The SDLP

Started by ardmhachaabu, April 23, 2010, 09:32:25 PM

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seafoid

I think the original point was that the SDLP's position on unity is better.

Rüdiger Dornbusch, a US-based German economist, said : "The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.

Applesisapples

Quote from: Caitlin on March 16, 2024, 09:00:25 AMClaire Hanna is the most articulate and effective politician in the six counties. Far from being tied in knors I thought she was clear on The View. She put manners on Jim Alister a few weeks ago and has been principled and consistent over Gaza. Of course she is seeking to maximise her vote in South Belfast- what would you expect?
She made no sense and could not refute Feeney's argument, even Mark Caruthers said as much when pressing her. No doubt she is the best the SDLP have to offer.

dec

Colum Eastwood to step down as SDLP leader

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/exclusive-colum-eastwood-to-step-down-as-sdlp-leader-FZRWQBAFWFEPND4RXTKY2DM5XM/

Colum Eastwood is set to announce that he is stepping down as leader of the SDLP.
The Irish News understands that the Foyle MP will announce his departure from the role he has held for the past nine years at a press conference in Derry on Thursday.
His resignation comes just eight weeks after he retained his Westminster seat with a reduced majority of 4,166.
While the party also retained its seat in South Belfast & Mid Down, the overall general election result was regarded as disappointing for the SDLP, which lost substantial ground in South Down and Upper Bann.
Mr Eastwood, who succeeded Alasdair McDonnell as SDLP leader in 2015 following an acrimonious leadership contest, will remain as an MP.

clarshack

Doug Beattie quits and now Colum Eastwood. Something is up?

armaghniac

Thanks very much, Mr Eastwood.
With TV Mike the only candidate for UU, you will not have vote Mike and get Colm this time.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

weareros

#1475
Probably the one man band TUV relegating SDLP to 6th in latest opinion poll was end for Colum. Wasn't making any headway in support even when the only party doing the right thing - ie boycotting Genocide Joe and the Saint Paddy's cringefest at White House.

93-DY-SAM

How long before we see Colum sitting in the Lords - under protest of course.

Colum has proven beyond all doubt that sitting in Westminster is pissing into the wind for any Nationalist party. Complete waste of time.

Sportacus

He looks like a fella that needs a break.  He always came across as very frustrated. I assume Claire Hanna will be the favourite now.  O'Toole won't stand in her way.  McNulty loves himself but has probably burned bridges with the football thing. Patsy McGlone was a candidate before, not sure if he'd bother now. 
It'll hardly matter anyway.  Nationalists are voting for SF to put manners on the DUP, and they like Michelle.

JoG2

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 29, 2024, 07:36:43 AMHow long before we see Colum sitting in the Lords - under protest of course.

Colum has proven beyond all doubt that sitting in Westminster is pissing into the wind for any Nationalist party. Complete waste of time.

Can't see it, he's busy outside of politics with his business interests.
I often wonder how the talks / appeasment will go with the unionists / loyalists re a united Ireland when you see the nationalists and republicans bickering among themselves like wains (stoops v shinnerbots). Should be quare craic

imtommygunn

I thought he was a terrible leader and I'm hoping someone can make a go of the party now. Always thought they were going nowhere under him.


LoughNeagh

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 29, 2024, 09:07:03 AMI thought he was a terrible leader and I'm hoping someone can make a go of the party now. Always thought they were going nowhere under him.



Horrible leader. His early tactics to attack, attack, attack Sinn Fein was so off putting.

I personally refused to give them any transfers.
View from the lough!

seafoid

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 29, 2024, 07:36:43 AMHow long before we see Colum sitting in the Lords - under protest of course.

Colum has proven beyond all doubt that sitting in Westminster is pissing into the wind for any Nationalist party. Complete waste of time.
The A5 and Casement are 2 issues which are important to the people and over which SF has no leverage. Plaid Cymru ans the SNP bith take their seats. SF is an outlier.

Rossfan

And what exactly did the PC and SNP MPs achieve by joining the 550 English MPs in Westminster?
The SNP had 55 out of 59 Scottish seats at one stage and still ignored.

The Nationalist Community in the 6 Cos need an alternative for those of them who wont/can't vote SF.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Snapchap

They're going nowhere regardless. A busted flush.

Brian Feeney wrote a column last week where he referenced the turnover of leaders since Hume. Little did he/we know then that a week later, another leader would bite the dust. The parallels with the UUP are striking in that regard. Two parties dwarfed by a bigger party, with no identity, no raison d'être beyond "we're not the DUP/SF" (delete as appropriate). Claire Hannah is set to be their fifth leader since Hume, with Nesbitt set to be the 7th UUP leader since Trimble. What does that tell you about the reality inside both parties?

What have been the big plays for the SDLP in recent years? Two that I can think of: a pact with FF, and the setting up for the 'New Ireland Commission'. Both announced to much fanfare. So what of them? The former proved itself to be disastrous and was swiftly put out of its misery, the later appears to exist in name only.

Feeney's column referenced Claire Hanna's recent appearance on the BBC Red Lines podcast, where she admitted that despite standing candidates in all 18 constituencies in the general election, they only campaigned in three. The only possible reasons he came up with for that were so that they could maintain notions of grandeur/being a big player and/or to try to maintain their vote share. End result, their vote share dropped yet again, by 3.8%, and the only two MPs they got elected, as Feeney pointed out, were elected "not because they're SDLP but for specific reasons: in Foyle with unionist support to keep SF out and in South Belfast because Hanna is neither SF nor DUP."

And as for their soon-to-be leader? A woman who so loathed FF that she considered leaving the SDLP to set up her own party when the SDLP/FF pact was formed, even though she has a track record of heading south and canvassing not only for FF's real sister party FG, but also for Labour, while herself an SDLP rep. How can the SDLP be confident of what it is politically, under a new leader who doesn't seem to know what she stands for herself?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2024, 10:37:13 AMThey're going nowhere regardless. A busted flush.

Brian Feeney wrote a column last week where he referenced the turnover of leaders since Hume. Little did he/we know then that a week later, another leader would bite the dust. The parallels with the UUP are striking in that regard. Two parties dwarfed by a bigger party, with no identity, no raison d'être beyond "we're not the DUP/SF" (delete as appropriate). Claire Hannah is set to be their fifth leader since Hume, with Nesbitt set to be the 7th UUP leader since Trimble. What does that tell you about the reality inside both parties?

What have been the big plays for the SDLP in recent years? Two that I can think of: a pact with FF, and the setting up for the 'New Ireland Commission'. Both announced to much fanfare. So what of them? The former proved itself to be disastrous and was swiftly put out of its misery, the later appears to exist in name only.

Feeney's column referenced Claire Hanna's recent appearance on the BBC Red Lines podcast, where she admitted that despite standing candidates in all 18 constituencies in the general election, they only campaigned in three. The only possible reasons he came up with for that were so that they could maintain notions of grandeur/being a big player and/or to try to maintain their vote share. End result, their vote share dropped yet again, by 3.8%, and the only two MPs they got elected, as Feeney pointed out, were elected "not because they're SDLP but for specific reasons: in Foyle with unionist support to keep SF out and in South Belfast because Hanna is neither SF nor DUP."

And as for their soon-to-be leader? A woman who so loathed FF that she considered leaving the SDLP to set up her own party when the SDLP/FF pact was formed, even though she has a track record of heading south and canvassing not only for FF's real sister party FG, but also for Labour, while herself an SDLP rep. How can the SDLP be confident of what it is politically, under a new leader who doesn't seem to know what she stands for herself?

Is it healthy to have a nationalist opposition party or do we all go in behind SF? There's no angle here btw, just want the opinion from someone that is full on SF and to be fair, pretty tuned into the political side of things on here
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea