Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) v Clonoe O'Rahillys(Tyrone)
Celtic Park
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) v St Galls(Antrim)
2-30pm Ballybofey
Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) v Ballinagh(Cavan)
2-30pm Brewster Park
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) v Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh)
2-30pm Páirc Esler
Scotstown(Monaghan) v Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry)
2-30pm Clones
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Donegal/Antrim v Fermanagh/Cavan
Down/Armagh v Monaghan/Derry/Tyrone
Sunday 1st December
Final
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Armagh v Derry
Athletic Grounds
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Cavan v Antrim
Breffni Park
Tyrone v Fermanagh
Omagh
Monaghan v Down
Clones
Donegal v Armagh/Derry
(Donegal v Armagh - Ballybofey) (Donegal v Derry - Celtic Park)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Cavan/Antrim v Tyrone/Fermanagh
Monaghan/Down v Armagh/Derry/Donegal
Sunday 1st December
Final
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Antrim v Down
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Cavan v Armagh
Breffni Park
Monaghan v Derry
Clones
Fermanagh v Donegal
Brewster Park
Tyrone v Antrim/Down
(Tyrone v Antrim - Omagh) (Tyrone v Down - Páirc Esler)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals
Cavan/Armagh v Monaghan/Derry
Fermanagh/Donegal v Antrim/Down/Tyrone
Sunday 1st December
Final
Ulster Senior Hurling Club Championship
Sunday 6th October
Quarter Final:
Fermanagh v Armagh
Sunday13th October
Semi Finals:
Antrim v Down
Fermanagh/Armagh v Derry
Sunday 27th October
Final:
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Club Championship
A Club that has previously won this Provincial Championship shall not participate for five years after their previous win. This applies in a County where Junior, Intermediate and Senior Championship are organised. A Club shall have participated in their County Championship for three years after their previous win. This applies in a County where less than three Championships are organised. A County Board must apply to Comhairle Uladh for regrading if necessary.
If any other team than Keady or Middletown were to win the Armagh Senior Hurling Championship, then they would compete in the Ulster Intermediate Championship in 2013.
(Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh, Monaghan and Tyrone)
Sunday 6th October
Quarter Finals:
Derry v Tyrone
Celtic Park
Donegal v Antrim
Ballybofey
Armagh Bye
Monaghan Bye
Sunday 13th October
Semi Finals:
Derry/Tyrone v Donegal/Antrim
Armagh v Monaghan
Sunday 27th October
Final
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship
A Club that has previously won this Provincial Championship shall not participate for five years after their previous win. This applies in a County where Junior, Intermediate and Senior Championship are organised. A Club shall have participated in their County Championship for three years after their previous win. This applies in a county where less than three Championships are organised. A County Board must apply to Comhairle Uladh for regrading if necessary.
If Castleblayney win the Monaghan Championship, or Naomh Colum Cille win the Tyrone Championship or Burt win the Donegal Championship then they would compete in the Ulster Intermediate Championship in 2013, unless Comhairle Uladh decide otherwise.
Sunday 29th September
Preliminary Round
Derry v Donegal
Celtic Park
Sunday 6th October
Quarter Finals:
Armagh v Monaghan
Athletic Grounds
Tyrone v Fermanagh
Omagh
Down v Antrim
Páirc Esler
Cavan v Derry/Donegal
(Cavan v Derry - Breffni Park) (Cavan v Donegal - Ballybofey)
Sunday13th October
Semi Finals:
Armagh/Monaghan v Tyrone/Fermanagh
Down/Antrim v Derry/Donegal/Cavan
Sunday 27th October
Final
Draw for Donegal Senior Football Championship 2013.
Gone are the Home and Away 1st Round matches.
Four Groups of four instead with the leading two teams at the end of the three matches going through to the Quarter Finals.
The first two drawn out in each Group will have two Home games. (Teams below are as they were drawn out)
(Scoring differences will count in deciding who goes forward to the Quarter Finals in the event of teams finishing level on points)
Group 1
Naomh Adhamhnáin
Málainn
Naomh Conaill
Cloch Cheann Fhaola
Group 2
Ard a'Rátha
Na Ceithre Maistirí
Seán Mac Cumhaill
Gleann Fhinne
Group 3
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
An Tearmann
An Clochán Liath
Group 4
Bun Dobhráin
Naomh Mícheál
Cill Chartha
Gleann tSuilí
Quote from: drici on February 17, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Derry v Tyrone
Celtic Park
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Donegal v Antrim
Ballybofey
Fermanagh v Cavan
Brewster Park
Down v Armagh
Páirc Esler
Monaghan v Derry/Tyrone
(Monaghan v Derry - Clones) (Monaghan v Tyrone - Omagh)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Donegal/Antrim v Fermanagh/Cavan
Down/Armagh v Derry/Tyrone/Monaghan
Sunday 1st December
Final
I really think it was time that the whole issue of fixture scheduling was re-assessed by the GAA. The whole club series should be started 2 weeks earlier and the AI club series finished off before Christmas. The GAA is still rooted to old ideals of playing the club finals on St Patricks day but its ludicrous to play AI club semi finals 12 weeks after the previous round. Asking players to train maybe 30-40 times for one match is completely ridiculous, imagine trying to explain that to someone who knew nothing about the sport. Also any momentum that a team had built up before Christmas is gone by the time they play again in mid February.
If the AI Intercounty series was scheduled to finish the 1st week of September that would free up 3 full months to play off the club series which should be more than adequate.
Spot on yellow card.
you are 100% correct, I have argued this for a long long time,
Agree, its as if they drag the whole thing out just for the novelty of playing it on St Patrick's Day
Yes lads I can see where you are going, but as a club man watching your team walk out on at Croke Park on St Paddy's day is the best feeling in the world. We've been there a couple of times on Paddy's day, some craic.
There are a few posters here who have had that day out, they will all say the same thing, but on reflection believe it may need changing, but if a player has that chance to play in Croke Park, they'll want that feeling on any day of the year but Paddy's day is something else
Armagh Senior Football Championship
Pearse Óg v Dromintee
Granemore v Armagh Harps
Ballymacnab v Culloville
Whitecross v St Patrick's
Killeavy v Maghery
Ballymacnab/Culloville v Granemore/Harps
Sarsfields v Whitecross/St Patrick's
Crossmaglen v Pearse Óg/Dromintee
Carrickcruppen v Killeavy/Maghery
Nevermind the feelings that MR2 describes above but the reality is that even within counties there is far too much fixture congestion. The only way to run the whole lot,club and county, off in a single calender year is to scrap the back door system at club and county level and start the club championships at a sensible time. For example, the Armagh championship doesn't start until August! I think Down is similar.
Simply saying that starting the games earlier also fails to comprehend how difficult it is to play/train in November, the club finals are to be the showcase for the 'grass-roots' and people want to relegate them to potential mudbaths? And that would just be the football, would it be right to have the best club hurlers playing in a quagmire? I think what might be more feasible is that the county schedule be changed back to the way it used to be in terms of the National League and then bring forward the championship by 3-4 weeks with AI finals being played at the end of August/early September. Scrap the McKenna cup etc and simply have NL games running Oct/ November and Feb/March.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 18, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
Simply saying that starting the games earlier also fails to comprehend how difficult it is to play/train in November, the club finals are to be the showcase for the 'grass-roots' and people want to relegate them to potential mudbaths? And that would just be the football, would it be right to have the best club hurlers playing in a quagmire?
The club finals are played in Croke Park so they won't be played in a quagmire no matter what time of the year they're run off.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 18, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
Nevermind the feelings that MR2 describes above but the reality is that even within counties there is far too much fixture congestion. The only way to run the whole lot,club and county, off in a single calender year is to scrap the back door system at club and county level and start the club championships at a sensible time. For example, the Armagh championship doesn't start until August! I think Down is similar.
Simply saying that starting the games earlier also fails to comprehend how difficult it is to play/train in November, the club finals are to be the showcase for the 'grass-roots' and people want to relegate them to potential mudbaths? And that would just be the football, would it be right to have the best club hurlers playing in a quagmire? I think what might be more feasible is that the county schedule be changed back to the way it used to be in terms of the National League and then bring forward the championship by 3-4 weeks with AI finals being played at the end of August/early September. Scrap the McKenna cup etc and simply have NL games running Oct/ November and Feb/March.
I'm all for running it off in a calender year and would be in favour of the backdoor system being changed to an open draw. But getting counties to run off their championships before the end of September is going to be difficult, the counties left in the latter stages of the the All Ireland will not have their players available for clubs, counties would also need to have straight knockout championships instead of group stages, so many things to change.
And then you run the provincial championships and get them finished before when? The pitches are shite in November and December
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 18, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
Simply saying that starting the games earlier also fails to comprehend how difficult it is to play/train in November, the club finals are to be the showcase for the 'grass-roots' and people want to relegate them to potential mudbaths?
But the only additional 2 matches to the existing schedule will be the AI semi finals since the final will be played in Croke Park, not exactly a renowned mud bath. Also those 2 semi finals are currently played in mid February so that hardly constitutes guaranteed good ground so little would change in terms of pitch surfaces.
Everyone will have their own ideas but can anyone honestly say that its a good idea to have a 12 week break between the AI club quarter finals (provincial finals) and semi finals simply to drag the competition out in order to withold the tradition of playing the final on St Patricks day? At the very least it needs debating but I suspect it won't happen.
Quote from: drici on February 17, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Derry v Tyrone
Celtic Park
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Donegal v Antrim
Ballybofey
Fermanagh v Cavan
Brewster Park
Down v Armagh
Páirc Esler
Monaghan v Derry/Tyrone
(Monaghan v Derry - Clones) (Monaghan v Tyrone - Omagh)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Donegal/Antrim v Fermanagh/Cavan
Down/Armagh v Derry/Tyrone/Monaghan
Sunday 1st December
Final
All the big teams in the one side of the draw this year, will be a dog fight there, I fancy the Antrim champions (whoever they be, fancy Lamhs) to get to the Ulster final
Quote from: drici on February 18, 2013, 01:42:56 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship
Pearse Óg v Dromintee
Granemore v Armagh Harps
Ballymacnab v Culloville
Whitecross v St Patrick's
Killeavy v Maghery
Ballymacnab/Culloville v Granemore/Harps
Sarsfields v Whitecross/St Patrick's
Crossmaglen v Pearse Óg/Dromintee
Carrickcruppen v Killeavy/Maghery
I thought it was an open draw each round?
Draw for Donegal Senior Football Championship 2013.
Gone are the Home and Away 1st Round matches.
Four Groups of four instead with the leading two teams at the end of the three matches going through to the Quarter Finals.
The first two drawn out in each Group will have two Home games. (Teams below are as they were drawn out)
(Scoring differences will count in deciding who goes forward to the Quarter Finals in the event of teams finishing level on points)
Group 1
Naomh Adhamhnáin
Málainn
Naomh Conaill
Cloch Cheann Fhaola
Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-10 Málainn 1-08
Group 2
Ard a' Rátha
Na Ceithre Maistirí
Seán Mac Cumhaill
Gleann Fhinne
Seán Mac Cumhaill 2-12 Gleann Fhinne 1-05
Group 3
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
An Tearmann
An Clochán Liath
Group 4
Bun Dobhráin
Naomh Mícheál
Cill Chartha
Gleann tSuilí
was there not another game tonight drici?
Quote from: theticklemister on June 01, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
was there not another game tonight drici?
Bun Dobhráin v Naomh Mícheál put back until amárach.
Quote from: drici on June 01, 2013, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 01, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
was there not another game tonight drici?
Bun Dobhráin v Naomh Mícheál put back until amárach.
damn holidayers
Draw for Donegal Senior Football Championship 2013.
Gone are the Home and Away 1st Round matches.
Four Groups of four instead with the leading two teams at the end of the three matches going through to the Quarter Finals.
The first two drawn out in each Group will have two Home games. (Teams below are as they were drawn out)
(Scoring differences will count in deciding who goes forward to the Quarter Finals in the event of teams finishing level on points)
Group 1
Naomh Adhamhnáin
Málainn
Naomh Conaill
Cloch Cheann Fhaola
Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-10 Málainn 1-08
Naomh Conaill 0-15 Cloch Cheann Fhaola 0-07
Cloch Cheann Fhaola 1-07 Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-17
Málainn 1-08 Naomh Conaill 0-11
Naomh Adhamhnáin 0-00 Naomh Conaill 0-00
Málainn 0-00 Cloch Cheann Fhaola 0-00
Naomh Adhamhnáin 4 (+18)
Naomh Conaill 3 (+8)
Málainn 1 (-5)
Cloch Cheann Fhaola 0 (-14)
Group 2
Ard a' Rátha
Na Ceithre Maistirí
Seán Mac Cumhaill
Gleann Fhinne
Seán Mac Cumhaill 2-12 Gleann Fhinne 1-05
Ard a' Rátha 1-11 Na Ceithre Maistirí 1-07
Gleann Fhinne 0-13 Ard a' Rátha 2-11
Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-09 Seán Mac Cumhaill 0-08
Ard a' Rátha 0-00 Seán Mac Cumhaill 0-00
Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-00 Gleann Fhinne 0-00
Ard a' Rátha 4 (+8)
Seán Mac Cumhaill 2 (+9)
Na Ceithre Maistirí 2 (-3)
Gleann Fhinne 0 (-14)
Group 3
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
An Tearmann
An Clochán Liath
An Tearmann 2-09 An Clochán Liath 1-12
Gaoth Dobhair 0-08 Na Cealla Beaga 0-08
An Clochán Liath 0-00 Gaoth Dobhair 0-00
Na Cealla Beaga 0-00 An Tearmann 0-00
Group 4
Bun Dobhráin
Naomh Mícheál
Cill Chartha
Gleann tSuilí
Bun Dobhráin 1-07 Naomh Mícheál 0-10
Cill Chartha 0-14 Gleann tSuilí 2-07
Gleann tSuilí 3-13 Bun Dobhráin 0-09
Naomh Mícheál 1-14 Cill Chartha 1-16
Bun Dobhráin 0-00 Cill Chartha 0-00
Naomh Mícheál 0-00 Gleann tSuilí 0-00
Cill Chartha 4 (+3)
Gleann tSuilí 2 (+12)
Naomh Mícheál 1 (-2)
Bun Dobhráin 1 (- 13)
Draw for Donegal Senior Football Championship 2013.
Gone are the Home and Away 1st Round matches.
Four Groups of four instead with the leading two teams at the end of the three matches going through to the Quarter Finals.
The first two drawn out in each Group will have two Home games. (Teams below are as they were drawn out)
(Scoring differences will count in deciding who goes forward to the Quarter Finals in the event of teams finishing level on points)
Group 1
Naomh Adhamhnáin - through to Quarter Finals
Málainn - through to Quarter Finals
Naomh Conaill
Cloch Cheann Fhaola
Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-10 Málainn 1-08
Naomh Conaill 0-15 Cloch Cheann Fhaola 0-07
Cloch Cheann Fhaola 1-07 Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-17
Málainn 1-08 Naomh Conaill 0-11
Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-15 Naomh Conaill 3-09
Málainn 2-16 Cloch Cheann Fhaola 0-01
Naomh Adhamhnáin 6 (+18)
Málainn 3 (+16)
Naomh Conaill 3 (+5)
Cloch Cheann Fhaola 0 (-35)
Group 2
Ard a' Rátha - through to Quarter Finals
Na Ceithre Maistirí
Seán Mac Cumhaill - through to Quarter Finals
Gleann Fhinne
Seán Mac Cumhaill 2-12 Gleann Fhinne 1-05
Ard a' Rátha 1-11 Na Ceithre Maistirí 1-07
Gleann Fhinne 0-13 Ard a' Rátha 2-11
Na Ceithre Maistirí 0-09 Seán Mac Cumhaill 0-08
Ard a' Rátha 1-08 Seán Mac Cumhaill 0-13
Na Ceithre Maistirí 1-13 Gleann Fhinne 1-12
Seán Mac Cumhaill 4 (11)
Ard a' Rátha 4 (+6)
Na Ceithre Maistirí 4 (-2)
Gleann Fhinne 0 (-15)
Group 3 - last Round of games still to be played
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
An Tearmann
An Clochán Liath
An Tearmann 2-09 An Clochán Liath 1-12
Gaoth Dobhair 0-08 Na Cealla Beaga 0-08
An Clochán Liath 1-06 Gaoth Dobhair 1-11
Na Cealla Beaga 0-09 An Tearmann 0-08
Gaoth Dobhair 0-00 An Tearmann 0-00
Na Cealla Beaga 0-00 An Clochán Liath 0-00
Gaoth Dobhair 3 (+5)
Na Cealla Beaga 3 (+1)
An Tearmann 1 (-1)
An Clochán Liath 1 (-5)
Group 4
Bun Dobhráin
Naomh Mícheál
Cill Chartha - through to Quarter Finals
Gleann tSuilí - through to Quarter Finals
Bun Dobhráin 1-07 Naomh Mícheál 0-10
Cill Chartha 0-14 Gleann tSuilí 2-07
Gleann tSuilí 3-13 Bun Dobhráin 0-09
Naomh Mícheál 1-14 Cill Chartha 1-16
Bun Dobhráin 0-07 Cill Chartha 2-19
Naomh Mícheál 0-07 Gleann tSuilí 0-09
Cill Chartha 6 (+21)
Gleann tSuilí 4 (+14)
Naomh Mícheál 1 (-4)
Bun Dobhráin 1 (- 31)
Group 3
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
An Tearmann
An Clochán Liath
An Tearmann 2-09 An Clochán Liath 1-12
Gaoth Dobhair 0-08 Na Cealla Beaga 0-08
An Clochán Liath 1-06 Gaoth Dobhair 1-11
Na Cealla Beaga 0-09 An Tearmann 0-08
Gaoth Dobhair 1-10 An Tearmann 1-09
Na Cealla Beaga 0-15 An Clochán Liath 0-10
Gaoth Dobhair win Group 3 having scored more than Na Cealla Beaga in the three games.
Gaoth Dobhair 5 (+6)
Na Cealla Beaga 5 (+6)
An Tearmann 1 (-2)
An Clochán Liath 1 (-9)
Through to Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals draw on Tuesday
Naomh Adhamhnáin
Málainn
Seán Mac Cumhaill
Ard a' Rátha
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
Cill Chartha
Gleann tSuilí
Quote from: drici on July 06, 2013, 09:14:13 PM
Group 3
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
An Tearmann
An Clochán Liath
An Tearmann 2-09 An Clochán Liath 1-12
Gaoth Dobhair 0-08 Na Cealla Beaga 0-08
An Clochán Liath 1-06 Gaoth Dobhair 1-11
Na Cealla Beaga 0-09 An Tearmann 0-08
Gaoth Dobhair 1-10 An Tearmann 1-09
Na Cealla Beaga 0-15 An Clochán Liath 0-10
Gaoth Dobhair win Group 3 having scored more than Na Cealla Beaga in the three games.
Gaoth Dobhair 5 (+6)
Na Cealla Beaga 5 (+6)
An Tearmann 1 (-2)
An Clochán Liath 1 (-9)
Through to Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals draw on Tuesday
Naomh Adhamhnáin
Málainn
Seán Mac Cumhaill
Ard a' Rátha
Gaoth Dobhair
Na Cealla Beaga
Cill Chartha
Gleann tSuilí
I think the new format is working well. Great to see Malin through. Glenties need to have a good look at themselves. A few years back they looked like they were going to dominate and instead they have slipped further and further back.
Draw for Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals.
Group winners go into Drum A and Group Runners Up into Drum B.
Open Draw after that so it is possible to meet the one team in the draw who were in the same League Group stage.
Drum A Drum B
Naomh Adhamhnáin Málainn
Seán Mac Cumhaill Ard a' Rátha
Gaoth Dobhair Na Cealla Beaga
Cill Chartha Gleann tSuilí
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Gaoth Dobhair v Ard a' Rátha
Seán Mac Cumhaill v Na Cealla Beaga
Naomh Adhamhnáin v Málainn
Cill Chartha v Gleann tSuilí
Games to be played by Sunday 6th October.
Donegal Senior Football Championship Relegation Draw:
Cloch Cheann Fhaola v An Clochán Liath
Gleann Fhinne v Bun Dobhráin
The losing teams in these games play each other with the loser of that match going into the Intermediate Championship next year.
Quote from: drici on July 09, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
Donegal Senior Football Championship Relegation Draw:
Cloch Cheann Fhaola v An Clochán Liath
Gleann Fhinne v Bun Dobhráin
The losing teams in these games play each other with the loser of that match going into the Intermediate Championship next year.
That's like the Mayo system for the last 9 years. Fair enough too I suppose.
Quote from: drici on July 09, 2013, 11:41:03 AM
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Gaoth Dobhair v Ard a' Rátha
Seán Mac Cumhaill v Na Cealla Beaga
Naomh Adhamhnáin v Málainn
Cill Chartha v Gleann tSuilí
Games to be played by Sunday 6th October.
No one has taken the bait so far Drici.
For Donegal's sake they hope it will be October. But you'd never know.
QuoteFor Donegal's sake they hope it will be October. But you'd never know.
Probably not material to the Ulster Club championship in any case.
Armagh Senior Football Championship
Granemore St Marys 1-13 Armagh Harps 1-06
Whitecross St Killians 1-08 Cullyhanna St Patricks 2-08
Ballymacnab Round Towers 1-17 Culloville Blues 1-11
Pearse Óg 1-19 Dromintee St Patricks 1-09
Killeavy St Moninnas 0-09 Maghery Seán McDermotts 1-08
Quarter Finals:
Ballymacnab Round Towers v Granemore St Marys
Highmoss Sarsfields v Cullyhanna St Patricks
Crossmaglen Rangers v Pearse Óg
Carrickcruppen St Patricks v Maghery Seán MacDermotts
Quarter Final Replay Result:
Creggan 2-15 St Brigids 1-03
Four teams left in with a chance of a trip to meet the Donegal Champions on Sunday the 3rd of November.
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Creggan v Cargin
St Pauls v St Galls
Derry Senior Football Championship
Loup 1-13 Swatragh 2-06
Kilrea 0-15 Banagher 1-08
Castleblayney and Magheracloone are just starting Extra Time in Monaghan right now.
This is a knock on effect of Doohamlet and Carrickmacross drawing 1-17 After Extra Time earlier on.
QuoteCastleblayney and Magheracloone are just starting Extra Time in Monaghan right now.
Have they floodlights?
Quote from: armaghniac on August 31, 2013, 10:32:47 PM
QuoteCastleblayney and Magheracloone are just starting Extra Time in Monaghan right now.
Have they floodlights?
well either that or minors hats !
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Castleblayney 2-13 Magheracloone 2-14 A.E.T.
(Full Time: Castleblayney 1-13 Magheracloone 2-10)
Matches were in Inniskeen.
Just over.
QuoteCastleblayney 2-13 Magheracloone 2-14 A.E.T.
They'll have to reopen Oasis to celebrate that one.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 31, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
QuoteCastleblayney 2-13 Magheracloone 2-14 A.E.T.
They'll have to reopen Oasis to celebrate that one.
Banty will be delighted, Vanity full to the gills tonight
Derry Senior Football Championship
Ballinascreen 2-15 Steelstown 2-05
Slaughtneil 1-09 Glenullin 1-09
Extra Time to be played
Slaughtneil 1-10 v 1-11 Glenullin, AET
Skiiner caused most of the damage by the sounds of it
Draw to follow..........
when are the Tyrone representatives due to play in ulster?
saying there hasnt been a ball kicked in the senior championship yet, i would say its going to be tight to get it all played by mid october.
Intermediate draw in Derry...............
Oakleaf Furniture IFC Q/F: Ballymaguigan v Foreglen, Ballerin v Castledawson, Drumsurn v Slaughtmanus, Glen v Greenlough
Junior final..........
Doire Trasna Pearses v Ardmore
Doire QFs
Eoghan Rua v Loup, Dungiven v Ballinascreen, Ballinderry v Kilrea, Lavey v Glenullin.
Bring your weapons and shields to the Ballinderry and Kilrea game.
Those games are down for next weekend.
Down Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Draw:
Mayobridge v Loughinisland
Bryansford v Saval
Castlewellan v Burren
Kilcoo v Clonduff
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Latton 2-07 Rockcorry 0-07
Half Time
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Eglish 0-03 Greencastle 0-03
Half Time in the rain
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Latton 2-12 Rockcorry 1-13
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Eglish 2-10 Greencastle 0-11
Derry Senior Football Championship
Eoghan Rua 2-06 An Lúb 0-03
Half Time
Derry Senior Football Championship
Lavey 1-07 Glenullin 1-08
Half Time
Derry Senior Football Championship
Eoghan Rua 2-11 An Lúb 0-08
Derry Senior Football Championship
Lavey 2-14 Glenullin 2-12
Ft?
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 07, 2013, 05:13:02 PM
Ft?
Aye - if they disappear from the 1st post on the thread it's over.
Derry Senior Football Championship
Ballinderry 1-06 Kilrea 0-09
Half Time
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final
St Galls 0-05 St Pauls 1-01
Half Time
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Cúchulainns 0-04 Lavey 0-02
Half Time
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Clontibret 1-08 Scotstown An Bhoth 1-03
Half Time
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Ardboe 0-01 Trillick 0-03
Half Time
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final
St Galls 0-09 St Pauls 2-02
Derry Senior Football Championship
Ballinderry 1-15 Kilrea 0-11
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Cargin 0-01 Creggan 0-02
Half Time
Tight
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Cúchulainns 0-07 Lavey 0-10
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2013, 06:39:05 PM
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Ardboe 0-01 Trillick 0-03
Half Time
That is shocking! Any updates?
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Clontibret 1-12 Scotstown An Bhoth 1-09
Scotstown still in the back door.
Quote from: EC Unique on September 07, 2013, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2013, 06:39:05 PM
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Ardboe 0-01 Trillick 0-03
Half Time
That is shocking! Any updates?
Trillick 7 Ardboe 7 at FT
Derry Senior Football Championship
Dungiven 0-02 Ballinascreen 1-08
Half Time
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Roslea 1-06 Ederney 0-04
Half Time
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Cargin 0-05 Creggan 0-02
Cargin into the Final.
QuoteCargin 0-05 Creggan 0-02
I see they don't bother with the Tyrone blanket in Antrim. More like a quilt.
Derry Senior Football Championship
Dungiven 0-07 Ballinascreen 3-11
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Roslea 2-11 Ederney 1-08
Roslea into the Final.
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Finals Draw:
Ballinderry v Lavey
Ballinascreen v Eoghan Rua
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2013, 07:24:05 PM
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Clontibret 1-12 Scotstown An Bhoth 1-09
Scotstown still in the back door.
Great win, McManus was on fire, hit 1-8.
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Mullahoran 2-02 Gowna 0-05
Half Time
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Replay
Carrickmacross 0-05 Doohamlet 0-04
Half Time
Doohamlet down to 13.
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Mullahoran 4-13 Gowna 0-07
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Replay
Carrickmacross 0-07 Doohamlet 1-10
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Killygarry 1-02 Lacken 0-05
Half Time
Stephen McGovern with the goal.
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Ballybay Pearse Brothers 1-07 Monaghan Harps 0-06
Half Time
Harps down to 14
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Coalisland 1-04 Derrylaughan 0-05
Half Time
Goal from Brian Toner.
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Ballybay Pearse Brothers 2-12 Monaghan Harps 0-11
Harps still in the back door.
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Killygarry 1-07 Lacken 0-10
Bit of digging at the end
Extra Time to be played
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Coalisland 4-12 Derrylaughan 0-08
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Derrygonnelly Harps 0-04 Belcoo O'Rahillys 0-04
Half Time
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Killygarry 1-10 Lacken 0-13
After Extra Time
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Derrygonnelly Harps 0-09 Belcoo O'Rahillys 1-09
O'Rahillys through to play Roslea Shamrocks in the Final.
Cavan Senior Football Championship
Cavan Gaels 1-14 Kingscourt 1-11
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Belcoo 1-09 Derrygonnelly 0-09
Belcoo into the Final.
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Replay
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 0-10 Trillick St Macartans 2-09
Armagh Senior Football Championship
• Crossmaglen Rangers v Pearse Óg
The Armagh City side has annually been pinned as the main threat to the champion's ambitions and never more so than this year given the player plight of the title holders. In his second stint in charge "Big Joe" would never have envisaged going into Championship action without four of the mainstays of his squad absent. Oisin has retired; Jamie Clarke and David McKenna are stateside while James Morgan is out injured. That quartet all started against the Og's in the last Co Final with the city side also sporting numerous changes since that Championship encounter. Indeed only 8 Ciaran McKinney, Gerard Barton, Darnell Parkinson, Chris Rafferty, Conor Clarke, Paul Duffy, Marc Cullen and Sean Clarke from that beaten final team started in their 1-19 to 1-9 demolition of Dromintee in the last round.
Joe has also to contend with son Paul's absence from the full back position, an area of concern with Morgan missing also. But that will not phase Joe as he has plenty of ammunition to bolster his team with eldest son Stephen, Stephen Finnegan, Callum Cumiskey, Mel Boyce and Garvan Carragher all used as subs in their last Championship win over the Óg's. Throw in the mix the emerging Conor O'Neill and Kevin McShane coupled with the vast experience of Paul Hearty; Paul Hughes, Paul McKeown; Aaron Kernan, Brendan McKeown, Martin Ahern, Johnny Hanratty, Kyle Carragher, Tony Kernan , Aaron Cunningham, Kyle Brennan, Cross still look serious opposition for any club side.
The red card for leading marksman Conor Clarke against Dromintee will be a major blow to the challengers leaving the scoring onus on Marc Cullen (1-7 v Dromintee), Paul Duffy, Sean and Ros Clarke. Midfielders Chris Rafferty and Sean Moore will be up against a new partner for Rangers Johnny Hanratty with the absence of last year's skipper and this sector could prove pivotal for either sides chances.
But it is at the business end of things the performances of the respective full back lines that will decide this contest. Paul Hughes has emerged as a rising star at corner back with Paul McKeown expected to fill the number 3 jersey, the other corner could be manned by Stephen Finnegan, who fit and focused, is as good as what's in the County. In front of them curbing the influence of Aaron Kernan will be of utmost importance for the Og's as his match winning contributions and influence on the game is immense. Kyle Carragher is in tremendous form and is available to play despite his dismissal against St Brigid's (different competition). Stephen and Tony Kernan are proven matchwinners with an injury free Aaron Cunningham the ace in the hold for the champions now ready to deliver on a more consistent basis. Óg's new full back line with the experienced Gerard Barton flanked by Sean Gribben and Lee McGinley will face a stiff examination from Kernan, Carragher and Cumiskey.
The verdict is that the champions may be missing a few marquee players but their fabulous record is built on a hard work ethic and playing as a team. Cross has still enough quality and leaders in the team to step up to the plate when the chips are down. Rangers carry more forward power and despite all the players missing have better bench options than the opposition. With the whole country watching and waiting the message from the Athletic Grounds will be that we have not gone away.
• St. Patrick's v Sarsfields
St Pat's will be the first ones to hold up their hands and say that they are lucky to still be in the Championship following their 2-7 t0 1-8 victory over Whitecross. In the Championship the only thing that counts is the result, regardless as to how the game went, your name in the hat for the next round is all that matters and now pitted against Sarsfields the Cullyhanna boys will be eying a place in the last four.
With the writing on the wall, no score for over a half hour, trailing 1-8 to 1-5 the big players Ciaran McKeever and Robbie Tasker stood up to the plate to get Pat's over the line. Niall McShane ended the scoring drought, Tasker pointed a free then set up Aidan Nugent for his second goal of the game before impressive half-back Colm Hoey doubled his tally with the final point for a dramatic 2-7 to 1-8 win.
Sarsfields got a bye in the first round but finished off a very good League campaign with 8 wins and 2 draws from their 15 games in the Senior League. The Highmoss side have evolved into a good side since prevailing with a youthful policy a few years back. Their full forward line of Johnny Reynolds, Paul McGeown and Thomas McAlinden prove a handful for any teams' defence. Midfielders Brian Lavery and Eamon McGeown are a formidable duo capable of matching the best and their battle with McKeever and McConville will be very interesting. Mark Reynolds, Peter Stevenson and Paul Magee are key defenders.
Pat's will have free taker Eugene Casey back in action to boost their chances. Sarsfields will have generated their own confidence following their 1-11 to 1-9 League victory at Cullyhanna at the end of June. Having already used their get out of jail card a more focused St Pat's driven by the very talented Tasker to secure their place in the semis in what could be a bright, open, high scoring encounter.
• Ballymacnab v Granemore
Granemore caused the upset of the last round with a 1-13 to 1-6 victory over a fancied Armagh Harps outfit, with midfielders Kieran Toner and Brendan Boylan providing the platform for victory. Barry Toner top scored with unerring accuracy as he converted 7 frees and Caolan Rafferty rattled home a 22 minute goal which helped his team to a 10 point interval lead 1-9 to 0-2. Worrying for the winners will be their paltry 4 point second half return as the challengers reduced the deficit to 4 points before Granemore regained control culminating in a penalty save by keeper Kevin Kelly.
Ballymacnab saw a 9-4 half-time lead turned into 1-11 to 0-11 deficit with less than 10 minutes left on the clock in the last round against Culloville but a storming finish inspired by a Joe Gribben goal saw the 'Nab win through 1-17 to 1-11. Team Captain Brian McCone (0-7) was one of 5 forwards to score against Culloville with ironically Rory Grugan the odd man out. With substitutes Pauric Gribben and Brendan Toner able to add scores from the bench it is defensively that the question marks hang over Ballymacnab.
'Nab midfielders Gary and Tony McKee will have to get some change out of their exchanges with Toner and Boylan to curb the Rafferty's Ryan, Shane, Caolan, Declan Doyle and Chrissy O'Connor getting a run on their defence. The moving of Michael Began to the number 6 jersey has seen him blossom all year as a central defender with his other central partner Ruari Gribben solid as number 3
With both teams possessing good forwards this neighbourly encounter could provide us with the best contest of all four quarter finals. The key exchange for me is who will come out tops in the Tony McClelland, Brendan Doyle, Michael McKenna half-back line tilt with the lively 'Nab trio of Damian McGeown, Rory Grugan, Ryan Kennedy.
The strong physical stature of Granemore gives them a telling advantage which will be good enough to see them through to the last four in a very tight encounter with a draw worthy of a wee wager.
• Carrickcruppen v Maghery
Aidan, Stefan and Paul Forker the Maghery full forward line scored 1-7 of their 1-8 in overcoming Killeavy 1-8 to 0-9 in the last round. Center forward David Lavery got the winners other score as they led 1-3 to 0-5 at the short whistle. Conor Mackle, Stefan Cusack and Darragh McConville form a formidable Maghery half-back line who join the attack at will. Maghery are annually regarded as Championship contenders but fail to produce with in discipline their costly ally.
Carrickcruppen, given the talent at their disposal, are probably the biggest underachievers in the Senior ranks due to their very erratic form. On their day as proven in their last Championship outing a 1-16 to 3-7 semi-final loss to the champions 'Cruppen are capable of anything. At full strength and up to the task the Lowes Lane outfit are very strong down the middle from goalkeeper John McCullough, Barry Loughran, John Magill, Stephen Harold, BJ Padden, Paul Keenan, Declan Carville and Decky Monaghan not withstanding team captain halfback David Kelly, Conor Sloan and Seamus Kane.
This could be the fieriest of the four contests given the proven suspect temperaments of several of the participants. In the end it could boil down to the side that keeps the cooler head in the heat of battle. With their high profile League campaign in comparison to 'Cruppen's (although their League meeting saw the visitors record a one point 3-6 to 1-11 win over Maghery) the Loughshore men will be hotly fancied to reach the last four. I will go against the form book and plump for a 'Cruppen victory if they can garner any self-belief from their last Cßhampionship performance which showed that they are not that far off the mark.
Cross giving og's a hiding
Looks like rumours of their demise are premature
Quote from: naka on September 13, 2013, 09:11:54 PM
Cross giving og's a hiding
Looks like rumours of their demise are premature
Sure it's only September, there's no medals given out yet, Granemore fancy themselves this year.
Never mind granemore
So do maghery, cruppen and cullyhanna
Quote from: naka on September 13, 2013, 09:36:37 PM
Never mind granemore
So do maghery, cruppen and cullyhanna
And why wouldn't they.
Bc1 you probably won't like this but in the words of keegan
'I would love it if they ( well cruppen)do'
Quote from: naka on September 13, 2013, 10:05:51 PM
Bc1 you probably won't like this but in the words of keegan
'I would love it if they ( well cruppen)do'
Don't look too far ahead, the Lough Shore men aren't easy bate, it's the flies up there ye see, it makes them faster and nastier.
Was talking to a Maghery man the other night and he was telling me the football team got cursed by a priest years ago but recently another priest lifted the curse. So, get your money on Maghery.
Cross were slow to start, some dirty diesel in the tank. But Pearse Ogs didn't really get going at all, Maghery would hope to do a lot better.
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Crossmaglen Rangers 2-10 Pearse Óg 0-07
(made it 2-11 to 0-07 but scoreboard gave the above at the end)
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Carrickmore St Colmcilles 0-11 Cookstown Fr Rocks 0-06
Down Senior Football Championship
Bryansford 0-10 Saval 1-10
(a wee bit unexpected)
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Still haven't got to visit but Saval looks good.
In relation to the Cross game I think the referee missed a Cross point when a bit of a melee broke out at the other end of the pitch. A few Ogs fellas a bit frustrated about getting beat again!
Cavan Senior Football Championship Replay
Killygarry 0-11 Lacken 1-08
Extra Time to be played (again)
Tyrone Senior Footall Championship
Killyclogher 2-04 Moy 3-09
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Naomh Adhamhnáin 2-07 Málainn 3-12
Cavan Senior Football Championship Replay
Killygarry 0-15 Lacken 3-10
After Extra Time
Cavan Senior Footall Championship
Crosserlough 0-10 Lavey 0-07
Poor from Pearse Óg last night i expected better from them. Crossmaglen remain the team to beat in Ulster.
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Ballinderry 2-20 Lavey 0-11
Down Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Burren 1-14 Castlewellan 0-11
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Ballymacnab 1-08 Granemore 0-07
Quote from: drici on September 14, 2013, 08:30:43 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Ballymacnab 1-08 Granemore 0-07
Is that the final result?
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Seán Mac Cumhaill 2-07 Na Cealla Beaga 2-11
Quote from: drici on September 14, 2013, 08:30:43 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Ballymacnab 1-08 Granemore 0-07
big result for ballymacnab
fancy a pats/ cruppen double tomorrow
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Magheracloone 0-10 Doohamlet 0-06
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Cullyhanna 2-12 Sarsfields 1-11
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Cill Chartha 0-07 Gleann tSuilí 0-08
Gleann tSuilí join Málainn and Na Cealla Beaga in the Semi Finals.
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Clonoe 3-09 Omagh 1-08
Two goals from penalties for Clonoe who finish with 14.
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Scotstown An Bhoth 0-13 Latton 0-08
Down Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Mayobridge 3-08 Loughinisland 2-09
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Maghery 1-12 Carrickcruppen 0-05
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Crossmaglen Rangers v Maghery Seán MacDermotts
Ballymacnab Round Towers v Cullyhanna St Patricks
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Gaoth Dobhair 0-05 Ard a' Rátha 0-10
Tyrone Senior Football Championship
Dromore 0-07 Errigal Ciarán 0-07
Donegal Senior Football Championship Semi Finals
Ard a' Rátha v Gleann tSuilí
Na Cealla Beaga v Málainn
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Coleraine Eoghan Rua 0-06 Ballinascreen 0-06
Cavan Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Ramor United 0-09 Castlerahan 1-10
Down Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Kilcoo 2-17 Clonduff 0-05
Down Senior Football Championship Semi Finals Draw:
Kilcoo v Mayobridge
Saval v Burren
QuoteDown Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Kilcoo 2-17 Clonduff 0-05
Not much of the second year syndrome with Kilcoo, then.
Are those listed all half-time scores or what?
Cill Chartha 0-07 Gleann tSuilí 0-08
Gaoth Dobhair 0-05 Ard a' Rátha 0-10
Dromore 0-07 Errigal Ciarán 0-07
Coleraine Eoghan Rua 0-06 Ballinascreen 0-06
Quote from: Plain of the Herbs on September 18, 2013, 09:18:18 AM
Are those listed all half-time scores or what?
Ah - the old 'Toradh' above versus 'Sin é' below debate.
It was more to do with aggregate scores of 12, 14 and 15 points that raised my brow. Over 60 minutes! I am presuming these matches are at Senior grade, so
mea culpa if I am wrong on this. How long before we have a one-nil win, or a scoreless draw?
Quote from: drici on September 18, 2013, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: Plain of the Herbs on September 18, 2013, 09:18:18 AM
Are those listed all half-time scores or what?
Ah - the old 'Toradh' above versus 'Sin é' below debate.
Quote from: Plain of the Herbs on September 18, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
It was more to do with aggregate scores of 12, 14 and 15 points that raised my brow. Over 60 minutes! I am presuming these matches are at Senior grade, so mea culpa if I am wrong on this. How long before we have a one-nil win, or a scoreless draw?
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2013, 07:16:01 PM
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Cargin 0-01 Creggan 0-02
Half Time
Tight
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2013, 08:05:09 PM
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Cargin 0-05 Creggan 0-02
Cargin into the Final.
This Antrim match from page 5 is winning so far.
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Final Replay
Coleraine Eoghan Rua 1-03 Ballinascreen 2-02
Benny Heron 2-0 (2nd from a penalty) for 'Screen.
Ciarán Lagan goal for Eoghan Rua.
Half Time
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Final Replay
Coleraine Eoghan Rua 1-06 Ballinascreen 3-06
Benny Heron with the 3rd goal also.
Ballinascreen finish with 14.
Cavan Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Cavan Gaels 2-08 Mullahoran Dreadnoughts 1-08
Monaghan Senior Football Championship
Monaghan Harps 3-10 Magheracloone 0-13
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Carrickmore 2-08 Coalisland 2-06
Cavan Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Ballinagh 0-16 Lacken 1-09
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Replay
Dromore St Dympnas 1-09 Errigal Ciarán 1-13
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Errigal Ciarán 4-15 Augher 1-04
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Finals
Errigal Ciarán v Clonoe/Eglish
Moy/Trillick v Carrickmore
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Ballybay Pearse Brothers 2-09 Scotstown An Bhoth 3-13
Antrim Senior Football Championship Final
St Galls 0-12 Cargin Erin's Own 0-11
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Clontibret O'Neills 1-11 Monaghan Harps 1-11
Cavan Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Ballinagh 2-09 Crosserlough 1-10
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Moy 1-05 Trillick 0-05
Half Time
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Moy 1-05 Trillick 0-05
Still the same score early in 2nd Half.
15 minute delay forecast as they wait for an ambulance for an injured player.
Ambulance arrived.
You'd have thought the ambulance would be on standby in the ground, considering it's a Tyrone championship game.
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Moy 1-09 Trillick 0-09
Match eventually finishes.
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Clonoe 1-09 Eglish 0-04
Daniel McNulty 1-0
Half Time
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final
Clonoe 1-17 Eglish 0-08
Clonoe O'Rahillys through to Semi Final
Down Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Burren 7-16 Saval 0-09
Cavan Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Cavan Gaels 2-14 Castlerahan 0-07
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
Down Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Kilcoo 0-15 Mayobridge 2-07
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
Aye right, youse just won your 12th out of the last 13 titles!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
You're being shockingly disrespectful to your own club and the great All-Ireland winning players they have.
Quote from: ONeill on October 01, 2013, 10:54:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
You're being shockingly disrespectful to your own club and the great All-Ireland winning players they have.
Course
Anyone care to predict each of the county winners? I'll go with:
Antrim - St Gall's
Armagh - Crossmaglen
Cavan - Cavan Gaels
Derry - Ballinderry
Donegal - Glenswilly
Down - Burren
Fermanagh - Roslea
Monaghan - Clontibret
Tyrone - Clonoe
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-15 Maghery Seán MacDermotts 1-09
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Semi Final Replay
Clontibret O'Neills 2-13 Monaghan Harps 1-13
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
Quote from: Schkite on October 05, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
Correct
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Carrickmore 1-05 Moy 0-04
M Penrose 1-0
Half Time
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Carrickmore 3-09 Moy 0-09
M Donnelly and P McAleer with the 2nd Half goals
Carrickmore into the Final.
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Ballymacnab Round Towers 2-08 Cullyhanna St Patricks 0-07
Half Time
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Ballymacnab Round Towers 2-10 Cullyhanna St Patricks 1-14
A great 2nd Half recovery from Cullyhanna
Donegal Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Gleann tSuilí 1-14 Ard a' Rátha 0-16
Gleann tSuilí into their 4th Donegal Senior Championship Final.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 05, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
Correct
Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
Quote from: Schkite on October 06, 2013, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 05, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
Correct
Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Schkite on October 06, 2013, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 05, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
Correct
Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
blayney in 91
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People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
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Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
blayney in 91
22 Years ago!!
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People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
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Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
blayney in 91
22 Years ago!!
What's your point? It's longer since a Down club won it sure! And I don't care that they've been in recent finals, they were never winning those. At least a decade since a Tyrone or Derry club won it either. Look I'm not saying Clontibret/Scotstown should be one of the favourites or anything but aside from Cross I don't see much between the other teams on that side. As usual whoever is against Cross has their work cut out.
First things first, many clubs should worry about winning county championships before even considering beating Cross(or Cullyhanna for that matter!). Secondly as someone who knows a small bit about the club scene in Monaghan I would confidently say that if either Scotstown or Clontribet win they can give the Ulster a fair rattle,in fact I reckon if Scotstown can break their hoodoo this year they have all the tools in terms of players to go they whole way in Ulster. I would have no doubt they would beat any of the teams mentioned if their mindset is right if they beat Clontibret(which I think they will)
Still don't forgive the referee for blowing up the ulster club final in 79 3 minutes early to prevent the carrickcruppen comeback against scotstown.
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People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
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Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
blayney in 91
22 Years ago!!
What's your point? It's longer since a Down club won it sure! And I don't care that they've been in recent finals, they were never winning those. At least a decade since a Tyrone or Derry club won it either. Look I'm not saying Clontibret/Scotstown should be one of the favourites or anything but aside from Cross I don't see much between the other teams on that side. As usual whoever is against Cross has their work cut out.
Very rarely do teams come from nowhere to win Ulster lately, they are usually teams that have had a bit of form in the Ulster championship and to do so you need to be winning regularly your own County championship, I'm not putting teams down ffs, I just feel that the side of the draw where the Monaghan champions are in will be way too much.
Wild touchy down there in Monaghan, the bookies don't get a wild lo wrong
Donegal Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Málainn 1-07 Na Cealla Beaga 0-11
Bottom of Roinn 1 versus top of Roinn 2 in the Donegal Final.
Derry Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Ballinderry 3-10 Ballinascreen 2-07
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Final
Roslea 1-12 Belcoo 1-09
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Clonoe 1-16 Errigal Ciarán 1-10
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People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
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Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
blayney in 91
22 Years ago!!
What's your point? It's longer since a Down club won it sure! And I don't care that they've been in recent finals, they were never winning those. At least a decade since a Tyrone or Derry club won it either. Look I'm not saying Clontibret/Scotstown should be one of the favourites or anything but aside from Cross I don't see much between the other teams on that side. As usual whoever is against Cross has their work cut out.
Very rarely do teams come from nowhere to win Ulster lately, they are usually teams that have had a bit of form in the Ulster championship and to do so you need to be winning regularly your own County championship, I'm not putting teams down ffs, I just feel that the side of the draw where the Monaghan champions are in will be way too much.
Wild touchy down there in Monaghan, the bookies don't get a wild lo wrong
Mullaghbawn did it in 1995.
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People say that the Armagh championship is one-sided, but other counties seem to have one sided games also.
Ours wasn't, we only won by a point.
Glad we aren't in the otherside of the draw, though it will mean a one sided Ulster final, cause whoever gets out of draw with Cross, Ballinderry, Burren/Kilcool and the Tyrone champions will be odds on favs
No point in the Monaghan representatives showing up for their quarter final then!
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Aye, whatever ye think. Clontibret or Scotstown would fancy playing any of those teams with the possible exception of Cross.
I'm going on form, nothing else, when was the last Monaghan Ulster Club winners?
blayney in 91
22 Years ago!!
What's your point? It's longer since a Down club won it sure! And I don't care that they've been in recent finals, they were never winning those. At least a decade since a Tyrone or Derry club won it either. Look I'm not saying Clontibret/Scotstown should be one of the favourites or anything but aside from Cross I don't see much between the other teams on that side. As usual whoever is against Cross has their work cut out.
Very rarely do teams come from nowhere to win Ulster lately, they are usually teams that have had a bit of form in the Ulster championship and to do so you need to be winning regularly your own County championship, I'm not putting teams down ffs, I just feel that the side of the draw where the Monaghan champions are in will be way too much.
Wild touchy down there in Monaghan, the bookies don't get a wild lo wrong
Mullaghbawn did it in 1995.
You failed to highlight the very first part of the post funny enough,
VERY RARELY
We won in 96 and hadn't won the county title for the previous 10 years, Errigal won in 93 after their first county title, Dungiven won with no recent history, same as an Loup, Ballinderry hadn't won a county for six or so years when they won in 2002. In fact only St Galls and Bellaghy won Ulster in the last 20 years and had been consistently winning at county level.
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We won in 96 and hadn't won the county title for the previous 10 years, Errigal won in 93 after their first county title, Dungiven won with no recent history, same as an Loup, Ballinderry hadn't won a county for six or so years when they won in 2002. In fact only St Galls and Bellaghy won Ulster in the last 20 years and had been consistently winning at county level.
Yes but you had tradition, Errigal were like Mullaghbawn. Look at the teams that are usually in it over past 10 years, Ballinderry, yourselves, Cavan Gaels, Enniskillen Gales, Carrickmore had a run at it, and Mayobridge, It's Burren now. After a while it won't be us for a few seasons as we haven't much coming through. Likes of Loup and Dungiven won't be back for a while
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We won in 96 and hadn't won the county title for the previous 10 years, Errigal won in 93 after their first county title, Dungiven won with no recent history, same as an Loup, Ballinderry hadn't won a county for six or so years when they won in 2002. In fact only St Galls and Bellaghy won Ulster in the last 20 years and had been consistently winning at county level.
Yes but you had tradition, Errigal were like Mullaghbawn. Look at the teams that are usually in it over past 10 years, Ballinderry, yourselves, Cavan Gaels, Enniskillen Gales, Carrickmore had a run at it, and Mayobridge, It's Burren now. After a while it won't be us for a few seasons as we haven't much coming through. Likes of Loup and Dungiven won't be back for a while
Tradition or not in the last 20 years there have been 8 first time winners of the Championship. The only team to win it before who has won it in the period is Bellaghy. It is absolutely possible that a new team with the right attitude could do it. If you count tradition as a key then Scotstown are in a perfect position to make the breakthrough given their history of 4 Ulster titles.
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We won in 96 and hadn't won the county title for the previous 10 years, Errigal won in 93 after their first county title, Dungiven won with no recent history, same as an Loup, Ballinderry hadn't won a county for six or so years when they won in 2002. In fact only St Galls and Bellaghy won Ulster in the last 20 years and had been consistently winning at county level.
Yes but you had tradition, Errigal were like Mullaghbawn. Look at the teams that are usually in it over past 10 years, Ballinderry, yourselves, Cavan Gaels, Enniskillen Gales, Carrickmore had a run at it, and Mayobridge, It's Burren now. After a while it won't be us for a few seasons as we haven't much coming through. Likes of Loup and Dungiven won't be back for a while
Tradition or not in the last 20 years there have been 8 first time winners of the Championship. The only team to win it before who has won it in the period is Bellaghy. It is absolutely possible that a new team with the right attitude could do it. If you count tradition as a key then Scotstown are in a perfect position to make the breakthrough given their history of 4 Ulster titles.
Yes they could, but I'm not trying to blow smoke up people holes ffs, the odds are stacked against them, I'd love to see the underdogs winning titles, but it doesn't happen that much, Good luck to both Clontibret or Scotstown in the final and in Ulster.
The winners in that side of the draw will have played some good teams and will be best prepared for the final, I hope we do well but we aren't playing well at all lately, load of challenge games laid on so hopefully get back on track
Milltown, all my original point was was that Clontibret or Scotstown have as much a chance as any other team on that side imo aside from Cross, as usual they are the benchmark. I'm from Clontibret myself, and I'm far from trying to build up the team alot but we've had Ulster club experience, and as bc1 says if you're talking about tradition, Scotstown have it in spades. Obviously it will be very tough for either team to reach the final, and I might have took you up wrong, but I just thought it was a bit dismissive to list all the teams apart from the Monaghan teams. I realise this probably sounds a bit oversensitive at this stage and it's been overblown but I just thought I'd explain!
Anyway all this talk of Ulster is very premature from a Monaghan pov. Obviously I hope we can do the job on Sunday but it'll be extremely difficult. Scotstown are seriously fired up for it, it's now 20 years since their last win which is too long for the likes of them. Promises to a good match for the neutral anyway!
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Milltown, all my original point was was that Clontibret or Scotstown have as much a chance as any other team on that side imo aside from Cross, as usual they are the benchmark. I'm from Clontibret myself, and I'm far from trying to build up the team alot but we've had Ulster club experience, and as bc1 says if you're talking about tradition, Scotstown have it in spades. Obviously it will be very tough for either team to reach the final, and I might have took you up wrong, but I just thought it was a bit dismissive to list all the teams apart from the Monaghan teams. I realise this probably sounds a bit oversensitive at this stage and it's been overblown but I just thought I'd explain!
Anyway all this talk of Ulster is very premature from a Monaghan pov. Obviously I hope we can do the job on Sunday but it'll be extremely difficult. Scotstown are seriously fired up for it, it's now 20 years since their last win which is too long for the likes of them. Promises to a good match for the neutral anyway!
Yeah I hope ya's do well, we played the Monaghan champions a while back and bar a couple of mistakes could have beaten us in Armagh. That's the way it goes, having won Ulster this year there is bound to be some spring in the players steps I'd say
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Milltown, all my original point was was that Clontibret or Scotstown have as much a chance as any other team on that side imo aside from Cross, as usual they are the benchmark. I'm from Clontibret myself, and I'm far from trying to build up the team alot but we've had Ulster club experience, and as bc1 says if you're talking about tradition, Scotstown have it in spades. Obviously it will be very tough for either team to reach the final, and I might have took you up wrong, but I just thought it was a bit dismissive to list all the teams apart from the Monaghan teams. I realise this probably sounds a bit oversensitive at this stage and it's been overblown but I just thought I'd explain!
Anyway all this talk of Ulster is very premature from a Monaghan pov. Obviously I hope we can do the job on Sunday but it'll be extremely difficult. Scotstown are seriously fired up for it, it's now 20 years since their last win which is too long for the likes of them. Promises to a good match for the neutral anyway!
Yeah I hope ya's do well, we played the Monaghan champions a while back and bar a couple of mistakes could have beaten us in Armagh. That's the way it goes, having won Ulster this year there is bound to be some spring in the players steps I'd say
In fairness yous gave us a good beating that day! We had a few early chances that weren't taken, and then there was no stopping yous when ye got in your stride. Similar to against Cross before that, we were meeting a team in great form on route to the AI title. That's the way it goes though, no easy games in Ulster.
Having watched Cross this year this will be the best chance in a while for another team to win Ulster. I think Cross are down too many top players at the minute. Morgan, Paul Kernan, McKenna and Clarke did not play Friday and Oisin has quit. No team can be the same missing players of that quality.
QuoteMorgan, Paul Kernan, McKenna and Clarke
If you had those 4 players and some of the Cross subs, you'd have the makings of a decent team!
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Final
Clontibret 0-07 Scotstown 2-16
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Final
Clonoe 3-08 Carrickmore 0-12
Cavan Senior Football Championship Final
Cavan Gaels 0-11 Ballinagh 0-12
http://ballinaghgaa.com/history.aspx
1960 - Unplayed Championship Final
In 1960 Ballinagh Club affiliated a Senior team and in the first round were drawn against defending champions Virginia. Ballinagh emerged victorious and went on to play Cornafean and this was where the trouble started. Cornafean had defeated Cavan Gaels in round one but a subsequent objection meant the Ballinagh v Cornafean game had to be postponed pending the outcome of the Gaels objection.
The final had been fixed for Sep 4th at that years Convention but a bye-law in the County also stated that any team would be granted two clear weeks between their Semi and the Final. The objection was withdrawn near the end of August and Ballinagh played and defeated Cornafean on the 28th of August, thus qualifying to play Bailieboro in the final. Ballinagh had three injuries after the match and knew they were to lose other players who had to travel abroad, so they deceided to invoke the bye law giving them two weeks grace.
Bailieboro objected strongly and wouldn't agree to a refixturing of the game. At the next County Board Meeting on Nov 14th the Bailieboro position hadn't changed and they made it clear they thought they should be awarded the game, even though Ballinagh were prepared to pay the game at any time even the following summer. Bailieboro were duly awarded the match.
Ballinagh lodged an appeal with the Ulster Council and they ordered the county board to refix the final. Bailieboro wouldn't agree to the refixture and were suspended for 6 Months. Ballinagh were declared champions but declined to accept trophies the team had not played for.
Sean and Seamus Quigley both got straight red cards for Roslea in their league semi final against Devenish. That should rule them out of Rosleas first round ulster club game.
Ha jaysus, Ballinagh should make the next round so.
Ballinagh's first Senior Championship?? Fair play to them
Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
Don't let Milltownrow2 see that or he'll go all nuclear on ye :P
Awful day today in Clones today from a Clontibret perspective - I should start this though by saying congratulations to Scotstown, they were superb and fully deserved their big victory, and I wish them all the best in Ulster.
We really didn't help ourselves though. Most of our players didn't seem up for it, Scotstown were first to most balls and were quicker to them, we had some awful passing and shot selection. It was one of those days where nothing seemed to go right. Scotstown went a few points up and flooded the defence, putting a permanent sweeper in front of McManus, while we didn't use the extra man at the other end. We were absolutely cleaned at midfield and there was nothing done about it, no quick or short ones at all. Then when Scotstown broke at pace there was no answer for them. McManus is the best forward in the county, and showed what he could given the amount of men that were around him at all times, but we've very little else up front, and they knew it. All they had to do was cover him and we had no answer for this either. Then it all went wrong when our keeper went off injured, and our young sub keeper was under pressure from the off and made a couple of unfortunate errors, I really feel for the young lad. When the first goal went in, the game was over with 20 minutes left with the way we were playing. The two goals only widened the margin though, we were well beat even without them.
Again though, full credit to Scotstown, they outfought us in every department. It was clear to see who was the team who hadn't won in 20 years, you can't replicate that kind of hunger. And it was a real team performance, the Hughes brothers weren't even among the top players, best for me were Carey, McCarthy and Morgan who was exceptional throughout. Naturally after 20 years they'll have big celebrations, but if they can refocus for Ulster in a few weeks and go at it with the same intensity they'll have a right old rattle at it.
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
Don't let Milltownrow2 see that or he'll go all nuclear on ye :P
Have to say after watching that game today I was impressed with Scotstown and your opinion of them was correct BC1. Hey as you say on the day (based on that performance) they would be a challenge to most teams in Ulster, great forward line and the the defence didn't let up either, Thought Clontibret were over reliant on McManus, class act but couldn't do it on his own, they could have lost 2/3 players during that match such was their recklessness.
All hotting up nicely
A summary of those left I believe:
Antrim = St Galls
Armagh = Cross / Cullyhanna
Cavan = Ballinagh
Derry = Ballinderry
Down = Burren / Kilcoo
Donegal = Glenswilly / Killybegs
Fermanagh = Roslea
Monaghan = Scotstown
Tyrone = Clonoe
Quarter final draw:
Ballinderry / Clonoe v Scotstown
Burren / Kilcoo v Cross / Cullyhanna
Glenswilly / Killybegs v St Galls
Ballinagh v Roslea
So who is going to win the ulster club? Can we break these teams into 3 categories:
No chance - Clonoe / Cullyhanna / Ballinagh / Glenswilly / Killybegs / Kilcoo
A glimmer of a chance - Scotstown / Ballinderry / Roslea / Cross
Realistic contenders for ulster & AI = Burren / St Galls
I fancy Burren to come good this year and make the most of Crossmaglen's absentees
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
Ah right. I didn't see the minor final. Yes, looks good. Nice skills base to work from.
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
No reply to regal BC1? Plotting Cross's downfall ffs
Cross is the best team in Ulster, but two thirds of the Cross team is probably not in The top three.
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
No reply to regal BC1? Plotting Cross's downfall ffs
Will worry about that after Sunday!!!
Quote from: armaghniac on October 14, 2013, 02:59:19 PM
Cross is the best team in Ulster, but two thirds of the Cross team is probably not in The top three.
Ok with lads out and boys injured, will they have enough to beat Cullyhana? When will the lads injured/holiday make it back? Be a serious dent to any team to lose such players but they have handled the O'gs and other teams so far.
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Surprised by regal's picks.
Clonoe, Kilcoo, Roslea, Ballinderry, Cross, Burren all in the wrong category for me. Possibly St.Galls too.
If we play well, we could beat the Donegal champions in Donegal. That sets up a game against either Cavan's newest champions and Roslea. Bookies will have us favs to reach final, but we aren't firing on all cylinders, I even caught Sean Kelly having a bottle of beer!!!
The other side of the draw will be a war of attrition, whoever comes through to the final will have had to work hard to get there, some cracking games to watch, and I can't see any wide winning margins in them
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Surprised by regal's picks.
Clonoe, Kilcoo, Roslea, Ballinderry, Cross, Burren all in the wrong category for me. Possibly St.Galls too.
If we play well, we could beat the Donegal champions in Donegal. That sets up a game against either Cavan's newest champions and Roslea. Bookies will have us favs to reach final, but we aren't firing on all cylinders, I even caught Sean Kelly having a bottle of beer!!!
The other side of the draw will be a war of attrition, whoever comes through to the final will have had to work hard to get there, some cracking games to watch, and I can't see any wide winning margins in them
You boys will coast it to the final. Donegal clubs are traditionally weak. Roslea have lost 2 key players and probably won't get past Ballinagh. Ballinagh are in Ulster for the first time after winning their first championship and we now that teams rarely come from nowhere to win the Ulster championship so they can be discounted. It is set up nicely for you boys to build up nicely and play a team that has come through 2( or maybe even 3 if it is Clonoe or Ballinderry) to tough, attritional games with the likelihood of having lost a few players to injury suspension.
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Surprised by regal's picks.
Clonoe, Kilcoo, Roslea, Ballinderry, Cross, Burren all in the wrong category for me. Possibly St.Galls too.
If we play well, we could beat the Donegal champions in Donegal. That sets up a game against either Cavan's newest champions and Roslea. Bookies will have us favs to reach final, but we aren't firing on all cylinders, I even caught Sean Kelly having a bottle of beer!!!
The other side of the draw will be a war of attrition, whoever comes through to the final will have had to work hard to get there, some cracking games to watch, and I can't see any wide winning margins in them
You boys will coast it to the final. Donegal clubs are traditionally weak. Roslea have lost 2 key players and probably won't get past Ballinagh. Ballinagh are in Ulster for the first time after winning their first championship and we now that teams rarely come from nowhere to win the Ulster championship so they can be discounted. It is set up nicely for you boys to build up nicely and play a team that has come through 2( or maybe even 3 if it is Clonoe or Ballinderry) to tough, attritional games with the likelihood of having lost a few players to injury suspension.
I'd say all the teams in the other side of the draw would like that pathway but the teams in our side of the draw will be glad they don't have to meet Ballinderry, Burren, Cross Clonoe so will be seeking to get to the Ulster final also
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
While McManus probably should get an all-star I doubt he will. They would have needed to get to the AI semi at least (with him performing well on the day)
McCarthy was the standout Monaghan performer on a minor team that didn't do themselves justice on the day against mayo - scored a cracking goal and a few lovely points. I think he has only just started playing senior as well. A bright future ahead of him.
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
While McManus probably should get an all-star I doubt he will. They would have needed to get to the AI semi at least (with him performing well on the day)
McCarthy was the standout Monaghan performer on a minor team that didn't do themselves justice on the day against mayo - scored a cracking goal and a few lovely points. I think he has only just started playing senior as well. A bright future ahead of him.
Didn't see the game yesterday but was impressed with McCarthy playing with Monaghan Minors. Do you reckon he will be drafted into the Senior Panel next year or has he another year Minor?
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
While McManus probably should get an all-star I doubt he will. They would have needed to get to the AI semi at least (with him performing well on the day)
McCarthy was the standout Monaghan performer on a minor team that didn't do themselves justice on the day against mayo - scored a cracking goal and a few lovely points. I think he has only just started playing senior as well. A bright future ahead of him.
Didn't see the game yesterday but was impressed with McCarthy playing with Monaghan Minors. Do you reckon he will be drafted into the Senior Panel next year or has he another year Minor?
Don't think he's a minor next year and I suppose the old "if you're good enough you're old enough" rule applies. A full forward line of himself, hughes and McManus next year would be as good as anything else in Ulster
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Thought scotstown were impressive today and they could well be one to watch in ulster this year. Good spread of forwards (which was clontibrets downfall - they only had McManus)
McManus is a class act though. He moves so smoothly and kicks very well off both feet. I hope he gets his All Star this year. Scotstown were far better as a team though, and they had some nice forwards as you say. Who was that #15? He looked fairly tidy and efficient, with a stylish left foot as well.
Conor McCarthy was the no 15. He was the corner forward on the Monaghan minor team who showed up strongly against Mayo in the AI. He is a very talented lad and is a real star in the making.
While McManus probably should get an all-star I doubt he will. They would have needed to get to the AI semi at least (with him performing well on the day)
McCarthy was the standout Monaghan performer on a minor team that didn't do themselves justice on the day against mayo - scored a cracking goal and a few lovely points. I think he has only just started playing senior as well. A bright future ahead of him.
Didn't see the game yesterday but was impressed with McCarthy playing with Monaghan Minors. Do you reckon he will be drafted into the Senior Panel next year or has he another year Minor?
Don't think he's a minor next year and I suppose the old "if you're good enough you're old enough" rule applies. A full forward line of himself, hughes and McManus next year would be as good as anything else in Ulster
It's a bit premature to be thinking about McCarthy starting for Monaghan just yet, but he's one for the future no doubt. That was only his second championship game for Scotstown yesterday I believe, and he performed on the big day. And as was said he was the only Monaghan minor forward to turn up against Mayo in Croke Park. I'd definitely be in favour of him getting a call up to the panel, and sure if he impresses in the McKenna Cup and subsequently the League and works his way into the team, then he'll have earned it.
But you still have the likes of Christopher McGuinness there vying for that corner-forward spot, and he's a few years of senior championship football under his belt. I also expect to see alot more of Jack McCarron(son of all-star Ray) next year, he was a late sub against Tyrone and he's coming along nicely. It's definitely encouraging to see a promising young forward like McCarthy coming through though, at times we'd little coming through in that area. There were a few good forwards on the county minor team this year, Fergal McMahon is another and he did well for Monaghan Harps in the semi-final against Clontibret when we only edged them out after a replay. McCarthy looks to be the best equipped for the step up to senior level though, as his performance yesterday suggests.
McBrearty, Murphy, McFadden hard to beat in Ireland never mind ulster...
I thought the 11 for scotstown very useful too. McCarthy very good but tended to turn back onto his left a bit too much which county players would soon be wise too. (Corey got wise to it but possibly just wasn't quick enough). Definitely looks to have a lot of potential though. Scotstown could be hard to beat as they didn't seem too reliant on county players too.
I was surprised how much better scotstown were but I think it was a combination of everything going right for them and everything wrong for clontibret.
Did McGleenan say they're good children when describing his team afterwards??
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It's a bit premature to be thinking about McCarthy starting for Monaghan just yet, but he's one for the future no doubt. That was only his second championship game for Scotstown yesterday I believe, and he performed on the big day. And as was said he was the only Monaghan minor forward to turn up against Mayo in Croke Park. I'd definitely be in favour of him getting a call up to the panel, and sure if he impresses in the McKenna Cup and subsequently the League and works his way into the team, then he'll have earned it.
But you still have the likes of Christopher McGuinness there vying for that corner-forward spot, and he's a few years of senior championship football under his belt. I also expect to see alot more of Jack McCarron(son of all-star Ray) next year, he was a late sub against Tyrone and he's coming along nicely. It's definitely encouraging to see a promising young forward like McCarthy coming through though, at times we'd little coming through in that area. There were a few good forwards on the county minor team this year, Fergal McMahon is another and he did well for Monaghan Harps in the semi-final against Clontibret when we only edged them out after a replay. McCarthy looks to be the best equipped for the step up to senior level though, as his performance yesterday suggests.
Know he is not in first flush of youth but is Tommy Freeman not considered a starting option anymore ?
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It's a bit premature to be thinking about McCarthy starting for Monaghan just yet, but he's one for the future no doubt. That was only his second championship game for Scotstown yesterday I believe, and he performed on the big day. And as was said he was the only Monaghan minor forward to turn up against Mayo in Croke Park. I'd definitely be in favour of him getting a call up to the panel, and sure if he impresses in the McKenna Cup and subsequently the League and works his way into the team, then he'll have earned it.
But you still have the likes of Christopher McGuinness there vying for that corner-forward spot, and he's a few years of senior championship football under his belt. I also expect to see alot more of Jack McCarron(son of all-star Ray) next year, he was a late sub against Tyrone and he's coming along nicely. It's definitely encouraging to see a promising young forward like McCarthy coming through though, at times we'd little coming through in that area. There were a few good forwards on the county minor team this year, Fergal McMahon is another and he did well for Monaghan Harps in the semi-final against Clontibret when we only edged them out after a replay. McCarthy looks to be the best equipped for the step up to senior level though, as his performance yesterday suggests.
Know he is not in first flush of youth but is Tommy Freeman not considered a starting option anymore ?
In a word, no. He was only used in cameo appearance this year and I don't think that'll change. Time waits for no man. He doesn't have quite the same pace as he had but is a great experienced option to take off the bench if needed. It remains to be seen if he stays on though, especially given that he's not a first choice starter anymore. I heard him say after the Ulster final that he was glad he gave it "one more year", so who knows.
For me, a lot depends on the availability of Crossmaglen's injured/missing players.
Even with the current players missing they'd be my favourites against every team still left in the competition.
If they get a full squad or at least near full strength I'd fancy them to retain their title, with the main contenders being Burren, St Gall's and Scotstown as darkhorses.
Going to head down to Ballybofey on the sat night (2nd), maybe stay in Jacksons, will the game be defo on and no f**king about due to the International rules?
Crossmaglen Rangers to represent Armagh this year.
Ballinderry were by far better team against Clonoe. 4 points flattered Clonoe, Ballinderry just had a bit too much all over the pitch for them!
Crossmaglen overcame a tame enough challenge from Cullyhanna this evening.
Close enough in the early exchanges but as the game wore on so did the gap between the sides.
It's amazing how Cross can cope having many key men out. Their younger lads really stepped up to the plate, where other teams would be lost at sea losing players of the calibre of J. Clarke.
Cullyhanna have some outstanding individuals but I wouldn't even have them in the top 3 in the county so tonight was pretty much a foregone conclusion, albeit many people expected it to be much closer. The effortlessness with which Cross can open up big leads in the space of a few minutes is truly amazing. With Kilcoo squeezing past Burren in Down, there's a cracker in store in Newry in two weeks time!
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Crossmaglen overcame a tame enough challenge from Cullyhanna this evening.
Close enough in the early exchanges but as the game wore on so did the gap between the sides.
It's amazing how Cross can cope having many key men out. Their younger lads really stepped up to the plate, where other teams would be lost at sea losing players of the calibre of J. Clarke.
Cullyhanna have some outstanding individuals but I wouldn't even have them in the top 3 in the county so tonight was pretty much a foregone conclusion, albeit many people expected it to be much closer. The effortlessness with which Cross can open up big leads in the space of a few minutes is truly amazing. With Kilcoo squeezing past Burren in Down, there's a cracker in store in Newry in two weeks time!
Like a home fixture for Cross ;)
There was only one shock and that was Burren getting beat by Kilcoo. Fair play to them and they will have learnt form last year, but Cross again should have too much for them again
Would have had the Down final as a 50/50 game so not that big a shock, though I had fancied Burren myself, so fair play to Kilcoo.
Agree that it should be another formality for Cross but Kilcoo will probably pose a lot more problems than last time round; can't see Cross getting another 11 point lead.
Quote from: general_lee on October 20, 2013, 08:10:19 PM
Would have had the Down final as a 50/50 game so not that big a shock, though I had fancied Burren myself, so fair play to Kilcoo.
Agree that it should be another formality for Cross but Kilcoo will probably pose a lot more problems than last time round; can't see Cross getting another 11 point lead.
As already mentioned Cross have the ability to rack up a big score in games very quickly. The key to competing with that is to limit their big scores during that dominance they always get in a game. Easier said that done, must be only a handfull of teams in Ireland that have actually beat this Cross team, who are they?
Cross have played 34 senior finals since 1996 (17 Armagh,10 Ulster and 7 All Ireland) they have lost only one of these, the 2009 AI final to Kilmacud Crokes.Phenomenal record.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 20, 2013, 08:39:43 PM
Cross have played 34 senior finals since 1996 (17 Armagh,10 Ulster and 7 All Ireland) they have lost only one of these, the 2009 AI final to Kilmacud Crokes.Phenomenal record.
Pearse Ogs beat them and they were beat in semi last year...
Quote from: hardstation on October 20, 2013, 08:41:46 PM
He said finals milltown.
I didn't, so he was responding to my post, so fcuk off ;)
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Would have had the Down final as a 50/50 game so not that big a shock, though I had fancied Burren myself, so fair play to Kilcoo.
Agree that it should be another formality for Cross but Kilcoo will probably pose a lot more problems than last time round; can't see Cross getting another 11 point lead.
As already mentioned Cross have the ability to rack up a big score in games very quickly. The key to competing with that is to limit their big scores during that dominance they always get in a game. Easier said that done, must be only a handfull of teams in Ireland that have actually beat this Cross team, who are they?
Maghery kept them scoreless for around 20 mins in the semifinal the other week, that in itself is an achievement!
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Would have had the Down final as a 50/50 game so not that big a shock, though I had fancied Burren myself, so fair play to Kilcoo.
Agree that it should be another formality for Cross but Kilcoo will probably pose a lot more problems than last time round; can't see Cross getting another 11 point lead.
As already mentioned Cross have the ability to rack up a big score in games very quickly. The key to competing with that is to limit their big scores during that dominance they always get in a game. Easier said that done, must be only a handfull of teams in Ireland that have actually beat this Cross team, who are they?
Maghery kept them scoreless for around 20 mins in the semifinal the other week, that in itself is an achievement!
Were 15 of those minutes half time by chance?
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A summary of those left I believe:
Antrim = St Galls
Armagh = Cross / Cullyhanna
Cavan = Ballinagh
Derry = Ballinderry
Down = Burren / Kilcoo
Donegal = Glenswilly / Killybegs
Fermanagh = Roslea
Monaghan = Scotstown
Tyrone = Clonoe
Quarter final draw:
Ballinderry / Clonoe v Scotstown
Burren / Kilcoo v Cross / Cullyhanna
Glenswilly / Killybegs v St Galls
Ballinagh v Roslea
So who is going to win the ulster club? Can we break these teams into 3 categories:
No chance - Clonoe / Cullyhanna / Ballinagh / Glenswilly / Killybegs / Kilcoo
A glimmer of a chance - Scotstown / Ballinderry / Roslea / Cross
Realistic contenders for ulster & AI = Burren / St Galls
I fancy Burren to come good this year and make the most of Crossmaglen's absentees
Fair play to Kilcoo. Despite the money Burren throw at it they don't seem to have the same drive in them as previous eras.
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Quote from: regal on October 14, 2013, 11:00:07 AM
A summary of those left I believe:
Antrim = St Galls
Armagh = Cross / Cullyhanna
Cavan = Ballinagh
Derry = Ballinderry
Down = Burren / Kilcoo
Donegal = Glenswilly / Killybegs
Fermanagh = Roslea
Monaghan = Scotstown
Tyrone = Clonoe
Quarter final draw:
Ballinderry / Clonoe v Scotstown
Burren / Kilcoo v Cross / Cullyhanna
Glenswilly / Killybegs v St Galls
Ballinagh v Roslea
So who is going to win the ulster club? Can we break these teams into 3 categories:
No chance - Clonoe / Cullyhanna / Ballinagh / Glenswilly / Killybegs / Kilcoo
A glimmer of a chance - Scotstown / Ballinderry / Roslea / Cross
Realistic contenders for ulster & AI = Burren / St Galls
I fancy Burren to come good this year and make the most of Crossmaglen's absentees
Fair play to Kilcoo. Despite the money Burren throw at it they don't seem to have the same drive in them as previous eras.
No easy games from here on in!! All teams will expect to do well against the teams they are playing
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A summary of those left I believe:
Antrim = St Galls
Armagh = Cross / Cullyhanna
Cavan = Ballinagh
Derry = Ballinderry
Down = Burren / Kilcoo
Donegal = Glenswilly / Killybegs
Fermanagh = Roslea
Monaghan = Scotstown
Tyrone = Clonoe
Quarter final draw:
Ballinderry / Clonoe v Scotstown
Burren / Kilcoo v Cross / Cullyhanna
Glenswilly / Killybegs v St Galls
Ballinagh v Roslea
So who is going to win the ulster club? Can we break these teams into 3 categories:
No chance - Clonoe / Cullyhanna / Ballinagh / Glenswilly / Killybegs / Kilcoo
A glimmer of a chance - Scotstown / Ballinderry / Roslea / Cross
Realistic contenders for ulster & AI = Burren / St Galls
I fancy Burren to come good this year and make the most of Crossmaglen's absentees
Fair play to Kilcoo. Despite the money Burren throw at it they don't seem to have the same drive in them as previous eras.
No easy games from here on in!! All teams will expect to do well against the teams they are playing
You're starting to sound like me!!!! You boys have a clear run to the final, Glenswilly would be your only threat and you should deal with them comfortably. I reckon the winners of Scotstown and Ballinderry will be the eventual winners.
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Quote from: regal on October 14, 2013, 11:00:07 AM
A summary of those left I believe:
Antrim = St Galls
Armagh = Cross / Cullyhanna
Cavan = Ballinagh
Derry = Ballinderry
Down = Burren / Kilcoo
Donegal = Glenswilly / Killybegs
Fermanagh = Roslea
Monaghan = Scotstown
Tyrone = Clonoe
Quarter final draw:
Ballinderry / Clonoe v Scotstown
Burren / Kilcoo v Cross / Cullyhanna
Glenswilly / Killybegs v St Galls
Ballinagh v Roslea
So who is going to win the ulster club? Can we break these teams into 3 categories:
No chance - Clonoe / Cullyhanna / Ballinagh / Glenswilly / Killybegs / Kilcoo
A glimmer of a chance - Scotstown / Ballinderry / Roslea / Cross
Realistic contenders for ulster & AI = Burren / St Galls
I fancy Burren to come good this year and make the most of Crossmaglen's absentees
Fair play to Kilcoo. Despite the money Burren throw at it they don't seem to have the same drive in them as previous eras.
No easy games from here on in!! All teams will expect to do well against the teams they are playing
You're starting to sound like me!!!! You boys have a clear run to the final, Glenswilly would be your only threat and you should deal with them comfortably. I reckon the winners of Scotstown and Ballinderry will be the eventual winners.
;D ;D
This was handy!! ;)
What were they sent of for?
QuoteRoslea duo cleared to play in Ulster club championship
Roslea brothers Sean and Seamus Quigley are available to play in the Ulster club championship after having their suspensions overturned on appeal.
Both men were sent-off in the league play-off defeat to Devenish, which ruled them out of the Fermanagh club champions' Ulster quarter-final tie against Cavan champions Ballinagh.
However their red cards have been rescinded by Fermanagh chiefs.
That clears them to play in the Ulster clash at Brewster Park on 3 November.
Im open to correction but i think Sean was sent off for striking his opponent (in retaliation to being struck himself i think), Seamus sent off after, not sure if it was for the handbags that followed or abuse of the ref......
Am told their father afterwards told the Ref he was going to shoot him!!!
Anyway now they are available, id fancy them to beat Ballinagh......
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This was handy!! ;)
What were they sent of for?
QuoteRoslea duo cleared to play in Ulster club championship
Roslea brothers Sean and Seamus Quigley are available to play in the Ulster club championship after having their suspensions overturned on appeal.
Both men were sent-off in the league play-off defeat to Devenish, which ruled them out of the Fermanagh club champions' Ulster quarter-final tie against Cavan champions Ballinagh.
However their red cards have been rescinded by Fermanagh chiefs.
That clears them to play in the Ulster clash at Brewster Park on 3 November.
Yes Sean sent off for striking and Seamus apparently called the ref a clown when Sean seen red. I heard the Devinish player involved in Seans sending off sent an email to be read out at Seans appeal backing him. That would have helped his case alot I would imagine.
Quote from: Ultán on October 24, 2013, 02:33:20 PM
Yes Sean sent off for striking and Seamus apparently called the ref a clown when Sean seen red. I heard the Devinish player involved in Seans sending off sent an email to be read out at Seans appeal backing him. That would have helped his case alot I would imagine.
Or the fact that Fermanaghs representatives in Ulster would be fcuked had these two players not been available?? Just a theory ;)
Donegal Senior Football Championship Final
Gleann tSuilí 3-19 Na Cealla Beaga 2-06
Down Senior Football Championship Final
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua 0-09 Burren St Marys 0-07
Armagh Senior Football Championship Final
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-17 Cullyhanna St Patricks 0-08
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 0-14 Clonoe O'Rahillys(Tyrone) 0-10
Celtic Park
Scorers
Ballinderry: R Bell 0-4 (1f), A Devlin 0-3, C Gilligan 0-2, D McKinless, D McGuckin, C Devlin , C Nevin, D Lawn 0-1 each.
Clonoe: D McNulty 0-4 (1f), C McAlickey 0-3 (3f), PJ Lavery 0-2, RT O'Neill 0-1.
Teams
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: E Muldoon for Lawn (42), D Conway for D McKinless (56), M Harney for Wilson (60), Kevin M McGuckin for J Conway (62).
Clonoe M O'Neill; D Quinn, A Brady, C O'Neill; J McClure, S McCann, PJ Lavery; S McNulty, S O'Hagan; R T O'Neill, C Doris, P Doris; P Coney, D McNulty, C McAliskey. Subs: G Coney for S McCann (13), R R O'Neill for P Doris (44), D McClure for C McAliskey (52), S Hughes for J McClure (58).
Referee M Higgins (Fermanagh)
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) v St Galls(Antrim)
2-30pm Ballybofey
Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) v Ballinagh(Cavan)
2-30pm Brewster Park
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) v Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh)
2-30pm Páirc Esler
Scotstown(Monaghan) v Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry)
2-30pm Clones
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Donegal/Antrim v Fermanagh/Cavan
Down/Armagh v Monaghan/Derry
Sunday 1st December
Final
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Quote from: general_lee on October 20, 2013, 08:10:19 PM
Would have had the Down final as a 50/50 game so not that big a shock, though I had fancied Burren myself, so fair play to Kilcoo.
Agree that it should be another formality for Cross but Kilcoo will probably pose a lot more problems than last time round; can't see Cross getting another 11 point lead.
As already mentioned Cross have the ability to rack up a big score in games very quickly. The key to competing with that is to limit their big scores during that dominance they always get in a game. Easier said that done, must be only a handfull of teams in Ireland that have actually beat this Cross team, who are they?
We were beat in Armagh by Pearse Ogs in 2009.
In Ulster by Errigal Ciaran in 97 and 02, Blayney in 2000, Enniskillen Gaels in 01, Loup in 03, and Bellaghy in 05,
In the All Ireland series by Portlaoise in 2005, St Vincents in 2008, Kilmacud Crokes in 2009, and St Brigids in 2013.
That is an unbelievable record! We all know just how formidable Cross are but it's so impressive seeing it listed like that.
QuoteThat is an unbelievable record! We all know just how formidable Cross are but it's so impressive seeing it listed like that.
It is two handfuls of teams all the same, in a mere 18 years.
Crossmaglens championship record since1996 is as follows.
Played 142.
Won 118.
Drew 13.
Lost 11.
Quote from: crossfire on October 26, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
Crossmaglens championship record since1996 is as follows.
Played 142.
Won 118.
Drew 13.
Lost 11.
Great and all as it is it is worthless today, all history, next week is all that counts.
QuoteGreat and all as it is it is worthless today, all history, next week is all that counts.
Except it should motivate Kilcoo. There should be good crowd at this.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2013, 07:33:59 PM
QuoteGreat and all as it is it is worthless today, all history, next week is all that counts.
Except it should motivate Kilcoo. There should be good crowd at this.
Kilcoo should need no motivation, they have 'unfinished business'.
Was checking the odds on this weekends matches, nothing really standing out at the moment.
Quote from: crossfire on October 26, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
Crossmaglens championship record since 1996 is as follows.
Played 142.
Won 118.
Drew 13.
Lost 11.
And before 1996, were they all on active service?
Quote from: tintin25 on October 29, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Was checking the odds on this weekends matches, nothing really standing out at the moment.
Ballinderry 4-11 Scotstown 11-4
Ballinderry are favourites surely but 11-4 looks very big for a team with the Hughes brothers on it.
QuoteAnd before 1996, were they all on active service?
They needed Kernan power to ascend.
St Galls underdogs v Glenswilly?
Quote from: haranguerer on October 29, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
St Galls underdogs v Glenswilly?
Just slightly, 11/10 St Galls Evens Glenswilly
Quote from: orangeman on October 29, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on October 29, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Was checking the odds on this weekends matches, nothing really standing out at the moment.
Ballinderry 4-11 Scotstown 11-4
Ballinderry are favourites surely but 11-4 looks very big for a team with the Hughes brothers on it.
Didn't think the odds would be that short myself, but Ballinderry are big favourites no doubt. A much more experienced team at this level obviously, whereas Scotstown are after winning their first title in 20 years, it will be interesting to see if they can replicate their hunger from the Monaghan final. They'll need much bigger games from the Hughes's, neither were particularly great in the Monaghan final, and if they persist with the baffling tactic of Kieran Hughes at full-back they go nowhere, but I doubt they will.
What's the prices into Sunday's matches?
Quote from: Schkite on October 29, 2013, 06:17:33 PM
Quote from: orangeman on October 29, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on October 29, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Was checking the odds on this weekends matches, nothing really standing out at the moment.
Ballinderry 4-11 Scotstown 11-4
Ballinderry are favourites surely but 11-4 looks very big for a team with the Hughes brothers on it.
Didn't think the odds would be that short myself, but Ballinderry are big favourites no doubt. A much more experienced team at this level obviously, whereas Scotstown are after winning their first title in 20 years, it will be interesting to see if they can replicate their hunger from the Monaghan final. They'll need much bigger games from the Hughes's, neither were particularly great in the Monaghan final, and if they persist with the baffling tactic of Kieran Hughes at full-back they go nowhere, but I doubt they will.
The funny thing is that baffling as it was to play him full back I reckon he would actually make an excellent CHB and played much of his underage football there. He has the attributes to dominate in the position probably more than Darren has too as he can hold the position well and is a very good distributor of the ball. He is probably better facing the ball than having to turn and if you had him in the centre and Darren on the wing I reckon they would compliment each other very well. Still think Ballinderry will shade this one as they are very focused this year.
I see Ballinderry beat Scotstown in the 2008 Ulster Minor Club Final. Are there many players from these teams togging out on Sunday?
This was the teams that started that day
BALLINDERRY: S Cassidy; E Anderson, E Wilson, J Martin; P McIvor, C Rocks, K Forbes; J Devlin, A Devlin (0-1); M Devlin, R Scullion (1-5, 0-3 frees), D McGuckin; F Bell (1-1), G McGeehan (0-1), T Martin. Subs: R Wilkinson for M Devlin (58 mins), C Devlin for Martin, inj (61 mins).
SCOTSTOWN: S Gilheaney; K Traenor, K Hughes (0-1), M McPhillips; P Sheehan, D McArdle, M Corrigan; G Turley, P O'Hara; S Carey, M Traenor, D Heaphey; P Sherlock (2-0), A McCarey (0-5, 0-2 frees), C Caulfield. Subs: D McCague (0-1) for Sheehan (19 mins).
Aaron McCarey is with Wolves now.
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
This was the teams that started that day
BALLINDERRY: S Cassidy; E Anderson, E Wilson, J Martin; P McIvor, C Rocks, K Forbes; J Devlin, A Devlin (0-1); M Devlin, R Scullion (1-5, 0-3 frees), D McGuckin; F Bell (1-1), G McGeehan (0-1), T Martin. Subs: R Wilkinson for M Devlin (58 mins), C Devlin for Martin, inj (61 mins).
SCOTSTOWN: S Gilheaney; K Traenor, K Hughes (0-1), M McPhillips; P Sheehan, D McArdle, M Corrigan; G Turley, P O'Hara; S Carey, M Traenor, D Heaphey; P Sherlock (2-0), A McCarey (0-5, 0-2 frees), C Caulfield. Subs: D McCague (0-1) for Sheehan (19 mins).
Aaron McCarey is with Wolves now.
Ballinderry will have 2 from that team starting on sunday. Aaron Devlin and Dermot McGuckin
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 30, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
This was the teams that started that day
BALLINDERRY: S Cassidy; E Anderson, E Wilson, J Martin; P McIvor, C Rocks, K Forbes; J Devlin, A Devlin (0-1); M Devlin, R Scullion (1-5, 0-3 frees), D McGuckin; F Bell (1-1), G McGeehan (0-1), T Martin. Subs: R Wilkinson for M Devlin (58 mins), C Devlin for Martin, inj (61 mins).
SCOTSTOWN: S Gilheaney; K Traenor, K Hughes (0-1), M McPhillips; P Sheehan, D McArdle, M Corrigan; G Turley, P O'Hara; S Carey, M Traenor, D Heaphey; P Sherlock (2-0), A McCarey (0-5, 0-2 frees), C Caulfield. Subs: D McCague (0-1) for Sheehan (19 mins).
Aaron McCarey is with Wolves now.
Ballinderry will have 2 from that team starting on sunday. Aaron Devlin and Dermot McGuckin
Does R Scullion still play? What about McGeehan?
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 30, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
This was the teams that started that day
BALLINDERRY: S Cassidy; E Anderson, E Wilson, J Martin; P McIvor, C Rocks, K Forbes; J Devlin, A Devlin (0-1); M Devlin, R Scullion (1-5, 0-3 frees), D McGuckin; F Bell (1-1), G McGeehan (0-1), T Martin. Subs: R Wilkinson for M Devlin (58 mins), C Devlin for Martin, inj (61 mins).
SCOTSTOWN: S Gilheaney; K Traenor, K Hughes (0-1), M McPhillips; P Sheehan, D McArdle, M Corrigan; G Turley, P O'Hara; S Carey, M Traenor, D Heaphey; P Sherlock (2-0), A McCarey (0-5, 0-2 frees), C Caulfield. Subs: D McCague (0-1) for Sheehan (19 mins).
Aaron McCarey is with Wolves now.
Ballinderry will have 2 from that team starting on sunday. Aaron Devlin and Dermot McGuckin
Scotstown will have at least 7 of that squad with Hughes, McArdle, O'Hara and S Carey definite starters
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 30, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 30, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
This was the teams that started that day
BALLINDERRY: S Cassidy; E Anderson, E Wilson, J Martin; P McIvor, C Rocks, K Forbes; J Devlin, A Devlin (0-1); M Devlin, R Scullion (1-5, 0-3 frees), D McGuckin; F Bell (1-1), G McGeehan (0-1), T Martin. Subs: R Wilkinson for M Devlin (58 mins), C Devlin for Martin, inj (61 mins).
SCOTSTOWN: S Gilheaney; K Traenor, K Hughes (0-1), M McPhillips; P Sheehan, D McArdle, M Corrigan; G Turley, P O'Hara; S Carey, M Traenor, D Heaphey; P Sherlock (2-0), A McCarey (0-5, 0-2 frees), C Caulfield. Subs: D McCague (0-1) for Sheehan (19 mins).
Aaron McCarey is with Wolves now.
Ballinderry will have 2 from that team starting on sunday. Aaron Devlin and Dermot McGuckin
Does R Scullion still play? What about McGeehan?
Ryan Scullion is in Austrailia. McGeehan hasnt played in a couple of years. Had various injuries I think
Seems we are favs now for Sunday, PP can't make their mind up
Did I see right and that BBC will be streaming all 4 games this weekend?
I see wee Joey is stoking the fire before Sunday!
Father won't attend Ulster club game over abuse
31 October 2013
The father of a Crossmaglen player that was racially abused during last December's Ulster club final against Kilcoo has said he won't be attending the two clubs' latest encounter this coming Sunday on a point of principle.
Following a complaint from Crossmaglen's Aaron Cunningham on the matter, the Ulster Council banned one Kilcoo supporter for life and issued a four-month ban to Kilcoo player Aidan Branagan.
Both clubs have since expressed their desire to put the issue to bed, but Cunningham's father, Joey, has stated that he doesn't feel the punishment was appropriate. A hearings committee imposed a four-month suspension on Branagan, which was reduced from an original proposal of six months.
"I won't go to the game," Cunningham told The Irish Times. "Definitely not. Just out of principle. I know that if somebody said something to my son again, I know what would happen. I definitely won't go. I couldn't look at them. That's the truth.
"Speaking to people in their club, they promised to do this, that and the other and they went and did the opposite. I did the right thing by them - I could have torn that club to bits if I had wanted to.
"But I didn't want to do that because there's an awful lot of good people there in that club and they wouldn't have deserved it. I know some of them very, very well. And, to be honest, they let me down and they let my son down."
As an Irish League soccer player for Portadown in the 1980s, Cunningham found himself on the receiving end of racial abuse several times and insists the whole affair from the two teams' last meeting will keep him away from Newry this Sunday.
"We didn't get satisfaction but it is what it is," he said. "The GAA dealt with it the best way they could and there's nothing more to be said. It's done and dusted, you know? That's the way it is. I don't dwell on it and I can't think about it because you just have to move on. They just showed themselves for what they are and people can make their own minds up.
"I choose to let the GAA deal with it. I just wanted them to sort it out. But as far as I'm concerned, that's life. What do you do? You live and you learn. I'm not going to go through my whole life dwelling on it or thinking about it. I'm honestly not. Aaron turned the other cheek. Cross won the match and that's the most important thing.
"But at the end of the day, I can choose to be somewhere or not to be somewhere. I'm choosing not to be there because of the people involved. I really don't have any love for them. And I don't want it to turn into a circus either."
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 31, 2013, 04:12:34 PM
I see wee Joey is stoking the fire before Sunday!
Father won't attend Ulster club game over abuse
31 October 2013
The father of a Crossmaglen player that was racially abused during last December's Ulster club final against Kilcoo has said he won't be attending the two clubs' latest encounter this coming Sunday on a point of principle.
Following a complaint from Crossmaglen's Aaron Cunningham on the matter, the Ulster Council banned one Kilcoo supporter for life and issued a four-month ban to Kilcoo player Aidan Branagan.
Both clubs have since expressed their desire to put the issue to bed, but Cunningham's father, Joey, has stated that he doesn't feel the punishment was appropriate. A hearings committee imposed a four-month suspension on Branagan, which was reduced from an original proposal of six months.
"I won't go to the game," Cunningham told The Irish Times. "Definitely not. Just out of principle. I know that if somebody said something to my son again, I know what would happen. I definitely won't go. I couldn't look at them. That's the truth.
"Speaking to people in their club, they promised to do this, that and the other and they went and did the opposite. I did the right thing by them - I could have torn that club to bits if I had wanted to.
"But I didn't want to do that because there's an awful lot of good people there in that club and they wouldn't have deserved it. I know some of them very, very well. And, to be honest, they let me down and they let my son down."
As an Irish League soccer player for Portadown in the 1980s, Cunningham found himself on the receiving end of racial abuse several times and insists the whole affair from the two teams' last meeting will keep him away from Newry this Sunday.
"We didn't get satisfaction but it is what it is," he said. "The GAA dealt with it the best way they could and there's nothing more to be said. It's done and dusted, you know? That's the way it is. I don't dwell on it and I can't think about it because you just have to move on. They just showed themselves for what they are and people can make their own minds up.
"I choose to let the GAA deal with it. I just wanted them to sort it out. But as far as I'm concerned, that's life. What do you do? You live and you learn. I'm not going to go through my whole life dwelling on it or thinking about it. I'm honestly not. Aaron turned the other cheek. Cross won the match and that's the most important thing.
"But at the end of the day, I can choose to be somewhere or not to be somewhere. I'm choosing not to be there because of the people involved. I really don't have any love for them. And I don't want it to turn into a circus either."
Stoking the fire?? Gerry his son was racially abused!!!
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 30, 2013, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 30, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on October 30, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
This was the teams that started that day
BALLINDERRY: S Cassidy; E Anderson, E Wilson, J Martin; P McIvor, C Rocks, K Forbes; J Devlin, A Devlin (0-1); M Devlin, R Scullion (1-5, 0-3 frees), D MciGuckin; F Bell (1-1), G McGeehan (0-1), T Martin. Subs: R Wilkinson for M Devlin (58 mins), C Devlin for Martin, inj (61 mins).
SCOTSTOWN: S Gilheaney; K Traenor, K Hughes (0-1), M McPhillips; P Sheehan, D McArdle, M Corrigan; G Turley, P O'Hara; S Carey, M Traenor, D Heaphey; P Sherlock (2-0), A McCarey (0-5, 0-2 frees), C Caulfield. Subs: D McCague (0-1) for Sheehan (19 mins).
Aaron McCarey is with Wolves now.
Ballinderry will have 2 from that team starting on sunday. Aaron Devlin and Dermot McGuckin
Does R Scullion still play? What about McGeehan?
You stole my 2 questions!!!!Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2013, 11:40:55 PM
Seems we are favs now for Sunday, PP can't make their mind up
They seen my write up about the game on the michael murphy thread..
Ryan Scullion is in Austrailia. McGeehan hasnt played in a couple of years. Had various injuries I think
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 31, 2013, 02:05:40 PM
Did I see right and that BBC will be streaming all 4 games this weekend?
Yes, look towards the bottom of the article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/24761101
The radio programme which is covering all four games is being streamed yis eejits, not video coverage of the matches themselves
Is any website anywhere showing this game?
If not, can you get the BBC Radio link from their website if you are in New York?
Big crowd in Newry
Parking is wild
Leg of lamb dinner is class..
Michael McNamee starts in place of Aaron Kernan.
CROSSMAGLEN 0-3 1-3 KILCOO HT
GLENSWILLY 1-5 0-4 ST GALL'S HT
ROSLEA 0-8 0-4 BALLINAGH
SCOTSTOWN 0-5 0-4 BALLINDERRY HT
What's going on in the stand at Newry :-\
Kilcoo 3 pts up at half time.
Half time scores
Scotstown 0-5 Ballinderry 0-4
Glenswilly 1-5 St Gall's 0-4
Kilcoo 1-3 Crossmaglen 0-3
Good spell by Glenswilly after trailing 0-4 to 0-2
Keep 'er buttered lads, any more updates?
Cross only 1 behind
Glenswilly 1-8 St Galls 0-8
About 5 minutes left
Scottstown 0-8 Ballinderry 1-7
Glenswilly 1-8 St Galls 0-9
Glenswilly 1-9 St Galls 0-9
3 minutes
Kilcoo 1-7 v Crossmaglen 1-7
Glenswilly 1-9 St Galls 0-10
Last minute
Glenswilly 1-10 St Galls 0-10
Murphy 45 after two minutes of injury time
All over.
Glenswilly 1-10 St Galls 0-10.
Well done Glenswilly! :)
Extra Time with Cross Kilcoo
Scotstown 0-10 Ballinderry 1-8 FT
Cross 1-8
Kilcoo 1-7
First lead for Cross
Cross 1-8
Kilcoo 2-7
Cross 1-9
Kilcoo 2-7
Cross 1-10
Kilcoo 2-7
Cross 1-12
Kilcoo 2-7
Cross 1-12
Kilcoo 2-8
Cross 1-12
Kilcoo 2-9
Draw
Kilcoo did Down proud today- fair play- does anyone know if Aaron Kernan will be fit for the replay ?
Quote from: Dubh driocht on November 03, 2013, 04:30:08 PM
Kilcoo did Down proud today- fair play- does anyone know if Aaron Kernan will be fit for the replay ?
He didn't start or he got injured?
Didn't start, the brother said on the radio he got injured in the county final not sure if he'll be back for the replay.
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Quote from: Dubh driocht on November 03, 2013, 04:30:08 PM
Kilcoo did Down proud today- fair play- does anyone know if Aaron Kernan will be fit for the replay ?
Not a sentence you see too often.
Did down proud how? By drawing with a crossmaglen side missing a third of their team?
Kilcoo were also forced into making a number of changes with key men having to come off. I didn't realise that AK, PK and Jamie Clarke equated to a third of the Cross team?
In any case a great spectacle today, Kilcoo will probably be kicking themselves but at the same time relieved to still be in it. Overall I think they should have won, major blunder for the Cross goal when Kilcoo were really cruising and looking like they would close the game out. That gave Cross a huge lease of life and saw to a hugely entertaining finish. Cross are also lucky, McNamee could have seen red early on.
Absolutely amazing game. Lots of hard hitting from start to finish. Darragh O'Hanlon scored a monster free for Kilcoo right at the end, the same as he did in the County Final v Burren.
Kilcoo had a great goal chance in the second half of extra time, but it went into the side netting. A couple of middle aged Kilcoo men lost the plot in the stand just before half time. They should have been put out, but the stewarts were reluctant to get involved.
Both teams did themselves proud. It was tough going throughout. The referee was great, he just let them play away. Some other dick of a ref could have sent half of them off. Ryan Johnston was Man of the Match. J Hanratty, Garbhan Carragher and T Kernan were excellent for Cross.
Quote from: Feckitt on November 03, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
Absolutely amazing game. Lots of hard hitting from start to finish. Darragh O'Hanlon scored a monster free for Kilcoo right at the end, the same as he did in the County Final v Burren.
Kilcoo had a great goal chance in the second half of extra time, but it went into the side netting. A couple of middle aged Kilcoo men lost the plot in the stand just before half time. They should have been put out, but the stewarts were reluctant to get involved.
Both teams did themselves proud. It was tough going throughout. The referee was great, he just let them play away. Some other dick of a ref could have sent half of them off. Ryan Johnston was Man of the Match. J Hanratty, Garbhan Carragher and T Kernan were excellent for Cross.
Interesting.
Quote from: general_lee on November 03, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
Kilcoo were also forced into making a number of changes with key men having to come off. I didn't realise that AK, PK and Jamie Clarke equated to a third of the Cross team?
Add in James Morgan and Aaron Cunningham and there is a third of the team.
Anyway, I won't say too much at this stage as it is just half time. The team that recovers physically the best will win the replay, an awful lot of hits today(clean and not so clean). Either team could have won it but the draw was probably the truest result over the 80 minutes.
Apologies, had assumed A Cunningham was fit, he basically spent the game warming up right in front of me.
For me, both teams are extremely well conditioned and have great strength in depth. I felt Cross really missed AK's leadership/influence today and for that alone he would be a massive boost and could well be the difference, what exactly is his injury?
Part of me thinks Kilcoo have missed the boat, but I've been wrong before calling games like these!
Quote from: orangeman on November 03, 2013, 06:02:15 PM
Quote from: Feckitt on November 03, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
Absolutely amazing game. Lots of hard hitting from start to finish. Darragh O'Hanlon scored a monster free for Kilcoo right at the end, the same as he did in the County Final v Burren.
Kilcoo had a great goal chance in the second half of extra time, but it went into the side netting. A couple of middle aged Kilcoo men lost the plot in the stand just before half time. They should have been put out, but the stewarts were reluctant to get involved.
Both teams did themselves proud. It was tough going throughout. The referee was great, he just let them play away. Some other dick of a ref could have sent half of them off. Ryan Johnston was Man of the Match. J Hanratty, Garbhan Carragher and T Kernan were excellent for Cross.
Interesting.
As a neutral I think the ref let a lot go, both sets of players showed great discipline (to an extent) keeping their calm over the hour and 20 mins when lesser players would have snapped and earned themselves a red for reacting. If we get half the entertainment we got today we'll be in for a good game!
AK was a big lose today and as you say general lee his calmness and leadership would have been very important at key times. Anway, still in the pot and things willbe different next weekIthink.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2013, 06:27:45 PM
AK was a big lose today and as you say general lee his calmness and leadership would have been very important at key times. Anway, still in the pot and things willbe different next weekIthink.
AK and CUnningham back next week ?
When is Jamie Clarke back ?
Quote from: orangeman on November 03, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2013, 06:27:45 PM
AK was a big lose today and as you say general lee his calmness and leadership would have been very important at key times. Anway, still in the pot and things willbe different next weekIthink.
AK and CUnningham back next week ?
When is Jamie Clarke back ?
None of these players will be available next week, Jamie won't be back till Christmas
Quote from: general_lee on November 03, 2013, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: orangeman on November 03, 2013, 06:02:15 PM
Quote from: Feckitt on November 03, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
Absolutely amazing game. Lots of hard hitting from start to finish. Darragh O'Hanlon scored a monster free for Kilcoo right at the end, the same as he did in the County Final v Burren.
Kilcoo had a great goal chance in the second half of extra time, but it went into the side netting. A couple of middle aged Kilcoo men lost the plot in the stand just before half time. They should have been put out, but the stewarts were reluctant to get involved.
Both teams did themselves proud. It was tough going throughout. The referee was great, he just let them play away. Some other dick of a ref could have sent half of them off. Ryan Johnston was Man of the Match. J Hanratty, Garbhan Carragher and T Kernan were excellent for Cross.
Interesting.
As a neutral I think the ref let a lot go, both sets of players showed great discipline (to an extent) keeping their calm over the hour and 20 mins when lesser players would have snapped and earned themselves a red for reacting. If we get half the entertainment we got today we'll be in for a good game!
Yeah, this could have been a stop start game with 18 bookings, 3 red cards, and a load of time wasted. The referee wasn't perfect(how could you be in a match like this), but he realised that these are all tough men, well able to handle themselves. Both sides gave it and took it and there was no crying. The ref let them play away, warts and all. It was a thoroughly entertaining game of good hard football.
really good match in newry today. both sides gave everything for the cause. only for a really bad mistake in the kilcoo defence which gifted cross a goal, I think kilcoo would have won in normal time. thought cross had the momentum going into extra time and were going to go on and win it but fair play to kilcoo who dug deep again at the end to snatch a deserved replay.
what a point by darragh O'Hanlon at the death, he could have passed responsibility after missing a few easier frees.
Was in clones today. Scotstown were unlucky enough. A few strange decisions. Gilligan scored a free which myself and a few around me felt was wide. There was also a ball given as a line ball that was no way over the line. Another dodgy sludden decision. That said it was a decent enough contest. Scotstown struggled around the middle which prob cost them most and taking Corrigan off was very strange as he was winning most of the ball that came his way.
Quote from: timmyot501 on November 03, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
Was in clones today. Scotstown were unlucky enough. A few strange decisions. Gilligan scored a free which myself and a few around me felt was wide. There was also a ball given as a line ball that was no way over the line. Another dodgy sludden decision. That said it was a decent enough contest. Scotstown struggled around the middle which prob cost them most and taking Corrigan off was very strange as he was winning most of the ball that came his way.
Was there myself. Honestly think that Scotstown must be kicking themselves. 4 points up with 15 mins left and they just seemed to panic. Ballinderry showed all their experience and just did enough to grind it out. I wouldn't be blaming the ref too much either although you're spot on about the line ball - it was never out. I'd like to see D Hughes dissallowed goal again - was the ball out beforehand ? Also his shot against the bar - if that goes in then its game over. Scotstown are a young team and a few of them didn't rise to it in the same way as the county final. If they can retain Monaghan then they'll really build from today and kick on next year.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2013, 06:17:40 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 03, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
Kilcoo were also forced into making a number of changes with key men having to come off. I didn't realise that AK, PK and Jamie Clarke equated to a third of the Cross team?
Add in James Morgan and Aaron Cunningham and there is a third of the team.
Anyway, I won't say too much at this stage as it is just half time. The team that recovers physically the best will win the replay, an awful lot of hits today(clean and not so clean). Either team could have won it but the draw was probably the truest result over the 80 minutes.
what was your opinion on the ref BC,? a few boys on facebook from Cross saying he was a joke.
I would agree, i thought the ref kept Cross in the game with easy frees!!
Quote from: charlieTully on November 03, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2013, 06:17:40 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 03, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
Kilcoo were also forced into making a number of changes with key men having to come off. I didn't realise that AK, PK and Jamie Clarke equated to a third of the Cross team?
Add in James Morgan and Aaron Cunningham and there is a third of the team.
Anyway, I won't say too much at this stage as it is just half time. The team that recovers physically the best will win the replay, an awful lot of hits today(clean and not so clean). Either team could have won it but the draw was probably the truest result over the 80 minutes.
what was your opinion on the ref BC,? a few boys on facebook from Cross saying he was a joke.
I thought he was poor in some respects as he let an awful lot go which should have been pulled but he let us away with some stuff as well. He could have sent one or two off but I will keep my counsel on some incidents for now. He was not a determining factor though.
Quote from: Oglach on November 03, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
I would agree, i thought the ref kept Cross in the game with easy frees!!
would agree. thought kilcoo were hard done by on a number of occasions. cross got a few handy enough frees to keep them in it. although overall I thought the ref did well, as there was a lot of heavy hits given out by both teams.
The ref let a lot go and there were several instances where he could have given frees, but this applies to both sides.
Quote from: Oglach on November 03, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
I would agree, i thought the ref kept Cross in the game with easy frees!!
wrong! any player out there today earned a free!
Quote from: orangeman on November 03, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 03, 2013, 06:27:45 PM
AK was a big lose today and as you say general lee his calmness and leadership would have been very important at key times. Anway, still in the pot and things willbe different next weekIthink.
AK and CUnningham back next week ?
When is Jamie Clarke back ?
When the game was in the mix in extra time Jamie was tweeting about his breakfast in Manhattan. WTF.
Every day that goes by Jamie Clarke looks more interested in becoming a well-travelled and maverick fashionista; and less interested in playing football with Crossmaglen and Armagh.
Congratulations to Roslea today. Well deserved and about time a fermanagh club made the break through again at this level.
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Current outright odds
Crossmaglen (5/4), Glenswilly (11/4), Ballinderry (10/3), Kilcoo (5), Roslea (16)
Ah the lesser spotted fermanagh forward who can shoot
Heard the referee had a blinder too, for Roslea.
Quote from: FermGael on November 03, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
Ah the lesser spotted fermanagh forward who can shoot
Himself and Sean will take some stopping
Most wide open Ulster club championship in years. I think everyone apart from Roslea will fancy they could win this outright
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
Heard the referee had a blinder too, for Roslea.
I was at the game. You heard wrong. 50/50 the man done ok
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 03, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
Heard the referee had a blinder too, for Roslea.
I was at the game. You heard wrong. 50/50 the man done ok
Suppose a neutral would be a better person to give a view as you're from Fermanagh, but fair enough.
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2013, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 03, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
Heard the referee had a blinder too, for Roslea.
I was at the game. You heard wrong. 50/50 the man done ok
Suppose a neutral would be a better person to give a view as you're from Fermangh, but fair enough.
A Roslea man got a red. The only thing I can think of was if the penalty at the death was outside the area but for a Tyrone man, he done a decent job
Quote from: general_lee on November 03, 2013, 09:07:59 PM
Every day that goes by Jamie Clarke looks more interested in becoming a well-travelled and maverick fashionista; and less interested in playing football with Crossmaglen and Armagh.
Fair play to him
He is a young guy enjoying himself
Fair enough I heard different, but best of luck to Roslea in the next round. Should be a good battle with Glenswilly.
Quote from: trileacman on November 03, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
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Looking at the shirt, does that say "The Village Idiot"?
Not taking anything away from the game in Newry, but mother of God!! How many Kilcoo players went down holding their face, after getting little to no contact in that area at all.. Best example was Kilcoo no5, scored the last minute free, then runs straight into the back of Cross #11, then falls down clutching his face?? And he wasnt the only one, Thon laverty lad is an embarrassment to watch.
From last years final cross are missing/lost
Paul Kernan
James Morgan
Bobo Finnegan
Aaron Kernan
Aaron cunningham
Jamie Clarke
Oisin....
Not a bad result for the Cross B team!
Quote from: general_lee on November 03, 2013, 09:07:59 PM
Every day that goes by Jamie Clarke looks more interested in becoming a well-travelled and maverick fashionista; and less interested in playing football with Crossmaglen and Armagh.
...he's a 23 year old lad who has interest outside of football, wow. He's played many an important game and achieved a lot already in his short career, so what if he takes himself off for a few months. In 10 years when he has played and probably won several more championship medals will anyone care or remember where he was today? Footballing talent will always shine through, lad is gifted.
Jamie Clarke is a class act. He's a young lad wanting to do a bit of travelling, probably before he settles into a full time job, mortgage, a nagging wife, kids roaring 24/7 etc etc. Good luck to him.
He's been on the go for about 4 years non stop. The break will be good for him. He'll come back better than ever.
The first 55 minutes today in Newry was complete shite. Ugly, limited football from Kilcoo and an error fest from Cross. The last 25 minutes was brilliant entertainment, though. Both teams lucky and unlucky, but Kilcoo will definitely be kicking themselves more tonight. Four points up, five minutes left, Cross struggling to eke out point scoring opportunities never mind getting a sniff of goal - Kilcoo just had to see it out, but instead gifted Cross their escape route.
Some suggestions that Kilcoo missed the boat, but that's probably not the case. Kilcoo's defensive effort made Cross' FF line look a bit lightweight for a lot of today. Little stuck for Cross outside of ball into Carragher, and he was very closely looked after any time he got into possession. I don't know if Cross have the personnel available to change this much next week. The likes of Brennan and Cumiskey are good players given the bit of space most opponents allow, but if Kilcoo can be as claustrophobic again it's hard to see Cross running up much of a total, which in turn gives Kilcoo a very decent chance. Should be said that Cross' resolve to still be competitive on this stage is extraordinary given the number of and quality of their absentees.
Some other thoughts:
Johnny Hanratty might have the best shouldering technique in the country. Two more superb efforts today.
Paul Hearty had a very dodgy day. Beaten for Kilcoo's second goal and a number of awful kick outs.
Cross would've been nowhere without Tony Kernan's free taking. He's perhaps their most important player at the minute.
Kyle Brennan showed great bottle to grab a couple of points in ET after nothing happening for him and being substituted in normal time.
Great bottle too from O'Hanlon to step up and hit a pair of huge frees to level it after some very bad misses.
Kilcoo are the best about at the darker arts of the game. One of very few sides that could teach Cross a thing or two about this sort of stuff.
The ref did well to let a lot go, but lost the run of himself a bit with the bringing the ball forward craic. I know he had to do something about the constant messing every time a free was awarded, but it got to the point that players on both sides caught on they could earn another 10 or 15 yards by just driving the ball into the back of the nearest opponent. A number of crucial scores, including the equaliser, were kicked after the ball was brought forward.
Quote from: AFS on November 04, 2013, 12:18:42 AM
Johnny Hanratty might have the best shouldering technique in the country. Two more superb efforts today.
I'll never forget the day that All-Ireland Champions St Gall's came to Crossmaglen to defend their title. The standout moment of a great game was Johnny Hanratty hitting Aodhan Gallagher the most unbelievable shoulder ever!!
Well yesterday in extra time, a Kilcoo man was tearing out of defence at 90mph, and Johnny dropped the shoulder and sent his back a good 10 metres. It did the heart good to see such manly skills perfected with such strength and courage by Hanratty.
Maybe I was thinking of 2 different instances of johnny hanratty but the one where young o Hanlon ran out at pace he was hit square on into the chest not much manly about that and his other big hit was on Anthony devlin as he bend to pick up a ball resulting in devlin having to leave the field. I for one wouldn't class these as great shoulders not unlike some of the hits yesterday that were top drawer
What a wastefull display in front of the posts for us yesterday, we put 3 wide from the 21 dropped 3 into keepers hands from not far out and hit another 9/10 wides.
The amount of possession Glenswilly gave us and we lost by 3 points is criminal. Murphy scored a wonder point in the second half followed by a 45 straight over the bar. Took his penalty well, on the penalty incident I was directly behind the goal when Murphy went down, he'd got possession but was in the process of going down before Andy had a hand on his back, was very soft to be fair and for a big man he went down very easily ;)
That's us for another year, very disappointing as a supporter and the lads are gutted. That's a few times we have kicked ourselves out of these games
Glenswilly took their chances, I think they maybe hit 2 wides. Wish them all the best in the next round
Are the semi-finals played at the home county venue or a neutral county venue??
Quote from: donelli on November 04, 2013, 10:45:14 AM
Are the semi-finals played at the home county venue or a neutral county venue??
Neutral venue
RTE are saying that the Rangers Kilcoo replay is on Saturday, whereas BBC say it is on Sunday. Does anyone know for definite.
QuoteAre the semi-finals played at the home county venue or a neutral county venue??
Neutral venue. Omagh would seem reasonable for Glenswilly v Roslea (although much closer to the latter).
Quote from: Feckitt on November 04, 2013, 11:08:37 AM
RTE are saying that the Rangers Kilcoo replay is on Saturday, whereas BBC say it is on Sunday. Does anyone know for definite.
Sunday 2.30 Athletic Grounds.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
QuoteAre the semi-finals played at the home county venue or a neutral county venue??
Neutral venue. Omagh would seem reasonable for Glenswilly v Roslea (although much closer to the latter).
It would be reasonable for Glenswilly too. They're just outside Letterkenny.
Quote from: J70 on November 04, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
QuoteAre the semi-finals played at the home county venue or a neutral county venue??
Neutral venue. Omagh would seem reasonable for Glenswilly v Roslea (although much closer to the latter).
It would be reasonable for Glenswilly too. They're just outside Letterkenny.
Omagh is more or less half way between Glenswilly and Roslea
QuoteOmagh is more or less half way between Glenswilly and Roslea
Fair enough, I wasn't sure where Glenswilly was in relation to Letterkenny.
Anyone from the Down County Board, or Ulster, able to say why there was no Armagh flag in Newry yesterday? They had a Down, Tyrone, Ireland, Ulster gaa and GAA 125 flag....
Quote from: our_fella on November 04, 2013, 07:39:08 PM
Anyone from the Down County Board, or Ulster, able to say why there was no Armagh flag in Newry yesterday? They had a Down, Tyrone, Ireland, Ulster gaa and GAA 125 flag....
Maybe the Armagh flag only flies on designated days? ;D
And why the counties on the scoreboard, and not the club names?
Quotemaybe the Armagh flag only flies on designated days? ;D
They should fly an Armagh flag permanently at the Armagh end of the ground, it is Armagh territory
Id this is in dispute look at the 19th century map http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,708899,824821,6,7
much of Pairc Esler is in Drumalane townland, which is clearly in Armagh.
QuoteAnd why the counties on the scoreboard, and not the club names?
Sure Cross is Armagh as far as club football is concerned at this stage.....
I see Kernan is calling for the replay to be moved from Athletic Grounds to Crossmaglen. I can see his point, though from a neutral point of view hope its goes ahead in Armagh. Its a much better ground for winter football and will enusre at least 70% of the crowd are covered. Its also easier to access for most neutrals. Cross played all their championship games in Armagh so they should be well used to it. Not sure what the rules are around home advantage currently. What does Cross hold? I'd say there was close to 10,000 there on Sunday.
Quote from: Redhand Santa on November 04, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
I see Kernan is calling for the replay to be moved from Athletic Grounds to Crossmaglen. I can see his point, though from a neutral point of view hope its goes ahead in Armagh. Its a much better ground for winter football and will enusre at least 70% of the crowd are covered. Its also easier to access for most neutrals. Cross played all their championship games in Armagh so they should be well used to it. Not sure what the rules are around home advantage currently. What does Cross hold? I'd say there was close to 10,000 there on Sunday.
7,800 were there on Sunday.
Quote7,800 were there on Sunday.
RTÉ this moring said close to 10,000. Were u16s in free?
What is the capacity of the Marshes? The stand was 90% full, the terrace near the gate 75% full, 50% full further down.
Holds 20,000 I think.
7826 to be exact. U-16s were free. Don't know if that figure includes them.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 04, 2013, 10:06:27 PM
Quote7,800 were there on Sunday.
RTÉ this moring said close to 10,000. Were u16s in free?
What is the capacity of the Marshes? The stand was 90% full, the terrace near the gate 75% full, 50% full further down.
I think that's being a bit too generous. Went down the far end of the terrace to get away from looking into the sun so much, and it was sparsely enough populated past the far 45. 7800 sounds about right.
Will big Joe take a leave from Pellegrinis book and drop under performing goal keeper?
What was happening in the middle of the stand end first half?
Quote from: holylandsniper on November 05, 2013, 11:54:20 AM
Will big Joe take a leave from Pellegrinis book and drop under performing goal keeper?
What was happening in the middle of the stand end first half?
Was he in the book?
Aaron Kernan out for 4 months
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/24832888
Cross' are missing two players that would be of interest to most intercounty managers in the country, Kernan and Clarke, a solid intercounty player Morgan and a couple more besides. Yet Boyelsports has them at 11/8 to win 3 games to win Ulster. Not a great value bet!
It's there for Kilcoo. Last time Cross were took to a replay they smashed Garrycastle to pieces in a one-way match but they had their full deck then.
This is the time of the year experience usually tells so this replay is looking very interesting.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 06, 2013, 07:23:48 PM
Aaron Kernan out for 4 months
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/24832888
Cross' are missing two players that would be of interest to most intercounty managers in the country, Kernan and Clarke, a solid intercounty player Morgan and a couple more besides. Yet Boyelsports has them at 11/8 to win 3 games to win Ulster. Not a great value bet!
Cross are a completely different animal this year from the team that beat us last year. That price is poor.
Price is poor and team is different but write them off at your peril. A certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
With the absentees before last week and the likely further absentees this week it is Kilcoo's to lose and I am not playing silly buggers. Lump your money on a Glenswilly Balinderry final with Ballinderry to win her outright.
QuoteA certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
The Cross goal was fortuitous and Kilcoo missed a sitting goal in extra time. Even if Cross get over Kilcoo another week is not going to make much difference to the selection, although apparently they may be playing Ballinderry in Newry if that comes about.
Whats this about Seamus Quigley hugging the umpire?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
QuoteA certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
The Cross goal was fortuitous and Kilcoo missed a sitting goal in extra time. Even if Cross get over Kilcoo another week is not going to make much difference to the selection, although apparently they may be playing Ballinderry in Newry if that comes about.
Kilcoo got two fortuitous goals and still did not win - first was a square ball and second a keeper mistake. But how Cross still manage to be there with so many top players missing is a credit to them.
Quote from: Throw ball on November 07, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
QuoteA certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
The Cross goal was fortuitous and Kilcoo missed a sitting goal in extra time. Even if Cross get over Kilcoo another week is not going to make much difference to the selection, although apparently they may be playing Ballinderry in Newry if that comes about.
Kilcoo got two fortuitous goals and still did not win - first was a square ball and second a keeper mistake. But how Cross still manage to be there with so many top players missing is a credit to them.
Unbelievable that Cross salvaged a draw considering the amount of absentees they have. Shame really, at full strength they could go all the way again.
The reason Cross are there with so many top players missing is simply because they also STILL have so many top players available to them. Cross have a depth of talent that no other team around can lay claim to (well certainly not outside Dublin clubs). Yes it is a weaker Cross side than their best 15 but Kilcoo will still have achieved a lot if they are still in the championship by Sunday evening.
I am hoping Kilcoo can do it and go on to represent Down. Does anyone know if Kilcoo will be fully fit or if the players that took knock are out?
Looks like both A Devlin and J Johnston are both extremely doubtful which surely will swing tie to Cross. It is unbelievable that a club team can miss the players they are missing and still be competing at the highest level but also it has to be said it is also a credit to a club the size of Kilcoo's to be doing the same.
On the match hopefully it will be as good last week both teams lived on the edge with late hits and off the ball stuff which could have spilled over but was well handled by Cassidy. Ballinderry will be happiest watching the 2 teams battle it out, whoever gets through will have to recover quickly to play them.
Quote from: Throw ball on November 07, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
QuoteA certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
The Cross goal was fortuitous and Kilcoo missed a sitting goal in extra time. Even if Cross get over Kilcoo another week is not going to make much difference to the selection, although apparently they may be playing Ballinderry in Newry if that comes about.
Kilcoo got two fortuitous goals and still did not win - first was a square ball and second a keeper mistake. But how Cross still manage to be there with so many top players missing is a credit to them.
To be fair The Cross goal came from a bad defensive mistake and Kilcoo also missed a 2 on 1 chance in extra time, very little between teams and hopefully a tight game again in store in the Athletic grounds.
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
No matter who comes out of Sunday's game will have to play 3 weeks in a row on heavy pitches so would say Ballinderry will give whoever a game. Scotstown are no bad team so it was a good win for them and as you say they do look good on paper.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
QuoteA certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
The Cross goal was fortuitous and Kilcoo missed a sitting goal in extra time. Even if Cross get over Kilcoo another week is not going to make much difference to the selection, although apparently they may be playing Ballinderry in Newry if that comes about.
And Kilcoo's second was a well worked masterpiece? Hearty made a mistake for it the same way Kilcoo made a mistake at the end of normal time. Works both ways. Fact is Cross are still there despite themselves and their absentees. Will be interesting to see how (if) Kilcoo cope without a couple of their main men.
Quote from: supersub on November 08, 2013, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
QuoteA certain Mr Clarke could be around IF they got over Kilcoo on Sunday, which is very possible. Kilcoo played out of their skin and only got a draw after extra time, and arguably should have been beaten in extra time!
The Cross goal was fortuitous and Kilcoo missed a sitting goal in extra time. Even if Cross get over Kilcoo another week is not going to make much difference to the selection, although apparently they may be playing Ballinderry in Newry if that comes about.
And Kilcoo's second was a well worked masterpiece? Hearty made a mistake for it the same way Kilcoo made a mistake at the end of normal time. Works both ways. Fact is Cross are still there despite themselves and their absentees. Will be interesting to see how (if) Kilcoo cope without a couple of their main men.
All true but we are completely to the wire in terms of injuries and the advantage is clearly with Ballinderry in the long run as they are sitting nicely poised to pick of the leftovers of either team that comes through on Sunday.
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
I think the question here is will cross/kilcoo give ballinderry a real game!
What's Jerome johnsons specific injury?
Quote from: RandyDupree on November 08, 2013, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
I think the question here is will cross/kilcoo give ballinderry a real game!
What's Jerome johnsons specific injury?
Is this the same Ballinderry who were pushed all the way by Scotstown and were losing most of the game?
Will be a very even game no matter what way the tie falls.
Quote from: supersub on November 08, 2013, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: RandyDupree on November 08, 2013, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
I think the question here is will cross/kilcoo give ballinderry a real game!
What's Jerome johnsons specific injury?
Is this the same Ballinderry who were pushed all the way by Scotstown and were losing most of the game?
Will be a very even game no matter what way the tie falls.
Yeah, because Scotstown are crap, so they are. ::)
Quote from: RandyDupree on November 08, 2013, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: supersub on November 08, 2013, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: RandyDupree on November 08, 2013, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
I think the question here is will cross/kilcoo give ballinderry a real game!
What's Jerome johnsons specific injury?
Is this the same Ballinderry who were pushed all the way by Scotstown and were losing most of the game?
Will be a very even game no matter what way the tie falls.
Yeah, because Scotstown are crap, so they are. ::)
::) Point completely missed. Previous post suggesting Ballinderry best of the lot, I'm suggesting not so much. Nothing to do with Scotstown's ability.
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 08, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
I think you need to learn the rule regarding square ball!
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 08, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 08, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
I think you need to learn the rule regarding square ball!
I think it is you who need to learn the rule! My view on the tv pictures was that the Kilcoo goal scorer was in the small square before the pass left the hands of the player passing the ball. Square ball. Simple. Not that it matters.
Quote from: Throw ball on November 08, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 08, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 08, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
I think you need to learn the rule regarding square ball!
I think it is you who need to learn the rule! My view on the tv pictures was that the Kilcoo goal scorer was in the small square before the pass left the hands of the player passing the ball. Square ball. Simple. Not that it matters.
Thought that too and it wasn't that he was running in either, standing stock still when the ball is passed. As you say though matters not and it is all down to the teams now on Sunday. Stupid odds flying around for us to win Ulster at the minute,
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 08, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on November 08, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 08, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 08, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
I think you need to learn the rule regarding square ball!
I think it is you who need to learn the rule! My view on the tv pictures was that the Kilcoo goal scorer was in the small square before the pass left the hands of the player passing the ball. Square ball. Simple. Not that it matters.
Thought that too and it wasn't that he was running in either, standing stock still when the ball is passed. As you say though matters not and it is all down to the teams now on Sunday. Stupid odds flying around for us to win Ulster at the minute,
Sorry lads...my understanding is, that you can score if you're in the wee square if you get a pass from play. If you get a ball from a 50 or a free then it doesnt count. Am I wrong????
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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 08, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
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Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 08, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 08, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
I think you need to learn the rule regarding square ball!
I think it is you who need to learn the rule! My view on the tv pictures was that the Kilcoo goal scorer was in the small square before the pass left the hands of the player passing the ball. Square ball. Simple. Not that it matters.
Thought that too and it wasn't that he was running in either, standing stock still when the ball is passed. As you say though matters not and it is all down to the teams now on Sunday. Stupid odds flying around for us to win Ulster at the minute,
Sorry lads...my understanding is, that you can score if you're in the wee square if you get a pass from play. If you get a ball from a 50 or a free then it doesnt count. Am I wrong????
Yeah you're wrong. In all cases you can't be in the small square before a certain time. From a set play (free, 45, sideline) that time is when the ball enters the small square. From play, that time is when the ball is played in (when it is kicked or hand-passed).
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 0-14 Clonoe O'Rahillys(Tyrone) 0-10
Celtic Park
Scorers:
Ballinderry: R Bell 0-4 (1f), A Devlin 0-3, C Gilligan 0-2, D McKinless, D McGuckin, C Devlin , C Nevin, D Lawn 0-1 each.
Clonoe: D McNulty 0-4 (1f), C McAlickey 0-3 (3f), PJ Lavery 0-2, RT O'Neill 0-1.
Teams:
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: E Muldoon for Lawn (42), D Conway for D McKinless (56), M Harney for Wilson (60), Kevin M McGuckin for J Conway (62).
Clonoe M O'Neill; D Quinn, A Brady, C O'Neill; J McClure, S McCann, PJ Lavery; S McNulty, S O'Hagan; R T O'Neill, C Doris, P Doris; P Coney, D McNulty, C McAliskey. Subs: G Coney for S McCann (13), R R O'Neill for P Doris (44), D McClure for C McAliskey (52), S Hughes for J McClure (58).
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 1-10 St Galls(Antrim) 0-10
Ballybofey
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí: M Murphy 1-4 (1-0 penalty, 1f, two 50s), G McFadden 0-3 (all frees), N Gallagher, K McFadden, B Farrelly 0-1 each.
St Galls: C McGourty 0-5 (4 frees), A Healy, K Niblock, S Burke, K Stewart, M Pollock 0-1 each.
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, E Ward, R Crawford; Caolan Kelly, J McDaid, J McFadden; N Gallagher, C Bonner; J Gibbons, G McFadden, D McGinley; Colin Kelly, M Murphy, K McFadden. Subs: C Gallagher for J McDaid (49), B Farrelly for K McFadden (53), R Diver for McGinley (60).
St Galls C Kerr; A McClean, C Brady; R Wilson, S Kelly, J McGeevy, A Healy; S Burke, A Gallagher; T O'Neill, K Niblock, K McGourty; C McGourty, M Pollock, N O'Neill. Subs: B Bradley for McGreevy (43), K Stewart for K McGourty (43), S O'Hara for N O'Neill (47), C Burke for S Burke (56).
Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-12 Ballinagh(Cavan) 0-11
Brewster Park
Scorers:
Roslea: Seamie Quigley 1-7 (0-5frees, 1-0 penalty), Sean Quigley 0-4, S Lynch 0-1.
Ballinagh: K Smith 0-3, N McDermott 0-2 (2 frees), D Finnegan 0-2; P O'Reilly, T Moore, C Gumley, A Gaynor 0-1 each
Teams:
Roslea S Boyle; P Sherry, C Mulligan, C Quigley; M Beagan, N Cassidy, M Renfrew; K McMahon, J Sherry (capt); N Cosgrove; S McMahon, P Lynch, S Lynch; S Quigley, S Quigley. Subs: N McMahon for P Sherry, B Sherlock for S Lynch
Ballinagh D Beard; K McBride (capt), P Carroll, C Smith; D McInerney, N O'Reilly, P Bogue; P O'Reilly, T Moore; K Smith, E Brady, D Finnegan; C Gumley, N McDermott, T Smith. Subs: E McEvoy for McInerney, A Gaynor for Brady, B Carthy for T Smith, R O'Reilly for Gumley
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 2-09 Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh 1-12 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07
Páirc Esler
Scorers:
Kilcoo: R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3 frees), P Devlin 0-3 (1f), P Greenan 1-0, Gerard McEvoy
Crossmaglen: T Kernan 0-6(all frees,) S Kernan 1-1, K Brennan 0-2, J Hanratty, M Aherne, C Cumiskey 0-1 each
Teams:
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, Aidan Branagan; P Devlin, A Devlin, R Johnston; J Johnston, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: F McGreevy for J Johnston (24), Aaron Branagan for A Devlin (39), J McClean for McGreevy (39), Sean Devlin for Gary McEvoy (52), S Devlin for A Branagan (70), M Devlin for R Johnston (76), N Morgan for M Devlin (80).
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, S Kernan; P Óg Grant, T Kernan, M McNamee; K Brennan, K Carragher, C Cumiskey. Subs: D McKenna for Brennan (43), C O'Neill for McNamee (53), M Boyce for Cumiskey (56), K Brennanfor Grant (66).
Scotstown(Monaghan) 0-10 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-08
Clones
Scorers:
Scotstown: K Hughes 0-2 (1 f), C McCarthy 0-2 (2frees), R Beggan 0-1 (a free), J Turley, S Carey, D Hughes, N Corrigan, B McGinnity 0-1 each.
Ballinderry: D Conway 1-0, C Gilligan 0-2 (2 frees), C Devlin 0-2 (1f), M McIver, A Devlin, D McGuckin, R Bell 0-1 each
Teams:
Scotstown R Beggan; D McArdle, D Morgan, M Duffy; P Keenan, W Carroll, E Caulfield; F Caulfield, J Turley; K Hughes, S Carey, D Hughes; P O'Hara, N Corrigan, C McCarthy. Subs: B McGinnity for E Caulfield, O Heaphey for N Corrigan, Fergal McPhillips for P Keenan, D McCague for F Caulfield, N Corrigan for S carey.
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: K McGuckin for R Wilson, E Muldoon for A Devlin, D Conway for D McKinless, J Bateson for M McIver.
Sunday 10th November
Quarter Final Replay:
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) v Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down)
2-30pm Athletic Grounds
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) v Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh)
2-30pm Omagh
Crossmaglen/Kilcoo v Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry)
2-30pm (Crossmaglen v Ballinderry - Páirc Esler) (Kilcoo v Ballinderry - Athletic Grounds)
Sunday 1st December
Final
Quote from: Throw ball on November 08, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 08, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 08, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
I wathced the highlights of the Cross/Kilkoo match on TG4 player, the first kilcoo goal was defintely a square ball, I am surprised that only one person on here has mentioned it. Speaking to a few neutrals who were at the match they expect Cross to win the replay. Is BCB playing games or is this Cross team finished????
I think you need to learn the rule regarding square ball!
I think it is you who need to learn the rule! My view on the tv pictures was that the Kilcoo goal scorer was in the small square before the pass left the hands of the player passing the ball. Square ball. Simple. Not that it matters.
+1
TG4 showing this replay tomorrow?
Quote from: qubdub on November 09, 2013, 05:02:57 PM
TG4 showing this replay tomorrow?
No, Corofin v Castlebar & Passage v Na Piarsiagh in Munster hurling (deferred)
QuoteNo, Corofin v Castlebar & Passage v Na Piarsiagh in Munster hurling (deferred)
Will this be the first year in recent times that Cross' do not appear on TG4?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 09, 2013, 05:27:39 PM
QuoteNo, Corofin v Castlebar & Passage v Na Piarsiagh in Munster hurling (deferred)
Will this be the first year in recent times that Cross' do not appear on TG4?
Given they were on the box in February Big Joe better have a DeLoren handy if he wants to achieve that feat.
hope crossmaglen can do this tomorrow, some people wonder how cross can find hunger year after year,,playing kilcool has to be a motivation on its own right, come on the rangers do armagh football proud
Is there anywhere streaming the Cross game today?
Quote from: qwerty123 on November 10, 2013, 08:40:04 AM
Is there anywhere streaming the Cross game today?
Don't think so.
U105 do v good radio commentary
Just through Armagh there. Notoceable lack of foreign faces around the town; must have been warned Kilcoo were coming today.
Cross to win by at least 6pts.
Anyone got a link for the page with Radio Ulster's online commentary? I can't find it anywhere.
Got it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/24802612
You'd almost swear BBC didn't want you to find these links.
Another good game but maybe not as exciting as last week.
A fair result I would have thought, though if Cross had a full hand to choose from they'd have easily beat Kilcoo, fair play to them though as it took Kilcoo two games in ET to beat them. I don't think the Ballinderry men in the crowd will have too much to worry about for the semi-final.
The first sending off in my view was a turning point, after that Cross had Kilcoo rattled and looked like they could near nick it, but when it came to the end of normal time and both teams level, the Down men looked to have more options on the bench whereas Cross hadn't really anyone to bring on.
Would imagine that deep down Cross people will accept that the extended break will do them no harm in the long run, AK can regain fitness and they can go into next season a bit fresher and as well as getting a bit of game time with the county.
AK was a huge loss as he would be to any club or county team- he is one of the many main cogs in the Cross machine . Additionally the loss of the unbelievably reliable Oisin and the unbelievably talented Clarke would be too much for any team. Fair play to Kilcoo all the same and they will show the same resolve ( and lack of any 'inferiority' complex) against Ballinderry.
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
So kilcoo are favourites to win a title they have never won after beating a seriously under-strength reigning champion after playing 2 physically demanding games in a row with the added loss of their first choice corner back and doubts over their chf.... :o :o
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
So kilcoo are favourites to win a title they have never won after beating a seriously under-strength reigning champion after playing 2 physically demanding games in a row with the added loss of their first choice corner back and doubts over their chf.... :o :o
Kilcoo got to the final just last year. If this proves a huge mental boost to them - dear lord, it should - any physical fatigue will be quickly forgotten about. Think Ulster is wide open right now but Kilcoo have as good a chance as anyone.
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
So kilcoo are favourites to win a title they have never won after beating a seriously under-strength reigning champion after playing 2 physically demanding games in a row with the added loss of their first choice corner back and doubts over their chf.... :o :o
Beat the main team and you are favs, very simple (shakes head)
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
So kilcoo are favourites to win a title they have never won after beating a seriously under-strength reigning champion after playing 2 physically demanding games in a row with the added loss of their first choice corner back and doubts over their chf.... :o :o
Narrow favourites...
Kilcoo 13/8
Ballinderry 7/4
Glenswilly 15/8
Roslea 20/1
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
So kilcoo are favourites to win a title they have never won after beating a seriously under-strength reigning champion after playing 2 physically demanding games in a row with the added loss of their first choice corner back and doubts over their chf.... :o :o
are you offering better odds then on kilcoo? kilcoo were dead and buried in the ulster final last year and came right back into it only losing after a bad error led to a cross goal, they were the victim of a dodgy penalty decision early on. all this talk about missing cross players, oisin wasn't missing, he has retired, end of. Jamie made a choice to go to the states, his decision, he was not available for selection, was Cunningham playing today? aaron kernan a big loss no doubt but Jerome johnstone only came on late. kilcoo were cruising until the sending off, but held on and should have won it in normal time. In extra time they simply blew cross away, the fitness levels they showed was first class. do you honestly think they will give a flying f**k about being bookies favourite, they will fear no one. they are a serious outfit, any team that puts away burren and cross are rightly entitled to the mantle of favourites in betting terms.
Charlie you are missing the point here-
Im not detracting in any way from the eoghan rua display today,in fact im delighted for them
however after beating the weakest Cross team for years after 2 prolonged physically demanding games
WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HARD EARNED CASH ON THE MAGPIES TO WIN ULSTER AT 13/8?
Best of luck if you do but you should have been on last week when not many fancied them to beat the so-called MAIN team ;) ;)
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 11:39:23 PM
Charlie you are missing the point here-
Im not detracting in any way from the eoghan rua display today,in fact im delighted for them
however after beating the weakest Cross team for years after 2 prolonged physically demanding games
WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HARD EARNED CASH ON THE MAGPIES TO WIN ULSTER AT 13/8?
no, I wouldn't bet on it, but can undertand why they are favs.
Quote from: charlieTully on November 10, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 11:39:23 PM
Charlie you are missing the point here-
Im not detracting in any way from the eoghan rua display today,in fact im delighted for them
however after beating the weakest Cross team for years after 2 prolonged physically demanding games
WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HARD EARNED CASH ON THE MAGPIES TO WIN ULSTER AT 13/8?
no, I wouldn't bet on it, but can undertand why they are favs.
Yes I can understand Kilcoo being tagged as favourites...
just like Burren were favourites to beat them in Down ...or
Cross were favourites twice to beat them......
Kilcoo can only beat what's in front of them. Crossmaglen would still have a strong panel without those star names. From listening to the game today, Kilcoo were the better side for 50 minutes. And put up a very good performance last year in the Ulster final after a poor start. All the remaining teams have a good chance, Kilcoo maybe slightly ahead and should be favs. They will obviously rest this week and be ready for next week.
Kilcoo beat a very weak Cross team today but have had two very tough games to do so. It will take a big effort for them to beat Ballinderry but their style of play will help.
Armagh club teams will have to step up to. If Maghery had the same approach to matches as Kilcoo had to day they would have beat Cross this year. Especially when Cross were down a few more players than when they played in Armagh championship. Too many Armagh teams have an inferiority complex.
Next year will be a big one for Cross. This year they lost Oisin to retirement, Jamie to travelling and Franny Hanratty seemingly had a fall out. Add to this Paul Kernan has had to take a year out with injury, James Morgan and Ronan Finnegan got injured in a car crash and Aaron Kernan did his ankle. BCB reported on Armagh forum that McKenna was not fit to play today and Aaron Cunningham was only fit to come on as a sub. A couple of others were obviously carrying knocks. Will they be able to regroup next year with everyone on board. If they do this year may only be a blip. On the other hand I would prefer another Armagh club to step up to the mark.
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 11, 2013, 12:00:39 AM
Kilcoo can only beat in front what's in front of them. Crossmaglen would still have a strong panel without those star names. From listening to the game today, Kilcoo were the better side for 50 minutes. And put up a very good performance last year in the Ulster final after a poor start. All the remaining teams have a good chance, Kilcoo maybe slightly ahead and should be favs. They will obviously rest this week and be ready for next week.
Kilcoo maybe slightly ahead and should be favs
Ballinderry have won ulsters an all ireland ..,......
Kilcoo won a match today......not a trophy...
It is a big challenge for any Armagh club to get the improvement Cross can get from having all of the above available.
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
Quote from: charlieTully on November 10, 2013, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: MK on November 10, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Who would be favourites to win Ulster club now? Ballinderry??
Kilcoo fav with Paddy Power.
So kilcoo are favourites to win a title they have never won after beating a seriously under-strength reigning champion after playing 2 physically demanding games in a row with the added loss of their first choice corner back and doubts over their chf.... :o :o
are you offering better odds then on kilcoo? kilcoo were dead and buried in the ulster final last year and came right back into it only losing after a bad error led to a cross goal, they were the victim of a dodgy penalty decision early on. all this talk about missing cross players, oisin wasn't missing, he has retired, end of. Jamie made a choice to go to the states, his decision, he was not available for selection, was Cunningham playing today? aaron kernan a big loss no doubt but Jerome johnstone only came on late. kilcoo were cruising until the sending off, but held on and should have won it in normal time. In extra time they simply blew cross away, the fitness levels they showed was first class. do you honestly think they will give a flying f**k about being bookies favourite, they will fear no one. they are a serious outfit, any team that puts away burren and cross are rightly entitled to the mantle of favourites in betting terms.
Talk of players missing is because that is the fact of the matter, no one mentioned Oisin as he can't be counted. Jamie Clarke, Aaron Kernan, James Morgan, Ronan Finegan, David McKenna, Fran Hanratty and Aaron Cunningham to an extent missing over the two games from the usual team/panel. At least three county standard men there, has to count for something, and even at that they fought it out til extra time of the second game. Fair play to Kilcoo better over the two games and good luck to them in the rest of their campaign. Would be wary of this Cross team next year, won't want the losing feeling to dwell too long, no doubt they will be chomping at the bit to get going again at it next year, the same way as Kilcoo only had one thing in their head this year - a rematch with Cross!
What's the story with Hanratty? Is he injured?
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
No we're not running out of talent, you take 7 starters out of any team be it cub or county and they will be heavily weakened. Paul Hearty is 36, Aaron and Stephen are 29/30, Tony Kernan, Mickey Mc, are 27/28, the rest of the team are 25 and under. Once the new season starts we will have a group of players back fresh and hopefully injury free. People forget that these lads have been playing non-stop since January 2010. They will have 2 months off now and hopefully the county management respect that they need a break. Whatever about Jamie and where he will be by the time the next championship begins but we will have 3-4 starting payers back and a group of fresher players. If we can keep the thing within the county tight for the next 3-4 years there is a group of young lads coming through that are as good as the club has seen for many years.
How many times have clubs who have beat Cross in the first round/semi final went on to win the Ulster Club championship?
I know that Enniskillen beat them but the 1 week break was not enough as we got put out the next week by Scotstown.
The two games plus extra time will have taken a lot out of Kilcoo, both physically and mentally.
A very big ask next week for them against Ballinderry.
Quote from: MK on November 11, 2013, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 11, 2013, 12:00:39 AM
Kilcoo can only beat in front what's in front of them. Crossmaglen would still have a strong panel without those star names. From listening to the game today, Kilcoo were the better side for 50 minutes. And put up a very good performance last year in the Ulster final after a poor start. All the remaining teams have a good chance, Kilcoo maybe slightly ahead and should be favs. They will obviously rest this week and be ready for next week.
Kilcoo maybe slightly ahead and should be favs
Ballinderry have won ulsters an all ireland ..,......
Kilcoo won a match today......not a trophy...
Ballinderry have flattered to deceive for a few years since they won Ulster and All Ireland. Nobody said Kilcoo won a trophy
Quote from: FermGael on November 11, 2013, 09:56:42 AM
How many times have clubs who have beat Cross in the first round/semi final went on to win the Ulster Club championship?
I know that Enniskillen beat them but the 1 week break was not enough as we got put out the next week by Scotstown.
The two games plus extra time will have taken a lot out of Kilcoo, both physically and mentally.
A very big ask next week for them against Ballinderry.
Errigal played them 3 weeks in a row, I'm sure at least one of those went to extra time, and then beat Ballinderry the following week and Enniskillen the week after that. Sometimes it can tire you out, sometimes it makes you mentally tougher.
Quote from: FermGael on November 11, 2013, 09:56:42 AM
How many times have clubs who have beat Cross in the first round/semi final went on to win the Ulster Club championship?
I know that Enniskillen beat them but the 1 week break was not enough as we got put out the next week by Scotstown.
The two games plus extra time will have taken a lot out of Kilcoo, both physically and mentally.
A very big ask next week for them against Ballinderry.
Why mentally? They have just beaten the team who beat them in the Ulster final last year (and the best club side in the country over the last decade). If anything it will have helped them mentally.
Were they charging £7 for children yesterday? :o
Kilcoo seemed to have been preparing for this one game all year.
It was there main focus after the defeat last year.
Quote from: Feckitt on November 11, 2013, 11:47:03 AM
Were they charging £7 for children yesterday? :o
Wouldn't have thought so. Kids got in for free in Newry last week.
In the present period (1996 onwards) Cross have won 10 Ulsters and been beaten 6 times in Ulster, but I think the only team that beat them and went on to win Ulster was The Loup in 2003.
Kilcoo have beaten Burren and Cross, so have every reason to be think that they can match the best in Ulster. You could say that Burren and Cross didn't play well, but some of this is down to close order defending from Kilcoo.
Kilcoo will not be easily beaten, they defend is sticky and they hold possession when they have it. That said, Ballinderry are in a good position of having experience as a vclub but not having been in the recent battles.
A comment on the ref, it is not often you hear praise for a ref but I have to say that McQuillan handled the game very well and got all the big calls correct. He was helped as well by 2 teams more or less trying to play the game better than the precious week. The 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints. I was too far away from the Kilcoo on to comment on it. The penalty was clear-cut.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
A comment on the ref, it is not often you hear praise for a ref but I have to say that McQuillan handled the game very well and got all the big calls correct. He was helped as well by 2 teams more or less trying to play the game better than the precious week. The 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints. I was too far away from the Kilcoo on to comment on it. The penalty was clear-cut.
would have to disagree there, anytime any kilcoo players slowed up a free etc the ball was moved forward yet when cross were at the same craic, and dragging lads down preventing runs the same did not apply. he gave a throw ball for a kilcoo player taking to long on a free out resulting in a cross score, I thought most of the 50-50 decisions went cross's way. he was even wearing the cross colours :)
I think the ref was fair enough, Kilcoo were blatently and persistently delaying frees and he moved the ball up a few times. It worked as they stopped doing this to the same extent.
QuoteThe 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints.
The black card rule will have an interesting effect. It may reduce the number of rugby tackles and consequent retaliations.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 11, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
I think the ref was fair enough, Kilcoo were blatently and persistently delaying frees and he moved the ball up a few times. It worked as they stopped doing this to the same extent.
QuoteThe 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints.
The black card rule will have an interesting effect. It may reduce the number of rugby tackles and consequent retaliations.
Exactly what I said yesterday. I suppose Kilcoo are making the most of it this year as they're fucked from next season :P
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 11, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
I think the ref was fair enough, Kilcoo were blatently and persistently delaying frees and he moved the ball up a few times. It worked as they stopped doing this to the same extent.
QuoteThe 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints.
The black card rule will have an interesting effect. It may reduce the number of rugby tackles and consequent retaliations.
Exactly what I said yesterday. I suppose Kilcoo are making the most of it this year as they're fucked from next season :P
I played a hurling match yesterday (I know Nov!!) anyways the referee played the advantage rule throughout the match, he didn't play the pulling down or blocking off rule but the advantage rule was very good, worked really well on a couple of occasions
Amazing effort by cross given the missing players. No other club would have been as competitive. Aaron Kernan getting injured was the final straw. With him on board i would have strongly fancied them for Ulster.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 11, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
I think the ref was fair enough, Kilcoo were blatently and persistently delaying frees and he moved the ball up a few times. It worked as they stopped doing this to the same extent.
QuoteThe 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints.
The black card rule will have an interesting effect. It may reduce the number of rugby tackles and consequent retaliations.
Exactly what I said yesterday. I suppose Kilcoo are making the most of it this year as they're fucked from next season :P
How will the black card work in extra time, re the count of the number of cards allowed per team?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 11, 2013, 05:19:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 11, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
I think the ref was fair enough, Kilcoo were blatently and persistently delaying frees and he moved the ball up a few times. It worked as they stopped doing this to the same extent.
QuoteThe 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints.
The black card rule will have an interesting effect. It may reduce the number of rugby tackles and consequent retaliations.
Exactly what I said yesterday. I suppose Kilcoo are making the most of it this year as they're fucked from next season :P
How will the black card work in extra time, re the count of the number of cards allowed per team?
A good question. I hope it works better than the current rules. How is it right that a team who gets a player sent off in ordinary time can bring a player in and yet yellow cards carry into extra time?
On the referee yesterday I thought he did a fair good job. One point though. At one time a Kilcoo player fell and dropped the ball. He then played the ball away with his hand. The referee gave a free. There was a discussion on the Armagh forum a couple of weeks ago and the rule seems to suggest that it should not have been a free.
On the point of the black card a problem of note is that in some instances it is too specific. Yesterday Laverty held Stephen Kernan in a rugby style hold and continued to do so after the free was given. In an attempt to break free Kernan swung his arm back, caught Laverty, and got sent off. Next year if he gets caught like that his inclination will be to fall to get Laverty black carded.
odds from PP for the weekend;
kilcoo evs draw 6/1 ballinderry 11/10
glenswilly 1/5 draw 11/1 roslea 4/1
well done to kilcoo. yesterday was a great boost for down football. some effort by the whole team but thought paul greenan, paul devlin and ryan Johnson were immense.
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
The same question was asked about the Mc Entees :)
On the point of the black card a problem of note is that in some instances it is too specific. Yesterday Laverty held Stephen Kernan in a rugby style hold and continued to do so after the free was given. In an attempt to break free Kernan swung his arm back, caught Laverty, and got sent off. Next year if he gets caught like that his inclination will be to fall to get Laverty black carded.
Kernan will still get the red card for swinging the arm back though, thye haven't changed that rule
I'm fairly sure he's saying that Kernan wouldn't have swung his arm but would have simply went to ground.
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 11, 2013, 08:20:46 PM
I'm fairly sure he's saying that Kernan wouldn't have swung his arm but would have simply went to ground.
These fouls will continue regardless of the black card I fear, they seem to be instinctive
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2013, 09:01:31 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 11, 2013, 08:20:46 PM
I'm fairly sure he's saying that Kernan wouldn't have swung his arm but would have simply went to ground.
These fouls will continue regardless of the black card I fear, they seem to be instinctive
You are probably right. A player like Kernan should know better but sometimes frustration wins out.
Just watched the highlights on TG4. Although the sending off was correct could someone please tell Kilcoo players to stop pressing referees to book or send players off so demonstratively. Another soccer trait we could do without in Gaelic.
Laverty is very easy to hit like that too with the height of him. Might sound silly but that against a big(ish) guy and it's near chest level. The penalty as well wouldn't have happened against a big guy.
Great win for Kilcoo yesterday, i appreciate Cross were not at full strength and can assure you Kilcoo would rather have played the same team that beat us in last years Ulster final.
A game that we were missing Niall McEvoy, Felim McGreevy, Roger Morgan (London) Martin McClean (Netherlands) Dominic McEvoy, Barry Kane. Yesterday we were missing Felim McGreevy, Anthony Devlin, Jerome Johnston, , Donal Kane and Ciaran McClean. These players named would walk on to most Down division 1 teams. Most Down posters can back me on this!
You can only play whats put in front of you. Over the Two games we had Cross almost away twice but had to admire there determination and never over til its over attitude.
Its going to hard to rise again for Sunday but we'll give it a rattle.
Is it just me, or is Ballinderry @ 11/10 not a serious price??
Quote from: crossfire on November 11, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
The same question was asked about the Mc Entees :)
I'm asking a serious question, who are the players to watch for? Or will Cross be in the Ulster doldrums for a few years?
Franny Hanratty injured or leave panel when not picked earlier in year BC?
A player that had a bit of potential
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 0-14 Clonoe O'Rahillys(Tyrone) 0-10
Celtic Park
Scorers:
Ballinderry: R Bell 0-4 (1f), A Devlin 0-3, C Gilligan 0-2, D McKinless, D McGuckin, C Devlin , C Nevin, D Lawn 0-1 each.
Clonoe: D McNulty 0-4 (1f), C McAlickey 0-3 (3f), PJ Lavery 0-2, RT O'Neill 0-1.
Teams:
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: E Muldoon for Lawn (42), D Conway for D McKinless (56), M Harney for Wilson (60), Kevin M McGuckin for J Conway (62).
Clonoe M O'Neill; D Quinn, A Brady, C O'Neill; J McClure, S McCann, PJ Lavery; S McNulty, S O'Hagan; R T O'Neill, C Doris, P Doris; P Coney, D McNulty, C McAliskey. Subs: G Coney for S McCann (13), R R O'Neill for P Doris (44), D McClure for C McAliskey (52), S Hughes for J McClure (58).
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 1-10 St Galls(Antrim) 0-10
Ballybofey
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí: M Murphy 1-4 (1-0 penalty, 1f, two 50s), G McFadden 0-3 (3f), N Gallagher, K McFadden, B Farrelly 0-1 each.
St Galls: C McGourty 0-5 (4f), A Healy, K Niblock, S Burke, K Stewart, M Pollock 0-1 each.
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, E Ward, R Crawford; Caolan Kelly, J McDaid, J McFadden; N Gallagher, C Bonner; J Gibbons, G McFadden, D McGinley; Colin Kelly, M Murphy, K McFadden. Subs: C Gallagher for J McDaid (49), B Farrelly for K McFadden (53), R Diver for McGinley (60).
St Galls C Kerr; A McClean, C Brady; R Wilson, S Kelly, J McGeevy, A Healy; S Burke, A Gallagher; T O'Neill, K Niblock, K McGourty; C McGourty, M Pollock, N O'Neill. Subs: B Bradley for McGreevy (43), K Stewart for K McGourty (43), S O'Hara for N O'Neill (47), C Burke for S Burke (56).
Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-12 Ballinagh(Cavan) 0-11
Brewster Park
Scorers:
Roslea: Séamie Quigley 1-7 (5f, 1-0 penalty), Seán Quigley 0-4, S Lynch 0-1.
Ballinagh: K Smith 0-3, N McDermott 0-2 (2f), D Finnegan 0-2; P O'Reilly, T Moore, C Gumley, A Gaynor 0-1 each
Teams:
Roslea S Boyle; P Sherry, C Mulligan, C Quigley; M Beagan, N Cassidy, M Renfrew; K McMahon, J Sherry (capt); N Cosgrove; S McMahon, P Lynch, S Lynch; S Quigley, S Quigley. Subs: N McMahon for P Sherry, B Sherlock for S Lynch
Ballinagh D Beard; K McBride (capt), P Carroll, C Smith; D McInerney, N O'Reilly, P Bogue; P O'Reilly, T Moore; K Smith, E Brady, D Finnegan; C Gumley, N McDermott, T Smith. Subs: E McEvoy for McInerney, A Gaynor for Brady, B Carthy for T Smith, R O'Reilly for Gumley
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 2-09 Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07
Páirc Esler
Scorers:
Kilcoo: R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3f), P Devlin 0-3 (1f), P Greenan 1-0, Gerard McEvoy
Crossmaglen: T Kernan 0-6(all frees,) S Kernan 1-1, K Brennan 0-2, J Hanratty, M Aherne, C Cumiskey 0-1 each
Teams:
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, Aidan Branagan; P Devlin, A Devlin, R Johnston; J Johnston, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: F McGreevy for J Johnston (24), Aaron Branagan for A Devlin (39), J McClean for McGreevy (39), Sean Devlin for Gary McEvoy (52), S Devlin for A Branagan (70), M Devlin for R Johnston (76), N Morgan for M Devlin (80).
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, S Kernan; P Óg Grant, T Kernan, M McNamee; K Brennan, K Carragher, C Cumiskey. Subs: D McKenna for Brennan (43), C O'Neill for McNamee (53), M Boyce for Cumiskey (56), K Brennanfor Grant (66).
Scotstown(Monaghan) 0-10 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-08
Clones
Scorers:
Scotstown: K Hughes 0-2 (1f), C McCarthy 0-2 (2f), R Beggan 0-1 (a free), J Turley, S Carey, D Hughes, N Corrigan, B McGinnity 0-1 each.
Ballinderry: D Conway 1-0, C Gilligan 0-2 (2f), C Devlin 0-2 (1f), M McIver, A Devlin, D McGuckin, R Bell 0-1 each
Teams:
Scotstown R Beggan; D McArdle, D Morgan, M Duffy; P Keenan, W Carroll, E Caulfield; F Caulfield, J Turley; K Hughes, S Carey, D Hughes; P O'Hara, N Corrigan, C McCarthy. Subs: B McGinnity for E Caulfield, O Heaphey for N Corrigan, Fergal McPhillips for P Keenan, D McCague for F Caulfield, N Corrigan for S carey.
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: K McGuckin for R Wilson, E Muldoon for A Devlin, D Conway for D McKinless, J Bateson for M McIver.
Sunday 10th November
Quarter Final Replay:
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-08 Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 3-10 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07 (again)
Athletic Grounds
Scorers:
Crossmaglen Crossmaglen: T Kernan 1-3 (3f), C Cumiskey 0-2, M Aherne, K Carragher, A Cunningham 0-1 each
Kilcoo P Devlin 2-2 (1-0 pen), R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3f), Gerard McEvoy, N McEvoy, J McClean 0-1 each
Teams:
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, T Kernan; M McNamee, S Kernan, C Cumiskey; K Brennan, K Carragher, C O'Neill. Subs: P Óg Grant for McNamee (35), M Boyce for O'Neill (35), A Cunningham for K Brennan (47), K McShane for Hanratty (79)
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, A Branagan; P Devlin, J McClean, R Johnston; N Morgan, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: S Devlin for Gary McEvoy (54), J Johnston for Morgan (54), F McGreevy for J Johnston (79)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) v Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh)
2-30pm Omagh
Ciarán Branagan
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) v Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry)
2-30pm Athletic Grounds
Martin Higgins
Sunday 1st December
Final
QuoteFranny Hanratty injured or leave panel when not picked earlier in year BC?
Hanratty stormed off during the first Kilcoo game, did he not?
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 12, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: crossfire on November 11, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
The same question was asked about the Mc Entees :)
I'm asking a serious question, who are the players to watch for? Or will Cross be in the Ulster doldrums for a few years?
Look, the cub keeps producing players year on year. The current squad is relatively young, Stephen and Aaron are just 30 and outside of TK, Mickey Mc, Fish and one or 2 others the rest are 25 and under. I don't really count Paul Hearty as he can play as long as his body lets him. The core of the team are there for the next 5-6 years minimum, I reckon that there will be not retirements of any real note in the next 4 years or so. If the team can tick over nicely over the next 3 years there is a fantastic bunch of players coming through who are now between 15 and 17 years old, they made last years u16 county final, won this years u16 final and this years Division 2 minor Double. They will be strong in minor next year and for the next 2-3 years. They are a good bunch and will be blending in nicely with the current squad.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 12, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
QuoteFranny Hanratty injured or leave panel when not picked earlier in year BC?
Hanratty stormed off during the first Kilcoo game, did he not?
No he wasn't togged out that day
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 12, 2013, 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 12, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: crossfire on November 11, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
The same question was asked about the Mc Entees :)
I'm asking a serious question, who are the players to watch for? Or will Cross be in the Ulster doldrums for a few years?
Look, the cub keeps producing players year on year. The current squad is relatively young, Stephen and Aaron are just 30 and outside of TK, Mickey Mc, Fish and one or 2 others the rest are 25 and under. I don't really count Paul Hearty as he can play as long as his body lets him. The core of the team are there for the next 5-6 years minimum, I reckon that there will be not retirements of any real note in the next 4 years or so. If the team can tick over nicely over the next 3 years there is a fantastic bunch of players coming through who are now between 15 and 17 years old, they made last years u16 county final, won this years u16 final and this years Division 2 minor Double. They will be strong in minor next year and for the next 2-3 years. They are a good bunch and will be blending in nicely with the current squad.
Good to hear
Hanratty left the ground before the end of the Armagh County final.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
A comment on the ref, it is not often you hear praise for a ref but I have to say that McQuillan handled the game very well and got all the big calls correct. He was helped as well by 2 teams more or less trying to play the game better than the precious week. The 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints. I was too far away from the Kilcoo on to comment on it. The penalty was clear-cut.
The ref was poor - he gave everything to Cross, and I mean everything. I was completely neutral, but was happy when Kilcoo won because of it
Quote from: our_fella on November 12, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
Hanratty left the ground before the end of the Armagh County final.
Can't believe that a Cross player would do this?
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 12, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: crossfire on November 11, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Kilcoo won fair and square over the 2 games they whadthe strongest squad available and that was the key. Yesterday it was clear that the last 4 years really took their toll on a lot of bodies. Outside of the players unavailable there were a few playing with injuries and they were hampered. Anyway best of luck to Kilcoo. Ballinderry will be hard to beat and are really focused. Glenswilly are the one's who are really laughing here. They should beat roslea and will face a team who has played exceptionally physical games and the body can only do so much.
For us next year is next year. We will have players back and maybe players gone but we will be there and I have a feeling that we will have a big focus. Defeat hurts hard.
Are you running out of talent? What happens when the Kernans retire? It is still a sad fact that the rest of Armagh football has some way to go to catch you up.
The same question was asked about the Mc Entees :)
I'm asking a serious question, who are the players to watch for? Or will Cross be in the Ulster doldrums for a few years?
Watch out for the O'Neills, currently playing under 14 and under 16.
QuoteCan't believe that a Cross player would do this?
He left 10 minutes before Joe wanted to put him on.
QuoteWatch out for the O'Neills, currently playing under 14 and under 16.
Sure what football would there be in their family :P
Quote from: Oglach on November 11, 2013, 10:52:01 PM
Great win for Kilcoo yesterday, i appreciate Cross were not at full strength and can assure you Kilcoo would rather have played the same team that beat us in last years Ulster final.
A game that we were missing Niall McEvoy, Felim McGreevy, Roger Morgan (London) Martin McClean (Netherlands) Dominic McEvoy, Barry Kane. Yesterday we were missing Felim McGreevy, Anthony Devlin, Jerome Johnston, , Donal Kane and Ciaran McClean. These players named would walk on to most Down division 1 teams. Most Down posters can back me on this!
You can only play whats put in front of you. Over the Two games we had Cross almost away twice but had to admire there determination and never over til its over attitude.
Its going to hard to rise again for Sunday but we'll give it a rattle.
::)
A full strength Cross team would have swatted Kilcoo aside. There is absolutely not a shred of doubt about that.
Good luck on Sunday.
Quote from: haranguerer on November 12, 2013, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
A comment on the ref, it is not often you hear praise for a ref but I have to say that McQuillan handled the game very well and got all the big calls correct. He was helped as well by 2 teams more or less trying to play the game better than the precious week. The 2 sendings off for Cross were correct and borne completely out of frustration at the situation and we can have no complaints. I was too far away from the Kilcoo on to comment on it. The penalty was clear-cut.
The ref was poor - he gave everything to Cross, and I mean everything. I was completely neutral, but was happy when Kilcoo won because of it
did anybody else notice that the ref played just one minute of injury time at the end of normal time, there was at least 5 Min's that could have been played when you add in the stephen kernan injury with everything else, with crossmaglens tails up, injury time would have made a big difference,
Roslea 5/1 v Glenswilly!! Serious odds for a semi final!
Like the look off Roslea +5 @ 4/5!
Where are they 5-1?
Roslea 11/2 with Bet365
Quote from: FermGael on November 12, 2013, 09:57:27 PM
Where are they 5-1?
Here http://www.boylesportsucp.com/betting/?gi=20&sID=286.1
These are serious odds
Roslea are a good team and have 2 serious weapons in the Quigley brothers
They are well organised and were winning comfortably last week until they took there foot of the gas.
Glenswilly must be some outfit.
Quote from: FermGael on November 12, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
These are serious odds
Roslea are a good team and have 2 serious weapons in the Quigley brothers
They are well organised and were winning comfortably last week until they took there foot of the gas.
Glenswilly must be some outfit.
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They aren't, though the Fermanagh teams haven't been great since the great Gaels team a few years ago. We beat Tempo real handy last time out so the bookies are probably looking at that
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2013, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: FermGael on November 12, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
These are serious odds
Roslea are a good team and have 2 serious weapons in the Quigley brothers
They are well organised and were winning comfortably last week until they took there foot of the gas.
Glenswilly must be some outfit.
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They aren't, though the Fermanagh teams haven't been great since the great Gaels team a few years ago. We beat Tempo real handy last time out so the bookies are probably looking at that
Roslea have been competitive every time they have been in Ulster Club. Narrowly losing to Burren and Coalisland in the past. Those odds are Ott. Did Galls not get a great start against Tempo last year and after that Tempo came into the game
I would still fancy Glenswilly
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 13, 2013, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2013, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: FermGael on November 12, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
These are serious odds
Roslea are a good team and have 2 serious weapons in the Quigley brothers
They are well organised and were winning comfortably last week until they took there foot of the gas.
Glenswilly must be some outfit.
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They aren't, though the Fermanagh teams haven't been great since the great Gaels team a few years ago. We beat Tempo real handy last time out so the bookies are probably looking at that
Roslea have been competitive every time they have been in Ulster Club. Narrowly losing to Burren and Coalisland in the past. Those odds are Ott. Did Galls not get a great start against Tempo last year and after that Tempo came into the game
I would still fancy Glenswilly
We got a good start and Tempo, never lifted the 'Tempo' the whole game in fairness, we probably played in first gear if truth be told. Poor game. Think Tempo were still partying
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These are serious odds
Roslea are a good team and have 2 serious weapons in the Quigley brothers
They are well organised and were winning comfortably last week until they took there foot of the gas.
Glenswilly must be some outfit.
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They aren't, though the Fermanagh teams haven't been great since the great Gaels team a few years ago. We beat Tempo real handy last time out so the bookies are probably looking at that
Roslea have been competitive every time they have been in Ulster Club. Narrowly losing to Burren and Coalisland in the past. Those odds are Ott. Did Galls not get a great start against Tempo last year and after that Tempo came into the game
I would still fancy Glenswilly
We got a good start and Tempo, never lifted the 'Tempo' the whole game in fairness, we probably played in first gear if truth be told. Poor game. Think Tempo were still partying
I think Roslea will give Glenswilly a serious test. Sherry and Cosgrove are going to be very important to them. If they can edge the midfield battle Roslea are in with a shout.
What kind of attendance is expected in Armagh on Sunday?
QuoteWhat kind of attendance is expected in Armagh on Sunday?
A rougher and more uncouth kind of attendee than is usually found in Armagh, I imagine.
But a fair few of them, owing to the lack of TV.
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QuoteWhat kind of attendance is expected in Armagh on Sunday?
A rougher and more uncouth kind of attendee than is usually found in Armagh, I imagine.
But a fair few of them, owing to the lack of TV.
not possible, even if Linfield were playing Glasgow Rangers !!
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Quote from: FermGael on November 12, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
These are serious odds
Roslea are a good team and have 2 serious weapons in the Quigley brothers
They are well organised and were winning comfortably last week until they took there foot of the gas.
Glenswilly must be some outfit.
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They aren't, though the Fermanagh teams haven't been great since the great Gaels team a few years ago. We beat Tempo real handy last time out so the bookies are probably looking at that
Roslea have been competitive every time they have been in Ulster Club. Narrowly losing to Burren and Coalisland in the past. Those odds are Ott. Did Galls not get a great start against Tempo last year and after that Tempo came into the game
I would still fancy Glenswilly
We got a good start and Tempo, never lifted the 'Tempo' the whole game in fairness, we probably played in first gear if truth be told. Poor game. Think Tempo were still partying
I think Roslea will give Glenswilly a serious test. Sherry and Cosgrove are going to be very important to them. If they can edge the midfield battle Roslea are in with a shout.
Against us Glenswilly won a lot of ball in midfield, they found Gallagher with every kick I think. Stop that then it could be the winning of the game
Any team that beats St Gall's is a genuine contender. I know St Gall's aren't quite at the same level they were at a few years back but I just fancy Glenswilly to edge this one. Roslea look a good outfit though so would expect a tight affair, 1/2 points in it. Glenswilly can probably bottle up the threat of the Quigley's to an extent, but do Roslea have someone to quell Murphy?
Kilcoo/Ballinderry is a toss up. What do Kilcoo take from the Cross games? That they beat the best club side ever and reigning provincial champions; or did they scrape by a team that lacked any scoring threat and that had been decimated by injuries/absentees from it's normal line up? I'd lean towards the latter. Either way again only 1/2 points will be in it. Think it's time this Ballinderry team stepped up to the plate.
best of luck to kilcoo tomorrow. hopefully the kilcoo lads can dig deep again and grab the chance of a 2nd ulster final in a row. this opportunity doesn't come around to often so hopefully they can do the business for themselves and down football.
Shamrocks to beat the Klan by 2
Swilly to beat Roslea by 3
Put yer grannys house on it :-)
Quote from: SHEEDY on November 16, 2013, 06:57:26 PM
best of luck to kilcoo tomorrow. hopefully the kilcoo lads can dig deep again and grab the chance of a 2nd ulster final in a row. this opportunity doesn't come around to often so hopefully they can do the business for themselves and down football.
Wouldn't it be nice for all the teams to have a level playing field in this competition. Ballinderry have had two weeks to prepare for this game whist Kilcoo one week, never mind the exertions, similar to how Ballinderry had all the time to prepare to play for Clonoe.
Good luck to all teams tomorrow.
another great game to be expected in armagh tomorrow, i think this is the ulster final whoever wins this one will lift the cup,,, ;) how in the name of our lord did brannigan get this red card lifted, :o
Quote from: get up there on November 16, 2013, 08:08:39 PM
another great game to be expected in armagh tomorrow, i think this is the ulster final whoever wins this one will lift the cup,,, ;) how in the name of our lord did brannigan get this red card lifted, :o
where did you hear that??
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another great game to be expected in armagh tomorrow, i think this is the ulster final whoever wins this one will lift the cup,,, ;) how in the name of our lord did brannigan get this red card lifted, :o
where did you hear that??
apparently daryl brannigan got his red card overturned on Friday night at an appeal hearing with the ulster council.
And rightly so. Sure it was a tick at best. ::)
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on November 16, 2013, 09:30:51 PM
And rightly so. Sure it was a tick at best. ::)
A fair auld tick, 4 stitches worth of a tick. Best of luck to all involved from Ballinderry
QuoteAnd rightly so. Sure it was a tick at best.
It was a tick act, to be sure.
It does, again, raise serious questions about the disciplinary system in its current format. Don't get me wrong, Kilcoo were right in my opinion to try and free their player up for this weekend. But surely the system has to be overhauled completely to prevent things like this happening. The lad should be serving a suspension.
Regardless of how many stitches it caused, it was a harsh sending off.
Glenswilly won't be able to bottle up the threat of the Quigleys, and they'll be more of a threat than Murphy when the ball goes up to them, but I don't think Roslea will win enough round the middle to make that happen often enough.
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best of luck to kilcoo tomorrow. hopefully the kilcoo lads can dig deep again and grab the chance of a 2nd ulster final in a row. this opportunity doesn't come around to often so hopefully they can do the business for themselves and down football.
Wouldn't it be nice for all the teams to have a level playing field in this competition. Ballinderry have had two weeks to prepare for this game whist Kilcoo one week, never mind the exertions, similar to how Ballinderry had all the time to prepare to play for Clonoe.
If Kilcoo had won the first match agin Cross they would have had plenty of time.
QuoteIf Kilcoo had won the first match agin Cross they would have had plenty of time.
Cross were gracious enough to give them a headstart.
Probably the one thing that might concern Kilcoo was that they allowed Cross come back twice.
Does anyone know if the Kilcoo v Ballinderry match will be streamed?? Currently out of the country but would love to watch it!
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Does anyone know if the Kilcoo v Ballinderry match will be streamed?? Currently out of the country but would love to watch it!
?? webstream. Does anyone know??
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Does anyone know if the Kilcoo v Ballinderry match will be streamed?? Currently out of the country but would love to watch it!
?? webstream. Does anyone know??
Highly unlikely.
Athletic Grounds or the radio.
Lots of rain but the chip vans should be inside again.
Armagh TV maybe?
QuoteArmagh TV maybe?
The only place you'll see Armagh TV is on the big screen in the Athletic Grounds. They don't hold the rights to stream Ulster games.
Is there a link to listen to game online? Keeps saying not available on my device
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Is there a link to listen to game online? Keeps saying not available on my device
BBC radio ulster- audio will be streamed on the BBC sportni website
HT Glenswilly 2-5 Roslea 0-5
Colin Kelly and Michael Murphy with the goals.
(2nd half, 35min) Ballinderry 1-7 (10) Kilcoo 0-5 (5)
Armagh GAA twitter is giving score updates
Another goal for Colin Kelly, Seamus Quigley pulls one back from a penalty, Glenswilly then miss a sitter.
Glenswilly 3-6 Roslea 1-7
Glenswilly keeper lets a long ball into the square drop into the net. Three goals in a few minutes.
Glenswilly 3-6 Roslea 2-7
Two quick points in reply from Glenswilly.
Glenswilly 3-8 Roslea 2-7
3-9 2-7
6 minutes to go in Omagh.
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3-9 2-7
6 minutes to go in Omagh.
who won the 1st game
Ballinderry 1-10 0-09 Kilcoo ft
Shamrocks down to 13 men for last 20. Scott and McGuckian see red. Some going
Glenswilly won 3-9 to 2-8.
Meet Ballinderry in final.
Only fourth Donegal team to reach final.
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3-9 2-7
6 minutes to go in Omagh.
who won the 1st game
Not sure what game you're referring to, but according to Highland, Donegal hammered Tyrone in the vocational schools final.
I had a feeling Glenswilly would be dark horses for Ulster. I think they'll win it.
Makings of a good final. Personally am glad Ballinderry won today as I know a few from the area. I am also not fond of the way Kilcoo play football. Great to see a player like Murphy get to play a club final too. I assume Omagh would be sensible venue for final. May the best team win.
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3-9 2-7
6 minutes to go in Omagh.
who won the 1st game
Not sure what game you're referring to, but according to Highland, Donegal hammered Tyrone in the vocational schools final.
was foreglen and truagh not playing in IFC
Aaron Cunningham is happy anyway. On Twitter.
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
Quote from: Throw ball on November 17, 2013, 03:59:18 PM
Makings of a good final. Personally am glad Ballinderry won today as I know a few from the area. I am also not fond of the way Kilcoo play football. Great to see a player like Murphy get to play a club finyal too. I assume Omagh would be sensible venue for final. May the best team win.
Not fond of the way kilcoo play football? Against cross they scored one of the best team goals I've ever seen, working it up from the 21 at speed with about 20 passes before it was buried. What kind of football do you like?
Well done Ballinderry, better team won. A game too far for Kilcoo this year but have entertained us for 3 weeks in a row, back to back county titles and involved in 2 of the best club games i have been at.
ballinderry played super football in first half but fell into the trap of pulling 12/13 men behind ball and at a stage kilcoo got within 3points but they seen it out. Poor challenge by mcguckian which could see him miss final but think they have enough to win ulster
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Well done Ballinderry, better team won. A game too far for Kilcoo this year but have entertained us for 3 weeks in a row, back to back county titles and involved in 2 of the best club games i have been at.
ballinderry played super football in first half but fell into the trap of pulling 12/13 men behind ball and at a stage kilcoo got within 3points but they seen it out. Poor challenge by mcguckian which could see him miss final but think they have enough to win ulster
not a chance - sure the way the thing is set up at the minute no-one misses big games now - even if they murdered somebody on the pitch they would be out on bail for the next match.
Not any clubs fault - just like Sean cavanaghs rugby tackle they are only playing by the rules. If they can appeal and get him off then fair enough
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Well done Ballinderry, better team won. A game too far for Kilcoo this year but have entertained us for 3 weeks in a row, back to back county titles and involved in 2 of the best club games i have been at.
ballinderry played super football in first half but fell into the trap of pulling 12/13 men behind ball and at a stage kilcoo got within 3points but they seen it out. Poor challenge by mcguckian which could see him miss final but think they have enough to win ulster
not a chance - sure the way the thing is set up at the minute no-one misses big games now - even if they murdered somebody on the pitch they would be out on bail for the next match.
Not any clubs fault - just like Sean cavanaghs rugby tackle they are only playing by the rules. If they can appeal and get him off then fair enough
I didnt think there was much in it. He did push Johnston away and connected with his face in doing so. Johnston was up and grand, heard the uproar from the stand and went down clutching his face.
Higgins did not have a good afternoon.
Well done Ballinderry.
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Higgins had a shocker, too many players bad mouthing and pushing players then lying down if lee harvey Oswald was taking pot shots from the stand, terrible stuff, The McGuckin Incident was very little, the player didnt even go down, hear the roar from the crowd , looked over at the lineman then went down, the soccer disease has truly took to the Gaelic, Ballinderry dominated at midfield and probably should have had the ball in the net twice before they actually did. Were winning handy enough until the senting off. Enda Muldoon coming on steadied the ship again, its a pity hes 36, its the only reason why he doesnt start.Had it stayed 15 on 15 Ballinderry would have won handy. Ballinderry played 10 times better the day than against Scotstown.
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Quote from: sammymaguire on November 07, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
Will Ballinderry give the winners of the Cross / Kilcoo tie a real game? Hears they were poor against Scotstown, although they look very impressive on paper.
Glenswilly must be quietly fancying their chances of winning this outright too if all the heavyweights wear each other out...
Fair play to both clubs who will contest this years Ulster club final - should be a good game. Ballinderry slight favourites now?
This game wasnt even rough but 4 men sent the line, go figure. This guy makes the duffys from sligo look like class acts
Fair play to Ballinderry today - over the 60 minutes they looked the hungrier. Can they repeat it against Glenswilly?
When it was 15 v 15 Kilcoo looked tired, they were second to most 50/50 battles - the physical & mental tussle against Cross definitely had an impact.
Even at 15 v 14 Ballinderry looked the stronger
15 v 13 it was an even game!!
The ref didn't have his finest hour, but to be honest he sent McGuckin off on the report of the Linesman, Scott was a 2nd yellow so can have little complaints. I didn't see why he sent off Johnston or Greenan.
What annoyed me from the ref was his inconsistency, he tried to book players at the start to set down his mark, but then allowed worse actions to go unchallenged later in the game.
The final will be very interesting, Donegal teams have had a bit of a voodoo over Derry in recent years and with Gallagher & Murphy they will certainly fancy their chances.
Great to see Raymond Wilkinson back out, back playing in the Semi final of an Ulster in the same season as doing your cruciate is some achievement
well done to ballinderry. the better team won today, no thanks to a very poor ref. kilcoo can be proud of their championship campaign, injuries and weary bodies finally caught up with them. think we seen the ulster winners today.
Well done Ballinderry+Glenswilly-
Obviously,Ballinderry knew to get into their weary opponents early-who knows how much they'd have won by with their full 15
Hard to believe that some on here thought Kilcoo were favourites for Ulster,yet they were'nt even favourites to win their semi-final(shakes head ;D ;D)
Quote from: MK on November 17, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
Well done Ballinderry+Glenswilly-
Obviously,Ballinderry knew to get into their weary opponents early-who knows how much they'd have won by with their full 15
Hard to believe that some on here thought Kilcoo were favourites for Ulster,yet they were'nt even favourites to win their semi-final(shakes head ;D ;D)
Ladbrokes had kilcoo10/11 fans.hope kilcoo go on to win ulster soon.i think they deserve one after the entertainment they,ve given this past two years.yes kilcoo are well able to match cross in the physical stakes but if they weren't they,d be trampled over.
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Quote from: MK on November 17, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
Well done Ballinderry+Glenswilly-
Obviously,Ballinderry knew to get into their weary opponents early-who knows how much they'd have won by with their full 15
Hard to believe that some on here thought Kilcoo were favourites for Ulster,yet they were'nt even favourites to win their semi-final(shakes head ;D ;D)
Ladbrokes had kilcoo10/11 fans.hope kilcoo go on to win ulster soon.i think they deserve one after the entertainment they,ve given this past two years.yes kilcoo are well able to match cross in the physical stakes but if they weren't they,d be trampled over.
Matching Crossmaglen is no guarantee of an Ulster title unfortunately(this year anyway ;)
Ladbrokes may have had the Magpies odds on ,however:
PP,Bet365,Boyles and numerous other firms had the Derry champions as CLEAR favourites on the day-a complete reversal of the knee jerk reaction that made Kilcoo favourites after they beat a severely weakened reigning Armagh and Ulster champions
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 17, 2013, 07:47:34 PM
Higgins had a shocker, too many players bad mouthing and pushing players then lying down if lee harvey Oswald was taking pot shots from the stand, terrible stuff, The McGuckin Incident was very little, the player didnt even go down, hear the roar from the crowd , looked over at the lineman then went down, the soccer disease has truly took to the Gaelic, Ballinderry dominated at midfield and probably should have had the ball in the net twice before they actually did. Were winning handy enough until the senting off. Enda Muldoon coming on steadied the ship again, its a pity hes 36, its the only reason why he doesnt start.Had it stayed 15 on 15 Ballinderry would have won handy. Ballinderry played 10 times better the day than against Scotstown.
Is Muldoons recent injury the reason he isn't starting? Has he not missed a lot of this season through injury?
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 0-14 Clonoe O'Rahillys(Tyrone) 0-10
Celtic Park
Scorers:
Ballinderry R Bell 0-4 (1f), A Devlin 0-3, C Gilligan 0-2, D McKinless, D McGuckin, C Devlin , C Nevin, D Lawn 0-1 each.
Clonoe D McNulty 0-4 (1f), C McAlickey 0-3 (3f), PJ Lavery 0-2, RT O'Neill 0-1.
Teams:
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: E Muldoon for Lawn (42), D Conway for D McKinless (56), M Harney for Wilson (60), Kevin M McGuckin for J Conway (62).
Clonoe M O'Neill; D Quinn, A Brady, C O'Neill; J McClure, S McCann, PJ Lavery; S McNulty, S O'Hagan; R T O'Neill, C Doris, P Doris; P Coney, D McNulty, C McAliskey. Subs: G Coney for S McCann (13), R R O'Neill for P Doris (44), D McClure for C McAliskey (52), S Hughes for J McClure (58).
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 1-10 St Galls(Antrim) 0-10
Ballybofey
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí M Murphy 1-4 (1-0 penalty, 1f, two 50s), G McFadden 0-3 (3f), N Gallagher, K McFadden, B Farrelly 0-1 each.
St Galls C McGourty 0-5 (4f), A Healy, K Niblock, S Burke, K Stewart, M Pollock 0-1 each.
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, E Ward, R Crawford; Caolan Kelly, J McDaid, J McFadden; N Gallagher, C Bonner; J Gibbons, G McFadden, D McGinley; Colin Kelly, M Murphy, K McFadden. Subs: C Gallagher for J McDaid (49), B Farrelly for K McFadden (53), R Diver for McGinley (60).
St Galls C Kerr; A McClean, C Brady; R Wilson, S Kelly, J McGeevy, A Healy; S Burke, A Gallagher; T O'Neill, K Niblock, K McGourty; C McGourty, M Pollock, N O'Neill. Subs: B Bradley for McGreevy (43), K Stewart for K McGourty (43), S O'Hara for N O'Neill (47), C Burke for S Burke (56).
Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-12 Ballinagh(Cavan) 0-11
Brewster Park
Scorers:
Roslea Séamie Quigley 1-7 (5f, 1-0 penalty), Seán Quigley 0-4, S Lynch 0-1.
Ballinagh K Smith 0-3, N McDermott 0-2 (2f), D Finnegan 0-2; P O'Reilly, T Moore, C Gumley, A Gaynor 0-1 each
Teams:
Roslea S Boyle; P Sherry, C Mulligan, C Quigley; M Beagan, N Cassidy, M Renfrew; K McMahon, J Sherry (capt); N Cosgrove; S McMahon, P Lynch, S Lynch; S Quigley, S Quigley. Subs: N McMahon for P Sherry, B Sherlock for S Lynch
Ballinagh D Beard; K McBride (capt), P Carroll, C Smith; D McInerney, N O'Reilly, P Bogue; P O'Reilly, T Moore; K Smith, E Brady, D Finnegan; C Gumley, N McDermott, T Smith. Subs: E McEvoy for McInerney, A Gaynor for Brady, B Carthy for T Smith, R O'Reilly for Gumley
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 2-09 Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07
Páirc Esler
Scorers:
Kilcoo R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3f), P Devlin 0-3 (1f), P Greenan 1-0, Gerard McEvoy
Crossmaglen T Kernan 0-6(all frees,) S Kernan 1-1, K Brennan 0-2, J Hanratty, M Aherne, C Cumiskey 0-1 each
Teams:
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, Aidan Branagan; P Devlin, A Devlin, R Johnston; J Johnston, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: F McGreevy for J Johnston (24), Aaron Branagan for A Devlin (39), J McClean for McGreevy (39), Sean Devlin for Gary McEvoy (52), S Devlin for A Branagan (70), M Devlin for R Johnston (76), N Morgan for M Devlin (80).
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, S Kernan; P Óg Grant, T Kernan, M McNamee; K Brennan, K Carragher, C Cumiskey. Subs: D McKenna for Brennan (43), C O'Neill for McNamee (53), M Boyce for Cumiskey (56), K Brennanfor Grant (66).
Scotstown(Monaghan) 0-10 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-08
Clones
Scorers:
Scotstown K Hughes 0-2 (1f), C McCarthy 0-2 (2f), R Beggan 0-1 (a free), J Turley, S Carey, D Hughes, N Corrigan, B McGinnity 0-1 each.
Ballinderry D Conway 1-0, C Gilligan 0-2 (2f), C Devlin 0-2 (1f), M McIver, A Devlin, D McGuckin, R Bell 0-1 each
Teams:
Scotstown R Beggan; D McArdle, D Morgan, M Duffy; P Keenan, W Carroll, E Caulfield; F Caulfield, J Turley; K Hughes, S Carey, D Hughes; P O'Hara, N Corrigan, C McCarthy. Subs: B McGinnity for E Caulfield, O Heaphey for N Corrigan, Fergal McPhillips for P Keenan, D McCague for F Caulfield, N Corrigan for S carey.
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: K McGuckin for R Wilson, E Muldoon for A Devlin, D Conway for D McKinless, J Bateson for M McIver.
Sunday 10th November
Quarter Final Replay:
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-08 Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 3-10 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07 (again)
Athletic Grounds
Scorers:
Crossmaglen T Kernan 1-3 (3f), C Cumiskey 0-2, M Aherne, K Carragher, A Cunningham 0-1 each
Kilcoo P Devlin 2-2 (1-0 pen), R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3f), Gerard McEvoy, N McEvoy, J McClean 0-1 each
Teams:
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, T Kernan; M McNamee, S Kernan, C Cumiskey; K Brennan, K Carragher, C O'Neill. Subs: P Óg Grant for McNamee (35), M Boyce for O'Neill (35), A Cunningham for K Brennan (47), K McShane for Hanratty (79)
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, A Branagan; P Devlin, J McClean, R Johnston; N Morgan, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: S Devlin for Gary McEvoy (54), J Johnston for Morgan (54), F McGreevy for J Johnston (79)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 3-09 Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 2-08
Omagh
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí C Kelly 2-1, M Murphy 1-2 (2f), G McFadden 0-3 (2f), C Bonner 0-1, J Gibbons 0-1, D McGinley 0-1
Roslea Séamus Quigley 1-4 (1-0 penalty, 2f), C Mulligan 1-0, J McMahon 0-1, P Lynch 0-1, K Cosgrove 0-1, D Reilly 0-1
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, R Crawford, K McFadden; C Kelly, JP McDaid, E Ward; N Gallagher, C Bonner; J McFadden, J Gibbons, C Kelly, D McGinley, G McFadden, M Murphy. Subs: B Farrelly for McGinley (52 mins), C Gallagher for Kelly (55 mins), R Diver for McFadden (59 mins), B Molloy for Gibbons (61 mins)
Roslea S Boyle, N McMahon, C Mulligan, C Quigley, M Beagan N Cassidy, J McMahon, K Cosgrove, J Sherry, N Cosgrove, S McMahon, P Lynch, M Renfrew, Seamus Quigley, Sean Quigley. Subs: D Reilly for N McMahon (28 mins), C Sherlock for S McMahon (44 ), S Lynch for McMahon (55 ).
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 0-09 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-10
Athletic Grounds
Scorers:
Kilcoo D O'Hanlon 0-3 (3f), P Devlin 0-2 (1f), S O'Hanlon 0-1, C Laverty 0-1, J Johnston 0-1, S Devlin 0-1
Ballinderry M McIver 1-2, C Devlin 0-3(3f), R Bell 0-2, C Gilligan 0-2, D McGuckin 0-1
Teams:
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, A Branagan; P Devlin, N Morgan, R Johnston; J McClean, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: J Johnston for Morgan (Half Time), S Devlin for McClean (40 mins)
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, KM McGuckin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: D Conway for KM McGuckin (37 mins), E Muldoon for Gilligan (53 mins), A Devlin for D McKinless , F Bell for D McGuckin (both 57 mins), P Crozier for Wilson (60 mins)
Sunday 1st December
Final
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) v Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry)
3-00pm Omagh
With Kilcoo getting beat, what does that say about Crossmaglen?
One life, one club, one holiday, one year out...
It says Cross are human. No club can win ulsters every year.
Well the word going around the Monday Club in Cross is that it was all Jamie Clarke's fault.....splitter!!!!
The absence of Aaron Kernan was important and other absences added up.
Plenty of comments earlier in the year that Armagh wouldn't be any use until they had Clarke and Kernan.
As an ignorant Free Stater, TG4 highlights last night were the first I've seen of Ballinderry..looked very impressive. Serious forward line. Bell has massive potential. Gilligan is decent obviously, Colly Devlin is handy and that McGuckin lad half forward kicked one lethal point. And then you had this legend with no.4 on his back scoring 1-2! Can someone at the game tell me if that was a deliberate ploy to push him up on what Kilcoo thought would be a spare man in their half back line? Looked that way and really worked out well if so.
Didn't get to see Ballinderry's defence tested much in the highlights, although they were ran through far too easily despite having 12 inside their 45 at one stage..would assume they don't make a habit of it?
Ballinderry were 5/1 for Ulster a while back..wish I'd put more than the 10 yoyos on it now. Think they will have too much skill and pace for Glenswilly based on what little I've seen, but then again a couple of high balls into Murphy can change a whole game..
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2013, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: regal on October 22, 2013, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: regal on October 14, 2013, 11:00:07 AM
A summary of those left I believe:
Antrim = St Galls
Armagh = Cross / Cullyhanna
Cavan = Ballinagh
Derry = Ballinderry
Down = Burren / Kilcoo
Donegal = Glenswilly / Killybegs
Fermanagh = Roslea
Monaghan = Scotstown
Tyrone = Clonoe
Quarter final draw:
Ballinderry / Clonoe v Scotstown
Burren / Kilcoo v Cross / Cullyhanna
Glenswilly / Killybegs v St Galls
Ballinagh v Roslea
So who is going to win the ulster club? Can we break these teams into 3 categories:
No chance - Clonoe / Cullyhanna / Ballinagh / Glenswilly / Killybegs / Kilcoo
A glimmer of a chance - Scotstown / Ballinderry / Roslea / Cross
Realistic contenders for ulster & AI = Burren / St Galls
I fancy Burren to come good this year and make the most of Crossmaglen's absentees
Fair play to Kilcoo. Despite the money Burren throw at it they don't seem to have the same drive in them as previous eras.
No easy games from here on in!! All teams will expect to do well against the teams they are playing
You're starting to sound like me!!!! You boys have a clear run to the final, Glenswilly would be your only threat and you should deal with them comfortably. I reckon the winners of Scotstown and Ballinderry will be the eventual winners.
Quote from: EC Unique on November 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
2 weeks behind me :P
Quote from: EC Unique on November 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
You've changed your tune..
Quote from: EC Unique on October 14, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
[Ballinderry will need to have improved a lot from last year if they are to beat Clonoe out the gate. Errigal beat them last year in a close enough affair and I can tell you that Clone of 2013 are every bit as good as Errigal of 2012 and maybe even a bit better.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on November 19, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
You've changed your tune..
Quote from: EC Unique on October 14, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
[Ballinderry will need to have improved a lot from last year if they are to beat Clonoe out the gate. Errigal beat them last year in a close enough affair and I can tell you that Clone of 2013 are every bit as good as Errigal of 2012 and maybe even a bit better.
On the 14th October I thought it would be a Cross v St Galls final. Based on games seen and performances since that date I have changed my opinion also.
Quote from: LeoMc on November 19, 2013, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on November 19, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
You've changed your tune..
Quote from: EC Unique on October 14, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
[Ballinderry will need to have improved a lot from last year if they are to beat Clonoe out the gate. Errigal beat them last year in a close enough affair and I can tell you that Clone of 2013 are every bit as good as Errigal of 2012 and maybe even a bit better.
On the 14th October I thought it would be a Cross v St Galls final. Based on games seen and performances since that date I have changed my opinion also.
Fair enough, I never thought Cross would get there this year. Having seem Ballinderry play this year several times, they will take some stopping. St Galls I only seen in their final v Cargin and they aren't near the force they once were.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on November 19, 2013, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on November 19, 2013, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on November 19, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
You've changed your tune..
Quote from: EC Unique on October 14, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
[Ballinderry will need to have improved a lot from last year if they are to beat Clonoe out the gate. Errigal beat them last year in a close enough affair and I can tell you that Clone of 2013 are every bit as good as Errigal of 2012 and maybe even a bit better.
On the 14th October I thought it would be a Cross v St Galls final. Based on games seen and performances since that date I have changed my opinion also.
Fair enough, I never thought Cross would get there this year. Having seem Ballinderry play this year several times, they will take some stopping. St Galls I only seen in their final v Cargin and they aren't near the force they once were.
4 years ago they won an Ulster & All-Ireland with a largely new and unknown team so I was not writing them off even with their missing players.
A left footed kicker they would have beaten Kilcoo the second day out and they have had the upper hand on the Shamrocks the past couple of years. I don't know how that would have played out in the Ballinderry players heads had they been facing Cross rather than Kilcoo.
I was only latching onto your picking at EC for changing his mind about Ballinderry.
Quote from: DennistheMenace on November 19, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 03, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Ballinderry looking good for Ulster I think.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
On what are you basing this? Have you seen all the other teams play? Have you even seen Ballinderry play?
Lets just call it a hunch! ;)
You've changed your tune..
Quote from: EC Unique on October 14, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
[Ballinderry will need to have improved a lot from last year if they are to beat Clonoe out the gate. Errigal beat them last year in a close enough affair and I can tell you that Clone of 2013 are every bit as good as Errigal of 2012 and maybe even a bit better.
I thought Clonoe would have beaten them and with more than a 6 day break they might have. After they beat Clonoe I then fancied them to win Ulster and at 6-1 I put my money where my mouth is.
Quote from: Orior on November 18, 2013, 08:00:21 PM
With Kilcoo getting beat, what does that say about Crossmaglen?
Ach, I wouldn't read too much into it.
It was plain after 5 mins that fatigue and injuries from the two extra time games v Cross was an overbearing factor in the game.
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on November 19, 2013, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 18, 2013, 08:00:21 PM
With Kilcoo getting beat, what does that say about Crossmaglen?
Ach, I wouldn't read too much into it.
It was plain after 5 mins that fatigue and injuries from the two extra time games v Cross was an overbearing factor in the game.
So although they beat us, ultimately in the end up we beat them? Maybe they should leave Seamus McFerran where he is then? ;)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 19, 2013, 01:34:21 PM
So although they beat us, ultimately in the end up we beat them?
I would expect had the roles been reversed, the same end result would have occurred.
In a game between any of the three teams, with a fit and rested squad, I wouldn't be putting down much money.
If it is believed that Ballinderry had an advantage over kilcoo owing to the extra weeks rest, I would argue that this advantage was earned. We won a tight game with Scotstown, something Kilcoo couldn't do in their game with Cross. This gave us the extra week.
If anyone should have complaint it would be Clonoe. Owing to their countys inability to get their championship finished, we had extra rest compared to them for the preliminary game.
Fatigue my hoop..its an hour of football lads, not an full iron man ! A weeks rest should be plenty
Quote from: J OGorman on November 19, 2013, 08:52:16 PM
Fatigue my hoop..its an hour of football lads, not an full iron man ! A weeks rest should be plenty
Factor in hard hits, mental fatigue, heavy legs, physical work that some of the players may also have to do, farming !! Flip there could be a stack of reasons to be burnt out, but I'm sure they would change the opportunity of getting to another Ulster final and beating Cross along the way
I see Gaelic Life reporting Jamie Clarke is back in Ireland. A few weeks too late for Cross.
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on November 19, 2013, 07:54:42 PM
If it is believed that Ballinderry had an advantage over kilcoo owing to the extra weeks rest, I would argue that this advantage was earned.
Here, not saying Ballinderry didn't fully deserve to win or that anything was unfair about Sunday; we had Cross beat twice in normal time and contrived to nearly throw it away both times.
Just saying I wouldn't read too much into the game on Sunday with regards the respective strengths of each of the three teams. Fatigue meant it was always a mismatch.
I have never had any bother playing games one week after another, never experienced 'fatigue' either. I think that this is a contagious excuse/term that seems to have seeped into peoples heads the past few years with reagrds to hurling and football.
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2013, 08:25:09 AM
I have never had any bother playing games one week after another, never experienced 'fatigue' either. I think that this is a contagious excuse/term that seems to have seeped into peoples heads the past few years with reagrds to hurling and football.
I know what you mean, I recall one of the years we won the Ulster we played 5 weeks on the trot, think it was 1999 and Armagh had been in the AI semi that year. The difference though is that the conditioning of the players is at a whole new level now and the hits they are taking are consistently harder than we suffered. The bodies are finding it harder to recover, I watch the training now and it is at a much greater pace than I ever saw.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2013, 08:25:09 AM
I have never had any bother playing games one week after another, never experienced 'fatigue' either. I think that this is a contagious excuse/term that seems to have seeped into peoples heads the past few years with reagrds to hurling and football.
I know what you mean, I recall one of the years we won the Ulster we played 5 weeks on the trot, think it was 1999 and Armagh had been in the AI semi that year. The difference though is that the conditioning of the players is at a whole new level now and the hits they are taking are consistently harder than we suffered. The bodies are finding it harder to recover, I watch the training now and it is at a much greater pace than I ever saw.
Don't get me wrong, some players might suffer if they have picked up knocks that don't get the time to heal but the majority of players should not be overly influenced from the previous weeks game. If anything, its the intensity of training during the week that will dictate the state of the players on matchday.
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2013, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2013, 08:25:09 AM
I have never had any bother playing games one week after another, never experienced 'fatigue' either. I think that this is a contagious excuse/term that seems to have seeped into peoples heads the past few years with reagrds to hurling and football.
I know what you mean, I recall one of the years we won the Ulster we played 5 weeks on the trot, think it was 1999 and Armagh had been in the AI semi that year. The difference though is that the conditioning of the players is at a whole new level now and the hits they are taking are consistently harder than we suffered. The bodies are finding it harder to recover, I watch the training now and it is at a much greater pace than I ever saw.
Don't get me wrong, some players might suffer if they have picked up knocks that don't get the time to heal but the majority of players should not be overly influenced from the previous weeks game. If anything, its the intensity of training during the week that will dictate the state of the players on matchday.
If a team like Kilcoo played extra time in consecutive weeks they are obviously going to be a bit fatigued.
Most club teams wouldn't go over board in training during the week, as they would have momentum of games. week by week.
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 20, 2013, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2013, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2013, 08:25:09 AM
I have never had any bother playing games one week after another, never experienced 'fatigue' either. I think that this is a contagious excuse/term that seems to have seeped into peoples heads the past few years with reagrds to hurling and football.
I know what you mean, I recall one of the years we won the Ulster we played 5 weeks on the trot, think it was 1999 and Armagh had been in the AI semi that year. The difference though is that the conditioning of the players is at a whole new level now and the hits they are taking are consistently harder than we suffered. The bodies are finding it harder to recover, I watch the training now and it is at a much greater pace than I ever saw.
Don't get me wrong, some players might suffer if they have picked up knocks that don't get the time to heal but the majority of players should not be overly influenced from the previous weeks game. If anything, its the intensity of training during the week that will dictate the state of the players on matchday.
If a team like Kilcoo played extra time in consecutive weeks they are obviously going to be a bit fatigued.
Most club teams wouldn't go over board in training during the week, as they would have momentum of games. week by week.
But surely an extra 30 minutes of a game is negated by taking it easy training wisae during the week. That, coupled with rubs from their physio and ice baths/recovery sessions should leave them in good nick for a game a full week later.
Playing conditions this time of year would take a lot more out of players, as grounds are heavy. Only so much a physio can do.
They would still have to do some sort of preparation for the next game in training, but not at as high intensity, still training.
Physically the extra games would make no difference but mentally it would be very draining to be looking down the fact of chasing a game and having to lift yourself. The legs feel heavier, the arms weaker, the kicks shorter, there isn't the same willingness to o the extra yard. Given the type of high tempo, high intensity game that Kilcoo play then it is harder to lift yourself when having to chase a lead.
I actually feel though that Ballinderry would have beaten Kilcoo anyway as they have the forwards to win most games. They will be very hard to beat this year as they have a nice blend of experience and youth.
There seems to be a general acceptance on here that gaelic games are played at a greater intensity nowadays, that training and matches are faster, that the hits are harder, that recovery is more important than it used to be, that playing a lot of games makes you more susceptible to injury, that burnout is an issue etc. I'm not sure that I entirely agree, though obviously the games and training has continuously evolved since it started, a lot of the comments appear to succumb to the "we're in a golden age" mindset. Which every generation since Adam has suffered from I might add.
Is there any empirical evidence of these changes, say over the last decade, which many people seem to think has heralded massive advances in the fitness of gaa players. Im sure these are the types of issues that SINI [for example] would be monitoring, does any of you know where this could be accessed?
QuoteJust saying I wouldn't read too much into the game on Sunday with regards the respective strengths of each of the three teams. Fatigue meant it was always a mismatch.
I suspect that this is mental as much as physical. Kilcoo were planning to beat Cross since last year, with the replay they just hadn't fully refocussed on Ballinderry.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2013, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: J OGorman on November 19, 2013, 08:52:16 PM
Fatigue my hoop..its an hour of football lads, not an full iron man ! A weeks rest should be plenty
Factor in hard hits, mental fatigue, heavy legs, physical work that some of the players may also have to do, farming !! Flip there could be a stack of reasons to be burnt out, but I'm sure they would change the opportunity of getting to another Ulster final and beating Cross along the way
Not to mention seeing to the odd sheep. ;)
Quote from: Keyser soze on November 20, 2013, 11:29:09 AM
There seems to be a general acceptance on here that gaelic games are played at a greater intensity nowadays, that training and matches are faster, that the hits are harder, that recovery is more important than it used to be, that playing a lot of games makes you more susceptible to injury, that burnout is an issue etc. I'm not sure that I entirely agree, though obviously the games and training has continuously evolved since it started, a lot of the comments appear to succumb to the "we're in a golden age" mindset. Which every generation since Adam has suffered from I might add.
Is there any empirical evidence of these changes, say over the last decade, which many people seem to think has heralded massive advances in the fitness of gaa players. Im sure these are the types of issues that SINI [for example] would be monitoring, does any of you know where this could be accessed?
Having trained with our seniors over the years and going back to 88/89 right through to when we lost the All Ireland (by the way I just trained, was no where near the panel lol) the difference in training preparation is night and day!! when we played in Ulster in the late 80's we were competitive and won most of our first round games, so we were decent enough at that level.
All our lads are members of gyms, the vast majority stick to a weights programme, taking protein shakes and eating well, they train longer and have high intensity challenge games with top teams from around Ulster and beyond. Also throw in your league games and it's a hard season, we've also lads with the county too.
88/89 we would have trained twice a week, and most of the lads had a few pints afterwards, went home and got a Chinese. That's just from my memory
I see Jamie Clarke is back in the country. A bit strange that he lands home a week after Cross are put out? Is all not well with him and big Joe?
QuoteI see Jamie Clarke is back in the country. A bit strange that he lands home a week after Cross are put out? Is all not well with him and big Joe?
I'd say the duration of his trip may have as much to do with US visa regulations as anything else.
Quote from: armaghniac on November 20, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
QuoteI see Jamie Clarke is back in the country. A bit strange that he lands home a week after Cross are put out? Is all not well with him and big Joe?
I'd say the duration of his trip may have as much to do with US visa regulations as anything else.
No, he and Joe fell out and Jamie is waiting until Joe steps down before he comes back.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2013, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 20, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
QuoteI see Jamie Clarke is back in the country. A bit strange that he lands home a week after Cross are put out? Is all not well with him and big Joe?
I'd say the duration of his trip may have as much to do with US visa regulations as anything else.
No, he and Joe fell out and Jamie is waiting until Joe steps down before he comes back.
An Armagh colleague at work assures me that wasn't the case Crossbar. Had he not been planning this trip since last year? He's been away 3 months next week so that would fit with Visa story?? What do you know? Give us the gossip!!
One life, one club, one helluva mess
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2013, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2013, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 20, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
QuoteI see Jamie Clarke is back in the country. A bit strange that he lands home a week after Cross are put out? Is all not well with him and big Joe?
I'd say the duration of his trip may have as much to do with US visa regulations as anything else.
No, he and Joe fell out and Jamie is waiting until Joe steps down before he comes back.
Quit it ffs. You'll have Gaelic Life running this story on the front page if you aren't careful.
Thats something Hoganstand would steal!
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Kevin McGuckin bate the rap.
Pádraig Hughes to referee.
Quote from: drici on November 25, 2013, 02:29:43 PM
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Kevin McGuckin bate the rap.
Pádraig Hughes to referee.
Seriously???? Could not be based on the game he done in the first round in Donegal!!
I would love to know how many cards are actually overturned?
Fútbol gaélico: Ballinderry versus Glenswilly
El próximo domingo 1 de diciembre se enfrentan el Ballinderry y el Glenswilly. Y es que se juega la final de la Ulster Senior Club Championship de fútbol gaélico. Lo cierto es que es bastante sorprendente que el Glenswilly haya llegado a la final del campeonato, pues se trata de un club muy humilde para un deporte tan desconocido como este.
Pero sea un deporte conocido o desconocido, lo cierto es que podemos ganar algún dinero apostando de la forma más sabia posible. Lo primero que no tenemos que perder de vista es que el Ballinderry es un club con solera, vencedor en dos ocasiones de la Ulster Senior Club Championship y de otras competiciones importantes, como la Derry Senior Championship (este campeonato lo ha ganado once veces). Es un equipo poderoso. Por su parte, el Glenswilly, que nunca se hubiera imaginado que llegaría a una final de este campeonato, es un equipo de pueblo.
Por supuesto, en las casas de apuestas pesa la trayectoria a la hora de decidir c*ál de los dos equipos es el favorito en esta ocasión. Así que el favorito es el Ballinderry. Ha sido un gran equipo en el pasado y el hecho de que esté en esta final indica que sigue siendo un gran equipo en la actualidad. Ahora bien, el Glenswilly viene sorprendiendo a todo el mundo desde que comenzó la competición. Y podría seguir sorprendiendo y ganar la final del campeonato.
Desde esta perspectiva, aunque es cierto que el favorito en estos momentos es el Ballinderry, es posible que merezca la pena arriesgarse y apostar por el Glenswilly. A fin de cuentas, por cada euro apostado por el Ballinderry podemos ganar 1,57 céntimos, mientras que ganaríamos 1,80 en caso de apostar por el Glenswilly. El empate, que podría ser una apuesta loca, cotiza a la friolera de 8 euros por cada euro apostado
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蓋爾式足球： Ballinderry與Glenswilly
上週日12月1日Ballinderry和Glenswilly臉。和阿爾斯特高級俱樂部錦標賽蓋爾式足球結束時播放。事實是，這是很奇怪， Glenswilly已經達到了比賽的冠軍，因為這是一個很不起眼的俱樂部為未知的這項運動。
但它是一個已知或未知的運動，事實是，我們可以賺一些錢賭可能是最聰明的方式。我們絕不能忽視的第一件事是，俱樂部Ballinderry是火塘，兩次冠軍阿爾斯特高級俱樂部錦標賽等重大賽事，如德里資深冠軍（這個冠軍獲得了11倍）的。它是一個強大的團隊。同時， Glenswilly ，永遠不會猜到它會來到這個比賽的最終是一個團隊的人。
當然，天堂權衡路徑決定C *兩隊的人是最喜歡這個時候。所以，最喜歡的是Ballinderry 。它已經在過去的一個偉大的球隊，那就是在最後的狀態仍然是一個偉大的球隊今天。現在到了令人吃驚的Glenswilly自世界各地的競爭開始了。我可以不斷的驚喜，贏得了冠軍。
從這個角度來看，雖然這是事實，最喜歡的，現在是Ballinderry ，它可能是值得的風險，去Glenswilly 。畢竟，對於每一個由Ballinderry投資歐元，我們可以賺取1.57美分，而1.80會贏，如果賭對Glenswilly 。平局，這可能是一個瘋狂的賭博，在高達8歐元交易，每下注歐元
Anyway, I'm glad the red card has been overturned.
I'd like to see Murphy versus McGuckin.
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Quote from: drici on November 29, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
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Brill
30 odd photocopies and an enlarged on for the wall should do the job!
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Papers have to be sold. Especially in Donegal! ;)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 30, 2013, 01:22:51 PM
30 odd photocopies and an enlarged on for the wall should do the job!
Think its daft journalism, they'd sell a lot more papers on Monday if they win ffs
Ballinderry narrow win looks most likely however Glenswilly are good value odds.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 30, 2013, 05:51:18 PM
Ballinderry narrow win looks most likely however Glenswilly are good value odds.
I honestly think they will win by 5, Glenswilly not as good as you think
Anyone got a link for the Radio Ulster stream online. I can't find it anywhere.
Best of luck to Glenswilly today. Hopefully they'll cause an upset.
Glenswilly 2-6 Ballinderry 1-12 with six minutes to go
Well done to Ballinderry four point win for them, Dr Crokes only won the Munster final by one point it looks like the All Ireland race is wide open.
Crokes didn't seem to be impressed with the ref , http://t.co/Vjdypq0sb4
What's the AI semi finals pairing now?
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Quote from: BennyCake on December 01, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
What's the AI semi finals pairing now?
Ballinderry or London winners v St Vincents or Portlaoise
Dr Crokes v Castlebar
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
Crokes didn't seem to be impressed with the ref , http://t.co/Vjdypq0sb4
Some Craic they are, can you remember the time they asked for segregation v cross maglen. Definitely a chronic pr disaster for Kerry football. Some representatives for Munster too
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Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
Crokes didn't seem to be impressed with the ref , http://t.co/Vjdypq0sb4
Some Craic they are, can you remember the time they asked for segregation v cross maglen. Definitely a chronic pr disaster for Kerry football. Some representatives for Munster too
I thought Crokes asked, if possible , could there allocation be in the same area in the stands. Build a bit of atmosphere, no harm in that
Good match today, some quality scores and fine footballers on display. Glenswilly would need to attend a 'learn how to tackle' beginner course right enough
Healy Pk looked well
Ballinderry are a serious team and panel of players to bring on as good as the starting 15.
What's the situation now AI Club wise now?
QuoteWhat's the situation now AI Club wise now?
St Vincents 7/2
Ballinderry 4/1
Castlebar 9/2
Portlaoise 11/1
Kingdom Kerry Gaels 80/1
Quote from: armaghniac on December 02, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
QuoteWhat's the situation now AI Club wise now?
St Vincents 7/2
Ballinderry 4/1
Castlebar 9/2
Portlaoise 11/1
Kingdom Kerry Gaels 80/1
What bout the other Kerry team ?
Is one Kerry team not enough?
Dr Crokes 11/10
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
Sunday 20th October
Preliminary Round:
Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 0-14 Clonoe O'Rahillys(Tyrone) 0-10
Celtic Park
Scorers:
Ballinderry R Bell 0-4 (1f), A Devlin 0-3, C Gilligan 0-2, D McKinless, D McGuckin, C Devlin , C Nevin, D Lawn 0-1 each.
Clonoe D McNulty 0-4 (1f), C McAlickey 0-3 (3f), PJ Lavery 0-2, RT O'Neill 0-1.
Teams:
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: E Muldoon for Lawn (42), D Conway for D McKinless (56), M Harney for Wilson (60), Kevin M McGuckin for J Conway (62).
Clonoe M O'Neill; D Quinn, A Brady, C O'Neill; J McClure, S McCann, PJ Lavery; S McNulty, S O'Hagan; R T O'Neill, C Doris, P Doris; P Coney, D McNulty, C McAliskey. Subs: G Coney for S McCann (13), R R O'Neill for P Doris (44), D McClure for C McAliskey (52), S Hughes for J McClure (58).
Sunday 3rd November
Quarter Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 1-10 St Galls(Antrim) 0-10
Ballybofey
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí M Murphy 1-4 (1-0 penalty, 1f, two 50s), G McFadden 0-3 (3f), N Gallagher, K McFadden, B Farrelly 0-1 each.
St Galls C McGourty 0-5 (4f), A Healy, K Niblock, S Burke, K Stewart, M Pollock 0-1 each.
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, E Ward, R Crawford; Caolan Kelly, J McDaid, J McFadden; N Gallagher, C Bonner; J Gibbons, G McFadden, D McGinley; Colin Kelly, M Murphy, K McFadden. Subs: C Gallagher for J McDaid (49), B Farrelly for K McFadden (53), R Diver for McGinley (60).
St Galls C Kerr; A McClean, C Brady; R Wilson, S Kelly, J McGeevy, A Healy; S Burke, A Gallagher; T O'Neill, K Niblock, K McGourty; C McGourty, M Pollock, N O'Neill. Subs: B Bradley for McGreevy (43), K Stewart for K McGourty (43), S O'Hara for N O'Neill (47), C Burke for S Burke (56).
Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 1-12 Ballinagh(Cavan) 0-11
Brewster Park
Scorers:
Roslea Séamie Quigley 1-7 (5f, 1-0 penalty), Seán Quigley 0-4, S Lynch 0-1.
Ballinagh K Smith 0-3, N McDermott 0-2 (2f), D Finnegan 0-2; P O'Reilly, T Moore, C Gumley, A Gaynor 0-1 each
Teams:
Roslea S Boyle; P Sherry, C Mulligan, C Quigley; M Beagan, N Cassidy, M Renfrew; K McMahon, J Sherry (capt); N Cosgrove; S McMahon, P Lynch, S Lynch; S Quigley, S Quigley. Subs: N McMahon for P Sherry, B Sherlock for S Lynch
Ballinagh D Beard; K McBride (capt), P Carroll, C Smith; D McInerney, N O'Reilly, P Bogue; P O'Reilly, T Moore; K Smith, E Brady, D Finnegan; C Gumley, N McDermott, T Smith. Subs: E McEvoy for McInerney, A Gaynor for Brady, B Carthy for T Smith, R O'Reilly for Gumley
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 2-09 Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07
Páirc Esler
Scorers:
Kilcoo R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3f), P Devlin 0-3 (1f), P Greenan 1-0, Gerard McEvoy
Crossmaglen T Kernan 0-6(all frees,) S Kernan 1-1, K Brennan 0-2, J Hanratty, M Aherne, C Cumiskey 0-1 each
Teams:
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, Aidan Branagan; P Devlin, A Devlin, R Johnston; J Johnston, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: F McGreevy for J Johnston (24), Aaron Branagan for A Devlin (39), J McClean for McGreevy (39), Sean Devlin for Gary McEvoy (52), S Devlin for A Branagan (70), M Devlin for R Johnston (76), N Morgan for M Devlin (80).
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, S Kernan; P Óg Grant, T Kernan, M McNamee; K Brennan, K Carragher, C Cumiskey. Subs: D McKenna for Brennan (43), C O'Neill for McNamee (53), M Boyce for Cumiskey (56), K Brennanfor Grant (66).
Scotstown(Monaghan) 0-10 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-08
Clones
Scorers:
Scotstown K Hughes 0-2 (1f), C McCarthy 0-2 (2f), R Beggan 0-1 (a free), J Turley, S Carey, D Hughes, N Corrigan, B McGinnity 0-1 each.
Ballinderry D Conway 1-0, C Gilligan 0-2 (2f), C Devlin 0-2 (1f), M McIver, A Devlin, D McGuckin, R Bell 0-1 each
Teams:
Scotstown R Beggan; D McArdle, D Morgan, M Duffy; P Keenan, W Carroll, E Caulfield; F Caulfield, J Turley; K Hughes, S Carey, D Hughes; P O'Hara, N Corrigan, C McCarthy. Subs: B McGinnity for E Caulfield, O Heaphey for N Corrigan, Fergal McPhillips for P Keenan, D McCague for F Caulfield, N Corrigan for S carey.
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, A Devlin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: K McGuckin for R Wilson, E Muldoon for A Devlin, D Conway for D McKinless, J Bateson for M McIver.
Sunday 10th November
Quarter Final Replay:
Crossmaglen Rangers(Armagh) 1-08 Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 3-10 (After Extra Time)
Full Time: 1-07 1-07 (again)
Athletic Grounds
Scorers:
Crossmaglen T Kernan 1-3 (3f), C Cumiskey 0-2, M Aherne, K Carragher, A Cunningham 0-1 each
Kilcoo P Devlin 2-2 (1-0 pen), R Johnston 1-1, D O'Hanlon 0-4 (3f), Gerard McEvoy, N McEvoy, J McClean 0-1 each
Teams:
Crossmaglen P Hearty; P Hughes, P McKeown, S Finnegan; M Aherne, G Carragher, D O'Callaghan; J Hanratty, T Kernan; M McNamee, S Kernan, C Cumiskey; K Brennan, K Carragher, C O'Neill. Subs: P Óg Grant for McNamee (35), M Boyce for O'Neill (35), A Cunningham for K Brennan (47), K McShane for Hanratty (79)
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, A Branagan; P Devlin, J McClean, R Johnston; N Morgan, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: S Devlin for Gary McEvoy (54), J Johnston for Morgan (54), F McGreevy for J Johnston (79)
Sunday 17th November
Semi Finals:
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 3-09 Roslea Shamrocks(Fermanagh) 2-08
Omagh
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí C Kelly 2-1, M Murphy 1-2 (2f), G McFadden 0-3 (2f), C Bonner 0-1, J Gibbons 0-1, D McGinley 0-1
Roslea Séamus Quigley 1-4 (1-0 penalty, 2f), C Mulligan 1-0, J McMahon 0-1, P Lynch 0-1, K Cosgrove 0-1, D Reilly 0-1
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, R Crawford, K McFadden; C Kelly, JP McDaid, E Ward; N Gallagher, C Bonner; J McFadden, J Gibbons, C Kelly, D McGinley, G McFadden, M Murphy. Subs: B Farrelly for McGinley (52 mins), C Gallagher for Kelly (55 mins), R Diver for McFadden (59 mins), B Molloy for Gibbons (61 mins)
Roslea S Boyle, N McMahon, C Mulligan, C Quigley, M Beagan N Cassidy, J McMahon, K Cosgrove, J Sherry, N Cosgrove, S McMahon, P Lynch, M Renfrew, Seamus Quigley, Sean Quigley. Subs: D Reilly for N McMahon (28 mins), C Sherlock for S McMahon (44 ), S Lynch for McMahon (55 ).
Kilcoo Eoghan Rua(Down) 0-09 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-10
Athletic Grounds
Scorers:
Kilcoo D O'Hanlon 0-3 (3f), P Devlin 0-2 (1f), S O'Hanlon 0-1, C Laverty 0-1, J Johnston 0-1, S Devlin 0-1
Ballinderry M McIver 1-2, C Devlin 0-3(3f), R Bell 0-2, C Gilligan 0-2, D McGuckin 0-1
Teams:
Kilcoo S Kane; N Branagan, N McEvoy, D Branagan; D O'Hanlon, S O'Hanlon, Gerard McEvoy; P Greenan, A Branagan; P Devlin, N Morgan, R Johnston; J McClean, C Laverty, Gary McEvoy. Subs: J Johnston for Morgan (Half Time), S Devlin for McClean (40 mins)
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; K McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, KM McGuckin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: D Conway for KM McGuckin (37 mins), E Muldoon for Gilligan (53 mins), A Devlin for D McKinless , F Bell for D McGuckin (both 57 mins), P Crozier for Wilson (60 mins)
Sunday 1st December
Final
Gleann tSuilí(Donegal) 2-06 Ballinderry Shamrocks(Derry) 1-13
3-00pm Omagh
Scorers:
Gleann tSuilí M Murphy 1-3 (1 strange goal, one 50), Caolan Kelly 1-1, Colin Kelly, D McGinley 0-1 each
Ballinderry : M McIver 1-0, C Devlin 0-3 (1f), C Gilligan 0-3 (2f), J Conway, D McGuckin 0-2 each, D McKinless, A Devlin, D Conway 0-1 each
Teams:
Gleann tSuilí P O'Donnell; B McDaid, J McFadden, C Kelly; E Ward, R Crawford, JP McDaid; N Gallagher, C Bonner; C Kelly, J Gibbons, M Murphy; K McFadden, G McFadden, D McGinley. Subs: A McDevitt for J McFadden (Half Time), B Farrelly for K McFadden (48), B Molloy for J McDaid (52), L Kelly for J Gibbons (60), R Diver for R Crawford (60)
Ballinderry M Conlan; R Scott, C Nevin, M McIver; R Wilson, G McKinless, D Lawn; Kevin McGuckin, J Conway; D McKinless, Kevin 'Moss' McGuckin, D McGuckin; C Devlin, R Bell, C Gilligan. Subs: E Muldoon for K McGuckin (33), A Devlin for Lawn (39), D Conway for M McIvor (55), R Wilkinson for C Devlin (59)
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Result in Ruislip, Kerry Kingdom Gaels 2-07 Ballinderry 3-09
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 15, 2013, 02:30:17 PM
Result in Ruislip, Kerry Kingdom Gaels 2-07 Ballinderry 3-09
When I saw the scoreline earlier balinderry I thought were out of sight. Kingdom must have come back well.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 15, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 15, 2013, 02:30:17 PM
Result in Ruislip, Kerry Kingdom Gaels 2-07 Ballinderry 3-09
When I saw the scoreline earlier balinderry I thought were out of sight. Kingdom must have come back well.
A good comeback was 3-6 to 0-4.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 15, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 15, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 15, 2013, 02:30:17 PM
Result in Ruislip, Kerry Kingdom Gaels 2-07 Ballinderry 3-09
When I saw the scoreline earlier balinderry I thought were out of sight. Kingdom must have come back well.
A good comeback was 3-6 to 0-4.
Ballinderry were never in any danger of losing this one. They should have had a couple more goals in the first half. I'm sure Mickey C will be disappointed to concede the first KKG goal. The 2nd was a penalty, although I think the ref was being generous. Foul was committed outside the area. KKG could have lost a few more men due to high, heavy and late challenges!
Ballinderry v Vincent's.
Ger Brennan missing for this one.
hes stripped out there, this game could had alot of wayward passes with both teams in Blue and white, normally when passed quick you catch the colour of the jersey and not necessarily who u passing to
Connolly is in some nick.
Shit, Duffys circus is in town the day,!!
f**king MARTY f**king DUFFY
Are there no performance reviews for referees?! Disgusting.
First score to Vincents in the Armagh part of the pitch. 0-1
Some save by Mickey C.
Instead of being 4 down, Ballinderry are level with 5 gone. That save will be seen as a massive turning point.
What a goal by Mossie.
2 goal chances for Vincents already. One of them bagged.
Looked over the bar to me.
3 goal chances for Vincent's. 2 of them bagged.
Serious speed in that St Vincents side two goals scored should have been three.
Bad start for Ballinderry, Nevin would be the better option in at full back with his speed and McGuckin with his height on Connolly, there too many gaps in round the full back and McGuckin trying to play from the front. Think at 36 Enda better coming off the bench not starting,
Looking a tough one now for Ballinderry.
Vincent's getting all the break ball so far.
2.02
0.04
Better for BD
Ballinderry coming well into it now.
Quote from: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 05:23:20 PM
Ballinderry coming well into it now.
Yip the gap is manageable now.
Was 2-2 to 0-1.
Now 2-2 to 0-5.
Quote from: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 05:25:41 PM
Was 2-2 to 0-1.
Now 2-2 to 0-5.
SV time to steady the ship, 2.03 - 0.05
Marty getting his batteries checked now, nearly went into shut down mode there. Would have been an improvement.
Duffy?? Man pulling back Bell , he blows for overcarrying?
Is Marty the worst ref in world sport? He has to be up there.
2-3 to 0-6.
Ballinderry have scored 6 times to Vincent's 5.
Quote from: Zulu on February 15, 2014, 05:28:56 PM
Is Marty the worst ref in world sport?
Yes ... unless Michael.
Poor enough compared to earlier game.
Quote from: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 05:29:29 PM
2-3 to 0-6.
Ballinderry have scored 6 times to Vincent's 5.
2.04
0.07
C.Devlin, point, nearly a goal for the Ulstermen.
Ray Wilson a point for BD.
The Dubs will be happy to see half time.
2.04
0.09
Ballinderry have scored 0-8 to Vincent's 0-2.
Ballinderry very much in the ascendancy now.
Good recovery from Ballinderry after the slow start how strong is the wind i wonder?
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 15, 2014, 05:49:45 PM
Good recovery from Ballinderry after the slow start how strong is the wind i wonder?
Ballinderry will hand pass it well this half.
Was that not a black card? slow start to the half by Ballinderry again.
Vincent's have started with 3 good scores.
Nice reply by Ryan Bell.
Another big one by Connolly.
4 in it. 20 left.
St vincents have seemed to ahve got on top here, Connolly came into the game well, ballinderry have missed a few scorable chances, Not finding the net before half time could have been a turning point
13 left. 2-10 to 1-11.
Game on.
2.10
1.11
Cracking goal from Derry men.
great goal, i was shouting at him to pass it out and he turns inside and shoots
Free in Ballinderry not given.
3 bad wides from the dublin outfit there, would have closed the game out
Some game.
End to end.
Marty not blowing frees now.
No free Marty.
Ballinderry won't be happy with Marty.
3 in it. 6 left.
Can't help but think the ulster team is coming out badly on the refs calls here.
how is that honestly a free? Duffy was standing a metre from that, big Eamon caught it, pushed forward and went to ground, with the derry men standing him up??
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 15, 2014, 06:17:59 PM
how is that honestly a free? Duffy was standing a metre from that, big Eamon caught it, pushed forward and went to ground, with the derry men standing him up??
a dreadful decision that, won it well, but just put the head down and bored on. no foul of an kind committed by the defenders
Should there not have a black card or two near the end there?
in the end the better team won, Ballinderry poor start and given up 3 goal chances probably cost them the game, always chasing it, why A Devlin went for a point and not goal when in on nets there, i dont know
Vincents better team for most of the game.
Once again Duffy a disaster of a Ref.
Deserved win for St Vincents the slow starts to both halves killed Ballinderry.
Quote from: Redhand Santa on February 15, 2014, 06:17:39 PM
Can't help but think the ulster team is coming out badly on the refs calls here.
Not a chance, Marty was his usual woeful self but he wasn't overly harsh on Ballinderry.
Hard luck Ballinderry.
St Vincent's got the dream start. Full credit to Ballinderry who out it up to their opponents right till the very end.
Mossy was the difference in the end.
But Ballinderry can be very proud of what they've achieved last year and this year they'll be going for 4 in a row. Not many will back against them doing it.
Luckily Duffy only has a short drive to Dundalk this evening to rejoin the circus. The man is a clown and should not be allowed to referee an U6 game.
Duffy has had a huge run this year, beating many good teams along the way, it's just a pity he won't get a chance to win the Merrigan.
The Duffy Circus once again.
Poor start for the Shamrocks, always chasing the game and too many players had off days. Alot of cynical fouling going unpunished.
Collie Devlin, class act. Best player on the pitch.
Conway was the only Ballinderry player who played well. Young Bell made the most of the poor service he got but didn't feature a lot. McGuckin was roasted, should have been moved out the field or taken off.
Quinn and in the second half Connolly controlled the game.
Poor refereeing, harsh on Ballinderry, but Vincent's were much better.
Good game the best side won. How does the Duffys continue to get key club and county games?
Quote from: All of a Sludden on February 15, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
Luckily Duffy only has a short drive to Dundalk this evening to rejoin the circus. The man is a clown and should not be allowed to referee an U6 game.
Didn't see the game, but agree 100%.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 15, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on February 15, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
Luckily Duffy only has a short drive to Dundalk this evening to rejoin the circus. The man is a clown and should not be allowed to referee an U6 game.
Didn't see the game, but agree 100%.
Is he really that bad ?
Quote from: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 15, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on February 15, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
Luckily Duffy only has a short drive to Dundalk this evening to rejoin the circus. The man is a clown and should not be allowed to referee an U6 game.
Didn't see the game, but agree 100%.
Is he really that bad ?
Once you get Duff you don't go back (into the championship).
Quote from: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 15, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on February 15, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
Luckily Duffy only has a short drive to Dundalk this evening to rejoin the circus. The man is a clown and should not be allowed to referee an U6 game.
Didn't see the game, but agree 100%.
Is he really that bad ?
He was as bad today as ever. I don't think Ballinderry got one free all day that wasn't very hard earned. I think the best team won but I wouldn't be 100% sure either such was Duffy's ineptitude.
the best team did win on the day,i thought Ballinderry would have line up differently, hold muldoon back to the 2nd half, who was fairly good today, play nevin at fullback and mcguckin at wingback where he had a great year up today. Conway was very good for Ballina
derry and probably their best player this year
Think the best team won. Ballinderry did not look as fit or sharp as Vincents. Thought Ryan Bell looked dangerous every time he got the ball, similarly Quinn for Vincents.
Watched both matches today. Although I thought Reilly made mistakes when his performance is put up against Duffys he is quite clearly a superior referee. Great viewing on TG 4 all the same.
Quote from: Throw ball on February 15, 2014, 08:49:06 PM
Think the best team won. Ballinderry did not look as fit or sharp as Vincents. Thought Ryan Bell looked dangerous every time he got the ball, similarly Quinn for Vincents.
Watched both matches today. Although I thought Reilly made mistakes when his performance is put up against Duffys he is quite clearly a superior referee. Great viewing on TG 4 all the same.
Hard luck to Balinderry its awful hard losing semi finals and finals at this stage after 14-15 months training. Heart goes out to them. And I genuinely mean that
Expected more from Balinderry if I'm honest. Got the match ups and tactics all wrong which In can't believe considering their management team.
Game was over after 10 minutes really. After that we only had to keep the points ticking over. Balinderry were just too pourous at the back and had a serious lack of pace in some sectors which I was again surprised at.
Collie Devlin, Bell and Mc Kindless up front are class though. Derry could have a very tasty forward line this year. But they needed some of their class at the back.
Usual suspects turned up for us and a couple of our younger lads in Gav Burke, Concaar and Cameron Diamond showed up every well.
There was a point in it at half time...
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2014, 09:35:26 PM
There was a point in it at half time...
Gale force wind in the second half Tommy. Was a 5-6 point wind and were wasteful at times in the second half
It was a bad start but after ballinderry's goal if they'd have pegged on a score or two it would have been squeaky bum time for vincents. Incidentally the next score was from a free that was never a free which just illustrated once again that duffy is a clown. (I hate slating refs to be honest but how this guy repeatedly gets big games is beyond me - i watch most as a neutral and generally him reffing ruins the game)
If either devlin had goaled who knows what might have happened but at key points in the game ballinderry didn't capitalise and best team won really.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2014, 10:07:17 PM
It was a bad start but after ballinderry's goal if they'd have pegged on a score or two it would have been squeaky bum time for vincents. Incidentally the next score was from a free that was never a free which just illustrated once again that duffy is a clown. (I hate slating refs to be honest but how this guy repeatedly gets big games is beyond me - i watch most as a neutral and generally him reffing ruins the game)
If either devlin had goaled who knows what might have happened but at key points in the game ballinderry didn't capitalise and best team won really.
We had one point waved wide and Balinderry's "point" from Devlin's hit the crossbar attempt never went over the bar.
Duffy is one of the poorest referees in Ireland and today was no different.
As a Derry man I was disappointed, looked like the Ballinderry management tried to win it from the line. Kevin MC Guckian at fullback was wrong he dictated midfield all year. Nevin should have been in there where he lorded all year. Sorry.