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The reaction in Mayo to this has been and continues to be head in the earth stuff. Ye are the reason lads like AOS/SOS and COC/Dillon felt so entitled that they thought they were bigger and better than the people brought in to manage them. Acting like AI winners off the field, but something far less on it.

If in business, a manager does not have the support of his/her most talented employees, then that manager would be likely toast. You seem to go out of your way to defend managers who have lost the dressing room. You are definitely County Board material.

You realise they were four up on Dublin in the second half of an AISF replay, right? Keep trying.

That doesn't change the fact that the players were not going to row in behind the management - when that happens a manager is, as I said, toast in any walk of life. The county board could, of course, have ignored the players' wishes as many county boards tend to do until the situation deteriorates. But when you don't take the right decision early, the world will give you a bigger kick in the gob down the road.

The reaction in Mayo to this has been and continues to be head in the earth stuff. Ye are the reason lads like AOS/SOS and COC/Dillon felt so entitled that they thought they were bigger and better than the people brought in to manage them. Acting like AI winners off the field, but something far less on it.

If in business, a manager does not have the support of his/her most talented employees, then that manager would be likely toast. You seem to go out of your way to defend managers who have lost the dressing room. You are definitely County Board material.

Has anyone ever stayed in Ashford Castle, what was it like?

Good while ago with the missus. Found the rooms dated with wallpaper geared towards grandmothers, the food excellent and the grounds lovely, in particular the view of Lough Corrib.

Given that blind harper Turlough O'Carolan grew up and composed his music in Roscommon, could go with any of his magnificent airs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EBiTDLpTUxY

Great game, but I'd see the defeat as a blessing in disguise for Dublin. The bigger fish is the three-in-a-row. Never got the sense that Dublin were putting too much into the league this year and were sluggish in many games. They may have felt they peaked too early last year and just about got over the line against Mayo, who themselves lived dangerously but improved as the year went on. That said, had a couple of decisions gone Dublin's way yesterday, they'd have pulled off a narrow victory, despite Kerry dominating for a long spell of the second half. Could be like 1977 - young Kerry team win the league, but we remember what happens in the championship.

Ref doing well here.
Needs to keep a firm grip on proceedings.

Up Ros.

I'm sure the Dublin media will be crying about something the ref did in the morning even if they end up hammering Kerry.

The best first half against Dublin and Kerry in Croke Park a Roscommon man has had in awhile.

From a Sligo viewpoint I'm genuinely worried about the New York trip. If they're as good as they were last year I think they'll beat us. I'd assume that would give Mayo a bye into the semi as there's no way they'll travel. You just don't know what NY will be like until well through the game. Will be some bittersweet history made with lads who came up through our underage ranks in the club on opposite sides which never happened before and I hope doesn't again.

We were iffy at best during the league. I couldn't see any evidence of progress or a plan/system. Hard to see that being put in place but having the new blood of several U21's on board might provide a spark.

I'm nearly sure there was something of a rule change for this year, that if New York did win a preliminary match, they would not be able to play. Whoever they beat would play in their place. Roscommon had a lucky escape from the Bronx last year!

Very lucky. Saved by Senan Kilbride who came on as a sub and scored a marvelous point from the sideline and Maurice Deegan blowing up a minute early. I felt the management should have encouraged Senan to stay another year, as he is only 31. However, the problems New York exposed in Gaelic Park, and Kerry exposed in the league semi just before that persist to this day. Arguably our defense has gotten much worse as FOD had some idea about defending. I wouldn't read too much into the defensive display against Cavan due to the way Cavan played a team of grannys could have kept the Breffni at bay.

Mystifying why Assad would turn to chemical weapons at this point within the overall context of where the military and environment has moved to.

Is it though? Has used them before. Has Russian support and all indications up to now is that Trump supported him, while Obama was never going to intervene. He would have thought no consequences. Now he knows Trump could bomb without a minutes notice, make that 30 mins notice as Russia were informed first.

Kevin Walsh managed Sligo teams still beat Mayo and Galway in championship football. I've lost track of the number of well funded Roscommon managers that have failed to achieve that since John Toibin last did in 2001, despite all the successful underage teams we produced compared to Sligo. And Kevin has a couple of All-Ireland medals to boot. Sy, sometimes as the saying goes it's better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Sy

Ye are a shambles, infighting, inconsistent and overrated.  I'm tired of reading all these stupid threads about Roscommon.  I should never have looked at this thread because I should have known better.

Just wondering when the " we beat Cavan, Cavan beat Mayo = we must be better than Mayo.

Anyways, happy Monday to ye all.

We still beat ye after spotting you eight points. Imagine how much it would have been had we decided to bother for the whole match..
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The difference is we accept we are a mediocre div 3 team ye think ye are much better than ye really are.  Imagine what would have happened if we decided to play in the second half?

Over and out

I don't know any Roscommon person who thinks that. Struggling to overcome NY and getting trounced by Clare in the championship would have put to bed any such notions. The performance in the league only clarified our position. Hyde Park yesterday was a contest between the two worst teams, and both rightly went down. The win is only meaningful in that it will give the team a bit of breathing room. A good beating by Cavan as some were predicting would have confirmed the team had gone backwards, given that we usually had their measure in important games in the Evans era. It just confirmed we're neither better nor worse. I think we would be a bit better if the Dalys and Neil Collins were involved and I would like to think McStay will seek those lads out, spit on the hand, shake and sort it out. I would expect us to survive Div 2 next year. The thread was also set up by some other counties, giving us an ironical and proverbial pat on the head with all the sincerity of an old lady saying aren't your kids great to be so well behaved as mass. It will be gone soon enough, and nothing to get too excited about.

Might be better solved by taking Saint Patrick as an example.
There's lots of "Saint Patrick's cathedrals" which is the equivalent of lots of "Padraic Pearse's GAA clubs", correctly spelled St. Patrick's and Padraic Pearse's - one too has to be careful with the use of a word and the mention of a word, thus the quotes.
Saint Patrick was a man
Padraic Pearse was a man
They had churches and GAA clubs named after them.
Their followers were often religious and passionate people but fairly poor at grammar.

All I'll say on the "expenses" front is that poor oul Evans is fairly green with envy.
The current package is common knowledge about the County.

Heard that Evans had issues with getting his "expenses" paid in a timely manner.

I wonder if McStay might run into the same issue down the line....

He won't.  He might run into a lot worse though!

Pretty sure McStay can handle the donkey whisperer in a fight.

Translation please.

Nope.

I ass-ume you are referring to the funniest thing ever posted on stolen-sheep. Beyond hilarious if true.

McStay called it "a moral victory". Funny, I thought we were hammered myself. He's now gone from playing the persecuted martyr in the hail last week (with Marty playing the sympathetic parishioner - "Was it  Gay Sheerin?") to Comical Ali this week. I predicted last year he'd be gone before the championship. I hope I am right but doubtful if he thinks that's a moral victory.

If we get rid the players better be planning on self-organizing their training because no one in the right mind wants to manage Roscommon.

Good. It might stop the know it alls in the county going after the customary high profile wafflers.

McStay called it "a moral victory". Funny, I thought we were hammered myself. He's now gone from playing the persecuted martyr in the hail last week (with Marty playing the sympathetic parishioner - "Was it  Gay Sheerin?") to Comical Ali this week. I predicted last year he'd be gone before the championship. I hope I am right but doubtful if he thinks that's a moral victory.

Think it's time for Roscommon County board instead of demanding an apology  to apologise themselves to Sheerin. It's scandalous that we are allowing Maughan The sequel to unfold before our eyes.