Both melees against Donegal and Galway were particularly brainless and ultimately suited the opposition.
I think the Armagh setup need to reflect on this. The object should be to win games, standing up for yourself in the melee should not be an objective if it interferes with winning. Some things that go on, e.g. pointless fouls giving away points, slabbering about frees and getting them moved up and wild challenges that end up with people getting sent off, are not helping winning games.
Armagh drew with Galway, one more point would have done the job and discipline is part of the solution to getting that point.
Never understood players attitude of standing up for themselves. All teams have these "hard" men type. The best way to hurt the opposition is to do it on the score board. If someone is pushing and shoving you ignore it until the ref sees it then use the extra motivation to get the next score.
Getting involved in meelee isnt hurting the opposition its often plyaing into their hands. Can understand younger players getting involved but the more experienced players should know this by now.