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#31
Quote from: David McKeown on February 20, 2025, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: weareros on February 19, 2025, 10:46:01 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 19, 2025, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 19, 2025, 12:32:51 PMI suspect with new rules, teams they don't have natural 2 point kickers won't like them, teams that don't have good fielders for contested kick outs won't like them, and teams that can't defend without pulling every player back won't like them. Those 3 rules encourage traditional skills of the game - footballers who can kick a point from distance, high fielders, one on one sticky backs. The short kickout with opposing team pulling every player back, an orgy of hand passes until a team found a low risk opportunity, like a punch over the bar, had become unwatchable. I'm good with the rules so far.

True but it's at the expense of other traditional skills. Like the 50 which must be from the ground, at an angle and only worth half of a kick from 20-25% closer. Or one on one defending from a corner back close to goal. For example.
Not sure I follow David. A good corner back is more essential now because the skillful corner forward isn't bollocksed chasing up and down the field, and we are back to what forwards were once told by trainers: his job is to mark you, not you to mark him. It's much harder defend under new rules, and on top of that if the forward catches a mark close to goal, he can do for goal, knowing he's still getting the tap over mark. So back has still more defending to do. The system defending of everyone back is gone under new rules and good man markers can shine in one on one battles, and poor backs will get skinned by forwards with more space and fresher legs.

I disagree the advantage rules denigrate the art of defending. No longer is there any utility to skilfully dispossessing an opponent or tactically allowing him a catch in order to ground defend him. Delaying and spoiling in a non card way is now the more effective way to defend if you can't prevent the mark which is the only real reward in mark situations.

In terms of high fielding the rules now encourage defending teams to flood a smaller area where they can have a numerical advantage and then break the ball to their spare man. The kicking team is having to tactically adjust to prevent that.


On your first point, it's not the new rules that have led to that situation, but the advanced mark (which I don't love). But I wish in my day, the corner back would have let me catch the ball first, instead of beating me to it to yelps and cheers. On the plus side, the advanced mark encourages longer kick pass into the forwards. The more teams get better at kicking, the better for the game. It's the same with the coaches complaining about tiring from running. Learn to be better kickers of the ball.
Regarding high fielding, teams can always flood an area - Tyrone were doing that effectively in league last year. But in games so far, I've seen some marvelous catches and even if the ball is broken, the scramble to get the breaking ball is a lot more interesting than the short kickout as a team then labours up the pitch passing it around waiting patiently for an opening. That was mind-numbingly boring to watch, and was killing the game as a spectacle. Teams can of course still hold onto the ball, but they've lost an outlet in passing it back to the goalie in their own half. That has introduced jeopardy into the possession game - a good thing, too. Have enjoyed seeing some desperate kick clearances.
#32
General discussion / Re: Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022
February 20, 2025, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 20, 2025, 12:44:35 PMOn the plus side Trumps cosying up to Putin is a kick in the stomach to the British that have been complicit in US war crimes for years... lapdogs

And what about all the Trump supporting Unionists who like to claim Ireland is protected from a Russian attack by the RAF. Sure Putin is now a grand lad who was only minding his own business when dictator Zelensky started a war. Any word yet from Submarine Steve.
#33
Amazed Alisson is keeping his place. Kelleher got benched by Slot for one mistake - Alisson a shadow of the keeper he used to be. Wouldn't have saved either of those late Villa chances if they were on target.
#34
Quote from: David McKeown on February 19, 2025, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 19, 2025, 12:32:51 PMI suspect with new rules, teams they don't have natural 2 point kickers won't like them, teams that don't have good fielders for contested kick outs won't like them, and teams that can't defend without pulling every player back won't like them. Those 3 rules encourage traditional skills of the game - footballers who can kick a point from distance, high fielders, one on one sticky backs. The short kickout with opposing team pulling every player back, an orgy of hand passes until a team found a low risk opportunity, like a punch over the bar, had become unwatchable. I'm good with the rules so far.

True but it's at the expense of other traditional skills. Like the 50 which must be from the ground, at an angle and only worth half of a kick from 20-25% closer. Or one on one defending from a corner back close to goal. For example.
Not sure I follow David. A good corner back is more essential now because the skillful corner forward isn't bollocksed chasing up and down the field, and we are back to what forwards were once told by trainers: his job is to mark you, not you to mark him. It's much harder defend under new rules, and on top of that if the forward catches a mark close to goal, he can do for goal, knowing he's still getting the tap over mark. So back has still more defending to do. The system defending of everyone back is gone under new rules and good man markers can shine in one on one battles, and poor backs will get skinned by forwards with more space and fresher legs.
#35
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2025
February 19, 2025, 06:47:50 PM
Our local newspaper Ros Herald is tipping Meath in this one. Much of that thinking is down to the loss of Enda Smith, Brian Stack (captain), Daire Cregg (Vice Captain) - and a few others likely to be out, Colm Neary who was outstanding in first two games, and Ronan Daly (went off injured against Monaghan). That said we have better strength in-depth than usual but that's a lot of top players out with two away games coming up to promotion contenders Meath and Cork. Meath impressed against Down, look a strong physical side and putting up big scores. Conceding plenty too so could be another high scoring Div 2 game. Odds should be closer.
#36
I suspect with new rules, teams they don't have natural 2 point kickers won't like them, teams that don't have good fielders for contested kick outs won't like them, and teams that can't defend without pulling every player back won't like them. Those 3 rules encourage traditional skills of the game - footballers who can kick a point from distance, high fielders, one on one sticky backs. The short kickout with opposing team pulling every player back, an orgy of hand passes until a team found a low risk opportunity, like a punch over the bar, had become unwatchable. I'm good with the rules so far.
#37
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025
February 15, 2025, 09:17:13 PM
Quote from: statto on February 15, 2025, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 15, 2025, 09:13:44 PMGood feature of new rules - with a wind at your backs big half time leads to opposition can be overcome. If you win a toss would you prefer it in second half now.
Would that not be the case under old rules anyway?

Sort of. But you are more likely to go for 2 pointers when you really need them in second half.
#38
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025
February 15, 2025, 09:13:44 PM
Good feature of new rules - with a wind at your backs big half time leads to opposition can be overcome. If you win a toss would you prefer it in second half now.
#39
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025
February 15, 2025, 06:35:38 PM
Great comeback by Derry. Enjoyable stuff all around.
#40
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
February 09, 2025, 07:45:26 PM
I thought Sam Prendergast had a great game. Has much swifter passing hands than previous Irish fly-halves and can fairly toss it out wide. Adds a creative dimension too with clever kicking. Then again the Scots are a poor enough outfit. The French game will tell us more.
#41
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
February 09, 2025, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 09, 2025, 04:25:14 PMTiring Irish team could do with replacements.
Nevermind. Well on top again.
#42
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
February 09, 2025, 04:25:14 PM
Tiring Irish team could do with replacements.
#43
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
February 09, 2025, 03:52:27 PM
Prendergast has sold some good dummies this week and a GAA style block down. Mind you Scots clearances have been blocked 3 times so far.
#44
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on February 08, 2025, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 08, 2025, 09:34:55 PMGuinness - funded Loyalists, a British company masquerading as Irish. Pays taxes to King too.
Bushmills - similar to above plus there's much better Irish whiskey
Facebook/Instagram/X/Tesla - any tech in Trump/Israel's pocket
Joe.ie - anti Rossie site - amount of trolling they are doing this week on Ros crest. Must be the lad with no chin.

How do you know they are trolling Ros this week if you are boycotting the site?!

Just started the boycott ;)
#45
Guinness - funded Loyalists, a British company masquerading as Irish. Pays taxes to King too.
Bushmills - similar to above plus there's much better Irish whiskey
Facebook/Instagram/X/Tesla - any tech in Trump/Israel's pocket
Joe.ie - anti Rossie site - amount of trolling they are doing this week on Ros crest. Must be the lad with no chin.