh Conaill by a point.

10-9

Was 7-3 to Eunans at the half.