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#1
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
January 09, 2024, 02:58:06 PM
Andy must be on some money to be travelling up the country for that team...
#2
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
December 11, 2023, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on December 11, 2023, 01:36:52 PMAs I started the debate id like to weigh in. Brilliant bit of goalkeeping saves the ball between the stage of dropping the ball from hand to foot, only contact made with forward is due to the forward being in motion of kicking the ball takes him into the goalkeeper. If you pause it you can see the initial contact is with the ball and doesn't touch the man until the fella's momentum takes him into the keeper. 

Its honestly incredible goalkeeping great save/block.

I see how everyone has different opinions but your reasoning for saying its a foul MR2 is wrong as there is no contact with the man until after ball is blocked/saved.

P.S Pause the video at 16 seconds
You can't pause the match though, and my initial reaction from the view on screen 'live' is foul..

If it was a touch on the ball first then yes I can say keeper made contact with the ball play on.

As for having a chat with the umpires, yeah, not problems.. The umpires have a duty too and maybe they felt it was a free also as they didn't call him in?

You can tackle the ball in the square if the keeper has it, other contact will generally result in a free

I mentioned on another thread yesterday that the main chatter in games are what the ref did, rather than the mistakes the players do during the 60 + minutes of a game, is it easier to blame the ref for a teams failings?

You are right teams do see it as an easy coup out.

Even as a supporter i do it myself at initial reaction often time goes by maybe re watch the game you look and realise it usually isn't the ref that beats you.

However i did just say M'felt can feel hard done by with the decision but didn't blame Colm for them losing.

I'll also add i think Colm is one of the top Refs in our county at the moment. Good fair ref and treats the players with respect. 
#3
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
December 11, 2023, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 02:26:07 PMTo me there's absolutely no doubt the goalie makes the save between the player dropping the ball and his foot kicking it. The angle the ball comes out tells me that for sure but the real question is did he make contact with the player before the ball. The angle is inconclusive to be honest and you're really only trusting your eyes. Personally my first viewing was no foul but I can see why there's debate.

doesn't pause the video at 16 seconds can see its all ball
#4
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
December 11, 2023, 01:36:52 PM
As I started the debate id like to weigh in. Brilliant bit of goalkeeping saves the ball between the stage of dropping the ball from hand to foot, only contact made with forward is due to the forward being in motion of kicking the ball takes him into the goalkeeper. If you pause it you can see the initial contact is with the ball and doesn't touch the man until the fella's momentum takes him into the keeper. 

Its honestly incredible goalkeeping great save/block.

I see how everyone has different opinions but your reasoning for saying its a foul MR2 is wrong as there is no contact with the man until after ball is blocked/saved.

P.S Pause the video at 16 seconds
#5
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
December 10, 2023, 11:50:04 AM
Magherafelt minors can feel very hard done. That pen decision was absolutely awful don't know how he's give that.

Interested to hear MR2 views
#6
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
December 08, 2023, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 08, 2023, 11:21:00 AMThat's a pity the all star games are postponed. I was looking forward to bringing the kids to it.

I would not have been a nice experience for them considering the flooding in and around the Antrim area these past few days, roads closed all over the place last night on way home from work and it rained a good bit on top of that.

Can only imagine lads getting injured (Hightown springs to mind)

Think it will ever go ahead?
#7
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 27, 2023, 12:24:30 PM
I Didnt see this as much of a surprise originally it was a joint venture by heron and Buckingham group who were also doing the new stand at Liverpool but have sense went bust.

The fact half of the venture went bust probably left a lot of Heron's plate which they maybe couldn't commit to, no major surprise to me. 
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023
November 27, 2023, 09:58:13 AM
Arva stroll to a Ulster junior championship, pretends to be shocked...
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2023
November 27, 2023, 08:58:29 AM
An average team doesn't reach back to back Ulster club finals and potentially winning back to back.
#10
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 24, 2023, 02:31:35 PM
See they just posted two other roles:

Head of recruitment and scout covering county Derry area....
#11
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 24, 2023, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 24, 2023, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 01:45:32 PMShows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.

GPOs? Fair played to them.

Without the official title yes.
#12
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 24, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
Shows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.
#13
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 21, 2023, 10:19:48 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:58:50 AMAs I have no experience of how these things are decided, however the natural lift of the elbow after the impact I suspect would be enough for the ref to justify his decision in hindsight and the ban to stick

Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 21, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:27:15 AMAs much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.

I wouldn't imagine so, if the ref report states about the elbow and video evidence disproves it, this means the ref may have give the red card for a fair reason which he thought happened. But should be lifted because the ref was wrong.
#14
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 21, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:27:15 AMAs much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023
November 20, 2023, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 20, 2023, 09:14:41 AMUlster JFC Semi Final Results

Blackhill (Monaghan) 2-10 Fintona (Tyrone) 0-07
Arva (Cavan) 1-11 Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 0-04

Pretends to be shocked...