Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[tbrick18]

I think if u look bck at many a game P Bradley was always Double teamed. An exceptional player, who we could be badly doing with nowadays, as we simply don't have enough fire power out upfront. As for what he won, I think if RG of a few years ago was over some of them teams they would won sthing. Have a hard look at some of Derry managers bck then, they had done very little at county level.

This.
He's one of the best forwards I've ever seen play the game. That's not taking away from Mcguigan, just 2 different players.
Derry lost 2 generations of players due to poor county board decision making and appointing of some dubious managers.
I honestly believe in the 00's we had the players to challenge anyone in the country and should have.
We had class in every line on the pitch - Bradley(s), Muldoon, Patsy B, Fergal Doc, Lynch, SML, Johnny McBride, Kevin McGuckin. Even the likes of Joe Diver, Barry McGoldrick and Liam Hinphy were really good on their day. In 06 we spanked then AI champs tyrone, then went out and got beat by Donegal. No consistency and poor in-game maanagement which I always felt was a managerial issue.

Anyway, I digress.
McGuigan is class, a real workhorse and can take a score. Needs to improve shooting off his weaker foot but who doesnt.
One being a class act doesnt take away from the other. Imagine we had both in a team now!

Double teamed or not i'd rather be a forward in PB's era than the era McGuigan has played in. In the games last year v Donegal or Galway anytime he got the ball there were 3 or 4 players ready to pounce on him with 15 men behind the ball.

There are some good players on that list but a lot of them aren't as good as the modern era. The likes of McGuigan, Glass, Ethan Doherty, McKinless, Rogers, McFaul. A post 93 team would be made up of half the current team.

It's like comparing apples and oranges though as the game has changed a lot, certainly in terms of fitness levels and professionalism.
I was simply saying at that time in the 00's we had as good as anyone and didnt translate it to results.

I honestly think PB was a generational player, and could play the modern game just as well as mcguigan.
Only my opinion. But I never bought into this narrative that PB didnt perform against the better teams as that suggests the rest of the Derry team at the time did, but PB didnt step up.

[JE23]

What would a best Derry team post 1993 not including any All Ireland winners look like?

1. Barry Gillis
2. Conor McCloskey
3. Chrissy McKaigue
4. Kevin McGuckin
5. Brendan Rodgers
6. Johnny McBride
7. Gareth McKindless
8. Conor Glass
9. Fergal Doherty
10. Ethan Doherty
11. Eoin Bradley
12. Mark Lynch
13. Shane McGuigan
14. Paddy Bradley
15. Enda Muldoon


??

[oakleaflad]

What would a best Derry team post 1993 not including any All Ireland winners look like?

1. Barry Gillis
2. Conor McCloskey
3. Chrissy McKaigue
4. Kevin McGuckin
5. Brendan Rodgers
6. Johnny McBride
7. Gareth McKindless
8. Conor Glass
9. Fergal Doherty
10. Ethan Doherty
11. Eoin Bradley
12. Mark Lynch
13. Shane McGuigan
14. Paddy Bradley
15. Enda Muldoon


??

Sean Marty

[jb77]

I see Kerry's method of limiting Tohill in the second half was sending a man to push him off the spots and hold him when he tried to jump

[tbrick18]

What would a best Derry team post 1993 not including any All Ireland winners look like?

1. Barry Gillis
2. Conor McCloskey
3. Chrissy McKaigue
4. Kevin McGuckin
5. Brendan Rodgers
6. Johnny McBride
7. Gareth McKindless
8. Conor Glass
9. Fergal Doherty
10. Ethan Doherty
11. Eoin Bradley
12. Mark Lynch
13. Shane McGuigan
14. Paddy Bradley
15. Enda Muldoon


??

Lockhart has to be in there. Dermot McBride was also an excellent corner back and was right up there with the best in the country in terms of man-marking.
Paul McFlyn would have to be considered.
I'd have Lynch in goals before Gillis, I can't actually think of who our other keepers were.
Sean-Leo McGoldrick was top class too.
Gilligan? Didnt set the world on fire, but was consistent and scored plenty.

[tbrick18]

I see Kerry's method of limiting Tohill in the second half was sending a man to push him off the spots and hold him when he tried to jump

Is there anywhere to stream the game? I only got the hightlights....

[Mario]

1. Odhran Lynch
2. Conor McCloskey
3. Chrissy McKaigue
4. Sean Marty Lockhart
5. Brendan Rodgers
6. Gareth McKindless
7. Sean Leo McGoldrick
8. Conor Glass
9. Fergal Doherty
10. Ethan Doherty
11. Eoin Bradley
12. Mark Lynch
13. Shane McGuigan
14. Paddy Bradley
15. Enda Muldoon

Would be my team. In reality that forward line wouldn't work and i'd probably want Enda Lynn in there for his running ability.

[jmcgdoire]

1. Barry Gillis
2. Sean Marty Lockhart
3. Kevin McCloy
4. Kevin McGuckin
5. Gareth McKinless
6. Chrissy McKaigue
7. Brendan Rogers
8. Conor Glass
9. Fergal Doherty
10. Ciaran McFaul
11. Eoin Bradley
12. Mark Lynch
13. Paddy Bradley
14. Shane McGuigan
15. Enda Muldoon

Unused: C Gilligan, Patsy Bradley, Conor McCloskey, SL McGoldrick, G O'Kane

Maybe nostalgia has gotten the better of me there.
Not sure how McCloskey doesnt make the cut but I cant drop any of the other 6 defenders.
And it says a lot about the front 6 that cant I squeeze in Conleth Gilligan.

[tbrick18]

1. Barry Gillis
2. Sean Marty Lockhart
3. Kevin McCloy
4. Kevin McGuckin
5. Gareth McKinless
6. Chrissy McKaigue
7. Brendan Rogers
8. Conor Glass
9. Fergal Doherty
10. Ciaran McFaul
11. Eoin Bradley
12. Mark Lynch
13. Paddy Bradley
14. Shane McGuigan
15. Enda Muldoon

Unused: C Gilligan, Patsy Bradley, Conor McCloskey, SL McGoldrick, G O'Kane

Maybe nostalgia has gotten the better of me there.
Not sure how McCloskey doesnt make the cut but I cant drop any of the other 6 defenders.
And it says a lot about the front 6 that cant I squeeze in Conleth Gilligan.

Personally I always though Chrissy was a disaster in CHB. Played his best football for Derry in the full back line.
Had completely forgot about McCloy - one of the better full backs of the time. Nial McCusker too for that matter. I remember him totally nullifying Star in a Div 1 league final.
We've had some seriously top class defenders in particular over the last 20/30 years.
The forward line is easier to pick as it was always where we've been in shorter supply.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Mcflynn and Doogie

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Joe Cassidy
Michael McGoldrick?

(I'm not from Bellaghy)
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[bannside]

Johnny McBride must be in the conversation too! Fergal Doherty carried Derry for a long time, probably first name on the managers teamsheet.

[smort]

Looks like Donncha Gilmore picked up a bad shoulder injury there playing for UCD in sigerson semi final

[Wildweasel74]

It's on tg4 sport player. Tohill was been held bck nearly ever time on kickouts, problem is the ref was on top of the play and blew none of it, the mind boggles. Then blew one on Glass, in the 1st half for a push, u can see no push on tv, ref moves it up as Connor was turning to play the ball as he thought he had a mark. Ref give Kerry a 50m foul for not releasing the ball. and a easy point for Kerry. So he gave a few ones that u can't see on replays but the most obvious fouling on Tohill he gave nothing.

[screenexile]

Gilmore looks to be out for a while!