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#1846
General discussion / Re: Wipe out half of Roscommon
November 23, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 23, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
In other news a Roscommon farmer has handed in a plutonium rod. "Sure I was using it to fatten up the bullocks" said farmer syphilis. Experts claim he could have wiped out the other half of Roscommon but most likely he has only damaged himself, especially his brain which has shrivelled to the size of a pea.

After the brain reduction, he broke out into a verse of "Come back Paddy Reilly..."
#1847
General discussion / Re: Wipe out half of Roscommon
November 23, 2016, 03:42:51 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 23, 2016, 03:10:37 PM
Farmer stupidly derails plot to wipe out Mayo.

I've seen half of Mayo wiped out before - half time against Kerry in an All-Ireland.
#1848
General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
November 23, 2016, 03:28:28 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 23, 2016, 12:56:41 PM
Quote from: stew on November 23, 2016, 11:21:39 AM
Quote from: J70 on November 22, 2016, 09:56:11 PM
Dick Cheney told us that Reagan proved that deficits don't matter.

(And then they turned around and kept the costs of the Iraq war off the books).

Its only when Obama came in that the right suddenly discovered their distaste for deficit spending.

I would argue ten trillion by yourself is excessive, especially when you outspend the forty odd before you by yourself and the country is still weak!

I wouldn't fault Bush for the increase in deficit spending in 08 and 09 - it was a historic economic crash that shrunk revenue and threw millions out of work and homes. I just can't stand the hypocrisy.

Cheney is a revolting b**tard and worst. VP of all time.

Obama has added almost 8 trillion, not 10, unless you're giving Bush a pass on FY 2009, which began four months prior to Obama's inauguration.

Regardless, even it we do take 10 as the figure, you've still not given realistic answers to what he should have done under the circumstances. Economic catastrophe and massive military commitments, along with the large baby boomer cohort moving into retirement and drawing social security and Medicare... those are the big drivers of the debt.

Of course, the big joke about the deficit is that Trump's planned tax cuts and infrastructure spending is going to send the US deficit into orbit. But the Republicans will be introducing a new way of measuring it called Dynamic Scoring, or in other words changing the goalposts. So while they hammer Obama for a deficit that was driven up by Bush's policies (financial and housing crisis, paying for wars in middle east on fault reporting of weapons of mass destruction), they will now drive up the deficit but subtract from that the projected future growth because of the policies. It's the football equivalent of being 10 points down at half time but declaring victory because you'll eat into their lead in the second half.

#1849
General discussion / Re: Trump vs Hillary
November 09, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.

I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.

Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?

Good soundbyte. But you need to discount from that the policies he inherited from Bush that drove the debt up, in particular the stimulus packages after the financial crisis, the wars in the Middle East and the Bush tax cuts. Yes, you'll see it rising steeply under his presidency but these were not his policies. In fact a lot of analysis has been done to show that his policies added much less to debt than Bushes. On top of that, Bush inherited a booming economy and handed over a collapsed economy to Obama where unemployment had risen to something like 15%. Obama is handing the ecomomy over to Trump in much better shape than he found it.
#1850
General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
November 09, 2016, 02:49:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 09, 2016, 02:43:29 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president

They had something like 88% chance for Hillary this AM. Some turnaround.
#1851
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2016
November 07, 2016, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 07, 2016, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 06, 2016, 10:01:19 PM
Technically Mchale park isn't Castlebar's home ground (since that's owned by the CB) but it defacto is their home ground. This wasn't changed to circumvent Connacht council rules though, I'm sure it's the same in many county grounds around the country.

The spirit of the rule should probably be respected though and the game be played at a neutral venue.

If people are going to make wild allegations and allege various evil plots, could they provide some links or shreds of evidence please?

McHale Park isn't 'de facto' Mithel's home ground.

They don't play there anymore, the club volunteers who built it, maintained it, lined the pitch etc, don't even have access any more. It is the county ground.

When McHale Park did belong to the Mitchels, minors, U-21s, juniors etc would all get to play on the hallowed turf. Even schools games were played there all the time. That is because the club decided who played on the 'main pitch' and generally sent out most of their teams to play there. That doesn't happen anymore.

Mitchels played Ballintubber on the Josie Munnelly pitch in an important league game a number of weeks ago (no county players). That is their main pitch, de facto pitch and online conspiracy reality pitch.

The Prenty conspiracy theorists will need to look elsewhere.

The bigger question is what constitutes a neutral venue. The Connacht Council made a decision that all Connacht Club games at the championship stage should be played in neutral venues. This was after the ref was attacked by Corofin supporters after the Bridget's-Corofin game in Kiltoom. So Castlebar get to play in the... eh... neutral venue of McHale Park Castlebar because Pairc Munnelly is officially their home pitch. It's clearly not a very neutral venue, that's all.
#1852
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 05, 2016, 09:45:30 PM
Another soft try there. Will do well to hold on.
#1853
GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
October 14, 2016, 01:24:21 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on October 14, 2016, 12:02:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 14, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
Rossfan, Syf or whoever... Are those 'outside influences' who Fergal O'Donnell mentioned outside the Co Board or outside the last year's management/players? If it's outside the Co board then it doesn't look good.

Don't read too much into it. This is my understanding of events Fergal and Kevin both met and it was decided(Which was obvious) that joint management wasn't working. So one of them was always going to have to go. Boths sides started to canvass looking for support to get the job and kevin seemed to be getting the majority backing. A lot of the reasoning was Fergal had been there before, A lot of the poor player selections and tactics from last year looked to have been more Fergal than Kevin and a lot of people will tell you Kevin had little in put last year against the 3 Boyle men. He withdrew because he knew he wasn't going to get the Job.

There was one lad there in the half back line with zero pace (not the Boyle lad) - was he really a Fergal pick? And if Kevin chose his management team, what kind of manager is he if he cannot keep them in line? Indeed, what kind of manager is he if he cannot stop his brother in law from going on radio and podcasts criticising players by name and discussing their tactics in advance of a game?
I like Kevin McStay, don't get me wrong, but the whole narrative that it was all Fergal's fault seems to be an important one for those who made the move against Evans and Kearns last year, just to preserve their own reputations. That one of them was on the selection committee was another red flag to me. Also, most of the best modern managers have been young with novel new mindsets - we had a selection committee that was "auld style" to say the least and no disrespect to Mulvey but his skill is in conflict resolution and that he attended the 1962 All-Ireland - and that of course is another red flag (not the All-Ireland attendance but that a bit of conflict resolution was needed). Marty McDermott was a great manager but he was also on the selection committe that picked Des Newton who had no management experience (a great player) - and that was another red flag. Fergal is a good man who loves his county and I'd go with his side of the story on this one.

#1854
GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
October 13, 2016, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 13, 2016, 02:45:32 PM
Dineen was only ever a runner in his own head. Even managed to show himself up with a classless exit.

What's classless is the way Fergal, Dineen and Evans have been treated. Both Fergal and Nigel are the only managers to bring us to all-Irelands in modern times and both have highlighted troubling stuff about the process of selecting and treating managers. I predict McStay will have resigned before the start of 2017 championship and we'll be back to the days of caretaker managers.
#1855
General discussion / Re: Catholic nonsense
September 30, 2016, 01:46:23 PM
Always enjoyed the paradoxical Tertullian quote on faith:

"And the Son of God died: it is by all means to be believed, because it is absurd.
And, buried, He rose again: it is certain, because it is impossible"

The thing is, substitute God for your county at the beginning of every year and it would capture the faith of many a GAA fan.
#1856
GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
September 23, 2016, 04:07:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 23, 2016, 11:03:28 AM
I'd be surprised if Dineen will be the next manager after McStay because most of the managers I'm thinking about would have better machines behind them and more passionate supporters than Dineen does so it would take most or all of them deciding not to bother to leave an opening for Dineen.

And what if all the parts of McStay's machine don't work well together like in 2016, what good is a machine then?
And as regards more passionate supporters backing McStay - to quote a Sligoman: "the best lack all conviction, the worst are full of passionate intensity." That passionate supporters/intensity also happen to be a self-nominated elite in Roscommon GAA that decided to push Evans (the incoming chairman told him time to go) because they felt they had a better machine, that was attracting bigger sponsors. And therein you have everything that is wrong with Roscommon GAA. Our best managers have not had the big machine behind them - the Marty McDermott's, the John Toibins, Fergal (when on his own), Nigel (when on his own as U21 manager). When we've gone the celebrity circuit, it has always ended in tears. Will we ever learn? No, we won't.
#1857
You just triggered something and I don't mean Article 50
#1858
GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
September 14, 2016, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 14, 2016, 09:16:07 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 13, 2016, 09:30:46 PM
As the position is officially vacant or "open" as theCB described it McStay has to be nominated I understand.
No doubt the disparagers/underminers will have a club or the CB executive nominate him.
Closing date is 21st Sept at 5pm.

Mind you at last night's CB meeting  the delegates were " loud in their praise for the outgoing management" and this was unanimous. ::)

Thank f**k they were. If only they had the good sense not to open this nonsense to nominations.

Sure they were full of praise for Evans too when he stood down. By December when new the Messiahs had arrived, the county chairman was quoted in Herald saying:
"He (Evans) rang me and asked me what my thoughts were on him staying on. I told him that, as far as I was concerned, it was time to him and Roscommon to move on. I was very open with him but we've moved on from that now,".

Seems we have not moved too far...
#1859
GAA Discussion / Re: Patsy from Forkhill
September 11, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 11, 2016, 08:43:23 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/low/northern_ireland/1437397.stm

God be with the days

Still shocking that the BBC has not credited this to Hardy.
#1860
GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
September 11, 2016, 04:32:53 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 11, 2016, 04:01:10 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 10, 2016, 11:42:26 PM
Well Syfín, will you be rooting for your friend "Nige" or your hero "Kmac"?

I'll be going for Nige anyways.

Nige only has a chance to win the job if we've taken leave of all our senses. The lad who publicly threw a very large contingent of the current panel under the bus after the 2014 AI final. Even people in Castlerea aren't fully convinced he's a good manager. Hasn't set the world alight with his home club these past two seasons.

Such nonsense. Dineen didn't isolate any players for criticism like Liam McHale did after Galway hammering. If McStay can't control McHale's constant verbal diarohea  to media, then how has he the leadership skills to be manager. The ex Ros county stars and media hacks  and new county board who made the move to install the dream team have shown yet again their inability to pick a good management team. Some of them had earlier installed Des Newton (who had a certificate or something). The success of Liam Kearns who they ousted has embarrassed them and they are now trying to say sure McStay and McHale were the real dream team we wanted. We have a chance now to fix their mistake. Time to do it before they do more untold damage.