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[The death rate in Sweden is 60 per cent higher than in Ireland.)]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/could-ireland-become-the-wayward-child-of-europe-on-covid-response-1.4343216?mode=amp

Ireland, meanwhile, having achieved one of the lowest incidences in Europe in mid-summer, is now struggling to contain fresh outbreaks. So much so that the latest ECDC figures show our figures are higher than both the UK's and Sweden's. (The death rate in Sweden is 60 per cent higher than in Ireland.)

60% higher than 0 in Ireland in the last week?

Where does anyone mention the last week?

No one mentioned any figures.  That's the point.  It is scare mongering to put % figures on death rates when people generally aren't dying of it at the minute.  If there is 1 death in the next week (from or with) and 2 the week after will there be a headline 100% increase in deaths?

[The death rate in Sweden is 60 per cent higher than in Ireland.)]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/could-ireland-become-the-wayward-child-of-europe-on-covid-response-1.4343216?mode=amp

Ireland, meanwhile, having achieved one of the lowest incidences in Europe in mid-summer, is now struggling to contain fresh outbreaks. So much so that the latest ECDC figures show our figures are higher than both the UK's and Sweden's. (The death rate in Sweden is 60 per cent higher than in Ireland.)

60% higher than 0 in Ireland in the last week?

[LOUGHINISLAND]

SFC Round 3

BREDAGH   vs   LOUGHINISLAND
CLONDUFF GAC   vs   MAYOBRIDGE
KILCOO   vs   BURREN GAC
LONGSTONE   vs   RGU/Carryduff


IFC Round 3

DROMARA   vs   ST JOHN'S DRUMNAQUOILE
CLANN NA BANNA   vs   TULLYLISH
SAVAL   vs   NEWRY SHAMROCKS
BALLYMARTIN   vs   AN RIOCHT

Forgot to put my own predictions up so will take the penalty on the SFC game - For what it's worth I would have picked Rostrevor

SFC

Rostrevor (Void)
Ballyholland
Loughinisland
Clonduff
Burren
Kilcoo
Carryduff
Mayobridge

IFC

Liatroim
Saul
Dromara
Saval
Ballymartin
CLB
An Riocht
Annalcone

JFC

Kilclief
Mitchels
Ardglass

Kilclief have already won as well.

Think should let off for organising. Am sure would have picked Kilclief

[arrogant pr**k]

Yeah checked there Sligo had, Finn Harps
Dundalk, Cork City, Shamrock Rovers  St Pats hadn't

Bohemians and Shelburne are also not allowing fans to attend. Only Sligo and Finn Harps in the Premier Division are allowing small no of fans to attend.

LOI fans have a streaming service which is working well so fans can watch games online. Why should the GAA be different? GAA fans have no justification to demand they be allowed attend games. GAA need to accept the decision like all the other sporting organizations in this country have done

The GAA exists outside of Dublin and consists of mostly rural less than 500 member clubs.  It's up there with let them eat cake expecting anything outside the top clubs in most counties to be able to set up an online streaming service.

I never realised the internet only worked in Dublin and people capable providing the service don't exist outside the pale.

The ironic thing is that if a Dublin poster posted such a moronic and ridiculous post like yours he or she'd rightly be ridiculed as an arrogant pr**k.

Wexford for example are just one of multiple county boards providing online streaming of games the last few weeks.

Funny that was more or less my thoughts on you if you add D4.

I'll bet you most clubs in Down don't even have the internet but you wouldn't know as you get X million from Croke Park every year and have 20000 members so could have Jerome Quinn come up and stream your games.

Ah lad cop on. You're telling me the internet doesn't exist in Down? Even if such nonsense was true that's an issue you need to take up with government and political representatives.

Of course it exists but a club in the middle of nowhere unless they have a bar wouldn't have internet in the club.

[arrogant pr**k]

Yeah checked there Sligo had, Finn Harps
Dundalk, Cork City, Shamrock Rovers  St Pats hadn't

Bohemians and Shelburne are also not allowing fans to attend. Only Sligo and Finn Harps in the Premier Division are allowing small no of fans to attend.

LOI fans have a streaming service which is working well so fans can watch games online. Why should the GAA be different? GAA fans have no justification to demand they be allowed attend games. GAA need to accept the decision like all the other sporting organizations in this country have done

The GAA exists outside of Dublin and consists of mostly rural less than 500 member clubs.  It's up there with let them eat cake expecting anything outside the top clubs in most counties to be able to set up an online streaming service.

I never realised the internet only worked in Dublin and people capable providing the service don't exist outside the pale.

The ironic thing is that if a Dublin poster posted such a moronic and ridiculous post like yours he or she'd rightly be ridiculed as an arrogant pr**k.

Wexford for example are just one of multiple county boards providing online streaming of games the last few weeks.

Funny that was more or less my thoughts on you if you add D4.

I'll bet you most clubs in Down don't even have the internet but you wouldn't know as you get X million from Croke Park every year and have 20000 members so could have Jerome Quinn come up and stream your games.

Yeah checked there Sligo had, Finn Harps
Dundalk, Cork City, Shamrock Rovers  St Pats hadn't

Bohemians and Shelburne are also not allowing fans to attend. Only Sligo and Finn Harps in the Premier Division are allowing small no of fans to attend.

LOI fans have a streaming service which is working well so fans can watch games online. Why should the GAA be different? GAA fans have no justification to demand they be allowed attend games. GAA need to accept the decision like all the other sporting organizations in this country have done

The GAA exists outside of Dublin and consists of mostly rural less than 500 member clubs.  It's up there with let them eat cake expecting anything outside the top clubs in most counties to be able to set up an online streaming service.

i think the numbers attending GAA matches should be restricted. There is a differnence between business and peoples livelihoods and  sports and this is factored into what is and isnt an acceptable risk. The line is drawn somewhere and thats that however where the line is, is of course debateable.

i have not seen very many good arguments IMO for increases in spectators numbers at matches, however if the GAA stressed the economic benefit to local businesses of matches taking place i struggle to find an arguement of not allowing spectators at matches.

The good argument is that you are much less likely to get Covid outside than inside. Anyone that ignores this is ignoring science. Allowing 50 people indoors and only 15 outdoors is bollix.
And as for the economic argument, sport is a benefit to people, but there are some costs to running it and you are denying the means to cover those costs.

Well said.

i dont think ive seen anyone claim there is less chance of catching covid indoor v outdoor, so that whole argument is nonsense imo.

If you are inside the air everyone breathes out is circulating round the room in the same way the heat from a radiator circulates a room.  People open up windows in the morning to let fresh air in.

If you are outside you are much less likely to be breathing in the particles of the people in the vicinity.

Don't know about weddings but there is serious social distancing applied at Masses in my Diocese and presumably the rest do the same.
The GAA have done great work until they let the 100 or 400 spectators inside the grounds. Then it stops and they're let sit together all over the place.

Rossfan

1. You're careful to announce that mass in your diocese only is well marshalled.

2. But in almost the same breath you condemn 5000 clubs the length in breadth of Ireland, as being one in the same.


Surely you understand that you cannot qualify your statement on the latter through your observations on the former?

I'll bet when the priest says the mass is ended .. that most people leave around the same time and will be chatting as they head for the exit. 

130 by 80 meter is the minimum pitch size for a gaa match.  Which would be 420 meter perimeter.  Even if none of the people watching were from the same family that leaves plenty of room for social distancing if 100-150 people are watching the match.  I have to take my son to U11 matches which more or less have the children's parents watching the game (20 supporters max), am I expected to drive an hour to Newry for a match and then sit in the car as near as I can get outside the ground for an hour until it is over, if so I am more worried that if no one is keeping an eye on him he will be tripping over himself the whole game as he can't tie his shoe laces very well or step out in front of a car without looking coming to get me after the game than of any of us catching covid.

[Predictions Round 2]

Predictions Round 2

SFC

Bredagh vs Rostrevor
Longstone vs Bally Holland
Darraghcross vs Loughinisland
Clonduff vs Bryansford
Castewellan vs Burren
Kilcoo vs CPN
RGU vs Carryduff
Mayobridge vs Glenn


IFC

Letrim vs Shamrocks
St Johns vs Saul
Bright vs Dromara
Saval vs Teconnaught
Ballymartin vs Attical
Bosco vs CLB
An Roicht vs Drumgath
Annalcone vs Tullylish

JFC

East Belfast vs Kilclief
Mitchels vs St Michaels
Ardglass vs Aghaderg

[Snooker could do with some good young players coming on the scene. The last really top young player was Judd Trump in 2010/11 and he's 31 now.]

This was the best World Championship in years, no surprise Ronnie went far in it.

Snooker could do with some good young players coming on the scene. The last really top young player was Judd Trump in 2010/11 and he's 31 now.

Definitely do. A quick glance at the rankings and there are only 3 players under 30 in the top 16 and majority of the others are close to or are over 40. Ronnie was right in what he saying about the standard not being good among the younger players. Snooker needs a few superstars ASAP or ended when Ronnie retires and a few others the sport will be in the doldrums.

I would guess the percentage of young people playing snooker regularly in the UK is the lowest it's been in 40 years or more

Yeah I like a lot of people got a 6ft snooker table for Christmas but not sure any kids would ask for a table now.  Also there used to be a load of snooker halls about that you would get a bit high from all the ones smoking a joint while playing that have all been knocked down and converted into flats or whatever now.  Break building has got a lot better in the last 20 years due to better coaching, lighter balls, thinner clothes, heated tables, properly weighted 2 pieces cues etc. but the standard of match play has got a lot worse when you see players like Ken Doherty or Jimmy White still with an outside chance of making the last 32.  Wilson is probably the best of the young players (under 30) but he plays some real amateur shots like potting the last red when he needs 3 snookers, hitting a tricky red hard to get on the black when he only needs the red.  Things like that is part of the reason I think Ronnie is shaking his head thinking the standard of match play from the young players isn't that good.

Current top 16

Judd Trump (30)
Ronnie O'Sullivan  (44)
Neil Robertson (38)
Mark Selby (37)
Mark Allen (34)
Kyren Wilson (28)
John Higgins (45)
Shaun Murphy (38)
Stephen Maguire (39)
Mark Williams (45)
David Gilbert (39)
Ding Junhui (33)
Stuart Bingham (44)
Jack Lisowski (29)
Yan Bingtao (20)
Joe Perry (46)

Ronnie's the best thing that ever happened the game. The greatest player ever. To achieve what he has done with the demons he fights is truly astonishing. I'm delighted he won it. A sickener for Barry Hearn which surely everyone agrees is a good thing.

Barry Hearn loves it.  Worst case scenario for him is Ronnie says nothing gets knocked out in the first round and the final is Mark Selby vs Stuart Bingham.

Could Carryduff or Bredagh ever become a major force and win a Down champ in the future? With a lot of GAA ppl moving and settling in South Belfast there's bound to be some growth you'd think.

They only got promoted to division 1 this year so they might be looking to establish themselves at that level first but they are in the top few teams at most underage levels so they would probably be looking at a run in the senior championship in the next few years.

[. We actually had a transfer in for a lad who nobody ever heard of to east Belfast, odd. And the address he now has in ijn holylands]

https://youtu.be/C17UesFoXZ4

Off The Ball Interview with Dave MCGreevey the fella that founded East Belfast GAA

Side note why do they call themselves East Belfast GAA and not GAC?

Whole thing a circus. Where have all these players been before now?

Yeah they have some people looking their 15 mins of fame. You have Jerome Quinn following them about like a puppy. Linda Ervine has been everywhere but the crib getting interviewed, have to keep the profile up..........

I think Jerome Quinn is involved with coaching one of their teams but don't let that get in the way of A bit of good old fashioned begrudgery. As for you FBnS are you just jealous because you couldn't in your wildest dreams get the same sort of response to a new GAA club in your city?

100 percent we couldn't , envious, you bet.
But id be a bit pissed off with folk who wouldn't throw money or resources to clubs struggling for 60 years but are tripping over each other to get behind this. We actually had a transfer in for a lad who nobody ever heard of to east Belfast, odd. And the address he now has in ijn holylands,
💯 Percent

So??? Whats the point you're trying to make here?

The amount of crap on here in the last few pages is laughable. For what its worth, Jerome Quinn is not "following them round like a puppy". He's training the ladies team and is there every night. Some bitter bitter men about.

2 points. Some wingnut who has never set foot in our club is claiming he has, now looking an imaginary transfer to EB. As I said , circus. And secondly holylands isn't even In east Belfast last time I checked.
Just a few side notes which tbh probably don't have major relevance.

As I said I'm openly envious. Not afraid to admit it, Ive spent years voluntarily in GAA with little return , feck it I probably need therapy at this stage 

Do most Belfast clubs not have players from different catchment areas?? Christ maybe his mate plays for EB or his woman plays camogie and he was coaxed out. Good luck to them. I hope they go on to great things.

Carryduff have won last 3 down under 21s and Bredagh aren't far behind them. Not many blow in players would make either team. They'd have a decent chance of making the EB team though.

[Minimum wage]

It's a case of personal responsibility at this stage but some of the foreign nationals don't get that, particular the Muslims and the ethic travelling community.

This is like bad satire.

Sure why focus on the actual personal responsibility of the owners and management at meat processing plants to ensure safe working conditions when you can just lump it all on low wage workers and ethnic minorities.

The vacuous right-wing mantra of "personal responsibility" is both a dog whistle and a self-consciously fraudulent grift to protect untrammelled corporate power, and lack of corporate responsibility, and incompetence or worse.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/meat-plant-clusters-may-be-down-to-softly-softly-approach-1.4324924?mode=amp

We know now what works to stop the virus: distance, hand hygiene, masks. We know where the risky environments are: crowded indoor spaces, meat plants, shared accommodation.

Minimum wage workers have a "personal responsibility" to ensure they get their own flats rather than live in cramped shared accommodation, no doubt

Minimum wage workers live in cramped shared accommodation because they are on a minimum wage and can't afford to pay the rent and other bills on there own.

Em, yes, that's sort of my point

Hasn't stopped the vacuous "personal responsibility" mob vilifying them however

Haha I was wondering (hoping) you where being sarcastic