Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[AustinPowers]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

[armaghniac]

Did Louth kick up a fuss or were they happy enough?

So if the players are responsible people than it OK to move, but not if they are whiners?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

As I said, 20 years ago Armagh were AI champions and they played in Clones. They got on with it

[93-DY-SAM]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

Should be up to the county with the home advantage. If they want to play at their home venue that's their call provided the ground meets relevant specs regardless of capacity. But if they want to fulfil the fixture at a bigger venue then that should be their call - not the other county because of some sense of entitlement.

[AustinPowers]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

Should be up to the county with the home advantage. If they want to play at their home venue that's their call provided the ground meets relevant specs regardless of capacity. But if they want to fulfil the fixture at a bigger venue then that should be their call - not the other county because of some sense of entitlement.

Agreed

[ck]

It's fairly simple. If you are drawn out first you get home advantage. If the demand for the game exceeds that of ground capacity then the Ulster Council have every right to ask the home team to move, however the home team should also have every right to say no!

[tiempo]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

Week on week thousands decide (by their absence) that only hundreds (or less) attend scores of games around the county  at all levels. Its Antrims call and more power to them, having to watch on TV or the pub is a first world problem, there'll be plenty of other games for everyone to attend before and after this game

Why should the GAA deliberately turn people away? Especially as in the case of the Armagh people they have actually gone to games during the year? The GAA should not be elitist. Twenty years ago Armagh did not play at home, they went and won and Sam, they did not make prima donna statements to the TV.

By that logic people are deliberately turned away from All-Ireland finals

There is plenty of elitism in the GAA but hosting a designated home game at a home ground and having to adhere to the capacity of the venue isn't elitist

[Spiderlegs]

It's fairly simple. If you are drawn out first you get home advantage. If the demand for the game exceeds that of ground capacity then the Ulster Council have every right to ask the home team to move, however the home team should also have every right to say no!

That is simple yes. But was it not reported a while back that the Antrim County Board had agreed to play elsewhere? The latest is from the players and management - and I totally understand what they are saying.

[Spiderlegs]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

[BigGreenField]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

Week on week thousands decide (by their absence) that only hundreds (or less) attend scores of games around the county  at all levels. Its Antrims call and more power to them, having to watch on TV or the pub is a first world problem, there'll be plenty of other games for everyone to attend before and after this game

Why should the GAA deliberately turn people away? Especially as in the case of the Armagh people they have actually gone to games during the year?

Because they have been drawn away to Antrim and the ground isn't big enough, especially in the case of Armagh which has more bandwagon county supporters with no club affiliation than anyone bar the Dubs.

[Spiderlegs]

Because they have been drawn away to Antrim and the ground isn't big enough, especially in the case of Armagh which has more bandwagon county supporters with no club affiliation than anyone bar the Dubs.

How exactly would you go about proving or quantifying that throw away statement?

[Orior]

FFS, just play out a draw and then take it back to the Athletic Grounds.

[Spiderlegs]

FFS, just play out a draw and then take it back to the Athletic Grounds.

Sure it goes to extra time and penalties

[SaffronSports]

As I see it, Ulster/GAA should be capping season tickets if there's a possibility that not all possible grounds can take the amount of tickets sold. Only sport in the world where this nonsense would happen. Imagine Celtic telling Dundee we have too many season tickets so you'll have to play us somewhere else.

[Spiderlegs]

As I see it, Ulster/GAA should be capping season tickets if there's a possibility that not all possible grounds can take the amount of tickets sold. Only sport in the world where this nonsense would happen. Imagine Celtic telling Dundee we have too many season tickets so you'll have to play us somewhere else.

They are capped Saffron. The anomaly of a sold out season ticket county having to play in Corrigan was just never factored in.

[AustinPowers]

What Is the  limit  of season tickets a county can have?